Thanks to the wonders of WorldCat, helpful reference librarians, and the magic of ILL, I was able to get a photocopy of the article “Fame Passed Them By” by C. Goodridge MacDonald, published in the Canadian National Magazine, June 1935. It is about the Battle of Rivière des Prairies (Coulée Grou). Unfortunately the only mention of Antoine is the snippet that Google Books had already provided. However it is an interesting article and the author quotes the book Faits Curieux de l’Histoire de Montreal by E.Z. Massicotte, at one time the archivist of Montreal, as a source. That book is available online in several places including Nos Racines/Our Roots. Should anyone who has Antoine in their ancestry wish a scan of the article, please email me. Jackie

In a message dated 4/14/2014 3:34:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, veeren@videotron.ca writes: Easy as pie. The contract was drawn up by notary Audouart. If you subscribe to QenealogieQuebec, you can view the original in the Drouin notaries database, Audouart dit Saint-Germain, Guillaume (1657-1658), images d1p_1659B0691.jpg and d1p_1659B0692.jpg as well as a handy transcription at image d1p_1659B0693.jpg Mona I tried to google for QenealogieQuebec and google threw their hands up and said "I have no idea". Do you have an actual URL? I can get to genealogiequebec which I look at all the time but have no idea where to find what you are talking about. Peggy Large UE I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead Thanks to Jimmy Buffett!

Hello Patricia, Easy as pie. The contract was drawn up by notary Audouart. If you subscribe to QenealogieQuebec, you can view the original in the Drouin notaries database, Audouart dit Saint-Germain, Guillaume (1657-1658), images d1p_1659B0691.jpg and d1p_1659B0692.jpg as well as a handy transcription at image d1p_1659B0693.jpg The telling lines are the last two. Cheers, Mona On 14-04-14 3:19 PM, Patricia LeBeau wrote: > Well, THAT was a wild ride for a couple of days! And I did get my > question answered, believe it or not. Fichier Origine is straightened > out, I know that Jeanne and Marin may be siblings according to the > marriage contract between her daughter Marie and Thomas Hayot/Hayet or > Ayotte, and all is well. I would love to find that contract, and will > be looking around for days to come. > > Thank you every one! > > Patricia LeBeau > >> Message: 6 >> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 11:03:07 -0400 >> From: Mona Andr?e Rainville<veeren@videotron.ca> >> Subject: Re: [Q-R] RE : Jeanne Boucher 1601-1670 >> To: Desjardins Bertrand<bertrand.desjardins@umontreal.ca>, >> "quebec-research@rootsweb.com" <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID:<534BF8AB.4000805@videotron.ca> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >> >> Good morning Bertrand, >> >> The link between Jeanne BOUCHER (wife of Thomas HAYET) and Marin BOUCHER >> is established in the marriage contract of Marie BOUCHER daughter of >> Marin, to Charles GODIN, on October 1, 1656, wherein Thomas HAYET and >> Jeanne BOUCHER are described as "oncle et tante de l'?pouse", oncle and >> aunt of the bride. Furthermore, a Jeanne BOUCHER is godmother to Jean >> BOUCHER, son of Marin and Julienne BARIL, in Saint-Langis, on March 15, >> 1613. >> >> Most of what is known of this family was published in an article of the >> M?moires (MSGCF), in 1957. >> >> If you take a look at the FO today, you'll see that yesterday's optimism >> was short lived. The parents of Marin Boucher remain unknown. >> >> The research in France is on-going as we speak but cannot progress >> beyond the available records. As often happens, I think it likely the >> answer we seek lurks somewhere in our own archives, possibly in >> Trois-Rivi?res, just waiting for the right person to turn the right page >> and connect the dots. ;o)) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Mona > >

