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    1. [Q-R] Joseph Louis Lefort (b1793) and his two wives, Marie Cantara and Rosalie Lapotrie (recap)

    3. Folks, I'm providing this as a recap of research of a French Canadian family that emigrated to upstate New York and then on to Vermont. I've been asking a bundle of questions on the list regarding them. So, I thought it best to put what is pretty much the synopsis of my research so far. Anyway, I cracked the nut. I'll be asking the PRDH and Genquebe to consider updating their databases. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- PRDH couple number 62551 rightly provides the birth and baptism of two brothers, Louis (b. Sorel, 1790) and Joseph (b. Sorel, 1793), sons of Louis Lefort and Marie Theotiste Vignola. A Louis Lefort married Marie Cantara, daughter of Michel Cantara and Joseph Arel, at Yamaska , 12 May 1823. PRDH and Genealogiequebec both ascribe this marriage to the older Louis Lefort (b. 1790) based on same name usage of these two early baptismal and marriage records and I think this is in error though logical with only these two records being used as justification. I believe, however, the groom of the marriage of Marie Cantara is in fact Joseph Louis Lefort (b. 1793). Any counter argument is welcome. PRDH built a family of four children around Louis Lefort (b. 1790) and Marie Cantara, even though two of the children's records use Joseph Lefort and the other two use Joseph Louis Lefort as the father. The name Louis is not used by itself. Children: Joseph (b. Yamaska, 1824), Marie Louise (b. Yamaska, 1826), Sophie (b. Yamaska, 1828) and Justine (b. and d. Yamaska 1830) At some time after 1830, the family immigrated to the Coopersville/Chazy area of upstate New York. This is where (aside for the name used on the children's records) we have corroborating evidence that the father is indeed Joseph (b 1793) and NOT Louis (b. 1790). On 18 Sep 1849 in Coopersville, Clinton, NY, Joseph Lefort, son of Louis Lefort, and widower of Marie Cantara, married Marie Rosalie Godin dit Lapoterie (b. 1821). In the 1860 census, Joseph is 66 putting his birth date at 1793/94; the 1870 census backs this up putting the birth date at 1793/94. Joseph Lefort died 1 Mar 1879 and was buried 3 Mar 1879 in Coopersville, Clinton, NY. His age being "about" 87 (birth about 1892/93). He was the husband of Rosalie. This couple proceeded to have a number of children themselves, all born in the US (most of which have baptismal records in Chazy - Joseph and Rosalie (or odd variations): Rosalie (b. 1850); Theodore (b. 1851); Paul Napolean (b. 1854); Allie Maglorie (b. 1857); John M. (b. 1859); Amelia (b. 1864); and Jessie Rosella (b. 1873). It is interesting to note that all of these later children used the anglicized name, Wilfore, during their lifetimes, and almost all of which immigrated by 1890 to central Vermont. Rosalie, the mother, died 28 Dec 1912 in Berlin, Washington, VT, while living with her daughter Amelia Wilfore, wife of Almon St. John. I've found many of the children's baptismal records as Lefort, but marriage and death records as Wilfore - dates match as does the census records. Additionally, the 1860 FC NY provides another child for the first marriage, Joseph and Marie Cantara. Her name was Lenora (b. 8 Aug 1842). And, there is possibly another son, Hercule Lefort, who was a witness to Joseph's burial. With the equation as stated above, it might provide the clues to research the period between Sorel/Yamaska and Chazy, NY. Here are the links to the docs ref'ed above. Canada: 62551: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.prdh-2Digd.com_Membership_en_PRDH_Famille_62551&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=yO_GlrwCAXrTO8gfxGm_dCMCJGx7GlTT0cpEtg2gmyA&s=fX1SlI7W1bBFXG5nT4fuaqfVaelxnk9fDAP2dVM_93c&e= 695895 Louis Lefort: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.prdh-2Digd.com_Membership_en_PRDH_Acte_695895&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=yO_GlrwCAXrTO8gfxGm_dCMCJGx7GlTT0cpEtg2gmyA&s=n_lt6VYaXokDtoMZ74SmuYncFrfWo3PqdSxOawjjFwM&e= 696074 Joseph Lefort: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.prdh-2Digd.com_Membership_en_PRDH_Acte_696074&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=yO_GlrwCAXrTO8gfxGm_dCMCJGx7GlTT0cpEtg2gmyA&s=MRoLg2r5x3h_yZO__y5dDDbemQLeuJbegslx_2HEmII&e= 2298733 Marriage of Louis Lefort: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.prdh-2Digd.com_Membership_en_PRDH_Acte_2298733&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=yO_GlrwCAXrTO8gfxGm_dCMCJGx7GlTT0cpEtg2gmyA&s=EzmMAYa6gGtzer-VuOJUjpBb0S5GQN-qj-sVLPwCSis&e= 2563400 Joseph Lefort (child) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.prdh-2Digd.com_Membership_en_PRDH_Acte_2563400&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=yO_GlrwCAXrTO8gfxGm_dCMCJGx7GlTT0cpEtg2gmyA&s=swb99THeEzMJ9P2-UxZZ1HNxjtVMyqJNL6w1d4ETQNA&e= 