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    1. [Q-R] Re: [Pourriel Potentiel] Re: Theophilas Chartier marriage
    2. Lisa Lepore
    3. Bonjour Bertrand, I don’t know if any of this will help, but once I started, I had to finish. Apparently I mis-spoke about the Springfield Diocese. That wasn’t established until June 14 1870, so the whole state was under the Diocese of Boston in 1846. The Archives of the Archdiocese of Boston is where these old records are kept. They have a page here https://www.bostoncatholic.org/Offices-And-Services/Office-Detail.aspx?id=12 298 <https://www.bostoncatholic.org/Offices-And-Services/Office-Detail.aspx?id=1 2298&pid=1484> &pid=1484 https://books.google.com/books?id=x701SWintW0C <https://books.google.com/books?id=x701SWintW0C&q=st+anne#v=onepage&q=church &f=false> &q=st+anne#v=onepage&q=church&f=false Page 15 lists the churches with their dates. St John’s Church 1842 https://www.stjohnsworcester.org/ St Ann’s Church, originally called St. Anne’s 1856 https://www.telegram.com/news/20170429/st-anns-foretold-rise-fall-of-downtow n-churches St Paul Cathedral 1869 https://www.cathedralofsaintpaul.com/history Notre Dame de l’Assomtion des Canadiens 1869 https://www.flickr.com/photos/saintetienne/albums/72157668203050198/ St. Anne & Notre Dame have been demolished, but they were French churches. For a civil record, I would suggest the Massachusetts State Archives. The people there are helpful, and hopefully would be able to figure out if there is an actual marriage register for Worcester that would have the normal information – names, address, occupation, parents’ names, and name of the priest who married them [if they married in a church]- rather than this hodge podge of data that is on the ancestry site. It’s possible that “Certificate issued January 2, 1847” is all there is, or it’s possible they were not sorted out before they were filmed. They may also have an actual marriage register for Millbury if the marriage was recorded there, since the ancestry data only has the marriage intentions. Again, maybe that’s all there is? https://www.sec.state.ma.us/arc/arcgen/genidx.htm#1841 Generally speaking, the marriage could be in both Worcester and Millville, although I don’t know when they started recording things in both places for sure. Because the bride lived in Millville and filed the intention there, Millville would have been notified that the marriage was complete assuming the priest returned the record…. Since the marriage actually took place in Worcester, the record will be there as well. Massachusetts State Archives 617-727-2816 Fax: 617-288-8429 Email: <mailto:archives@sec.state.ma.us> archives@sec.state.ma.us Lisa lisa.lepore2@gmail.com From: Desjardins Bertrand [mailto:bertrand.desjardins@umontreal.ca] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:05 AM To: 'Quebec Research list' Subject: [Q-R] Re: [Pourriel Potentiel] Re: Theophilas Chartier marriage Thank you for this very thorough answer. They intended to marry, and they did, probably early in 1847. But where is the record? Bertrand _____ De : Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@gmail.com> Envoyé : 30 août 2019 03:51:40 À : 'Quebec Research list' <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> Objet : [Q-R] Re: [Pourriel Potentiel] Re: Theophilas Chartier marriage Bonjour Bertrand, After looking at all the records in the Millbury book which is online at familysearch, all of the records there are marriage intentions, and not the actual marriage records. One of the ancestry items below is labelled as the marriage record - This record says the intention was 16 December 1846, but it was actually recorded as 26 December 1846 in Millbury. The record reads Mr. Theophilus Chartier of Worcester and Miss Elizabeth Dumas of Millbury, Intention entered 16 December 1846 and posted at the Town Hall. Certificate issued January 2, 1847. Although this record is labelled as a marriage record, this section of these records is under the section heading of Marriage Intentions. The collection is called Town and City Clerks of Massachusetts. Massachusetts Vital and Town Records, Provo, UT: Holbrook Research Institute (Jay and Delene Holbrook) There are other sections in this collection that are plainly marriage records. They are recorded on a different form and have a place for the parents, and the location of the marriage, etc. I don’t know if these records don’t exist for 1846 Worcester, or if this collection is not complete. Another of these links leads to a transcribed records of Millbury, and just gives the same marriage intention as above. You can find this book here https://archive.org/details/vitalrecordsmil00massgoog/page/n7 As far as Worcester parish records, maybe someone will know what churches were there at that time. Worcester was part of the Diocese of Springfield until 1950. Lisa lisa.lepore2@gmail.com From: Desjardins Bertrand [mailto:bertrand.desjardins@umontreal.ca] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 11:12 AM To: Quebec Research list Cc: dhazvt@aol.com Subject: [Q-R] Re: [Pourriel Potentiel] Re: Theophilas Chartier marriage Bonjour, Thank you for trying to solve my problem! I knew about the «Intention to marry». I was hoping the actual marriage might be found in Millbury or Worcester parish records but I do not have access to them. On this screen on Ancestry, there is a link to an image, but as I have only the .ca subscription, I can't view it. Is it only the «Intention ti marry? Best to you all. Bertrand _____ De : dot hemingway via Quebec-Research <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> Envoyé : 26 août 2019 20:51:33 À : quebec-research@rootsweb.com <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> Cc : dhazvt@aol.com <dhazvt@aol.com> Objet : [Pourriel Potentiel] [Q-R] Re: Theophilas Chartier marriage It looks like recorded town records, would like to see the certificate, but maybe December 26 is a good of date of marriage as it is between the 16th and 2nd January. Was there a Catholic church in existence one could go to go check records in 1846? -----Original Message----- From: linp219--- via Quebec-Research <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> To: quebec-research <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> Cc: linp219 <linp219@aol.com> Sent: Mon, Aug 26, 2019 06:22 PM Subject: [Q-R] Re: Theophilas Chartier marriage HI Dot, I saw that too, after I had firsts responded to Bertrand. I still can'tfind the actual marriage data though. I tried for hours -----Original Message----- From: dot hemingway via Quebec-Research <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> To: quebec-research <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> Cc: dhazvt <dhazvt@aol.com> Sent: Mon, Aug 26, 2019 7:47 pm Subject: [Q-R] Re: Theophilas Chartier marriage On ancestry it has that they filed their intention on 16 December 1846 and certificate was issued 2nd January 1847 from Worcester records. Names were Theophilias Chartier of Worcester and Elizabeth Damas Millbury. Place of marriage Worcester. Going back to 3rd page of records these were records from Worcester. -----Original Message----- From: linp219--- via Quebec-Research <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> To: quebec-research <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> Cc: linp219 <linp219@aol.com> Sent: Mon, Aug 26, 2019 03:13 PM Subject: [Q-R] Re: Theophilas Chartier marriage Hello Bertrand On Dec. 26 1846, the couple filed their intentions to marry, but from whatI read this was not the marriage date. I am looking a printed text notan original record, which I cannot find in the NEHGS. Linnie -----Original Message----- From: Desjardins Bertrand <bertrand.desjardins@umontreal.ca> To: Quebec Research list <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Aug 26, 2019 4:32 pm Subject: [Q-R] Theophilas Chartier marriage Bonjour, Looking for the parents of Theophilas Chartier and of Elizabeth Dumas (Betsey DeMoore apparently in the record) married December 26 1846 in Millbury, Massachusetts. Anyone have access to the original record? Thank you in advance... Bertrand Desjardins _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: https://sites.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/quebec-research@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: https://sites.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/quebec-research@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: https://sites.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/quebec-research@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: https://sites.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/quebec-research@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: https://sites.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/quebec-research@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    09/02/2019 09:31:54