Well, THAT was a wild ride for a couple of days! And I did get my question answered, believe it or not. Fichier Origine is straightened out, I know that Jeanne and Marin may be siblings according to the marriage contract between her daughter Marie and Thomas Hayot/Hayet or Ayotte, and all is well. I would love to find that contract, and will be looking around for days to come. Thank you every one! Patricia LeBeau > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 11:03:07 -0400 > From: Mona Andr?e Rainville<veeren@videotron.ca> > Subject: Re: [Q-R] RE : Jeanne Boucher 1601-1670 > To: Desjardins Bertrand<bertrand.desjardins@umontreal.ca>, > "quebec-research@rootsweb.com" <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID:<534BF8AB.4000805@videotron.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Good morning Bertrand, > > The link between Jeanne BOUCHER (wife of Thomas HAYET) and Marin BOUCHER > is established in the marriage contract of Marie BOUCHER daughter of > Marin, to Charles GODIN, on October 1, 1656, wherein Thomas HAYET and > Jeanne BOUCHER are described as "oncle et tante de l'?pouse", oncle and > aunt of the bride. Furthermore, a Jeanne BOUCHER is godmother to Jean > BOUCHER, son of Marin and Julienne BARIL, in Saint-Langis, on March 15, > 1613. > > Most of what is known of this family was published in an article of the > M?moires (MSGCF), in 1957. > > If you take a look at the FO today, you'll see that yesterday's optimism > was short lived. The parents of Marin Boucher remain unknown. > > The research in France is on-going as we speak but cannot progress > beyond the available records. As often happens, I think it likely the > answer we seek lurks somewhere in our own archives, possibly in > Trois-Rivi?res, just waiting for the right person to turn the right page > and connect the dots. ;o)) > > Cheers, > > Mona

Hi, Following Mona's most correct appraisal of the situation, I have conferred with Marcel Fournier, coordinator of The Fichier Origine. As some of you might know, I am the scientific adviser to the Fichier Origine. Also, the PRDH benefits from the Fichier as it betters its information, so we weant to be coherent in the information we offer. It is very tempting to add more info found in France but our enthusiasm has to be tempered with a very necessary prudence. Most will recognize that the quality of our work and our attention to new information makes the PRDH the reference for the genealogy of Quebec French-Canadian genealogy of the XVIIth and XVIIIth centuries. So before sending out on the internet the names of the parents of Marin Boucher, even with a caveat (that no one will take into account), we have to be especially careful. The identification of the Jeanne baptized in 1601 as the Jeanne who married Thomas Hayot is just a hypothesis because Jeanne's parents are not named in her marriage act. There are many Boucher families in Mortagne and the surrounding areas; the date of the baptism is five years off her age at marriage (aged 22 in the 1629 marriage). So if you go back to the Fichier Origine, you will find that the name of the parents have been removed from Jeanne's and Marin's files, and the date of ! the baptism of Jeanne also. Remains a note in jeanne's file about the existence of that baptism. Thank you Mona for your interventions... Bertrand Desjardins PRDH -----Message d'origine----- De : quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] De la part de Patricia LeBeau Envoyé : 13 avril 2014 18:05 À : quebec-research@rootsweb.com Objet : [Q-R] Jeanne Boucher 1601-1670 Thank you M. Desjardins! and everyone who responded. I just checked the update of Fichier Origine and there it is - > BOUCHER, Marin 240491 > Statut Marié > Date de naissance Vers 1587 > Lieu d'origine Mortagne-au-Perche (Orne) 61293 > Parents Pierre BOUCHER et Roberte Parent > Première mention au pays 1634 > Occupation à l'arrivée Migrant arrivé avec sa famille > Date de mariage 07-02-1611 > Lieu du mariage Mortagne-au-Perche (St-Jean) > Conjoint Julienne Baril > Décès ou inhumation Château-Richer, 25-03-1671 > Remarques Six enfants sont baptisés à St-Langis-lès-Mortagne : > Jean, le 15-03-1613 ; Louise, le 15-08-1615 ; François, le 22-11-1617 > ; Étiennette, le 11-05-1620 ; Charlotte, le 15-01-1622 et Marie, le > 08-06-1625. Une autre fille est baptisée à Mortagne (St-Jean) : > Nicole, le 08-11-1611. Sa femme Julienne Baril est inhumée à > St-Langis-lès-Mortagne, le 16-12-1627. Marin Boucher épouse en > secondes noces Perrrine Mallet dans la même paroisse, où deux enfants > sont baptisés : Marin, le 29-08-1630 et Galleran, le 16-02-1633. Un > fille, Marie est baptisée à Québec le 11-04-1644. > Identification DGFQ, p.135 > Chercheur(s) Archange Godbout > Référence OFC, p. 166-168 > Date de modification 2014-04-13 > ----------------------- I am so chuffed, I may explode! Patricia ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Patricia: I just visited the Fichier Origine and Marin's parents are not there! Which URL did you use to access the Fichier? Bertrand Desjardins PRDH -----Message d'origine----- De : quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] De la part de Patricia LeBeau Envoyé : 13 avril 2014 18:05 À : quebec-research@rootsweb.com Objet : [Q-R] Jeanne Boucher 1601-1670 Thank you M. Desjardins! and everyone who responded. I just checked the update of Fichier Origine and there it is - > BOUCHER, Marin 240491 > Statut Marié > Date de naissance Vers 1587 > Lieu d'origine Mortagne-au-Perche (Orne) 61293 > Parents Pierre BOUCHER et Roberte Parent > Première mention au pays 1634 > Occupation à l'arrivée Migrant arrivé avec sa famille > Date de mariage 07-02-1611 > Lieu du mariage Mortagne-au-Perche (St-Jean) > Conjoint Julienne Baril > Décès ou inhumation Château-Richer, 25-03-1671 > Remarques Six enfants sont baptisés à St-Langis-lès-Mortagne : > Jean, le 15-03-1613 ; Louise, le 15-08-1615 ; François, le 22-11-1617 > ; Étiennette, le 11-05-1620 ; Charlotte, le 15-01-1622 et Marie, le > 08-06-1625. Une autre fille est baptisée à Mortagne (St-Jean) : > Nicole, le 08-11-1611. Sa femme Julienne Baril est inhumée à > St-Langis-lès-Mortagne, le 16-12-1627. Marin Boucher épouse en > secondes noces Perrrine Mallet dans la même paroisse, où deux enfants > sont baptisés : Marin, le 29-08-1630 et Galleran, le 16-02-1633. Un > fille, Marie est baptisée à Québec le 11-04-1644. > Identification DGFQ, p.135 > Chercheur(s) Archange Godbout > Référence OFC, p. 166-168 > Date de modification 2014-04-13 > ----------------------- I am so chuffed, I may explode! Patricia ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dot that listing you found for the 1871 census has a lot of names missing ....... Paul 42 Desanges 36 Azilda 17 Ludger 15 Joseph 14 Melina13 Delima 12 Damien 11 Regina 9 Emma 7 Olivie 4 Alma 3 Eliza 10 months and more came later! so yes his wife is Desanges Racine as Fran just sent you "Emma" was born 19 Sep 1864 (not the 17th) baptized at S-Guillaume d'Upton as Marie Alma "Alma" was born 27 Sep 1868 baptized at St-Valerien as " Marie Rosalie Alma" " In a message dated 4/14/2014 1:07:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dhazvt@aol.com writes: I am trying to find out who Paul was married to. Emma and Alma who married in Rhode Island gave their mother as Frances last name unknown. I found this info on Paul in the 1871 census and am wondering if anyone has parish records for this location who might be able to identify his wife. Perhaps the children were baptized there. It appears his wife had already died. Name: Paul Provost Gender: Male Age: 42 Birth Year (Estimated): 1829 Birthplace: Q Marital Status: Married Nationality: Franciase Religion: Catholique Event Place: St-Valérien-de-Milton d, Shefford 127, Quebec Page Number: 20 Line Number: 8 House Number: 60 Family Number: 63 GS Film number: 2229035 Affiliate Film Number: C-10073 Digital Folder Number: 4395463 Image Number: 577 Household Gender Age Birthplace Paul Provost M 42 Q Mélina Provost F 13 Q Délima Provost F 12 Q Emma Provost F 7 Q Olivie Provost F 4 Q Alma Provost F 3 Q Thank you, Dot ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dot; the only Paul I can find married in that time frame in Shefford is: Paul Provost s/o Paul & Josette Morin m 31 Jan 1853 at Ste-Cecile-de-Milton, Shefford, QC Desanges Racine d/o Antoine & Desanges Huette dit Dulude There is a baptism for Marie Melina Prevost d/o above couple b 25 bp 26 September 1859 R St-Valerien, Shefford, QC Fran L On 14/04/2014 1:07 PM, dhazvt@aol.com wrote: > I am trying to find out who Paul was married to. Emma and Alma who married in Rhode Island gave their mother as Frances last name unknown. > > > I found this info on Paul in the 1871 census and am wondering if anyone has parish records for this location who might be able to identify his wife. Perhaps the children were baptized there. It appears his wife had already died. > > > > Name: Paul Provost > Gender: Male > Age: 42 > Birth Year (Estimated): 1829 > Birthplace: Q > Marital Status: Married > Nationality: Franciase > Religion: Catholique > Event Place: St-Valérien-de-Milton d, Shefford 127, Quebec > Page Number: 20 > Line Number: 8 > House Number: 60 > Family Number: 63 > GS Film number: 2229035 > Affiliate Film Number: C-10073 > Digital Folder Number: 4395463 > Image Number: 577 > Household Gender Age Birthplace > Paul Provost M 42 Q > Mélina Provost F 13 Q > Délima Provost F 12 Q > Emma Provost F 7 Q > Olivie Provost F 4 Q > Alma Provost F 3 Q > > > > Thank you, > Dot --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Of course you are right Mona: the Fichier Origine notes that the link between the 1601 baptism of a Jeanne and the 1629 Marriage of a Jeanne is not proven because