Out the door at 4:47AM at 60F. Arrived at Schenectady, N.Y. at 6:45AM @ 57F and stopped at Stewart's for coffee. 7:16AM brings me to an odd cemetery. Surrounded by a Shopping Mall. I think it bought out the Vedder farm estate property years ago and kept the cemetery intact and built around it. Has never been touched. They built a steel fence around it which is locked.I went looking around and found security for the mall and asked to be let into the cemetery. I followed him by car back to where the little cemetery is by the front door of K-Mart. We both stood there and he called his boss, the boss said he dint want security to unlock the gate for me, it was up to building maintenance to do it. How long do I have to wait? He said about 10AM. I told him I only needed to get in there for about 3 minutes and I'd be out of here. Sorry that's what my boss told me, even though he has the key. I asked him what would happen if I went over the fence, he would call the sheriff dept and have me arrested. Knowing the state law on cemeteries, I told him it was public domain and I demanded to be let in now. And told him I had the laws in the car if he wanted to read them. Then I'll have you arrested for trespassing. I told him I didn't think that would work at a Mall. As the public is always free to enter the property at a mall. Its a public place. Its private property he said. OK, according to cemetery laws, this is covered also. If a cemetery ever ends up being surrounded by private property, the owner of the property has to provide and access road for people to get to the cemetery. He calls his boss back. He told me, after relating all that to his boss, the boss said, if I don't leave he should call the sheriff. While he is on the phone I managed to get photos of most of the headstones through the fence. I knew I was right and had the law on my side, but also had other things to do rather then have the sheriff read the cemetery law book, I carry with me, all day.I left and went on to other cemeteries. This problem happened once in the past which I did relate in an older Cemetery Report. And I was allowed to enter, do my thing and leave with out being further bothered. Through the fence.................... Francis Vedder Born Dec 11, 1754 and Died May 20, 1827, 75 years, 5 months and 6 days. Sarah Vedder Daughter of Francis and Rebecca Vedder , Died April 5, 1806 age 9 years, 2 months and 2 days and Albert Vacated this "Unfriendly Place" at 7:50AM 7:53AM brings me to the Reformed Church of Rotterdam on Princeton, Rd, Viewland Cemetery at 65F( Rotterdam is part of Schenectady now) Azina Clute Born Oct 9, 1808 and Died Aug 1878 John Vedder Born May 1, 1838 and died Oct 5, 1838 5 months and 5 days (P) Mariah Vedder parent of Abraham Vedder (P). Lancy Burdick died Dec 24, 1889 29 years. John J. Robinson 44th Regt. N.Y.V. Died Hanover Court House, Virginia May 29, 1862 age 19 years 7 months and 8 Days. John Hood Born Tarbolton Airshire, Scotland Oct 17, 1783 and died April 14, 1852. Joseph Gordon Born Hillsborough Co., Down, Ireland Born Jan 1, 1767 and Died June 30, 1851. John D. Vedder Born Oct 12, 1805 and died Jan 23, 1834 (P). Margaret Vedder Born Dec 17, 1803 (P). T_ _ abis Vedder Died June 7, 1867 age 39 years (P). Glady Fishbaugh Vedder 1895-1971 (P). Marilyn Vedder Barrie 1923-1999 (P). Romine J. Robinson 1858-1915. Sarah Bolt Vedder Died March 9, 1936 age 64 years (P). John O. Vedder died March 1923 age 60 years wife Carrie Ward died Nov 20, 1887 22 years, 3 months (P). William Veeder Born April 30, 1815 and died Sept 18, 1898and wifeJemima Wsetcoatt Born Aug 14, 1820, Died Jan 5, 1892. Jane Anna Veeder 1852-1905 (P). Altheda Veeder 1849-1936 (P). John D. Vedder Died Oct 24, 1906 age 74 yearswifeJane Ann Spring Died Aug 27, 1911 age 73 years (P). Azetta Pearl Kisby 1901-1970. Orsmer C. Kinney 1878-1929. Nicholas Vedder Born Oct 3, 1831 and Died Dec 18, 1918 (P). Elizabeth Vedder 1859-1916 (P). Simon Vedder 1854-1917 (2P). William Vedder 1856-1921 (P). James B. Vedder 1892-1914 (P). Clifford i. Vedder 1904-1985.