    1. [Q-R] Re: Cemetery Report : Aug 15, 2019 "No Horses Allowed"
    2. BoxsterSJim
    3.  Dear Bill - Please watch out in the heat and humidity.  It sneaks up on you fast, so stay hydrated and in the shade as much as possible.  We don't want to see anything happen to you! My mother's first cousin married a Chesebro...you found a Dillazon Chesebro.  I'll relay that to my distant cousin who is researching...I think he's in Watertown. Thanks for the cemetery reports! Take Care,Jim  -----Original Message----- From: William Fleming via Quebec-Research <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> To: quebec-research <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> Cc: William Fleming <wflem72706@aol.com> Sent: Mon, Sep 2, 2019 4:07 pm Subject: [Q-R] Cemetery Report : Aug 15, 2019 "No Horses Allowed" How about, out of the garage this time, at 6:41AM @ 63F, almost my Temp. range. On the way to the first cemetery is a herd of turkeys, these are the kind in the fields and along the roads, not like the ones who try to drive cars and are also on the roads and sometimes in the fields.................I counted 7. So, if I saw and heard a herd of turkeys, could it be they were really heard-herd turkeys??????????, if they were gobbling that is.................LOL Oh well................. Many cemeteries in Madison County listed on the maps weren't there. I check within a 1/2 mile radius of where its supposed to be. Check the woods etc, either totally grown over or have been moved.Oh, I got it, body snatchers are responsible......................well, those cemeteries got crossed off the map anyway. 8:02AM brings me to North Brookfield, New York cemetery on Roue 12.(ahhhhh north or south depending on how the car us sitting and where I'm looking.................   :) )  @ 62F. Rocelia D. Collins                 1839-1919. Denison Fisk                    1807-1893. Statira Mason                  1824-1917. This cemetery has lots of damage and don't believe its vandalism, just old and not taken care of especially the older internment's., its also on some very bad real estate and some what dangerous. I was in some precarious positions and overhangs that I wasn't crazy about. Legrand Birdsall                 1878-1934. (< he had Robbins, 3 for $1) Mate Nash                      Died Sept 14, 1884 age 25 years. (< isn't that an Australian name?) Denslow H. Talcott                    Died Oct 2, 1876 age 29 years and 22 days. Vernell Talcott                Died Sept 2, 1856 ivanore Morgan Clayton                    Died Feb 8, 1907 age 33 years. Morell W. Snow(               < don't I wish) 1862-1881. Delos A. Worden                   Died May 4, 1877 age 65 years. Varnum G. Green                        Died Jan 9, 1852. Lavantia O. Parks                   Died May 24, 1892 age 54 years. Lonelle L. Kenyon                   1879-1968. Isora A. Newton                      1843-1921. As in France, New France relied on all sorts of bad luck blamed on witch craft. New France witches flew by night for satanic ceremonies that mocked Christian rituals. Mere Catherine de Saint Augustin ,had an invisible force reveal to her that the demons meet in the monastery's chapel and steal consecrated hosts. She(Catherine-Nun) in 1667 when a deceased Jesuit missionary, Jean de Brebeuf appeared to her in ecstasy and informed her that she must see to the salvation of a Quebec sorcerer. So they believed in witches more then thought. Ingham H. Birdsall                    1866-1908. Satira R. Orcutt              1893-1913. Ona Loomis Isaacs               1871-1940. Arvello Kling                    1865-1937.( <Kling reminds me of Saran wrap) Raldo Kling                   1858-1912. Vestella S. Kling                1866-1944. Isma A. Hardy                  1877-1973. Tacy A. Moore                      1847-1922. This cemetery was established 1810. Picked up 6 flags. Walked .7 mile in this  " Permanent Accommodations Park " Vacated at 9:09AM @ 64F. 9:50AM brings me to Hubbardsville, Cemetery @ 67F on Wickwire Road. Roman Cursh                   1888-1966. Louis E. Ditch             1912-1962 (P) Fenton York                  1928-1992. Suetta York                1930- _ _ _ _ . Sally Excell                 1929-1973. I am way out in the country and there is absolutely no noise...................  :)   Dead quiet. Oral J. House                 Pvt. US Army  WW 1 Born Sept 24,1899 and died Nov 9, 1973. Two deer just popped out of the corn field.  Staring at me. I really expected old time baseball players to come out of the corn, but, I get deer. Oris R. House                 1928-2007. Jessica Suzanne Drown              Born Feb 10, 1979 died Feb 23, 1979. Delivernce Hatch Green               1769-1862. Another deer just came out of the corn, the tail is really wagging fast. John D. Mortis                        1911-1952.  ( <Bet he has Rigor Mortis by now) Alettie F. Seabury                   1868-1943. Earl Orne                     1895-1919 Died in France  WW 1. DeForest Elphick                       1855-1945. Sereno Willey                      1844-1911. Zebulon York                        1817-1894. Devereau W. Usher                  1831-1901. Emer Hunt Colson                  1834-1861. Galphurnia Dunbar                       Died Dec 12, 1875 age 62 years and 7 months. Dillazon M. Chesebro                         1814-1893. Altana C. Beach                       Died Oct 7, 1860 age 30 years 4 months and 19 days( <sorry folks, there was no son of a Beach  buried here) Volkert Palmer                        Died Jan 26, 1879, 74 years 9 months and 10 days. 1737 Francois Roy accused Charles Raymond-Passe-Montagne of being a sorcerer at Montreal. He was accused of taking off into the clouds.(< I didnt know they could do that back then :)Another account, in 1671 Nicole Rolland declared to the Quebec Tribunal that Perrine Morel's grandfather had put grease in a pot and that the servant of the grandfather had greased a wagon with it and the wagon remained invisible. But, Perrine herself was accused of bewitching a herd of animals. Witchcraft was often seen as hereditary.(< anyone related to these people??????)  LOL DeEtte Palmer                    1846-1885. DeLuney Stebbins                  Born April 9, 1808 and died Feb 16, 1897. Columbus Rhoades                    Born Dec 21, 1824 and died March 5, 1911. Branzolette Rhoades                    Born March 28, 1830 and died May 5, 1866. Nahum Phoades                       Died Feb 19, 1815 age 30 years. Zipha Murdock                     Died April 20, 1849 age 49 years 8 months and 27 days. Abigail Sturtevant                         Died Sept 3, 1873 at Benton Harbor, Michigan age 65 years. Azubah Fuller Murphy                   1831-1910. Ellen Underdown                      1835-1908 (< could she be an Australian ?) Celinda C. Sawdey                   Died Aug 8, 1901 age 87. Reuben Green                         Born May 19, 1795 and died March 12, 1893.(< I could go for a reuben right about now) DeAlton Clarke                    1853-1937. Zayda M. York                        1882-1968. More deer just popped out of the cornfield.............. Vyron L. Lake                  1901-1955. Norva C. Risley                   1877-19_ _ . Cleora R. Gilbert                   1848-1931. Safford R. Clark                      Died March 4, 1876 age 54 years. Celora L. Downing                 Died Sept 29, 1859 age 22 years 1 month and 14 days. Sparrow Fuller                   Died Dec 6, 1848 age 49 years (< give him a tweet for sure) Enock Smith                       Born June 20, 1810 and died May 25, 1896. During the American Revolution, active soldiers would talk the cemetery sextons into letting them dig up former soldiers/and or enter a crypt of a former soldier to cut off pieces of the soldiers collar and wristband, which was divided among active soldiers as talismans to help them in upcoming battles. Eliphalet Murdock                   Died Jan 8, 1852 age 76 years. This cemetery is near excellent with care. Dealton Taylor                   Born May 2, 1852 and died May 11, 1932. Lavanchia J. Palmer                     Died March 16, 1861 age 16 years 10 months and 3 days. Roxa Fuller                  1796-1821. Merville H. Parlin                (no dates) Elliott A. Franklin                      Died Jan 27, 1865 at Salisbury, North Carolina, Civil War age 25 years. Hackliah Armstrong                          Died Aug 15, 1849 