448994 Marie Louise (child) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.prdh-2Digd.com_Membership_en_PRDH_Acte_4489944&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=yO_GlrwCAXrTO8gfxGm_dCMCJGx7GlTT0cpEtg2gmyA&s=uzvz91T-RS2QUMxvbXSrHu5GeGIISKJLUahUKT7Bg04&e= 4490517 Sophie (Child) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.prdh-2Digd.com_Membership_en_PRDH_Acte_4490517&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=yO_GlrwCAXrTO8gfxGm_dCMCJGx7GlTT0cpEtg2gmyA&s=uYLDb1x48ALe1Y3t_a0YpWKHYCpqc5h8WM3vy-oMkCE&e= 4495476 Justine (child) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.prdh-2Digd.com_Membership_en_PRDH_Acte_4495476&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=yO_GlrwCAXrTO8gfxGm_dCMCJGx7GlTT0cpEtg2gmyA&s=1LFmZkd27t5vd_n9tukGnc-3dndP7pF6EsKBJSLy0_k&e= Coopersville/Chazy New York: Joseph Lefort and Rosalie Lapoterie Marriage: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1111/d13p_34240166/2052?backurl=https:/ /http://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/57364495/person/40268925328/facts/ citation/522053724129/edit/record 1860 FC NY: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7667/4235903_00195/49185596?backurl=htt ps://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/57364495/person/40268925328/fa cts/citation/522054891588/edit/record 1870 FC NY: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7163/4274956_00469/28037690?backurl=htt ps://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/57364495/person/40268925328/fa cts/citation/522054944033/edit/record Joseph Lefort burial: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7163/4274956_00469/28037690?backurl=htt ps://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/57364495/person/40268925328/fa cts/citation/522054944033/edit/record

    10/04/2018 07:09:22
    1. [Q-R] Re: [Pourriel Potentiel] Joseph Louis Lefort (b1793) and his two wives, Marie Cantara and Rosalie Lapotrie (recap)
    2. Desjardins Bertrand

    3. Just as I was ready to write here that we would make the necessary changes to our information, we received your e-mail requesting the change! So be assured we will take your work into account. Thank you. Bertrand Desjardins PRDH-IGD ________________________________________ De : [email protected] [[email protected]] Envoyé : 4 octobre 2018 09:09 À : 'Quebec Research list' Objet : [Pourriel Potentiel] [Q-R] Joseph Louis Lefort (b1793) and his two wives, Marie Cantara and Rosalie Lapotrie (recap) Folks, I'm providing this as a recap of research of a French Canadian family that emigrated to upstate New York and then on to Vermont. I've been asking a bundle of questions on the list regarding them. So, I thought it best to put what is pretty much the synopsis of my research so far. Anyway, I cracked the nut. I'll be asking the PRDH and Genquebe to consider updating their databases. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- PRDH couple number 62551 rightly provides the birth and baptism of two brothers, Louis (b. Sorel, 1790) and Joseph (b. Sorel, 1793), sons of Louis Lefort and Marie Theotiste Vignola. A Louis Lefort married Marie Cantara, daughter of Michel Cantara and Joseph Arel, at Yamaska , 12 May 1823. PRDH and Genealogiequebec both ascribe this marriage to the older Louis Lefort (b. 1790) based on same name usage of these two early baptismal and marriage records and I think this is in error though logical with only these two records being used as justification. I believe, however, the groom of the marriage of Marie Cantara is in fact Joseph Louis Lefort (b. 1793). Any counter argument is welcome. PRDH built a family of four children around Louis Lefort (b. 1790) and Marie Cantara, even though two of the children's records use Joseph Lefort and the other two use Joseph Louis Lefort as the father. The name Louis is not used by itself. Children: Joseph (b. Yamaska, 1824), Marie Louise (b. Yamaska, 1826), Sophie (b. Yamaska, 1828) and Justine (b. and d. Yamaska 1830) At some time after 1830, the family immigrated to the Coopersville/Chazy area of upstate New York. This is where (aside for the name used on the children's records) we have corroborating evidence that the father is indeed Joseph (b 1793) and NOT Louis (b. 1790). On 18 Sep 1849 in Coopersville, Clinton, NY, Joseph Lefort, son of Louis Lefort, and widower of Marie Cantara, married Marie Rosalie Godin dit Lapoterie (b. 1821). In the 1860 census, Joseph is 66 putting his birth date at 1793/94; the 1870 census backs this up putting the birth date at 1793/94. Joseph Lefort died 1 Mar 1879 and was buried 3 Mar 1879 in Coopersville, Clinton, NY. His age being "about" 87 (birth about 1892/93). He was the husband of Rosalie. This couple proceeded to have a number of children themselves, all born in the US (most of which have baptismal records in Chazy - Joseph and Rosalie (or odd variations): Rosalie (b. 