Hi Lucy, I have now tried looking for a marriage in England for Clarice and Joseph Burton, but no luck. Perhaps the ship’s Captain married them before the boat sailed with Clarice alone. It is definitely a puzzle. The child that Clarice left behind in England had the surname Pugh so she was not a Burton. Thanks, Joan From: Lucy McDonald Shore Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 7:05 PM To: Joan Rooney Subject: Re: [Q-R] Seeking Descendants of Clarice(Clarry) PUGH and Joseph BURTON of Montreal Hi Joan You're welcome. Thanks for filling me in....as the plot thickens! I'll see if I can do anything here! There may be something available in the UK ... Lucy On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Joan Rooney <mc.rooney@sympatico.ca> wrote: Hi Lucy, Thank you for this help. It looks like she had already married in England and her husband paid for her to go ahead alone to Canada to work as a cook in Toronto. Joseph must have joined her by 1929 since Shirley was born in July 1930 at Baptist Point(help from another lister who also thought the baby didn’t live). This is getting more mysterious. Thanks, Joan From: Lucy McDonald Shore Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 12:26 AM To: Joan Rooney Subject: Re: [Q-R] Seeking Descendants of Clarice(Clarry) PUGH and Joseph BURTON of Montreal Hi again, Joan Just found another message dating back even further... From: "D. O'" <grandeebc@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [MONTREAL] Re.Montreal Addresses Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 03:55:32 +0000 References: <6ACDBB44-3384-497F-A18B-2ECB274D7789@gconnect.com> In-Reply-To: <6ACDBB44-3384-497F-A18B-2ECB274D7789@gconnect.com> Hi again: This may be nothing more than pure coincidence but I found a family in the 1911 Canada Census for Montreal which I thought I would pass on to you. There was a Burton family living in the City of Verdun in that Census; the father was Joseph Burton, his wife was Heneley(sic) and they had twin 3 year old sons named Joseph and Alfred who were born in England; religion was Anglican. The father's occupation was a dispatcher. I looked at the Passenger Records and found: 1) that Clarice Pughe, aged 30, arrived on 17 November 1928 at Port of Quebec from Liverpoolm having sailed from there on 9 November 1928. She had assisted passage, her occupation was a cook and her destination was The Canadian Women's Hostel, 72 Carleton street, Toronto, ON; her mother's name was given as Mrs. L.E. Pughe, 8 Beardwood, Blackburn. 2) that the CPR ship Montclare sailed from Liverpool and arrived at Halifax, Nova Scotia on 18 February 1933 with Mrs. Clarice Burton as a passenger, giving her place of birth as Blackburn, her age as 32, and that her mother was Mrs. Elizabeth Pughe, and her husband was Joseph Burton and address was the Eadie street on in Cote St. Paul. I have not yet been able to locate a marriage between Burton & Pughe/Pugh in Quebec and perhaps it took place in Ontario. Unfortunately the Ontario marriage records are not yet available for the period following 1924. Hope this is helpful. Gotta dash, it's Saturday night and time for "Heartbeat" Here is the ship's manifest for Clarice's return from England On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Joan Rooney via <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> wrote: HI All, I am trying to help a very old lady in England who wants to know if she has relatives in Canada. She may even have a sister, or brother here. Her mother Clarice Pugh came from England c1827/28. She went first to Toronto, but by c1933 Clarice was married to a Joseph Burton living at 5944 rue Eadie. Joseph may have worked for Imperial Oil and they may have later lived in Westmount. I have found no marriage in Drouin, but they were probably not Catholic. I am not subbed to ancestry at the moment, so can anyone think of a way to find their Marriage of any Baptisms. I have no names for any children. City directories might help? Any help appreciated, Joan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Further to recent message from Bertrand - ..........and as Ontario records for marriages are not available after 1928; nothing shows up in Ancestry for a Burton/Pughe marriage and since neither were in Canada for the 1921 Census - there isn't much to work with. Doreen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Rooney via" <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> To: "Lucy McDonald Shore" <Lucy_Shore@umanitoba.ca>, "QUEBEC-RESEARCH" <QUEBEC-RESEARCH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 