+ 3 wives.Helen A. MacDongall 1906-1930 (P)Ella E. Blessing 1902-1966.Lillian J. Vedder 1911-2000 Abram G. Vedder 1868-1945&Gertrude E. Kelly 1873-1944 (2P) Jacob B. Vedder 1873-1944& Bertha Levey 1877-1954son Raymond J. Vedder 1902-1914. James B. Vedder Born May 28, 1828 and died Feb 2, 1889 (2P) Charles G. Vedder Born June 19, 1938 and died Sept 29, 2014.(P) Frank L. Vedder 1897-1985(P). Charles S. Vedder 1863-1945Wife Margaret J. Levey 1857-1925Wife Margaret B. Turnbull 1870-1957 (3P) Romine Robinson 1850-1919. Joseph Tidball 1874-1959. Pierre Vuille 1884-1977. Worthy Coss 1880-1943. Laurits Anderson Jr. 1910-2000. Laura Feely 1907-1977. Alfred Vedder 1870-1952wife Jennie B. Kelly 1875-1980 (8P) Genevie Dussault 1921-1995. Pardon S. Brown 1864-1935. Marie Vedder wife of Jacob i. Schermerhorn Died Aug 19, 1832 age 14 years. 1 month and 9 Days. (< catch the 14 years old at marriage date)(P). T_ _ cabis Vedder Died Feb 24, 1836 age 61 years, 21 days (P). Verla Combs 1910-1932. William Fleming Born Sept 3, 1876 and died Oct 4, 1940. John G. Lindblom Born Sweden July 8, 1878 and died Feb 12, 1942. Gurth Chandler 1893-1957. Joseph W. Couture 1902-1968. Flag Herrick 1926-1980. Out of this " Deprived of Life Plantation" at 12:14PM and walked 4.9 miles. 12:28PM brings me to Fisher Cemetery on Helderberg St @ 87F. Herman Vedder 1853-1928& wifeNancy Fischer 1850-1923 (P). Hiram C. Vedder 1891-1936 WW 1 Vet (P). Henry Vine Born Sept 30, 1847 and died May 22, 1895. Tilden Sharp Born June 9, 1876 and died June 24, 1942. (Sharpest corpse in the whole cemetery.) John F. Vedder Born March 27, 1882 and died Oct 27, 1905.(P) Jemimer Shannon Died Dec 6, 1865 age 77 years. Charles Kellerhouse 1823-1875. Coonrod Chism 1847-1925. Wymond Van Patten 1866-1938. George Goyaitte 1869-1914. Dorothy Lis 1908-2001. Isaac G. Dane 1754-1925.(< Which makes him 161, I'll bet that's a stone carvers error) inda Sutton 1872-1948. Harry J. Guyon 1894-1962. Burton S. Grabo 1906-1947. Marvin L. Day 1876-19_ _ . Cold chills, burning, pins and needles, back pain. So what else is new and a bit dizzy? Damn heat ! Walked 2.2 miles in this " Muted Meadows " and vacated at 1:57PM. 2:25PM its 97F. 2:47PM brings me to Rt 7, Niskayuna Reformed Church Cemetery @ 94F.(< also Schenectady) Inez Gss 1908-1998. Susan Fleming Born Aug 24, 1940 and died June 7, 2005. Brita L. Male 1930-2007.(Is Brita a male or female?) Lets not forget, Bag Pipers put the fun back in funerals.............................. Zaroohi Mihram 1888-1974. Not much of anything here. Walked .9 miles in this " Public Outage Patch " and vacated at 3:13PM @ 95F. 3:15PM brings me to Niskayuna Old Section , across the street, still Reformed Church @ 94F. Hannah E. Vedder 1845-1929 husbandLevi M. Strong 1847-1921 (P). Eleanor Vedder 1796-1862 husbandMorgan Strong 1796-1856 (P). Vedder Strong 1878-1907 (P). Hamer Strong Died Aug 27, 1881 age 81 years.