age 58 years. Hmmmmmm  The Brady(Bunch) family is buried here, but no Marsha........... Mahala E. Taylor                          Died Oct 28, 1888 age 62 years 4 months and 12 days. Now I came upon a sign that this cemetery does not allow horses. hmmmmmmmm Zula A. Sprague                     1875-1947 (< Sue alert) Well I now see a horse, maybe he is the guilty party the sign was meant for. His fence borders the cemetery and as I'm all done here, I'll see if I can make a friend. Did you know horses like milk bone dog biscuits? He sure liked the one I just gave him. Petted his head and he licked my hand........................... Picked up 7 flags Walked 2.8 miles in this " Termination Station". Vacated at 11:59AM @ 75F. 1:34PM brings me to Waterville, N.Y. @ 76F, Waterville Cemetery. It took me that long to find the next cemetery. This trip many cemeteries marked on the map are no longer there. Moved or long totally overgrown that I cant find. And I check woods and use binoculars. ( And I even talk to living people about them occasionally)   :) Charlemagne Tower               Born April 18, 1809 and died July 24, 1889. Elizabeth Goodwin                 Born Wales 1784 and died 1884. Julia A. Gaskill                 1838-1914. (<Hope she gets relieved) Backus A. Beardsley               Born Dec 3, 1816 and died Dec 19, 1896. David R. Morris                    Born Montgomeryshire, North Wales May 15, 1824 and died July 12, 1889. Fanny Angell Tooley                   1842-1914. Fimbria Tooley                 Died Sept 8, 1855 age 51 years. Lebbeus Geer                Born 1757 and died 1846, Veteran of the Revolutionary War. Platt Camp                   Died Jan 11, 1876 age 60 years 1 month and 20 days. Owen Lewis                  Born Towen(< as spelled on the stone) Meironethshire, North Wales Died July 7, 1856 age 38 years 11 months. Eri Terry Wells                1838-1904. Asralena Dann                 Born Jan 1, 1823 and died Jan 23, 1900. Fitch Hewett                1812-1887. Shubel Hubbard             Born Jan 7, 1802 and died Sept 16, 1886. Charles A. Seymour             Born May 22, 1827 and died Feb 28, 1861 (< Jim alert)   wifeSarah A. Devoe                   Born Dec 8, 1832 and died Jan 1, 1909. Devello i. Terry                   1858-1938. Emerancy A. Melvin                  1844-1919. Gay R. Sanford                     Born Dec 28, 1839 and died June 30, 1901. Elbridge A. Bachelder 1               840-1916. Ashbel S. Pierce                  1812-1891. Boltous Bookhout                    Born Oct 7, 1836. Pollecsa Eaton               1846-1902 Sareptce Benedict                 Born June 5, 1813 and died March 19, 1892. Eroly J. Norton                   1834-_ _ _ _ .            Julia A. Vibbard                    1820-1907. John Stapler                   Died June 11, 1882 age 78 years and 3 months.(P) Anna Hodges Wilson                  Born Aug 20, 1855 Stoughton, Massachusetts and died Oct 12, 1912. Aaron Stafford                     Born Lanesborough, Massachusetts March 18, 1787 and died Sept 6, 1885   wifeHarriet Terry                       Born Ennfield, Connecticut Dec 8, 1794 and died April 5, 1875. Herman T. Greenslit                  Born Aug 27, 1821 and died June 14, 1862. Sergt. Andrew T. Rowell,                   killed in battle at Richmond, Virginia, Civil War Oct 27, 1864 age 22 years 6 months and 14 days. Enoch Tefft                    Died Aug 8, 1867 age 79 years. Lurinda F. Avery                    Died March 28, 1860 age 58 years. Simeon Walker,                 War of 1812 Vet. Born 1776 and died 1847. William Osborn                   Born Trumbull, Connecticut Died June 15, 1858 age 73 years 7 months and 13 days. Amos Osborn                   Born Fairfield, Connecticut Nov 30, 1764 and died July 3, 1848 age 83 years 7 months and 3 days. Julius Candee                Born Oxford, Connecticut Feb 19, 1800 and died July 2, 1880. Sarah A. Duty                 Born Ashtabula, Ohio Nov 29, 1810 and died March 15, 1860. Now I'm getting dizzy, feet are hard to pick up......................damn heat. Ormieliah A. Gregory                     Born Dec 17, 1857 and died Sept 7, 1864. Nauseated feeling.................. Done, and my first two tries, I couldn't pick up my feet enough to get them in the car. Third time I got in. Air conditioner on Hi and out of the sun, with a ice cold bottle of water, feeling much better within seconds and about 2 minutes later, feel perfectly fine. Picked up 4 flags @ 81F Walked 4.3 miles in this " Mortal Sickness Yard" Vacated at 3:46PM Got home at 5:15PM and drove 220 miles for the day. $3.50 in tolls and $10.00 gas. Another great day with the dead. BestBill   Help keep our dead alive, remember them. _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: https://sites.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/quebec-research@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    09/02/2019 06:23:24
    1. [Q-R] Cemetery Report : Aug 15, 2019 "No Horses Allowed"
    2. William Fleming
    3. How about, out of the garage this time, at 6:41AM @ 63F, almost my Temp. range. On the way to the first cemetery is a herd of turkeys, these are the kind in the fields and along the roads, not like the ones who try to drive cars and are also on the roads and sometimes in the fields.................I counted 7. So, if I saw and heard a herd of turkeys, could it be they were really heard-herd turkeys??????????, if they were gobbling that is.................LOL Oh well................. Many cemeteries in Madison County listed on the maps weren't there. I check within a 1/2 mile radius of where its supposed to be. Check the woods etc, either totally grown over or have been moved.Oh, I got it, body snatchers are responsible......................well, those cemeteries got crossed off the map anyway. 8:02AM brings me to North Brookfield, New York cemetery on Roue 12.(ahhhhh north or south depending on how the car us sitting and where I'm looking.................   :) )  @ 62F. Rocelia D. Collins                 1839-1919. Denison Fisk                    1807-1893. Statira Mason                  1824-1917. This cemetery has lots of damage and don't believe its vandalism, just old and not taken care of especially the older internment's., its also on some very bad real estate and some what dangerous. I was in some precarious positions and overhangs that I wasn't crazy about. Legrand Birdsall                 1878-1934. (< he had Robbins, 3 for $1) Mate Nash                      Died Sept 14, 1884 age 25 years. (< isn't that an Australian name?) Denslow H. Talcott                    Died Oct 2, 1876 age 29 years and 22 days. Vernell Talcott                Died Sept 2, 1856 ivanore Morgan Clayton                    Died Feb 8, 1907 age 33 years. Morell W. Snow(               < don't I wish) 1862-1881. Delos A. Worden                   Died May 4, 1877 age 65 years. Varnum G. Green                        Died Jan 9, 1852. Lavantia O. Parks                   Died May 24, 1892 age 54 years. Lonelle L. Kenyon                   1879-1968. Isora A. Newton                      1843-1921. As in France, New France relied on all sorts of bad luck blamed on witch craft. New France witches flew by night for satanic ceremonies that mocked Christian rituals. Mere Catherine de Saint Augustin ,had an invisible force reveal to her that the demons meet in the monastery's chapel and steal consecrated hosts. She(Catherine-Nun) in 1667 when a deceased Jesuit missionary, Jean de Brebeuf appeared to her in ecstasy and informed her that she must see to the salvation of a Quebec sorcerer. So they believed in witches more then thought. Ingham H. Birdsall                    1866-1908. Satira R. Orcutt              1893-1913. Ona Loomis Isaacs               1871-1940. Arvello Kling                    1865-1937.( <Kling reminds me of Saran wrap) Raldo Kling                   1858-1912. Vestella S. Kling                1866-1944. Isma A. Hardy                  1877-1973. Tacy A. Moore                      1847-1922. This cemetery was established 1810. Picked up 6 flags. Walked .7 mile in this  " Permanent Accommodations Park " Vacated at 9:09AM @ 64F. 9:50AM brings me to Hubbardsville, Cemetery @ 67F on Wickwire Road. Roman Cursh                   1888-1966. Louis E. Ditch             1912-1962 (P) Fenton York                  1928-1992. Suetta York                1930- _ _ _ _ . Sally Excell                 1929-1973. I am way out in the country and there is absolutely no noise...................  :)   Dead quiet. Oral J. House                 Pvt. US Army  WW 1 Born Sept 24,1899 and died Nov 9, 1973. Two deer just popped out of the corn field.  