the parents are not named in the marriage. However, the fact that Jeanne is the sister of Marin seems established although I don't know the source of the information. Now that the Fichier origine gives Pierre Boucher and Roberte parent as Jeanne's parents, albeit with a caveat, it extends to Marin the same parents, and no doubt this will spread and become a fact although it is not a proven fact. It would be nice if further research in France could dig up the missing proof:, given that Marin Boucher is one of the most important pioneers with a great many descendants. Bertrand Desjardins PRDH -----Message d'origine----- De : quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] De la part de Mona Andrée Rainville Envoyé : 13 avril 2014 12:35 À : quebec-research@rootsweb.com Objet : Re: [Q-R] RE : Jeanne Boucher 1601-1670 Until such time as can be proven that the Jeanne BOUCHER baptized on May 1st is the same Jeanne BOUCHER who married thomas HAYET, they remain unknown. Mona On 14-04-13 12:13 PM, linp219@aol.com wrote: > So who are the correct parents for these two people, Jeanne and Marin Boucher ?? > > Linnie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Desjardins Bertrand <bertrand.desjardins@umontreal.ca> > To: Patricia LeBeau <kola626@embarqmail.com>; quebec-research > <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, Apr 13, 2014 12:05 pm > Subject: [Q-R] RE : Jeanne Boucher 1601-1670 > > > You are right and I have written about it to Marcel Fournier, > coordinator of the Fichier Origine. > > Bertrand Desjardins > PRDH > ________________________________________ > De : quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com > [quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] > de la part de Patricia LeBeau [kola626@embarqmail.com] Envoyé : 13 > avril 2014 09:17 À : quebec-research@rootsweb.com Objet : [Q-R] > Jeanne Boucher 1601-1670 > > I know this is probably old stuff to most of the list, but I just > discovered this lady in my Jette (page 560) married to Thomas Hayot or > Ayotte 15 Jul 1629 in St-Jean, Mortagne-au-Perche, France. In his > biographical sketch of her, Jette says "sister of Marin Boucher > married to Julienne Baril." > > Since Marin is my 7th great-grandfather, I got mildly excited, even > though the entry shows her parents as ... & ..., as it does for Marin. > Many, many online trees show Marin as the brother of Gaspard Boucher, > son of Jacques and Francoise Paigne, but an equal number say No, they > are related somehow but not fraternally. > > BUT, Fichier Origine certificate #240487, updated 7 Nov 2011, gives > Jeanne's date of baptism as 1 May 1601 in St-Jean, Mortagne-au-Perche > and her parents as Pierre Boucher and Roberte Parent. In the Remarques > it says "Elle est la soeur de Marin Boucher, époux en premières noces > de Julienne Baril et en deuxième noces de Perrine Malet. Deux jumeaux : > Noël et Noëlle sont baptisés le 25-12-1604. Une autre soeur Martine > est baptisée le 07-07-1606 à l'église Saint-Jean." > > This I translate as "she is the sister of Marin Boucher, husband in a > first marriage of Julienne Baril and in a second of Perrine Malet. Two > twins, Noel and Noelle were baptized 25 Dec 1604. Another sister > Martine was baptized 7 Jul 1606 at the church of St. Jean." > > If she has parents and is the sister of Marin, why does he not have > the same parents, at least the father? in case Pierre remarried as so > many were wont to. > > This is driving me crazy, though my golfing relatives would say it > more like a short putt, so can someone please put my brain at rest? > > Thanks in advance > > Patricia LeBeau > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am trying to find out who Paul was married to. Emma and Alma who married in Rhode Island gave their mother as Frances last name unknown. I found this info on Paul in the 1871 census and am wondering if anyone has parish records for this location who might be able to identify his wife. Perhaps the children were baptized there. It appears his wife had already died. Name: Paul Provost Gender: Male Age: 42 Birth Year (Estimated): 1829 Birthplace: Q Marital Status: Married Nationality: Franciase Religion: Catholique Event Place: St-Valérien-de-Milton d, Shefford 127, Quebec Page Number: 20 Line Number: 8 House Number: 60 Family Number: 63 GS Film number: 2229035 Affiliate Film Number: C-10073 Digital Folder Number: 4395463 Image Number: 577 Household Gender Age Birthplace Paul Provost M 42 Q Mélina Provost F 13 Q Délima Provost F 12 Q Emma Provost F 7 Q Olivie Provost F 4 Q Alma Provost F 3 Q Thank you, Dot