5:08:56 PM Subject: Re: [Q-R] Seeking Descendants of Clarice(Clarry) PUGH and Joseph BURTON of Montreal Hi Lucy, I have now tried looking for a marriage in England for Clarice and Joseph Burton, but no luck. Perhaps the ship’s Captain married them before the boat sailed with Clarice alone. It is definitely a puzzle. The child that Clarice left behind in England had the surname Pugh so she was not a Burton. Thanks, Joan From: Lucy McDonald Shore Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 7:05 PM To: Joan Rooney Subject: Re: [Q-R] Seeking Descendants of Clarice(Clarry) PUGH and Joseph BURTON of Montreal Hi Joan You're welcome. Thanks for filling me in....as the plot thickens! I'll see if I can do anything here! There may be something available in the UK ... Lucy On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Joan Rooney <mc.rooney@sympatico.ca> wrote: Hi Lucy, Thank you for this help. It looks like she had already married in England and her husband paid for her to go ahead alone to Canada to work as a cook in Toronto. Joseph must have joined her by 1929 since Shirley was born in July 1930 at Baptist Point(help from another lister who also thought the baby didn’t live). This is getting more mysterious. Thanks, Joan From: Lucy McDonald Shore Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 12:26 AM To: Joan Rooney Subject: Re: [Q-R] Seeking Descendants of Clarice(Clarry) PUGH and Joseph BURTON of Montreal Hi again, Joan Just found another message dating back even further... From: "D. O'" <grandeebc@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [MONTREAL] Re.Montreal Addresses Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 03:55:32 +0000 References: <6ACDBB44-3384-497F-A18B-2ECB274D7789@gconnect.com> In-Reply-To: <6ACDBB44-3384-497F-A18B-2ECB274D7789@gconnect.com> Hi again: This may be nothing more than pure coincidence but I found a family in the 1911 Canada Census for Montreal which I thought I would pass on to you. There was a Burton family living in the City of Verdun in that Census; the father was Joseph Burton, his wife was Heneley(sic) and they had twin 3 year old sons named Joseph and Alfred who were born in England; religion was Anglican. The father's occupation was a dispatcher. I looked at the Passenger Records and found: 1) that Clarice Pughe, aged 30, arrived on 17 November 1928 at Port of Quebec from Liverpoolm having sailed from there on 9 November 1928. She had assisted passage, her occupation was a cook and her destination was The Canadian Women's Hostel, 72 Carleton street, Toronto, ON; her mother's name was given as Mrs. L.E. Pughe, 8 Beardwood, Blackburn. 2) that the CPR ship Montclare sailed from Liverpool and arrived at Halifax, Nova Scotia on 18 February 1933 with Mrs. Clarice Burton as a passenger, giving her place of birth as Blackburn, her age as 32, and that her mother was Mrs. Elizabeth Pughe, and her husband was Joseph Burton and address was the Eadie street on in Cote St. Paul. I have not yet been able to locate a marriage between Burton & Pughe/Pugh in Quebec and perhaps it took place in Ontario. Unfortunately the Ontario marriage records are not yet available for the period following 1924. Hope this is helpful. Gotta dash, it's Saturday night and time for "Heartbeat" Here is the ship's manifest for Clarice's return from England On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Joan Rooney via <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> wrote: HI All, I am trying to help a very old lady in England who wants to know if she has relatives in Canada. She may even have a sister, or brother here. Her mother Clarice Pugh came from England c1827/28. She went first to Toronto, but by c1933 Clarice was married to a Joseph Burton living at 5944 rue Eadie. Joseph may have worked for Imperial Oil and they may have later lived in Westmount. I have found no marriage in Drouin, but they were probably not Catholic. I am not subbed to ancestry at the moment, so can anyone think of a way to find their Marriage of any Baptisms. I have no names for any children. City directories might help? Any help appreciated, Joan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been following this thread and it seems to me some information has been misinterpreted, leading you to conclude she was married in England. In fact, it seems to me that she came over alone in 1928 to work and Toronto, but that she rapidly ended up in Montreal. She married a Burton, either in Ontario or in Montreal, and had a child in Montreal. She