When Sherrie Saponaro visited the graves of deceased family members Sunday in Silverbrook Cemetery, the first thing she noticed was a large number of bronze memorial vases were missing, including three belonging to her relatives. "I visited on Palm Sunday and they were there," Saponaro said. "But on Sunday, all the vases in the entire section were gone." According to state police, sometime between noon April 15 and noon April 17, someone entered the property and removed about 100 bronze memorial vases from the 116-year-old cemetery, situated between Lancaster Avenue and DuPont Road near Elsmere. Gracelawn Memorial Park near New Castle was also hit this month when 160 memorial vases were stolen sometime between 4:50 p.m. and 6 p.m. April 11, said Sgt. Paul Shavack, of the state police. When troopers investigated that incident, they found that the thieves cut a hole in the chain link fence to enter near the Minquadale side of the 82-acre memorial park. "They wiped out a 40-yard-long area near the fenceline and the roadway," Lee Hagenbach, the memorial park's executive director said. "Somebody took their time and carried the vases 60 feet back through the fence." The problem is a continuing one for cemeteries in Delaware. Between November and December of last year, a total of 600 vases were reported stolen from local cemeteries, including about 75 from Cathedral Cemetery at 2400 Lancaster Ave., 300 from Silverbrook, 75 from the Delaware Veterans Memorial Cemetery in Pencader, 50 from Gracelawn and nearly 100 vases from All Saints Cemetery at 6001 Kirkwood Highway in Milltown. At Silverbook, Saponaro said the thieves stole her grandparents' vases and a vase belonging to her aunt. All that was left on Easter Sunday were holes left in the flat bronze markers where the vases used to be. The graves site of Sherrie Saponaro’s aunt in Silverbrook Cemetery is missing a bronze vase. Over 300 hundred vases on grave sites have been stolen from the cemetery starting last Thanksgiving, with the bulk of the theft last week. Other cemeteries in the area are experiencing theft of the vase that can be melted down for profit. The bronze 11-inch tall vases weigh about 7 pounds each and range in price from $100 to more than $200, depending on the customization, said Claudia Parker, the cemetery's family services coordinator. The thieves are likely selling them as scrap metal and getting much less for them. Their worth to a metal recycler is only about $2.15 per pound, according to Scott Sherr, of Delaware State Recycling on Bowers Street in Wilmington. "Copper prices are down, but not down far enough to stop these thieves," he said. Silverbrook's Parker said a visitor to the cemetery last week saw a number of the vases lying on the ground together in one section and questioned why they had been pulled up. When she checked, Parker discovered scores more had been taken and alerted police. "They were probably going to come back and get these," she said. "Workers having lunch reported hearing dirt bikes about that time, but thought they were on the railroad tracks behind the cemetery. I was out there earlier, and it wasn't like that." The 100-acre family-owned cemetery, established in 1898, had been vandalized five months ago around Thanksgiving, when about 300 bronze vases were reported missing. Cathie McCloskey, of Mill Creek, said she first noticed the vases missing from her grandparents and great-grandparents' graves around Christmas. "There were all these empty rows, row after row, with vases missing," she said. "It gets my Mom really upset to see it like that because her parents and grandparents are buried at Silverbrook. We feel like we've been victimized twice, because we have to pay to replace the vases or recap them." Fifth-generation Silverbrook Cemetery owner Paul White III said everyone assumes that it's the cemetery's responsibility to cover the thefts through the perpetual care fee. "Perpetual care covers grass cutting, snow removal, trees down, but doesn't cover theft," White said. "Every time somebody purchases a grave stone or mausoleum, we tell them to insure it on their homeowners insurance. It's your property on cemetery property." Families victimized by these thefts are left