And thank you, Bertrand, for ensuring the integrity of these invaluable genealogical data bases. Cheers, Mona On 14-04-14 11:08 AM, Desjardins Bertrand wrote: > Hi, > > Following Mona's most correct appraisal of the situation, I have conferred with Marcel Fournier, coordinator of The Fichier Origine. As some of you might know, I am the scientific adviser to the Fichier Origine. Also, the PRDH benefits from the Fichier as it betters its information, so we weant to be coherent in the information we offer. > > It is very tempting to add more info found in France but our enthusiasm has to be tempered with a very necessary prudence. Most will recognize that the quality of our work and our attention to new information makes the PRDH the reference for the genealogy of Quebec French-Canadian genealogy of the XVIIth and XVIIIth centuries. So before sending out on the internet the names of the parents of Marin Boucher, even with a caveat (that no one will take into account), we have to be especially careful. The identification of the Jeanne baptized in 1601 as the Jeanne who married Thomas Hayot is just a hypothesis because Jeanne's parents are not named in her marriage act. There are many Boucher families in Mortagne and the surrounding areas; the date of the baptism is five years off her age at marriage (aged 22 in the 1629 marriage). So if you go back to the Fichier Origine, you will find that the name of the parents have been removed from Jeanne's and Marin's files, and the date of the baptism of Jeanne also. Remains a note in jeanne's file about the existence of that baptism. > > Thank you Mona for your interventions... > > Bertrand Desjardins > PRDH > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] De la part de Patricia LeBeau > Envoyé : 13 avril 2014 18:05 > À : quebec-research@rootsweb.com > Objet : [Q-R] Jeanne Boucher 1601-1670 > > Thank you M. Desjardins! and everyone who responded. I just checked the update of Fichier Origine and there it is - >> BOUCHER, Marin 240491 >> Statut Marié >> Date de naissance Vers 1587 >> Lieu d'origine Mortagne-au-Perche (Orne) 61293 >> Parents Pierre BOUCHER et Roberte Parent >> Première mention au pays 1634 >> Occupation à l'arrivée Migrant arrivé avec sa famille >> Date de mariage 07-02-1611 >> Lieu du mariage Mortagne-au-Perche (St-Jean) >> Conjoint Julienne Baril >> Décès ou inhumation Château-Richer, 25-03-1671 >> Remarques Six enfants sont baptisés à St-Langis-lès-Mortagne : >> Jean, le 15-03-1613 ; Louise, le 15-08-1615 ; François, le 22-11-1617 >> ; Étiennette, le 11-05-1620 ; Charlotte, le 15-01-1622 et Marie, le >> 08-06-1625. Une autre fille est baptisée à Mortagne (St-Jean) : >> Nicole, le 08-11-1611. Sa femme Julienne Baril est inhumée à >> St-Langis-lès-Mortagne, le 16-12-1627. Marin Boucher épouse en >> secondes noces Perrrine Mallet dans la même paroisse, où deux enfants >> sont baptisés : Marin, le 29-08-1630 et Galleran, le 16-02-1633. Un >> fille, Marie est baptisée à Québec le 11-04-1644. >> Identification DGFQ, p.135 >> Chercheur(s) Archange Godbout >> Référence OFC, p. 166-168 >> Date de modification 2014-04-13 >> ----------------------- > I am so chuffed, I may explode! > > Patricia > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sorry, Fran, That's the "new" URL. The one that was there yesterday is gone. And Jeanne Boucher's has been changed again. Patricia

Good morning Bertrand, The link between Jeanne BOUCHER (wife of Thomas HAYET) and Marin BOUCHER is established in the marriage contract of Marie BOUCHER daughter of Marin, to Charles GODIN, on October 1, 1656, wherein Thomas HAYET and Jeanne BOUCHER are described as "oncle et tante de l'épouse", oncle and aunt of the bride. Furthermore, a Jeanne BOUCHER is godmother to Jean BOUCHER, son of Marin and Julienne BARIL, in Saint-Langis, on March 15, 1613. Most of what is known of this family was published in an article of the Mémoires (MSGCF), in 1957. If you take a look at the FO today, you'll see that yesterday's optimism was short lived. The parents of Marin Boucher remain unknown. The research in France is on-going as we speak but cannot progress beyond the available records. As often happens, I think it likely the answer we seek lurks somewhere in our own archives, possibly in Trois-Rivières, just waiting for the right person to turn the right page and connect the dots. ;o)) Cheers, Mona On 14-04-14 10:01 AM, Desjardins Bertrand wrote: > Of course you are right Mona: the Fichier Origine notes that the link between the 1601 baptism of a