Staring at me. I really expected old time baseball players to come out of the corn, but, I get deer. Oris R. House                 1928-2007. Jessica Suzanne Drown              Born Feb 10, 1979 died Feb 23, 1979. Delivernce Hatch Green               1769-1862. Another deer just came out of the corn, the tail is really wagging fast. John D. Mortis                        1911-1952.  ( <Bet he has Rigor Mortis by now) Alettie F. Seabury                   1868-1943. Earl Orne                     1895-1919 Died in France  WW 1. DeForest Elphick                       1855-1945. Sereno Willey                      1844-1911. Zebulon York                        1817-1894. Devereau W. Usher                  1831-1901. Emer Hunt Colson                  1834-1861. Galphurnia Dunbar                       Died Dec 12, 1875 age 62 years and 7 months. Dillazon M. Chesebro                         1814-1893. Altana C. Beach                       Died Oct 7, 1860 age 30 years 4 months and 19 days( <sorry folks, there was no son of a Beach  buried here) Volkert Palmer                        Died Jan 26, 1879, 74 years 9 months and 10 days. 1737 Francois Roy accused Charles Raymond-Passe-Montagne of being a sorcerer at Montreal. He was accused of taking off into the clouds.(< I didnt know they could do that back then :)Another account, in 1671 Nicole Rolland declared to the Quebec Tribunal that Perrine Morel's grandfather had put grease in a pot and that the servant of the grandfather had greased a wagon with it and the wagon remained invisible. But, Perrine herself was accused of bewitching a herd of animals. Witchcraft was often seen as hereditary.(< anyone related to these people??????)  LOL DeEtte Palmer                    1846-1885. DeLuney Stebbins                  Born April 9, 1808 and died Feb 16, 1897. Columbus Rhoades                    Born Dec 21, 1824 and died March 5, 1911. Branzolette Rhoades                    Born March 28, 1830 and died May 5, 1866. Nahum Phoades                       Died Feb 19, 1815 age 30 years. Zipha Murdock                     Died April 20, 1849 age 49 years 8 months and 27 days. Abigail Sturtevant                         Died Sept 3, 1873 at Benton Harbor, Michigan age 65 years. Azubah Fuller Murphy                   1831-1910. Ellen Underdown                      1835-1908 (< could she be an Australian ?) Celinda C. Sawdey                   Died Aug 8, 1901 age 87. Reuben Green                         Born May 19, 1795 and died March 12, 1893.(< I could go for a reuben right about now) DeAlton Clarke                    1853-1937. Zayda M. York                        1882-1968. More deer just popped out of the cornfield.............. Vyron L. Lake                  1901-1955. Norva C. Risley                   1877-19_ _ . Cleora R. Gilbert                   1848-1931. Safford R. Clark                      Died March 4, 1876 age 54 years. Celora L. Downing                 Died Sept 29, 1859 age 22 years 1 month and 14 days. Sparrow Fuller                   Died Dec 6, 1848 age 49 years (< give him a tweet for sure) Enock Smith                       Born June 20, 1810 and died May 25, 1896. During the American Revolution, active soldiers would talk the cemetery sextons into letting them dig up former soldiers/and or enter a crypt of a former soldier to cut off pieces of the soldiers collar and wristband, which was divided among active soldiers as talismans to help them in upcoming battles. Eliphalet Murdock                   Died Jan 8, 1852 age 76 years. This cemetery is near excellent with care. Dealton Taylor                   Born May 2, 1852 and died May 11, 1932. Lavanchia J. Palmer                     Died March 16, 1861 age 16 years 10 months and 3 days. Roxa Fuller                  1796-1821. Merville H. Parlin                (no dates) Elliott A. Franklin                      Died Jan 27, 1865 at Salisbury, North Carolina, Civil War age 25 years. Hackliah Armstrong                          Died Aug 15, 1849 age 58 years. Hmmmmmm  The Brady(Bunch) family is buried here, but no Marsha........... Mahala E. Taylor                          Died Oct 28, 1888 age 62 years 4 months and 12 days. Now I came upon a sign that this cemetery does not allow horses. hmmmmmmmm Zula A. Sprague                     1875-1947 (< Sue alert) Well I now see a horse, maybe he is the guilty party the sign was meant for. His fence borders the cemetery and as I'm all done here, I'll see if I can make a friend. Did you know horses like milk bone dog biscuits? He sure liked the one I just gave him. Petted his head and he licked my hand........................... Picked up 7 flags Walked 2.8 miles in this " Termination Station". Vacated at 11:59AM @ 75F. 1:34PM brings me to Waterville, N.Y. @ 76F, Waterville Cemetery. It took me that long to find the next cemetery. This trip many cemeteries marked on the map are no longer there. Moved or long totally overgrown that I cant find. And I check woods and use binoculars. ( And I even talk to living people about them occasionally)   :) Charlemagne Tower               Born April 18, 1809 and died July 24, 1889. Elizabeth Goodwin                 Born Wales 1784 and died 1884. Julia A. Gaskill                 1838-1914. (<Hope she gets relieved) Backus A. Beardsley               Born Dec 3, 1816 and died Dec 19, 1896. David R. Morris                    Born Montgomeryshire, North Wales May 15, 1824 and died July 12, 1889. Fanny Angell Tooley                   1842-1914. Fimbria Tooley                 Died Sept 8, 1855 age 51 years. Lebbeus Geer                Born 1757 and died 1846, Veteran of the Revolutionary War. Platt Camp                   Died Jan 11, 1876 age 60 years 1 month and 20 days. Owen Lewis                  Born Towen(< as spelled on the stone) Meironethshire, North Wales Died July 7, 1856 age 38 years 11 months. Eri Terry Wells                1838-1904. Asralena Dann                 Born Jan 1, 1823 and died Jan 23, 1900. Fitch Hewett                1812-1887. Shubel Hubbard             Born Jan 7, 1802 and died Sept 16, 1886. Charles A. Seymour             Born May 22, 1827 and died Feb 28, 1861 (< Jim alert)   wifeSarah A. Devoe                   Born Dec 8, 1832 and died Jan 1, 1909. Devello i. Terry                   1858-1938. Emerancy A. Melvin                  1844-1919. Gay R. Sanford                     Born Dec 28, 1839 and died June 30, 1901. Elbridge A. Bachelder 1               840-1916. Ashbel S. Pierce                  1812-1891. Boltous Bookhout                    Born Oct 7, 1836. Pollecsa Eaton               1846-1902 Sareptce Benedict                 Born June 5, 1813 and died March 19, 1892. Eroly J. Norton                   1834-_ _ _ _ .            Julia A. Vibbard                    1820-1907. John Stapler                   Died June 11, 1882 age 78 years and 3 months.(P) Anna Hodges Wilson                  Born Aug 20, 1855 Stoughton, Massachusetts and died Oct 12, 1912. Aaron Stafford                     Born Lanesborough, Massachusetts March 18, 1787 and died Sept 6, 1885   wifeHarriet Terry                       Born Ennfield, Connecticut Dec 8, 1794 and died April 5, 1875. Herman T. Greenslit                  Born Aug 27, 1821 and died June 14, 1862. Sergt. Andrew T. Rowell,                   killed in battle at Richmond, Virginia, Civil War Oct 27, 1864 age 22 years 6 months and 14 days. Enoch Tefft                    Died Aug 8, 1867 age 79 years. Lurinda F. Avery                    Died March 28, 1860 age 58 years. Simeon Walker,                 War of 1812 Vet. Born 1776 and died 1847. William Osborn                   Born Trumbull, Connecticut Died June 15, 1858 age 73 years 7 months and 13 days. Amos Osborn                   Born Fairfield, Connecticut Nov 30, 1764 and died July 3, 1848 age 83 years 7 months and 3 days. Julius Candee                Born Oxford, Connecticut Feb 19, 1800 and died July 2, 1880. Sarah A. Duty                 Born Ashtabula, Ohio Nov 29, 1810 and died March 15, 1860. Now I'm getting dizzy, feet are hard to pick up......................damn heat. Ormieliah A. Gregory                     Born Dec 17, 1857 and died Sept 7, 1864. Nauseated feeling.................. Done, and my first two tries, I couldn't pick up my feet enough to get them in the car. Third time I got in. Air conditioner on Hi and out of the sun, with a ice cold bottle of water, feeling much better within seconds and about 2 minutes later, feel perfectly fine. Picked up 4 flags @ 81F Walked 4.3 miles in this " Mortal Sickness Yard" Vacated at 3:46PM Got home at 5:15PM and drove 220 miles for the day. $3.50 in tolls and $10.00 gas. Another great day with the dead. BestBill   Help keep our dead alive, remember them.