with few options other than bearing the cost of replacement themselves. If families can't afford to spend the few hundred dollars to replace the bronze vases, a bronze-colored plastic vase can be purchased for $14, Parker said. Another option being considered is to epoxy the vase cap to cover the hole and prevent it from being pulled off. "It's really sad," Parker said. "You talk to some of these families who are in tears. I feel like that sometimes because I know what it means to the families." A memorial vase is seen at Gracelawn Memorial Park. (Photo: Gary Emeigh/The News Journal ) Gracelawn and Silverbrook officials are each investigating the possibility of installing surveillance cameras to stop the thefts, which they acknowledged would be a costly venture. After 120 bronze flower vases were stolen in early 2011 from Gracelawn, the memorial park had gates installed and have had security at the cemetery on weekends and evenings. This latest theft was the first time anyone cut a hole in the fence to steal vases, Hagenbach said. "It's disheartening for these families to come out to find their vases stolen," he said. "I feel bad for the families." White said both he and Hagenbach have visited "every scrap yard in the area" showing the metal recycling dealers what the bronze vases look like and asking them not to accept any should they show up to be recycled. "We've been doing our due diligence," White said. "Whether or not they accept them, I can't guarantee." Shavack said investigators have seen through past investigations that the thieves typically cut up the vases and mix them with other metals until they are unrecognizable before taking them to dealers. "If we get leads, we'll follow up," Shavack said. "But these items are turned around quickly. People should report suspicious activity in or near the cemetery. These vases are heavy and it's going to take several trips to get them to a vehicle." Detectives have been in contact with in-state metal recyclers, but have to depend on law enforcement in neighboring states to investigate the cases for them in their respective states. Police so far have no leads on either of the most recent cases. "The price of scrap metal is minimal, but the loss to these victims is immeasurable," Shavack said. "It used to be a nice thing to go to the cemetery," McCloskey said. "It's just a testament to the times that people are desperate and no regard for other people's belongings." Contact Terri Sanginiti at (302) 324-2771 or tsanginiti@delawareonline.com. Call police Anyone with information is asked to call detectives at Troop 2 at (302) 365-8440 or use the state police Mobile Crime Tip App by downloading it at: http://www.delaware.gov/apps/ or call Delaware Crime Stoppers at (800) TIP-3333.

15 veteran cemetery markers found roadside Origins of 15 bronze medallions unknown ZANESVILLE — When Bobby Kimes was picking up empty soda cans with his daughter Elizabeth last Friday, he never expected to find what he did. Thrown on the side of Crock Road in southwestern Muskingum County were 15 bronze cemetery markers, the kind used to mark the graves of armed forces veterans. “We were just out walking and we came across them, covered in leaves and dirt,” Kimes said. Kimes then examined the medallions, noticing some were decorated with World War I, Gulf War and Vietnam War inscriptions. Others had their inscriptions ground off, he said, but most remained in good condition. To return the markers to their rightful owners, Kimes immediately called the Muskingum County Sheriff’s Office. “It’s just the right thing to do,” he said. Deputy Craig Swingle, the officer who responded to the call, wrote in his report that the stars could have been stolen from a nearby cemetery, but no local cemeteries had reported stolen medallions. Kimes thinks the possible theft was an attempt to sell scrap metal that was abandoned. The markers might have been left by the side of the road because any effort made to scrap the metal would have come up dry, Perry Scrap Yard office manager Jenny Eachus said. The Ohio Revised Code mandates that “grave markers, sculptures, plaques, and vases made out of metal, the appearance of which suggests that the articles have been obtained