I have been doing some new research on Rene Maheu who married my 8th great-grandmother Jeanne Garnier/Gresnier abt 1635-1703 in 1657, and discovered there are a whole bunch of early settlers named Rene Maheu. So I set out to find if any were related. In a book titled "Searching Through the Old Records of New France" by Cyprien Tanguay, a translation by armand H. Demers, Jr. and found the following on page 35: "1646 October 12th A marriage contract was drawn up between Nicholas Macard and marguerite Couillard, the widow of Jean Nicolet and daughter of Guillaume Couillard. Friends and witnesses were: MM. De Montmagny, Gouveneur, René and Louis Maheu, cousins of the bride. The actual ceremony was celebrated on the 10th of November in the Church of Québec. (Québec Register)" I couldn't find a Louis Maheu in my tree so began a search, first through the above book, where I found on page 32: "1641, May 26th, The Burial of Adrien Dabancour dit Lacaille, the father-in-law of Jean Nicolet. He and his companion, Etienne Sevestre, had drowned on the 2nd of May in 1640 while hunting on the Iles-de-Bellechasse opposite Berthier. On the 20th of May in 1641, Jean Nicolet found his father-in-law's remains[10] and brought them to Quebec where they were solemnly buried in the Quebec cemetery. (Notre-Dame de Quebec Registers). [10] The location of Lacaille's remains was named after him--Lacaille's Point -- but is now know as Saint-Thomas-de-Montmagny. " and on page 33: "1642 November 3rd The first marriage of a Frenchman to an Indian woman to be blessed by the Church was celebrated in Québec. The husband was Martin Prévost and his wife was Marie-Olivier (Manitouabéwich) [a Huron Indian with Sylvestre as her family name]. He became a widower in 1665 [the 10th of September] and married Marie Dabancour, the widow of Godfroy Guillot and sister of Mme. Jean Nicolet on the 8th of November of that same year. (Québec Register)" Never having heard of Dabancour dit Lecaille, I started researching through Jetté and found neither name, so went to Martin Prévost, just for the heck of it. Hmm. He first married Marie-Olivier Sylvestre, but after her death remarried to Marie (d') Abancourt. So who in tarnation is the father-in-law of Jean Nicolet? Was his Indian wife really the sister of Prévost's first wife? If so, Jean's first wife's father would be Roch Manitouabéouich, right? So not the father-in-law buried in 1641. And since Jean never married Marie (d') Abancourt,. not Adrien. All this is supposed to have come from newspapers printed at the time of the events, so one might think the reportage fairly accurate? Any thoughts? Patricia in SW Florida
Patricia: Two different Jean Nicolets Jean Nicolet who married Marguerite Coillard was the son of Thomas Nicolet and Marguerite Delamer (d: 29 Oct 1642) ``````````````````````````````````````````` Marie Dabancour dit Lacaille d/o Adrien Dabancour dit Lacaille & Simone Dorgeville dit Horville m 1st: 09 Ocr 1939 at Quebec, Notre Dame parish Jean Nicolet born about 1596 Sezanne-en-brie, Champagne, Epernay-Marne, France died: 24 Apr 1651 bur 25 Apr - same parish M2: Geofrroy GUILLOT dit LAVALLEE 19 oCT 1651 SAME PARISH M3: Martin Prevost 08 Nov 1665, same parish `````````````````````````````````````` My husband is descended from both Jean Nicolets. all data resourced by parish registers. Fran L On 06/10/18 2:35 PM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote: I have been doing some new research on Rene Maheu who married my 8th great-grandmother Jeanne Garnier/Gresnier abt 1635-1703 in 1657, and discovered there are a whole bunch of early settlers named Rene Maheu. So I set out to find if any were related. In a book titled "Searching Through the Old Records of New France" by Cyprien Tanguay, a translation by armand H. Demers, Jr. and found the following on page 35: "1646 October 12th A marriage contract was drawn up between Nicholas Macard and marguerite Couillard, the widow of Jean Nicolet and daughter of Guillaume Couillard. Friends and witnesses were: MM. De Montmagny, Gouveneur, René and Louis Maheu, cousins of the bride. The