    09/02/2019 02:07:30
    1. [Q-R] Robert 4
    2. William Fleming
    3. Hi Lois Robert 4 also married Judith de Baviera-------------------------------------------------------------Robert 4 also married Beatrice A Capet-Arles+--------------------------------------------------------------BestBill

    09/02/2019 01:29:50
    1. [Q-R] Robert 4 The Strong
    2. William Fleming
    3. Hi Lois Robert 4 The Strong, Margrave of Neustria married Adelaide of ToursBorn Worms, Austrasia, Frankish EmpireDied July 2, 866 Brissarthe, Anjou, Neustrie, Frankish EmpireCut down in battle of Brissarthe, a battle fought against Danes invading NeustriaBuried Tours, Anjou, Neustria, Frankish EmpireAdelaide Born 819 Tours, Indre-et-Loire, Centre-Val de Loire, FranceDied 882 Tours                   "       "     "         "          "    "    "        "Parents were Hugh The Timid, count of Tours married Ava de Tours, Countess of Lower Alsace+-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------BestBill

    09/02/2019 01:27:45
    1. [Q-R] Pepin 2 Lord of Peronne
    2. William Fleming
    3. Hi Lois Pepin 2 Lord of Peronne married______________du VexinBorn 817 Vermandois, Picard, FranceDied 848 Milan, Milano, Lombardia, ItalyBuried Milan, Lombardy, ItalyParents were Bernard ,King of Lombardy married Cuningundis______________ parents were Theodoric 8 de Vexin married______________________+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------BestBill