from a cemetery” be regarded as a special purchase article in the sale of scrap metal. This would require the seller to present a letter of permission from the markers’ original owners before offering them to a scrapyard. Any scrapyard that would accept such an item without the letter could be charged with a fifth-degree felony. “There’s no way we would even look at them,” Eachus said. “If they don’t have a permission slip, we will not take them.” Even if the would-be scrapper was able to sneak the medallions past the scrapyard regulations, Eachus said they wouldn’t make much money from them. Bronze scrap metal is trading at $1.11 per pound, according to the Global Scrap Register, and the medallions are each less than a pound. The case is still considered open, and the markers are being held as evidence until authorities can determine where they came from. “We just have to find out where they belong,” Kimes said. _arumer@zanesvilletimesrecorder.com_ (mailto:arumer@zanesvilletimesrecorder.com) 740-450-6758

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-28005-2946-26?cc=1321742&wc=MH19-W29:21602701,21602702,22580903 need the info on the death of Jean #44 he must be 98 something PRDH gave his birth bef 1716 but he was married to a Claire Nadeau in 1750. Selma

I want to thank you all for your help. I appreciate your help so much. It has been years since I looked at my Provencher information. And I thought there may be information on my ancestors. I started putting a book together about my ancestors.....generation. My Provencher is one of my last French-Canadian. It is early days and I am looking forward to having lots of fun discovering my ancestors again. Mary -----Original Message----- From: Renee Cummings <rcummi1123@rogers.com> To: 'Doreen O' <grandeebc@shaw.ca>; slooogin <slooogin@aol.com> Cc: QUEBEC-RESEARCH <QUEBEC-RESEARCH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Apr 24, 2014 3:43 pm Subject: RE: [Q-R] Sebastien Provencher, marriage record PRDH mariage de SEBASTIEN PROVENCHER Statut(s) : Immigrant Naissance : vers 1634 FRANCE INDETERMINEE Décès : 1710-00-00 Bécancour Premier mariage : 1663-01-22 Lieu indéterminé (au Québec) avec MARGUERITE MANCHON The marriage contract was signed in the presence of notary Louis Laurent on 22 January 1663, according to a notation made in the inventory of goods enacted in the presence of notary Cusson on 24 April 1691, just before the marriage of Sebastien Provencher to Marie-Catherine Guillet dit Lajeunesse, daughter of Pierre and of Jeanne St-Pair. Sebastien's second marriage took place in the Church of Sainte-Marie-Madeleine in Cap-de-la-Madeleine, Champlain, on 14 May 1691. Union 1663-01-22 Lieu indéterminé (au Québec) PROVENCHER SEBASTIEN & MANCHON MARGUERITE PRDH Good luck Renee -----Original Message----- From: quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doreen O Sent: April-24-14 1:40 PM To: slooogin@aol.com Cc: QUEBEC-RESEARCH@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Q-R] Sebastien Provencher, marriage record http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/genealogieSearch.aspx PRDH does not have a location for the 1663 marriage in Quebec. Doreen ========= ----- Original Message ----- From: slooogin@aol.com To: QUEBEC-RESEARCH@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:29:23 AM Subject: [Q-R] Sebastien Provencher, marriage record I would like to verify the information that I have for Sebastien Provencher, b. 1628 and Marquerite Manchon born in some unknown year, in France. They were married on Jan 22, 1663, in Becancour, Quebec, Canada. I also descend from Sebastien through his second wife Marie Catherine Guillet, b. unknown. She married Sebastien in a double marriage ceremony with his son Sebastien at Cap-de-la-Madeleine on May 14, 1691. I could not find Sebastien's first marriage as the index didn't go back that far in Family Search. I was wondering if the marriage could be verified. This is all the information that I have for Sebastien's father Toussant Provencher wasborn after 1550 in France Thank you, Mary Boudreau