(Hamer time) Palmer Vedder 1899-1983 (P). Simon H. Vedder Born April 2, 1847 and died Feb 13, 1923 (P). Hmmmmm Narrow homes for old bones. Mary Vedder wife of John Cowen Died April 20, 1837 age 62 years 5 months and 21 days. Lyman Vedder Born Aug 28, 1824 and died May 25, 1892 &Evyline Vedder Born Jan 1833 and died Jan 21, 1912 (P). William Vedder Died June 23, 1853 age 87 years wifeCatharine Vrooman Died Feb 18, 1878 age 95 years (2P). Mary Maude Whale 1889-1940 (P).(<No I didn't miss this............I just didn't want to say this was a whale of a find) Lany M. Terry Died Jan 22, 1868 age 47 years, 5 months and 13 days. Mathew Vedder Born Aug 4, 1826 and died March 6, 1915 (P). Catharine Vedder daughter of John W. and Alida Vedder died June 17, 1837 age 19 years (P). Alida Winne wife of John W. Vedder Died Nov 11, 1883 age 80 years (P). Catherine Vedder Born March 27, 1853 and died March 28, 1929 (P). William Vedder Died June 4, 1890 age 67 years (P). John Vedder Died__________ wife of Abiah Criffis Died Feb 6, 1870 age 67 years. Jacob Pearse, drowned in the Mohawk River Nov 22, 1831 age 11 yeas.(< Which was a Tues. back then, so he wasn't taking his weekend bath. Probably fishing) Orland W. Vaughn 1864-1943. Briska Slighter 1853-1928. Vacated this " Body Bog " at 4:43PM @ 97F and 1 flag, walked 2.7 miles. Heading home and as I'm going by Utica its 91F there. at 6:12PM Verona 87F at 6:30PM. Liverpool 91F at 7:03PM Got home at 7:13PM @ 87F and drove 302 miles for the day. Tolls even $12.00. Gas $25.25 for the trip. Walked 10.7 miles for the day. Visited 5 cemeteries for the day. Another fun day with the dead.......................... BestBill Hope you realize, a cemetery, in legal terms is " Just another family cover up ". :)
Good to see you back on the trails Bill! In my neck of the woods we have a Vedder River running between Canada (BC) and USA (WA). Seems that the Vedders did some travelling. Doreen ________________________________ From: William Fleming via Quebec-Research <[email protected]> Sent: October 28, 2018 1:55 PM To: [email protected] Cc: William Fleming Subject: [Q-R] Cemetery Report: May 17, 2017 " The Vedder's are Coming" Out the door at 4:47AM at 60F. Arrived at Schenectady, N.Y. at 6:45AM @ 57F and stopped at Stewart's for coffee. 7:16AM brings me to an odd cemetery. Surrounded by a Shopping Mall. I think it bought out the Vedder farm estate property years ago and kept the cemetery intact and built around it. Has never been touched. They built a steel fence around it which is locked.I went looking around and found security for the mall and asked to be let into the cemetery. I followed him by car back to where the little cemetery is by the front door of K-Mart. We both stood there and he called his boss, the boss said he dint want security to unlock the gate for me, it was up to building maintenance to do it. How long do I have to wait? He said about 10AM. I told him I only needed to get in there for about 3 minutes and I'd be out of here. Sorry that's what my boss told me, even though he has the key. I asked him what would happen if I went over the fence, he would call the sheriff dept and have me arrested. Knowing the state law on cemeteries, I told him it was public domain and I demanded to be let in now. And told him I had the laws in the car if he wanted to read them. Then I'll have you arrested for trespassing. I told him I didn't think that would work at a Mall. As the public is always free to enter the property at a mall. Its a public place. Its private property he said. OK, according to cemetery laws, this is covered also. If a cemetery ever ends up being surrounded by private property, the owner of the property has to provide and access road for people to get to the cemetery. He calls his boss back. He