    09/02/2019 01:21:25
    1. [Q-R] Lemay/Ranger
    2. William Fleming
    3. Hi Joan Emelie Lemay married Andre Ranger Aug 21, 1877 Notre Dame des-Sept Douleurs, GrenvilleBorn April 1859Died 1948Parents were Auguste Lemay and ___________________Andre Born Oct 30, 1855Died 1920Parents were Michel Ranger and Clemence EmeryB.D.   +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------BestBill  I'm pretty sure this family was related to The Lone Ranger  :)  And Tonto was not blood related!

    09/02/2019 10:51:21
    1. [Q-R] Re: Hogue/Theodore
    2. Jackie Corrigan
    3. That was Pierre's 2nd marriage. I wrote about him at https://hoguegirardin.wordpress.com/2014/04/30/not-really-hogues/ Jackie -----Original Message----- From: William Fleming via Quebec-Research Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 11:26 AM To: quebec-research@rootsweb.com Cc: William Fleming Subject: [Q-R] Re: Hogue/Theodore In a message dated 9/1/2019 12:23:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, wflem72706@aol.com writes: In a message dated 9/1/2019 12:19:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, wflem72706@aol.com writes: Hi Kathy Pierre Hogue married Jeanne Theodore Nov 10, 1676 MontrealBorn 1648 Notre Dame de Bellefontaine, commune de Vincly, Montreuil-sur-Mer, Amiens, FranceDied Dec 25, 1725 Riviere des PrairiesParents were Jean Hogue and Nicole DubusJeanne Born Aug 8, 1663 MontrealDied June 9, 1730 Riviere des PrairiesParents were Michel Theodore and Jacqueline LagrangeJ. +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------BestBill _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: https://sites.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/quebec-research@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    09/02/2019 08:30:24
    1. [Q-R] HAPPY September 2
    2. William Fleming
    3. Labor Day/Labour Day ----------------------------------------Pierce Your Ears Day-----------------------------------------Victory Over Japan Day------------------------------------World Coconut Day ( I'll eat to that)------------------------------------------- 1752 U.K. adopts the Gregorian Calendar ----------------------------------------------------------- 1666 – The Great Fire of London breaks out and burns for three days, destroying 10,000 buildings, including Old St Paul's Cathedral. -------------------------------------------------------Mayflower sets sail from Plymouth with 102 Pilgrims 1620----------------------------------------------------------------------1792 – During what became known as the September Massacres of the French Revolution, rampaging mobs slaughter three Roman Catholic bishops, more than two hundred priests, and prisoners believed to be royalist sympathizers.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1885 – Rock Springs massacre: In Rock Springs, Wyoming, 150 white miners, who are struggling to unionize so they could strike for better wages and work conditions, attack their Chinese fellow workers killing 28, wounding 15 and forcing several hundred more out of town.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1862 – American Civil War: United States President Abraham Lincoln reluctantly restores Union General George B. McClellan to full command after General John Pope's disastrous defeat at the Second Battle of Bull Run.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1864 – American Civil War: Union forces enter Atlanta, a day after the Confederate defenders flee the city, ending the Atlanta Campaign.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    09/02/2019 06:53:47
    1. [Q-R] Re: du Quesnel
    2. William Fleming
    3. In a message dated 9/1/2019 5:39:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, wflem72706@aol.com writes: Hi Sue Robert du Quesnel married Julie de FouquescourtBorn 1002 Le Quesnel, Somme, Picardy, FranceDied 1049Parents were Gauthier du Quesnel married______________________Julie Born 1018 Fouquescourt, Somme, Picardy, France+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------BestBill

    09/01/2019 03:45:29
    1. [Q-R] de Roye
    2. William Fleming
    3. Hi Sue Wallerand de Roye married Aelise de BovesParents were Auguste de Roye and Jossine de Noyon+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------BestBill

    09/01/2019 03:03:51
    1. [Q-R] de Beaumont
    2. William Fleming
    3. Hi Sue Robert de Beaumont 3rd Earl of Leicester married Petronille de GrandmesnilBorn 1120 Leicester, Leicestershire, EnglandDied Aug 31, 1190 Durazzo Provence, Greece..........died in Greece on his return journey from a pilgrimage to Palestine.Parents were Sir Robert de Beaumont, Knight , Earl of Leicester, Justiciar of England married Amice de Gael, Heiress of Breteuil, Countess of LeicesterPetronille Born 1135 Leicester, Leicestershire, EnglandDied April 1, 1212         "                   "                 "Parents were Guillaume de Grandmesnil, Heir of the honour of Grandmesnil married Alice de Stuteville+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------BestBill