actual ceremony was celebrated on the 10th of November in the Church of Québec. (Québec Register)" I couldn't find a Louis Maheu in my tree so began a search, first through the above book, where I found on page 32: "1641, May 26th, The Burial of Adrien Dabancour dit Lacaille, the father-in-law of Jean Nicolet. He and his companion, Etienne Sevestre, had drowned on the 2nd of May in 1640 while hunting on the Iles-de-Bellechasse opposite Berthier. On the 20th of May in 1641, Jean Nicolet found his father-in-law's remains[10] and brought them to Quebec where they were solemnly buried in the Quebec cemetery. (Notre-Dame de Quebec Registers). [10] The location of Lacaille's remains was named after him--Lacaille's Point -- but is now know as Saint-Thomas-de-Montmagny. " and on page 33: "1642 November 3rd The first marriage of a Frenchman to an Indian woman to be blessed by the Church was celebrated in Québec. The husband was Martin Prévost and his wife was Marie-Olivier (Manitouabéwich) [a Huron Indian with Sylvestre as her family name]. He became a widower in 1665 [the 10th of September] and married Marie Dabancour, the widow of Godfroy Guillot and sister of Mme. Jean Nicolet on the 8th of November of that same year. (Québec Register)" Never having heard of Dabancour dit Lecaille, I started researching through Jetté and found neither name, so went to Martin Prévost, just for the heck of it. Hmm. He first married Marie-Olivier Sylvestre, but after her death remarried to Marie (d') Abancourt. So who in tarnation is the father-in-law of Jean Nicolet? Was his Indian wife really the sister of Prévost's first wife? If so, Jean's first wife's father would be Roch Manitouabéouich, right? So not the father-in-law buried in 1641. And since Jean never married Marie (d') Abancourt,. not Adrien. All this is supposed to have come from newspapers printed at the time of the events, so one might think the reportage fairly accurate? Any thoughts? 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Marie Davencourt married 3 times #333 1639-10-09 Québec (Notre-Dame-de-Québec) JOLIET JEAN & DABANCOUR LACAILLE MARIE #689 1651-10-19 Québec (Notre-Dame-de-Québec) GUILLOT LAVALLEE & GEOFFROY DABANCOUR LACAILLE MARIE #1969 1665-11-08 Québec (Notre-Dame-de-Québec) PROVOST PREVOST MARTIN & DABANCOUR LACAILLE MARIE Notice her first marriage was to Jean Joliet not Nicolet no parents were mentioned Jean Joliet Jean Nicolet was a witness at that marriage Renee -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: October-06-18 2:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Q-R] Re: Quebec-Research Digest, Vol 13, Issue 174 I have been doing some new research on Rene Maheu who married my 8th great-grandmother Jeanne Garnier/Gresnier abt 1635-1703 in 1657, and discovered there are a whole bunch of early settlers named Rene Maheu. So I set out to find if any were related. In a book titled "Searching Through the Old Records of New France" by Cyprien Tanguay, a translation by armand H. Demers, Jr. and found the following on page 35: "1646 October 12th A marriage contract was drawn up between Nicholas Macard and marguerite Couillard, the widow of Jean Nicolet and daughter of Guillaume Couillard. Friends and witnesses were: MM. De Montmagny, Gouveneur, René and Louis Maheu, cousins of the bride. The actual ceremony was celebrated on the 10th of November in the Church of Québec. (Québec Register)" I couldn't find a Louis Maheu in my tree so began a search, first through the above book, where I found on page 32: "1641, May 26th, The Burial of Adrien Dabancour dit Lacaille, the father-in-law of Jean Nicolet. He and his companion, Etienne Sevestre, had drowned on the 2nd of May in 1640 while hunting on the Iles-de-Bellechasse opposite Berthier. On the 20th of May in 1641, Jean Nicolet found his father-in-law's remains[10] and brought them to Quebec where they were solemnly buried in the Quebec cemetery. (Notre-Dame de Quebec Registers). [10] The location of Lacaille's remains was named after him--Lacaille's Point -- but is now know as Saint-Thomas-de-Montmagny. " and on page 