Another Emilie question, I located an Emilie Rivard Bellefeuille buried in the Notre Dame des Neiges cemetery in Montreal in 1894-03-18 with the rest of my ancestors. I can't find a death record for this Emilie on ancestry.ca. Does anyone have access to another data base that might provide this information? And, does anyone know if the cemetery offers any type of genealogy information on deceased persons if I were to contact them? Thanks again, Dan ------------------------------ On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 4:37 AM CST (China) Desjardins Bertrand wrote: >It seems to me that the 1851 census « I found a 35 yr old Emilie living with Jean Baptiste Bellefeuille (age 66) and Leon Bellefeuille (age 15) and a sister, Tersila (age 40) in the 1851 Canada Census in St Maurice county.» shows without a doubt that she is the daughter of jean baptiste Rivard bellefeuille and Madeleine Godin who had a daughter Tharsille baptised April 18 1810. The fact that Emilie was said to be a widow in the 1861 census is not to be taken as a fact that she had married as it can just have been written because she was living with a son (people were discreet about illegitimate offsprings...). > >The father cited in Leon's marriage, Augustin Laroche, should be the one who was married with Marguerite Marchand living in Maskinonge, although he was still living in 1858 (he is said «defunt» in Leon's marriage). Again, acts could be imprecise in this type of context... > >Bertrand Desjardins >________________________________________ >De : quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com [quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] de la part de bigdaddyb26@yahoo.com [bigdaddyb26@yahoo.com] >Envoyé : 23 avril 2014 08:56 >À : Mona Andrée Rainville >Cc : quebec-research@rootsweb.com >Objet : Re: [Q-R] Emelie Rivard Bellefeuille > >Perfect. Thanks Mona!!! That certainly rules her out then. > >I'm going to start digging for the death record of the first Emilie and I'm hoping that will shed some more light on who she is. > >Thanks again > >Dan > >Sent from my iPod > >On 2014-04-23, at 4:11 AM, Mona Andrée Rainville <veeren@videotron.ca> wrote: > > Hello Dan, > > The second Emilie, married to Casimir Gelinas, cannot have been the > mother of your Leon, born in January 1837, for she had just given birth > one month before to Charles Onesime George Gelinas. > > Remains the first Emilie, perhaps... > > Cheers, > > Mona > > On 14-04-23 1:14 AM, bigdaddyb26@yahoo.com wrote: > Hey Listers, > > My ggg-grandfather was born Leon "inconnu" in Maskinonge in 1837. His marriage record shows him as Leon LaRoche m. Adeline Chalifoux in Montreal (Notre Dame basilica) in 1858. His parents are listed as Augustin Laroche and Emilie Bellefeuille. However, shortly after he married, he changed his name to Leon Bellefeuille. > > I have been trying to determine for years which Emelie Bellefeuille of the many out there is my ancestor. Very, very difficult as I have nothing else to go on. > > Recently, I checked the 1861 Canada census for Leon and located Emelie Bellefeuille living with Leon and his family. She is listed as a widow and 43 years old which puts her birth in 1818, give or take a few years. > > I believe I've narrowed the window to two and was hoping a lister or two could give me some advice. > > 1) Emmelie Rivard Bellefeuille born Maskinonge 1815-Feb-18 to Jean Baptiste Rivard dit Bellefeuille and Magdeline Gaudin. I can't find a marriage or death record for her. I found a 35 yr old Emilie living with Jean Baptiste Bellefeuille (age 66) and Leon Bellefeuille (age 15) and a sister, Tersila (age 40) in the 1851 Canada Census in St Maurice county. She's the one I am leaning towards, but can't find a marriage record. > > The other, > > 2) Emilie Rivard Bellefeuille. I don't have a birth date for her. Her parents are listed on her marriage record as Philippe Rivard Bellefeuille and Benomie Gadiose (sp). She married Casimere Gelinas on 1832-Jul-10 in Yamachiche. She died in 1873 at the age of 64 years which puts her birth on 1809 give or take a few years. She was a widow when she died and I could only find her in the 1851 Canada Census living with Casimire in St Maurice County. Her age is listed as 41 years or approximately 1810 birth year. She is older, but died a widow. > > Sorry for the long winded email. But I am hoping