    09/01/2019 02:25:03
    1. [Q-R] Simon 3 le Chauve
    2. William Fleming
    3. Hi Sue Simon 3 le Chauve de Montfort, comte d'Avreux married Mathilde, comtesse d'EvreauBorn 1128 Montfort-sur-Risle, haute-Normandie, FranceDied March 13, 1181 Cathedral, Evreux, Normandy, FranceBuried Evreux, Upper Normandy, FranceParents were Amauri 3 de Montfort, comte d'Evreux married Agnes countess de Dreux, comtesse de RochfortMathilde Born 1120 Montfort sur Lisle, Eure, Normandie, FranceDied 1169 Leicester, Leicestershire, EnglandParents were Simon 3 le Chauve de Montfort, comte d'Evreux married Maud de Montfort+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------BestBill

    09/01/2019 01:50:53
    1. [Q-R] Re: Chartrand/Hunault-Deschamps
    2. Contrat de mariage entre Thomas Chartrand et Thecle Hunault 1669-01-06 Notaire: Benigne BassetPardevant Benigne [Basset notaire] et Tabellion, de laterreetseigneurie [de l'Ile de] Montreal en la Nouvelle France[etlestemoins] soubzsignes furent presents [Thomas Chartran] demeurantencelieu fils de [Louis Chartran] et de deffunte Aniese Quevalduvillage[de Ectot] sur les bans, en Normandiee proche de [Rouen,sespere et]mere, d'une part et Tecle [Hunaut fille de] ToussaintHunauthabitantde [la coste St Francois en la ditte Ile de Montrealetde]MarieLorgueil, ses pere [et mere] d'autre.  Lesquelles partyes[enlapresence et] du consentement de leurs parens et amis pourceassemblesde part et d'autre.  Scavoir, de la part duditThomasChartran,maistre Gilbert Barbier, charpentier et habitantduditMontreal, RenePerreux, et Abraham Bin[et], demeurant aussiauditMontreal, et de lapart de la dite Tecle Hunault, desditsToussaintHunaut et MarieLorgueil ses pere et mere, maistre CharlesLemoynesieur de Longueuildudit Montreal, les sieurs Robert PerroysetMathurin Rouillier,habitants de la coste Saint Francois en laditteisle reconnurent,confesserent, avoir fait et accord[e] lestraitte etpromesses demariage qui ensuivent c['est] a scavoir leditThomasChartran avoirpromis prendre laditte Tecle Hunaut a sa femmeetlegitime epouse,comme aussy laditte Tecle Hunault avoir promisprendreledit ThomasChartran [mots rayes] a son mary et legitimeepoux,, et lemariagefai[t] et solemnise en face de S[ainte Mere]Eglis[eCatholique]Apostoliquee et Ro[maine], le plu[s tost] qu'ilseraadvisse etdellibere entre eux, [leurs dits] parens et amis sy Dieuetnotre mereSte [Eglise s'y consentent et accordent pour estrelesdits[futurs]espoux, uns et communss, en biens [meu]bles, acquetsetconquetsimmeubles suivant [la] coustume de Paris, [suivie et gardeeencepays; ne] seront tenus des debtes et hypothequesl'un[de]l'autrefaite et crees, avant la solemnite de leur [mariage]aussysi aucunesy a, seront payees et [acquitees] par celuy qui lesaurafaites et[sur son]bien.  Prendra ledit futur espoux laditefutureespouse, avectous ses droicts, noms, raiscons, et actions, enquelqueslieux qu'ylspuissent estre sis, scitues, et assis; sera doueela dittefutureespouse du douaire coustumier suivant la ditte coustume,et enfaveurdudit mariage, les futurs espoux se sont part cespresentesdonnation,irrevocable et entre vifs, et au survivant d'euxdeux, detous etchacuns des biens qui leur appartiennent de present,mesme deleurspropres et acquets et autre biens immeubles, que deleursconquets etde ceux qui leur escherront cy apres, soit parsuccession,donnation,ou autrement, sans aucunement en reserver enquelques sorteetmaniere que ce soit et en quelques endroicts qu ylspuissentestreassis deubs(?) et trouves, pour en jouir par le survivantcommesonpropre et en dispossser ainssy que bon luy semblera de vrayetloyala[cquet] pouveu, qu'au jour de la dissolution duditfu[tur]mariage,il ny ay aucun enfant vivant [d'eux] deux et pourfaireinsinuer cespresentes [la] ou il appartiendra dhuy en quatremo[isselon]l'ordonnance font et constituent leur procureur [le]porteurdespresentes, auquel ils don[nnent le pouvoir] de ce faireetd'enrequerir acte, et apres que ledit Toussaint Hunault p[ere deladitte]future epouse, a promis, et s'est o[bligé] a ratiffier, etavoirlecontenu [au nom de] laditte Marie Lorgueil safemme,[faisant]requisition et demande dudit futur espoux [ThomasChartran]promettanet obligean et renon[cant].  Faict et passe auditMontreal enl'estudedudit notaire l'an mil six cent soixante et neuf[le] sixiemejour dejanvier avant midy en [presence] des sieurs JeanGervaise etFrançois[?] temoins y demeurant et soussignes avec les[susnommes]Barbier,Lemoyne, Perroy, Rouillier, et Binet, et nonlesdits futursespoux, etleurs autres pare[ns], amis susnommes pour nesçavoir de cefairesuivant l'ordonnance:  C Lemoyne, Gilbert Barbier,Perroys,[paraphe]M Rouillé, Abraham Binet, Basset [paraphe].Marriage contract between Thomas Chartrand and Thecle Hunaut 1669-01-06 Notary: Benigne BassetIn the presence of Benigne Basset notary and clerk, of thelandandseignory of the Isle of  Montreal in New France andofwitnessesundersigned, were present Thomas Chartrand, resident inthisplace,son of Louis Charland and of Agnes Queval of the villageofEctot-lesBaons, in Normandy, near Rouen, his father and mother, ontheonepart; and off Tecle, daughter off Toussaint Hunaut, residentoftheCote Saint Francois on the said Isle of Montreal  andofMarieLorgueil, her father and mother, of the other part.Theseparties, inthe presence of, and having received the consent oftheirfamily andfriends assembled for this purpose on behalf ofbothparties.  Namely,on behalf of the said Thomas Chartrand,MasterGilbert Barbier,carpenter and resident of the said Montreal,RenePerroux, and AbrahamBinet, also resident in the said Montreal; andonbehalf of the saidThecle Hunaut, the said Toussaint Hunaut andMarieLorgeuil her fatherand mother, Mr Charles Lemoyne, Sieur ofLongueuilin the saidMontreal, Mssrs Robert Perroys et MathurinRoullier,residents of theCote Saint Francois, recognized and admittedhavingmade and agreedto the contract and promises of marriage, that istosay, the saidThomas Chartrand has promised to take the saidThecleHunaut as hiswife and lawful spouse, as also the said ThecleHunauthas promised totake the said Thomas Chartrand [words crossedout] asher husband andlawful spouse, and that the marriage will beperformedand solemnisedbefore our Holy Mother the Catholic, Apostolic,andRoman Church, assoon as it can be arranged, as advised andconsentedto by theparties, their family and friends, if God and ourHoly MothertheChurch consent to it, and the said future spousesconsent and agreetohold in common as one the goods, furnishings, realpropertyacquiredor cleared according to the custom of Paris which isfollowedin thiscountry; neither party shall be held liable for thedebtsandmortgages made and entered by the other before thesolemnisationoftheir marriage, and if any such are discovered, theyshally bepaidand indemnified by the party who incurred them, and uponthatparty'sassets.  The future groom shall take the future bride withallherrights, deeds, reasons and actions, whereever they mightbefound,situated, or located; the future bride shall be endowedwiththecustomary dowry according to the aforesaid custom, and infavourofthe said marriage, the future spouses have, by thesepresents,madedonation each to the other, as an irrevocable bequestbetweenlivingparties, and to the survivor of the two of them, of eachand allthereal properties that belong to them,  and of those theymightacquireby clearance, by succession, by donation, orotherwise,withoutreservation of any of them in any manner whatsoever,andwhereeverthey might be found or located, to be enjoyed by, and tobedisposedof, by the survivor,  in any manner proper to the ownerofpropertieslegitimately and honestly acquired, so long as, on thedaythat thesaid future marriage is dissolved, there be no livingchildborn tothe two of them. In order that these presents might bedulyrecordedbetween this day and four months hence, as required bylaw,theparties appoint as their procurator the bearer, to whom theygivetheright to record this act and to obtain a record of it; andafterthesaid Toussaint Hunaut, father of the future bride, haspromisedandcommitted himself to ratify this act, and its content, inthe nameofthe said Marie Longueil (!) his wife, having maderequistionanddemand of the future groom, the said Thomas Chartrand,promisingandobliging and renouncing, etc.  Done and passed in thesaidMontreal,at the study of the said notary, in the year one thousandsixhundredand sixty nine, this sixth day of January, before noon,inthepresence of Mssrs Jean Gervaise, and Francois (?)witnessesresidingthere, and undersigned, togegher with theaforementionedBarbier,Lemoine, Perroy, Rouiller, and Binet, but notthe said futurespousesand their other family and friendsaforementioned, who were notableto do so, as required by law:C Lemoyne, Gilbert Barbier, Perroys, [flourish], M.Rouille,AbrahamBinet, [flourish], Basset [flourish]========================== Hi Kathy Thomas Chartrand also married Thecle Hunault-Deschamps Jan 29, 1669 MontrealBorn Sept 23, 1655 MontrealDied March 12, 1674 MontrealParents were Toussaint Hunault and Marie LorgueilJ.     +---BestBill