Jeanne and the 1629 Marriage of a Jeanne is not proven because the parents are not named in the marriage. However, the fact that Jeanne is the sister of Marin seems established although I don't know the source of the information. > > Now that the Fichier origine gives Pierre Boucher and Roberte parent as Jeanne's parents, albeit with a caveat, it extends to Marin the same parents, and no doubt this will spread and become a fact although it is not a proven fact. It would be nice if further research in France could dig up the missing proof:, given that Marin Boucher is one of the most important pioneers with a great many descendants. > > Bertrand Desjardins > PRDH > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] De la part de Mona Andrée Rainville > Envoyé : 13 avril 2014 12:35 > À : quebec-research@rootsweb.com > Objet : Re: [Q-R] RE : Jeanne Boucher 1601-1670 > > Until such time as can be proven that the Jeanne BOUCHER baptized on May 1st is the same Jeanne BOUCHER who married thomas HAYET, they remain unknown. > > Mona > > On 14-04-13 12:13 PM, linp219@aol.com wrote: >> So who are the correct parents for these two people, Jeanne and Marin Boucher ?? >> >> Linnie >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Desjardins Bertrand <bertrand.desjardins@umontreal.ca> >> To: Patricia LeBeau <kola626@embarqmail.com>; quebec-research >> <quebec-research@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sun, Apr 13, 2014 12:05 pm >> Subject: [Q-R] RE : Jeanne Boucher 1601-1670 >> >> >> You are right and I have written about it to Marcel Fournier, >> coordinator of the Fichier Origine. >> >> Bertrand Desjardins >> PRDH >> ________________________________________ >> De : quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> de la part de Patricia LeBeau [kola626@embarqmail.com] Envoyé : 13 >> avril 2014 09:17 À : quebec-research@rootsweb.com Objet : [Q-R] >> Jeanne Boucher 1601-1670 >> >> I know this is probably old stuff to most of the list, but I just >> discovered this lady in my Jette (page 560) married to Thomas Hayot or >> Ayotte 15 Jul 1629 in St-Jean, Mortagne-au-Perche, France. In his >> biographical sketch of her, Jette says "sister of Marin Boucher >> married to Julienne Baril." >> >> Since Marin is my 7th great-grandfather, I got mildly excited, even >> though the entry shows her parents as ... & ..., as it does for Marin. >> Many, many online trees show Marin as the brother of Gaspard Boucher, >> son of Jacques and Francoise Paigne, but an equal number say No, they >> are related somehow but not fraternally. >> >> BUT, Fichier Origine certificate #240487, updated 7 Nov 2011, gives >> Jeanne's date of baptism as 1 May 1601 in St-Jean, Mortagne-au-Perche >> and her parents as Pierre Boucher and Roberte Parent. In the Remarques >> it says "Elle est la soeur de Marin Boucher, époux en premières noces >> de Julienne Baril et en deuxième noces de Perrine Malet. Deux jumeaux : >> Noël et Noëlle sont baptisés le 25-12-1604. Une autre soeur Martine >> est baptisée le 07-07-1606 à l'église Saint-Jean." >> >> This I translate as "she is the sister of Marin Boucher, husband in a >> first marriage of Julienne Baril and in a second of Perrine Malet. Two >> twins, Noel and Noelle were baptized 25 Dec 1604. Another sister >> Martine was baptized 7 Jul 1606 at the church of St. Jean." >> >> If she has parents and is the sister of Marin, why does he not have >> the same parents, at least the father? in case Pierre remarried as so >> many were wont to. >> >> This is driving me crazy, though my golfing relatives would say it >> more like a short putt, so can someone please put my brain at rest? >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> Patricia LeBeau >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm >> And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ >> List Archives are at: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the message >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm >> And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ >> List Archives are at: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the message >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm >> And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ >> List Archives are at: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Doreen, Thank you for your additional informations. It does complete my search for the above couple. Calins Florent de Napierville -----Message d'origine----- De : Doreen O [mailto:grandeebc@shaw.ca] Envoyé : 14 avril 2014 01:55 À : Discussion