someone out there can help me move past this horrendously difficult wall. > > Thanks for "listening". It is much appreciated. > > Dan > > > Sent from my iPod > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm >And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ >List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Laurie I found 2 more children for that couple Baptême Bécancour 1825-08-10 Naissance : 1825-08-09 Acte du Fonds Drouin : d1p_25040080.jpg BERGERON NANTES , EULALIE Sujet sexe f. BERGERON NANTES , JOSEPH Père DESAUNIER , PELAGIE Mère ======================== Baptême Yamaska 1827-11-23 Naissance : 1827-11-22 Acte du Fonds Drouin : d1p_20391043.jpg BERGERON , MOISE Sujet sexe m. BERGERON , JOSEPH Père LESIEUR DESAUNIER ,PELAGIE Mère Good luck Renee -----Original Message----- From: quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laurie J Bashaw Sent: April-24-14 1:39 PM To: QUEBEC-RESEARCH@rootsweb.com Subject: [Q-R] Cyrille Bergeron baptism/birth date info I am hoping that someone can help me with a baptism/birth date info for Cyrille Bergeron. His parents were Joseph Bergeron and Pelagie Lesieur-Desaulniers. The information that I have says he was born 9 Sept 1823 at Becancour but I don't have proof and that is what I am looking for. I have searched the parish records for St-Gregoire and can't find it there. I find his siblings that were born before him; being Joseph, Jerome, Marguerite, Uldoric, Narcisse. Born after Cyrille are Eulalie (also said to be born in Becancour but ??), Mathilda, John, Moses and Louis, who I have no clue about. Thank you for any and all help. Laurie Bashaw

Headstones Vandalized at Historic Linn County Cemetery CENTRAL CITY, Iowa - The recent vandalism of dozens of headstones here at Oak Hill Cemetery in Central City has been the talk of the town lately, both because of the age of the culprits, and the age of the headstones that were knocked over. The Linn County Sheriff's Office said the vandalism happened on April 12th. Approximately 60 headstones were knocked over or torn out of the ground completely, an estimated $3,000 in damage. They say three children, ages 6 and 7, confessed to the crime. Many of the headstones are engraved with death dates from the mid 1800's. Some are so weather-worn you can no longer read them. Mary Somers, who has relatives buried there, was relieved to see their graves were untouched. "My maiden name is Shakespear, and this is the Shakespear lot right here," said Somers, pointing to three small headstones. "These were my grandparents, Hiram and Mary." Somers has seen Oak Hill Cemetery vandalized before, and was disappointed to hear that it happened again. "It makes me wonder who would do such things, or why," Somers explained. "I wonder what benefit somebody gets from doing something like that." Despite the vandalism being noteworthy enough to make the front page of the local newspaper, the cemetery's board of trustees declined to comment on-camera about it, saying only that they're working to repair the damage as soon as possible. The Linn County Sheriff's Office said the board of trustees for the cemetery is working with the parents of the children, and no charges will be filed.

Woman Seen Stealing Toy from Richland Co. Baby's Grave ONTARIO, Ohio (Ken Hines) -- Police hope central Ohioans can help them catch a thief who was caught on camera stealing a stuffed animal from the grave of a baby. Ontario police set up a hidden camera at Mansfield Memorial Park Cemetery after receiving complaints from the parents of Hayden "Tank" Cole Sheridan, who passed away in 2007 at the age of 14 months. Hayden's parents told police someone had been stealing toys and solar night lights from their son's grave since his burial. On April 19, the thief captured by the police camera was recorded stealing a stuffed duck from the boy's grave approximately 4-5 hours after it was placed there by the parents. Anyone with any information about the thefts is encouraged to contact the Ontario Police Department at 419-529-2115.Woman Seen Stealing Toy from Richland Co. Baby's Grave