1850); Theodore (b. 1851); Paul Napolean (b. 1854); Allie Maglorie (b. 1857); John M. (b. 1859); Amelia (b. 1864); and Jessie Rosella (b. 1873). It is interesting to note that all of these later children used the anglicized name, Wilfore, during their lifetimes, and almost all of which immigrated by 1890 to central Vermont. Rosalie, the mother, died 28 Dec 1912 in Berlin, Washington, VT, while living with her daughter Amelia Wilfore, wife of Almon St. John. I've found many of the children's baptismal records as Lefort, but marriage and death records as Wilfore - dates match as does the census records. Additionally, the 1860 FC NY provides another child for the first marriage, Joseph and Marie Cantara. Her name was Lenora (b. 8 Aug 1842). And, there is possibly another son, Hercule Lefort, who was a witness to Joseph's burial. With the equation as stated above, it might provide the clues to research the period between Sorel/Yamaska and Chazy, NY. Here are the links to the docs ref'ed above. Canada: 62551: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.prdh-2Digd.com_Membership_en_PRDH_Famille_62551&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=yO_GlrwCAXrTO8gfxGm_dCMCJGx7GlTT0cpEtg2gmyA&s=fX1SlI7W1bBFXG5nT4fuaqfVaelxnk9fDAP2dVM_93c&e= 695895 Louis Lefort: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.prdh-2Digd.com_Membership_en_PRDH_Acte_695895&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=yO_GlrwCAXrTO8gfxGm_dCMCJGx7GlTT0cpEtg2gmyA&s=n_lt6VYaXokDtoMZ74SmuYncFrfWo3PqdSxOawjjFwM&e= 696074 Joseph Lefort: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.prdh-2Digd.com_Membership_en_PRDH_Acte_696074&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=yO_GlrwCAXrTO8gfxGm_dCMCJGx7GlTT0cpEtg2gmyA&s=MRoLg2r5x3h_yZO__y5dDDbemQLeuJbegslx_2HEmII&e= 2298733 Marriage of Louis Lefort: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.prdh-2Digd.com_Membership_en_PRDH_Acte_2298733&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=yO_GlrwCAXrTO8gfxGm_dCMCJGx7GlTT0cpEtg2gmyA&s=EzmMAYa6gGtzer-VuOJUjpBb0S5GQN-qj-sVLPwCSis&e= 2563400 Joseph Lefort (child) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.prdh-2Digd.com_Membership_en_PRDH_Acte_2563400&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=yO_GlrwCAXrTO8gfxGm_dCMCJGx7GlTT0cpEtg2gmyA&s=swb99THeEzMJ9P2-UxZZ1HNxjtVMyqJNL6w1d4ETQNA&e= 448994 Marie Louise (child) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.prdh-2Digd.com_Membership_en_PRDH_Acte_4489944&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=yO_GlrwCAXrTO8gfxGm_dCMCJGx7GlTT0cpEtg2gmyA&s=uzvz91T-RS2QUMxvbXSrHu5GeGIISKJLUahUKT7Bg04&e= 4490517 Sophie (Child) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.prdh-2Digd.com_Membership_en_PRDH_Acte_4490517&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=yO_GlrwCAXrTO8gfxGm_dCMCJGx7GlTT0cpEtg2gmyA&s=uYLDb1x48ALe1Y3t_a0YpWKHYCpqc5h8WM3vy-oMkCE&e= 4495476 Justine (child) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.prdh-2Digd.com_Membership_en_PRDH_Acte_4495476&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=yO_GlrwCAXrTO8gfxGm_dCMCJGx7GlTT0cpEtg2gmyA&s=1LFmZkd27t5vd_n9tukGnc-3dndP7pF6EsKBJSLy0_k&e= Coopersville/Chazy New York: Joseph Lefort and Rosalie Lapoterie Marriage: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1111/d13p_34240166/2052?backurl=https:/ /http://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/57364495/person/40268925328/facts/ citation/522053724129/edit/record 1860 FC NY: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7667/4235903_00195/49185596?backurl=htt ps://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/57364495/person/40268925328/fa cts/citation/522054891588/edit/record 1870 FC NY: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7163/4274956_00469/28037690?backurl=htt ps://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/57364495/person/40268925328/fa cts/citation/522054944033/edit/record Joseph Lefort burial: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7163/4274956_00469/28037690?backurl=htt ps://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/57364495/person/40268925328/fa cts/citation/522054944033/edit/record _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_groups_QRlist_&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=F52a7LXJB2BTyR8e9I2X-so4UvwgHHB2prQ6JYFN33M&s=5_Detvm4hpbEFkDUMUaksOyJl-wg5UniZD2EPxJcWpU&e= List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=F52a7LXJB2BTyR8e9I2X-so4UvwgHHB2prQ6JYFN33M&s=f4fvP5zY9IUJPaUv-J6-8IbhlrBPnh2WV9bsjnt8vqU&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=F52a7LXJB2BTyR8e9I2X-so4UvwgHHB2prQ6JYFN33M&s=BLAn25NNaE-KPVU5gaywAUEOiUMonYT0vffXJNWvh9w&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=F52a7LXJB2BTyR8e9I2X-so4UvwgHHB2prQ6JYFN33M&s=uWREYt905w5E66uXpaL7TJIL9uQ68gB_hJb9DSmAKxY&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

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