told me, after relating all that to his boss, the boss said, if I don't leave he should call the sheriff. While he is on the phone I managed to get photos of most of the headstones through the fence. I knew I was right and had the law on my side, but also had other things to do rather then have the sheriff read the cemetery law book, I carry with me, all day.I left and went on to other cemeteries. This problem happened once in the past which I did relate in an older Cemetery Report. And I was allowed to enter, do my thing and leave with out being further bothered. Through the fence.................... Francis Vedder Born Dec 11, 1754 and Died May 20, 1827, 75 years, 5 months and 6 days. Sarah Vedder Daughter of Francis and Rebecca Vedder , Died April 5, 1806 age 9 years, 2 months and 2 days and Albert Vacated this "Unfriendly Place" at 7:50AM 7:53AM brings me to the Reformed Church of Rotterdam on Princeton, Rd, Viewland Cemetery at 65F( Rotterdam is part of Schenectady now) Azina Clute Born Oct 9, 1808 and Died Aug 1878 John Vedder Born May 1, 1838 and died Oct 5, 1838 5 months and 5 days (P) Mariah Vedder parent of Abraham Vedder (P). Lancy Burdick died Dec 24, 1889 29 years. John J. Robinson 44th Regt. N.Y.V. Died Hanover Court House, Virginia May 29, 1862 age 19 years 7 months and 8 Days. John Hood Born Tarbolton Airshire, Scotland Oct 17, 1783 and died April 14, 1852. Joseph Gordon Born Hillsborough Co., Down, Ireland Born Jan 1, 1767 and Died June 30, 1851. John D. Vedder Born Oct 12, 1805 and died Jan 23, 1834 (P). Margaret Vedder Born Dec 17, 1803 (P). T_ _ abis Vedder Died June 7, 1867 age 39 years (P). Glady Fishbaugh Vedder 1895-1971 (P). Marilyn Vedder Barrie 1923-1999 (P). Romine J. Robinson 1858-1915. Sarah Bolt Vedder Died March 9, 1936 age 64 years (P). John O. Vedder died March 1923 age 60 years wife Carrie Ward died Nov 20, 1887 22 years, 3 months (P). William Veeder Born April 30, 1815 and died Sept 18, 1898and wifeJemima Wsetcoatt Born Aug 14, 1820, Died Jan 5, 1892. Jane Anna Veeder 1852-1905 (P). Altheda Veeder 1849-1936 (P). John D. Vedder Died Oct 24, 1906 age 74 yearswifeJane Ann Spring Died Aug 27, 1911 age 73 years (P). Azetta Pearl Kisby 1901-1970. Orsmer C. Kinney 1878-1929. Nicholas Vedder Born Oct 3, 1831 and Died Dec 18, 1918 (P). Elizabeth Vedder 1859-1916 (P). Simon Vedder 1854-1917 (2P). William Vedder 1856-1921 (P). James B. Vedder 1892-1914 (P). Clifford i. Vedder 1904-1985.+ 3 wives.Helen A. MacDongall 1906-1930 (P)Ella E. Blessing 1902-1966.Lillian J. Vedder 1911-2000 Abram G. Vedder 1868-1945&Gertrude E. Kelly 1873-1944 (2P) Jacob B. Vedder 1873-1944& Bertha Levey 1877-1954son Raymond J. Vedder 1902-1914. James B. Vedder Born May 28, 1828 and died Feb 2, 1889 (2P) Charles G. Vedder Born June 19, 1938 and died Sept 29, 2014.(P) Frank L. Vedder 1897-1985(P). Charles S. Vedder 1863-1945Wife Margaret J. Levey 1857-1925Wife Margaret B. Turnbull 1870-1957 (3P) Romine Robinson 1850-1919. Joseph Tidball 1874-1959. Pierre Vuille 1884-1977. Worthy Coss 1880-1943. Laurits Anderson Jr. 1910-2000. Laura Feely 1907-1977. Alfred Vedder 1870-1952wife Jennie B. Kelly 1875-1980 (8P) Genevie Dussault 1921-1995. Pardon S. Brown 1864-1935. Marie Vedder wife of Jacob i. Schermerhorn Died Aug 19, 1832 age 14 years. 1 month and 9 Days. (< catch the 14 years old at marriage date)(P). T_ _ cabis Vedder Died Feb 24, 1836 age 61 years, 21 days (P). Verla Combs 1910-1932. William Fleming Born Sept 3, 1876 and died Oct 4, 1940. John G. Lindblom Born Sweden July 8, 1878 and died Feb 12, 1942. Gurth Chandler 1893-1957. Joseph W. Couture 1902-1968. Flag Herrick 1926-1980. Out of this " Deprived of Life Plantation" at 12:14PM and walked 4.9 miles. 