seems then to have made a trip to England (to visit her mother?) from which she returned in 1933, duly called Mrs Burton and said to be living on Eadie street in Montreal. Bertrand Desjardins -----Message d'origine----- De : quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] De la part de Joan Rooney via Envoyé : 7 octobre 2014 20:09 À : Lucy McDonald Shore; QUEBEC-RESEARCH Objet : Re: [Q-R] Seeking Descendants of Clarice(Clarry) PUGH and Joseph BURTON of Montreal Hi Lucy, I have now tried looking for a marriage in England for Clarice and Joseph Burton, but no luck. Perhaps the ship’s Captain married them before the boat sailed with Clarice alone. It is definitely a puzzle. The child that Clarice left behind in England had the surname Pugh so she was not a Burton. Thanks, Joan From: Lucy McDonald Shore Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 7:05 PM To: Joan Rooney Subject: Re: [Q-R] Seeking Descendants of Clarice(Clarry) PUGH and Joseph BURTON of Montreal Hi Joan You're welcome. Thanks for filling me in....as the plot thickens! I'll see if I can do anything here! There may be something available in the UK ... Lucy On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Joan Rooney <mc.rooney@sympatico.ca> wrote: Hi Lucy, Thank you for this help. It looks like she had already married in England and her husband paid for her to go ahead alone to Canada to work as a cook in Toronto. Joseph must have joined her by 1929 since Shirley was born in July 1930 at Baptist Point(help from another lister who also thought the baby didn’t live). This is getting more mysterious. Thanks, Joan From: Lucy McDonald Shore Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 12:26 AM To: Joan Rooney Subject: Re: [Q-R] Seeking Descendants of Clarice(Clarry) PUGH and Joseph BURTON of Montreal Hi again, Joan Just found another message dating back even further... From: "D. O'" <grandeebc@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [MONTREAL] Re.Montreal Addresses Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 03:55:32 +0000 References: <6ACDBB44-3384-497F-A18B-2ECB274D7789@gconnect.com> In-Reply-To: <6ACDBB44-3384-497F-A18B-2ECB274D7789@gconnect.com> Hi again: This may be nothing more than pure coincidence but I found a family in the 1911 Canada Census for Montreal which I thought I would pass on to you. There was a Burton family living in the City of Verdun in that Census; the father was Joseph Burton, his wife was Heneley(sic) and they had twin 3 year old sons named Joseph and Alfred who were born in England; religion was Anglican. The father's occupation was a dispatcher. I looked at the Passenger Records and found: 1) that Clarice Pughe, aged 30, arrived on 17 November 1928 at Port of Quebec from Liverpoolm having sailed from there on 9 November 1928. She had assisted passage, her occupation was a cook and her destination was The Canadian Women's Hostel, 72 Carleton street, Toronto, ON; her mother's name was given as Mrs. L.E. Pughe, 8 Beardwood, Blackburn. 2) that the CPR ship Montclare sailed from Liverpool and arrived at Halifax, Nova Scotia on 18 February 1933 with Mrs. Clarice Burton as a passenger, giving her place of birth as Blackburn, her age as 32, and that her mother was Mrs. Elizabeth Pughe, and her husband was Joseph Burton and address was the Eadie street on in Cote St. Paul. I have not yet been able to locate a marriage between Burton & Pughe/Pugh in Quebec and perhaps it took place in Ontario. Unfortunately the Ontario marriage records are not yet available for the period following 1924. Hope this is helpful. Gotta dash, it's Saturday night and time for "Heartbeat" Here is the ship's manifest for Clarice's return from England On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Joan Rooney via <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> wrote: HI All, I am trying to help a very old lady in England who wants to know if she has relatives in Canada. She may even have a sister, or brother here. Her mother Clarice Pugh came from England c1827/28. She went first to Toronto, but by c1933 Clarice was married to a Joseph Burton living at 5944 rue Eadie. Joseph may have worked for Imperial Oil and they may have later lived in Westmount. I have found no marriage in Drouin, but they were probably not Catholic. I am not subbed to ancestry at the moment, so can anyone think of a way to find their Marriage of any Baptisms. I have no names for any children. City directories might help? Any help appreciated, Joan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message