I’m trying to determine who the parents of Marie Madeleine GIRARD are and who Michel GIRARD is. Fichier Origine states the following: [I have tried to translate it but am confused by the “son” and “ses” and “pour lui et en son nom”: Marie-Madeleine GIRARD m Charles JOBIN Are her parents Marin GIRARD and Francoise ANCEAU? Or Gilles GIRARD and Michelle MORLET???? En 1658, elle demeure à St-Germain-l'Auxerrois (rue des Canardières), et son père est cité défunt. En Nouvelle-France, ses parents sont nommés Michel Girard et Françoise Anceau. Son père, b. le 19-10-1609 à Le Vaudreuil (St-Cyr), Gilles Girard, tailleur d’habits, demeurant à Paris, rue des Deux Boules, paroisse Saint-Germain-l’Auxerrois, âgé de vingt six ans ou environ, fils de défunt Marin Girard, laboureur à Saint-Cyr-du-Vaudreuil en Normandie, et Madeleine Hébert, pour lui et en son nom, et Jean Morlet, marchand fripier à Paris, et Florence Lebreton, demeurant à la pointe Saint-Eustache, stipulant pour Michelle Morlet leur fille. [In 1658, she is living in St-Germain-l'Auxerrois (on the rue des Canardières), and her father is listed as deceased. In New-France, her parents are named Michel Girard and Françoise Anceau. Her father, born/baptized? 19 Oct 1609 in Le Vaudreuil (St-Cyr), Gilles Girard, clothing tailor, living in Paris, rue des Deux Boules, Parish of Saint-Germain-l’Auxerrois, aged 26 years old or about, son of the deceased Marin Girard, laborer of Saint-Cyr-du-Vaudreuil in Normandy, and Madeleine Hébert, pour lui et en son nom (for him and in his name-what does this mean?) And Jean Morlet, used-clothing merchant in Paris and Florence LeBreton, living at the Saint-Eustache point, stipulated by Michelle Morlet, their daughter.] PRDH shows family # 1038: Michel GIRARD, father and Françoise ANSEAUME (Anceau) as mother His parents are listed as Marin GIRARD and Madeleine HEBERT children of Michel and Françoise are: Marie Madeleine who marries Charles JOBIN Joachim who marries Marie HALLE BUT, when I click on the link to the family #58 of Marin GIRARD and Madeleine HEBERT, only a daughter, Marie, is listed and she is married to Jean JOBIN. Why is Michel GIRARD married to Francoise ANCEAU not listed if his name is listed on family record #1038 as having Marin and Madeleine as his parents? And why is Gilles not listed if he is also Marin's son? Thanks for any help getting this untangled. (I have also looked at NosOrigines and MesAieux but they list Marin as the father but that seems contradicted in FichierOrigine). Margie in Washington State

Hello, The Your Folks site lists the following: Marie Madeline Girard d/o Michel Girard and Francoise Anceaume and Charles Jobin s/o Jacques Jobin and Marguerite Roy Joyce

Hmmm. Have you received an answer yet? Marin Girard and Francoise Anceau are ancestors of mine. I'm also confused by the info on Fichier Origine concerning Marie Madeleine's parentage. Did you click on numérisé on her entry? It brings up what I believe is the marriage contract. My translation skills aren't great either. I believe that PRDH wouldn't have Michel and Gilles listed on the family document as children, since they didn't emigrate to New France. Perhaps Bertrand would be kind enough to shed some light on this matter. Jackie -----Original Message----- From: M. A. Beldin Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 8:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Q-R] Who are the Parents of Marie Madeleine GIRARD m1657 Charles JOBIN I’m trying to determine who the parents of Marie Madeleine GIRARD are and who Michel GIRARD is. Fichier Origine states the following: [I have tried to translate it but am confused by the “son” and “ses” and “pour lui et en son nom”: Marie-Madeleine GIRARD m Charles JOBIN Are her parents Marin GIRARD and Francoise ANCEAU? Or Gilles GIRARD and Michelle MORLET???? En 1658, elle demeure à St-Germain-l'Auxerrois (rue des Canardières), et son père est cité défunt. En Nouvelle-France, ses parents sont nommés Michel Girard et Françoise Anceau. Son père, b. le 19-10-1609 à Le Vaudreuil (St-Cyr), Gilles Girard, tailleur d’habits, demeurant à Paris, rue des Deux Boules, paroisse Saint-Germain-l’Auxerrois, âgé de vingt six ans ou environ, fils de défunt Marin Girard, laboureur à Saint-Cyr-du-Vaudreuil en Normandie, et Madeleine Hébert, pour lui et en son nom, et Jean Morlet, marchand fripier à Paris, et Florence Lebreton, demeurant à la pointe Saint-Eustache, stipulant pour Michelle Morlet leur fille. [In 1658, she is living in St-Germain-l'Auxerrois (on the rue des Canardières), and her father is listed as deceased. In New-France, her parents are named Michel Girard and Françoise Anceau. Her father, born/baptized? 19 Oct 1609 in Le Vaudreuil (St-Cyr), Gilles Girard, clothing tailor, living in Paris, rue des Deux Boules, Parish of Saint-Germain-l’Auxerrois, aged 26 years old or about, son of the deceased Marin Girard, laborer of Saint-Cyr-du-Vaudreuil in Normandy, and Madeleine Hébert, pour lui et en son nom (for him and in his name-what does this mean?) And Jean Morlet, used-clothing merchant in Paris and Florence LeBreton, living at the Saint-Eustache point, stipulated by Michelle Morlet, their daughter.] PRDH shows family # 1038: Michel GIRARD, father and Françoise ANSEAUME (Anceau) as mother His parents are listed as Marin GIRARD and Madeleine HEBERT children of Michel and Françoise are: Marie Madeleine who marries Charles JOBIN Joachim who marries Marie HALLE BUT, when I click on the link to the family #58 of Marin GIRARD and Madeleine HEBERT, only a daughter, Marie, is listed and she is married to Jean JOBIN. Why is Michel GIRARD married to Francoise ANCEAU not listed if his name is listed on family record #1038 as having Marin and Madeleine as his parents? And why is Gilles not listed if he is also Marin's son? Thanks for any help getting this untangled. (I have also looked at NosOrigines and MesAieux but they list Marin as the father but that seems contradicted in FichierOrigine). Margie in Washington State _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community