33: "1642 November 3rd The first marriage of a Frenchman to an Indian woman to be blessed by the Church was celebrated in Québec. The husband was Martin Prévost and his wife was Marie-Olivier (Manitouabéwich) [a Huron Indian with Sylvestre as her family name]. He became a widower in 1665 [the 10th of September] and married Marie Dabancour, the widow of Godfroy Guillot and sister of Mme. Jean Nicolet on the 8th of November of that same year. (Québec Register)" Never having heard of Dabancour dit Lecaille, I started researching through Jetté and found neither name, so went to Martin Prévost, just for the heck of it. Hmm. He first married Marie-Olivier Sylvestre, but after her death remarried to Marie (d') Abancourt. So who in tarnation is the father-in-law of Jean Nicolet? Was his Indian wife really the sister of Prévost's first wife? If so, Jean's first wife's father would be Roch Manitouabéouich, right? So not the father-in-law buried in 1641. And since Jean never married Marie (d') Abancourt,. not Adrien. All this is supposed to have come from newspapers printed at the time of the events, so one might think the reportage fairly accurate? Any thoughts? Patricia in SW Florida _
Adrien Dabancour dit Lacaille,was the father-in-law of Jean Joliet and not Nicolet -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: October-06-18 2:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Q-R] Re: Quebec-Research Digest, Vol 13, Issue 174 I have been doing some new research on Rene Maheu who married my 8th great-grandmother Jeanne Garnier/Gresnier abt 1635-1703 in 1657, and discovered there are a whole bunch of early settlers named Rene Maheu. So I set out to find if any were related. In a book titled "Searching Through the Old Records of New France" by Cyprien Tanguay, a translation by armand H. Demers, Jr. and found the following on page 35: "1646 October 12th A marriage contract was drawn up between Nicholas Macard and marguerite Couillard, the widow of Jean Nicolet and daughter of Guillaume Couillard. Friends and witnesses were: MM. De Montmagny, Gouveneur, René and Louis Maheu, cousins of the bride. The actual ceremony was celebrated on the 10th of November in the Church of Québec. (Québec Register)" I couldn't find a Louis Maheu in my tree so began a search, first through the above book, where I found on page 32: "1641, May 26th, The Burial of Adrien Dabancour dit Lacaille, the father-in-law of Jean Nicolet. He and his companion, Etienne Sevestre, had drowned on the 2nd of May in 1640 while hunting on the Iles-de-Bellechasse opposite Berthier. On the 20th of May in 1641, Jean Nicolet found his father-in-law's remains[10] and brought them to Quebec where they were solemnly buried in the Quebec cemetery. (Notre-Dame de Quebec Registers). [10] The location of Lacaille's remains was named after him--Lacaille's Point -- but is now know as Saint-Thomas-de-Montmagny. " and on page 33: "1642 November 3rd The first marriage of a Frenchman to an Indian woman to be blessed by the Church was celebrated in Québec. The husband was Martin Prévost and his wife was Marie-Olivier (Manitouabéwich) [a Huron Indian with Sylvestre as her family name]. He became a widower in 1665 [the 10th of September] and married Marie Dabancour, the widow of Godfroy Guillot and sister of Mme. Jean Nicolet on the 8th of November of that same year. (Québec Register)" Never having heard of Dabancour dit Lecaille, I started researching through Jetté and found neither name, so went to Martin Prévost, just for the heck of it. Hmm. He first married Marie-Olivier Sylvestre, but after her death remarried to Marie (d') Abancourt. So who in tarnation is the father-in-law of Jean Nicolet? Was his Indian wife really the sister of Prévost's first wife? If so, Jean's first wife's father would be Roch Manitouabéouich, right? So not the father-in-law buried in 1641. And since Jean never married Marie (d') Abancourt,. not Adrien. All this is supposed to have come from newspapers printed at the time of the events, so one might think the reportage fairly accurate? Any thoughts? Patricia in SW Florida