12:28PM brings me to Fisher Cemetery on Helderberg St @ 87F. Herman Vedder 1853-1928& wifeNancy Fischer 1850-1923 (P). Hiram C. Vedder 1891-1936 WW 1 Vet (P). Henry Vine Born Sept 30, 1847 and died May 22, 1895. Tilden Sharp Born June 9, 1876 and died June 24, 1942. (Sharpest corpse in the whole cemetery.) John F. Vedder Born March 27, 1882 and died Oct 27, 1905.(P) Jemimer Shannon Died Dec 6, 1865 age 77 years. Charles Kellerhouse 1823-1875. Coonrod Chism 1847-1925. Wymond Van Patten 1866-1938. George Goyaitte 1869-1914. Dorothy Lis 1908-2001. Isaac G. Dane 1754-1925.(< Which makes him 161, I'll bet that's a stone carvers error) inda Sutton 1872-1948. Harry J. Guyon 1894-1962. Burton S. Grabo 1906-1947. Marvin L. Day 1876-19_ _ . Cold chills, burning, pins and needles, back pain. So what else is new and a bit dizzy? Damn heat ! Walked 2.2 miles in this " Muted Meadows " and vacated at 1:57PM. 2:25PM its 97F. 2:47PM brings me to Rt 7, Niskayuna Reformed Church Cemetery @ 94F.(< also Schenectady) Inez Gss 1908-1998. Susan Fleming Born Aug 24, 1940 and died June 7, 2005. Brita L. Male 1930-2007.(Is Brita a male or female?) Lets not forget, Bag Pipers put the fun back in funerals.............................. Zaroohi Mihram 1888-1974. Not much of anything here. Walked .9 miles in this " Public Outage Patch " and vacated at 3:13PM @ 95F. 3:15PM brings me to Niskayuna Old Section , across the street, still Reformed Church @ 94F. Hannah E. Vedder 1845-1929 husbandLevi M. Strong 1847-1921 (P). Eleanor Vedder 1796-1862 husbandMorgan Strong 1796-1856 (P). Vedder Strong 1878-1907 (P). Hamer Strong Died Aug 27, 1881 age 81 years.(Hamer time) Palmer Vedder 1899-1983 (P). Simon H. Vedder Born April 2, 1847 and died Feb 13, 1923 (P). Hmmmmm Narrow homes for old bones. Mary Vedder wife of John Cowen Died April 20, 1837 age 62 years 5 months and 21 days. Lyman Vedder Born Aug 28, 1824 and died May 25, 1892 &Evyline Vedder Born Jan 1833 and died Jan 21, 1912 (P). William Vedder Died June 23, 1853 age 87 years wifeCatharine Vrooman Died Feb 18, 1878 age 95 years (2P). Mary Maude Whale 1889-1940 (P).(<No I didn't miss this............I just didn't want to say this was a whale of a find) Lany M. Terry Died Jan 22, 1868 age 47 years, 5 months and 13 days. Mathew Vedder Born Aug 4, 1826 and died March 6, 1915 (P). Catharine Vedder daughter of John W. and Alida Vedder died June 17, 1837 age 19 years (P). Alida Winne wife of John W. Vedder Died Nov 11, 1883 age 80 years (P). Catherine Vedder Born March 27, 1853 and died March 28, 1929 (P). William Vedder Died June 4, 1890 age 67 years (P). John Vedder Died__________ wife of Abiah Criffis Died Feb 6, 1870 age 67 years. Jacob Pearse, drowned in the Mohawk River Nov 22, 1831 age 11 yeas.(< Which was a Tues. back then, so he wasn't taking his weekend bath. Probably fishing) Orland W. Vaughn 1864-1943. Briska Slighter 1853-1928. Vacated this " Body Bog " at 4:43PM @ 97F and 1 flag, walked 2.7 miles. Heading home and as I'm going by Utica its 91F there. at 6:12PM Verona 87F at 6:30PM. Liverpool 91F at 7:03PM Got home at 7:13PM @ 87F and drove 302 miles for the day. Tolls even $12.00. Gas $25.25 for the trip. Walked 10.7 miles for the day. Visited 5 cemeteries for the day. Another fun day with the dead.......................... BestBill Hope you realize, a cemetery, in legal terms is " Just another family cover up ". :) _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community