    09/01/2019 11:54:07
    1. [Q-R] Hrolf Nose Nefja Jarl
    2. William Fleming
    3. Hi Lois Hrolf Nose nefja Jarl of Trondheim married__________________________Born 768 Nord-Trondelag, NorwayDied 807 NorwayBuried         "+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------BestBill

    09/01/2019 11:28:37
    1. [Q-R] Eystein Ivarsson
    2. William Fleming
    3. Hi Lois Eystein Ivarsson The Noisy Glumra married___________________Born 810 Oppland, NorwayDied 870 Ringerike, Buskerud, NorwayBuried NorwayParents were Ivar Halfdansson, Opplendingejarl married_____________________________+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------BestBill

    09/01/2019 10:31:51
    1. [Q-R] Re: Lemay-Delorme/Daigneau
    2. William Fleming
    3. In a message dated 9/1/2019 12:24:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, wflem72706@aol.com writes: Hi Joan Pierre Lemay-Delorme also married Marguerite Daigneau Nov 27, 1809 ChateauguayMarguerite Born Jan 12, 1791 St PhilippeDied April 1, 1811 ChateauguayParents were Antoine Daigneau and Marguerite LegaultB.D.   +-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------BestBill

    09/01/2019 10:27:01
    1. [Q-R] Re: Hogue/Theodore
    2. William Fleming
    3. In a message dated 9/1/2019 12:23:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, wflem72706@aol.com writes: In a message dated 9/1/2019 12:19:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, wflem72706@aol.com writes: Hi Kathy Pierre Hogue married Jeanne Theodore Nov 10, 1676 MontrealBorn 1648 Notre Dame de Bellefontaine, commune de Vincly, Montreuil-sur-Mer, Amiens, FranceDied Dec 25, 1725 Riviere des PrairiesParents were Jean Hogue and Nicole DubusJeanne Born Aug 8, 1663 MontrealDied June 9, 1730 Riviere des PrairiesParents were Michel Theodore and Jacqueline LagrangeJ.    +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------BestBill

    09/01/2019 10:26:16
    1. [Q-R] Lemay-Delorme/Daigneau
    2. William Fleming
    3. Hi Joan Pierre Lemay-Delorme also married Marguerite Daigneau Nov 27, 1809 ChateauguayMarguerite Born Jan 12, 1791 St PhilippeDied April 1, 1811 ChateauguayParents were Antoine Daigneau and Marguerite LegaultB.D.   +-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------BestBill

    09/01/2019 10:24:10
    1. [Q-R] Re: Hogue/Theodore
    2. William Fleming
    3. In a message dated 9/1/2019 12:19:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, wflem72706@aol.com writes: Hi Kathy Pierre Hogue married Jeanne Theodore Nov 10, 1676 MontrealBorn 1648 Notre Dame de Bellefontaine, commune de Vincly, Montreuil-sur-Mer, Amiens, FranceDied Dec 25, 1725 Riviere des PrairiesParents were Jean Hogue and Nicole DubusJeanne Born Aug 8, 1663 MontrealDied June 9, 1730 Riviere des PrairiesParents were Michel Theodore and Jacqueline LagrangeJ.    +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------BestBill

    09/01/2019 10:23:44