Cc : QUEBEC-RESEARCH-L Objet : Re: [Q-R] Need parents to Charles Caissey & Marie-Rose Baril Berthierville, parish of Ste-Genevieve - marriage on 19 August 1907 between Charles Quessy,(sic) adult s/o Edouard Quessy & Marie-Anne Esciamble of the first part; and Diana St-Martin, adult d/o George St-Martin & Hermina Harnois of the other part, also of this parish. == The 1911 Canada Census for Berthier shows Charles Quessay(sic) age 26, wife Diana age 24 and son Charles age 3 == Iberville, parish of St-Athanase-de-Bleury - marriage on 1 December 1920 between Charles Caissey(sic), machinist, adult widower Diana St-Martin, of the first part; and Marie Rose Baril adult d/o Adelard Baril & Emily Chagnon of the other part. I could not locate death information for Diana. Doreen =========== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Discussion" <discussion@sympatico.ca> To: "QUEBEC-RESEARCH-L" <QUEBEC-RESEARCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 1:09:08 PM Subject: [Q-R] Need parents to Charles Caissey & Marie-Rose Baril Hi, I am searching the parents to Charles Caissey and Marie Rose Baril. They seems to have been married in Iberville on Dec. 1st 1920. Iberville repertoire de mariage is not giving parents. Thanks Florent ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dot, Here is some information I located online regarding Alphonse and Emma: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/r/i/Bruce-B-Brierley/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0386.html Maybe if you can contact the person who owns this tree they could give you more details. They list parents for both Alphonse and Emma in this tree, but then you could try and verify accuracy from there. Hope this helps.

Emma is buried in Rhode Island. Here is a list of Latondress(e) burials in Rhode Island, on Rootsweb (Rhode Island Historical Cemeteries). This a PDF document. In column 8 it gives the cemetery number (BU015). If you go to the main Rhode Island Historical Cemeteries page, it gives Cemetery Descriptions. Emma is buried at BU015, which gives the location of the burial: St. Patrick's, Burrillville, Cemetery Hill Road. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rigenweb/Cemetery2/CemeteryL2.pdf Her dates are 1864-1938 Hope this is helpful.

I see Jeanne Boucher updated today does not say she is sister of Marin. Doesn't mention Marin. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Desjardins Bertrand < bertrand.desjardins@umontreal.ca> wrote: > Of course you are right Mona: the Fichier Origine notes that the link > between the 1601 baptism of a Jeanne and the 1629 Marriage of a Jeanne is > not proven because the parents are not named in the marriage. However, the > fact that Jeanne is the sister of Marin seems established although I don't > know the source of the information. > > Now that the Fichier origine gives Pierre Boucher and Roberte parent as > Jeanne's parents, albeit with a caveat, it extends to Marin the same > parents, and no doubt this will spread and become a fact although it is not > a proven fact. It would be nice if further research in France could dig up > the missing proof:, given that Marin Boucher is one of the most important > pioneers with a great many descendants. > > Bertrand Desjardins > PRDH > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] De la part de Mona Andrée Rainville > Envoyé : 13 avril 2014 12:35 > À : quebec-research@rootsweb.com > Objet : Re: [Q-R] RE : Jeanne Boucher 1601-1670 > > Until such time as can be proven that the Jeanne BOUCHER baptized on May > 1st is the same Jeanne BOUCHER who married thomas HAYET, they remain > unknown. > > Mona > > >

Berthierville, parish of Ste-Genevieve - marriage on 19 August 1907 between Charles Quessy,(sic) adult s/o Edouard Quessy & Marie-Anne Esciamble of the first part; and Diana St-Martin, adult d/o George St-Martin & Hermina Harnois of the other part, also of this parish. == The 1911 Canada Census for Berthier shows Charles Quessay(sic) age 26, wife Diana age 24 and son Charles age 3 == Iberville, parish of St-Athanase-de-Bleury - marriage on 1 December 1920 between Charles Caissey(sic), machinist, adult widower Diana St-Martin, of the first part; and Marie Rose Baril adult d/o Adelard Baril & Emily Chagnon of the other part. I could not locate death information for Diana. Doreen =========== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Discussion" <discussion@sympatico.ca> To: "QUEBEC-RESEARCH-L" <QUEBEC-RESEARCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 1:09:08 PM Subject: [Q-R] Need parents to Charles Caissey & Marie-Rose Baril Hi, I am searching the parents to Charles Caissey and Marie Rose Baril. They seems to have been married in Iberville on Dec. 1st 1920. Iberville repertoire de mariage is not giving parents. Thanks Florent ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I saw the entry you found for Emma, and I found her death record https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F8HD-TZ7 Unfortunately her mother's last name is not listed there either, but it's possible the mother's last name is on the official record. You can send to the RI State Archives for a copy. Her birth date is 17 September 1863 on the RI State Census of 1935. I don't have a subscription to the world ancestry, and I didn't find Emma's birth at familysearch.org Maybe someone can find her birth record. I did see an Emma Prevost in the 1871 Canadian Census, daughter of Paul & Melvina. Born in 1864 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M4KG-WZ4 So, maybe a place to look for Emma's birth. The daughter was named Malvina, though, so maybe this will turn out to be the right family. You could try calling the church - 401- 568-2411 Lisa lisa.lepore2@gmail.com From: dhazvt@aol.com [mailto:dhazvt@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 5:49 PM To: lisa.lepore2@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Q-R] Malvina Ducharme, baptized 08 Jun 1900, St. Joseph, Pascoag, Rhode Island. Thanks for all the info Lisa. I am wondering if you can help me out with an Emma Prevost/Prebost?. She was born 19 Sep or Nov 1863. She married Alphonse Latendresse 27 Jun 1892 in Burrillville. Her parents were given as Paul Provost and Francis. Thanks, Dot -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@gmail.com> To: 'MK' <legoo98@gmail.com>; QUEBEC-RESEARCH <QUEBEC-RESEARCH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Apr 13, 2014 3:17 pm Subject: Re: [Q-R] Malvina Ducharme, baptized 08 Jun 1900, St. Joseph, Pascoag, Rhode Island. Not what you asked for, but familysearch.org has the birth of Malvina born the same day in Pascoag to to Zenon Ducharme & Virginie https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FZ12-H5T Then, a death for Verginie Blandouin Ducharme, spouse of John Z. Ducharme of Burrillville. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F843-W3J Father Edward Blandouin, mother Millie Prebost Pascoag is a village of Burrillville. I checked the books we own page at the QR site, but I didn't find it. I was sure there is someone on this list who owns the St. Joseph Pascoag book. Lisa lisalepore2@gmail.com > -----Original Message----- > From: quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-research- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MK > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 3:07 PM > To: QUEBEC-RESEARCH@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Q-R] Malvina Ducharme, baptized 08 Jun 1900, St. Joseph, > Pascoag, Rhode Island. > > Searching for the baptism record for Malvina Ducharme, baptized 08 June > 1900, St. Joseph, Pascoag, Rhode Island. > > Would anyone have access to Rhode Island parish records? If you do, > could someone please look this baptism up for Dot to see if it gives > the names of Malvina Lillian Ducharme's parents? > > Dot, a son of Malvina & Abraham Latondress, Wilfred J. Latondress, is > listed as buried in Rhode Island on www.FindAGrave.com. Wilfred's > memorial says his mother was Malvina Lillian Ducharme (1900- 1963) (not > sure if she would have died in Rhode Island?): > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=104827403> &GRid=104827403

Hi Fran and Linnie, A big thank you for all your informations. It does the trick again. You are of a big assistance. Calins Florent de Napierville De : Fran LaChance [mailto:singer.35@hotmail.com] Envoyé : 13 avril 2014 14:54 À : Discussion; QUEBEC-RESEARCH-L Objet : Re: [Q-R] Need parents to Charles Caissey & Marie-Rose Baril Edouard Chaecy s/o Charles of St. Godfroi & Marie Larocque m 07 Jan 1878 at Paspbiac Marie Anne Etiambe d/o Charles & Catherine Anglehart. married 14 Jan 1851, Carlton, QC [Estiembre] The dit name for Estiember is Sansfacon. Fran : On 13/04/2014 4:09 PM, Discussion wrote: Hi, I am searching the parents to Charles Caissey and Marie Rose Baril. They seems to have been married in Iberville on Dec. 1st 1920. Iberville repertoire de mariage is not giving parents. Thanks Florent _____ <http://www.avast.com/> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com/> protection is active.