Researchers seek info on fallen Canadians Since 1991, every Christmas Eve, the children of Holten, Netherlands, light candles to place on the gravestones of the fallen Canadians buried in the Holten Canadian War Cemetery for giving their lives to protect their town. "What they do every Christmas Eve, they don't understand that's a service to our country ... they see it as a sacred duty," said Mike Muntain, lead researcher for A Face for Every Name. A Face for Every Name is a project to connect pictures and biographies to each Canadian buried at the Dutch cemetery. The cemetery is compiling a database of the fallen men and placing the information at the gravestones. The cemetery is the resting place for 1,355 Canadians who died liberating the Dutch during the Second World War. Nearly all of the men died in the last stages of the war. Twenty of the 62 who were from Saskatchewan have been tracked down already, but Muntain's group is reaching out to the province for more information on each man. "Any information, no matter how small, is important," Muntain said. The project began in Kingston, Ont., when Muntain and Peter Gower, also a researcher on the Princess of Wales Own Regiment, were asked to track down information and pictures of five Canadians who were from Kingston. From there, the search expanded to finding information about all of the Canadians buried in Holten. At the beginning of the search, Muntain thought he would only receive information from obituaries, but people have sent more than he expected. He has received war diaries, letters sent home from soldiers, a family-compiled book on one soldier and photos of children with their fathers on leave. He said the research has been a "roller-coaster of emotions." Muntain, who is originally from Regina, has his own connection to the war - his grandfather served in the Regina Rifle Regiment. About 100 Canadians have been found in the past two months. Muntain said he wants to keep going until every lead is exhausted. "How can you not, when you see what they're doing for our boys?" he said. If you have information on someone buried at Holten Canadian War Cemetery, you can contact Muntain at 613-888-7267 or mjmuntain@gmail.com. rbohmann@leaderpost.com SASK. SOLDIERS BURIED AT HOLTEN Pte. Kenneth G. Allen, Indian Head Cpl. John Bailey, Regina Pte. John J. Batyski, Ituna Lieut. Robert W. Bells, Quill Lake Cpl. Francis E. Belton, Star City Pte. Robert E. Binkley, Etomami Trooper Thomas P. Birkett, Blaine Lake Rifleman Joseph C. Bisschop, Sheho Pte. Arthur A. Boucher, Biggar Guardsman Maurice A. Bouvier, Gravelbourg Pte. James A. Brown, Moose Jaw Rifleman Steve Chudyk, Oakshela Pte. Gaston J. Couture, Meyronne Trooper. Lyle L. Craig, Paddockwood Pte. Robert J. Craik, Saskatoon Pte. Louis S. Dautremont, Alida Cpl. Leonard G. Davies, Bredenbury Rifleman Canisius J. Ell, Sedley Pte. Stanley Ellis, Regina Rifleman John M. Flatt, Fenwood Cpl. H.R. Forde, Swift Current Lance Sgt. John A. Glavin, Lakenheath Pte. John J. Graham, Leroy Cpl. Robert C. L. Guest, Swift Current Rifleman Herbert H.H. Hilbach, Kerrobert Trooper. Walter L. Huber, Serath Pte. Albert Hughes, Tompkins Pte. Quintin M. Johannsen, Serath Pte. Roy L. Kalln, Regina Pte. John Kibzey, Bienfait Guardsman. Cecil D. Knight, Aylesbury Pte. Palmer Knutson, Naicam Guardsman George E. Krauchi, Loon Lake Pte. Frits M. Lemke, Bruno Pte. Howard J. Linnell, Saskatoon Gunner L. Markoskie, Hyas Cpl. Wilfred A. Martel, Fillmore Lieut. Roy C. Mathison, Bounty Lance Sgt. Jon S. McCombie, Runciman Company Sgt.-Maj. Jack A. Nelson, Prince Albert Pte. Harold F. Norwood, North Regina Sapper Ole L. Olson, Invermany Gunner Carl G. Olson, Amiens Pte. John R. Patrick, Indian Head Craftsman Robert S. Peirson, Invermay Pte. Gaetan M. Perron, Montmartre Sgt. David P. Preston, Maple Creek Lieut. Clarence D. Ray, Prince Albert Pte. Henry O. Renner, La Jord Sgt. Wesley C. Robinson, Weyburn Cpl. John Sawatzky, Petaigan Pte. Albert J. Selmes, Saskatoon Sgt. Walter A. Shea, Moose Jaw Trooper Russell R. M. Shier, Weldon Pte. David J. Smith, Deer Ridge Gunner George W. Steele, Whitewood Gunner Leslie P.C. Temple, Regina Company Sgt.-Maj. Edward S. Tenklei, Regina Cpl. Norman R. Tyerman, Valparaiso Sapper. Ralph Walker, Meadow Lake Pte. Gottlieb Wiegand, Young Rifleman George S. Wilson, Yorkton

April 24,1885 Fish Creek Saskatchewan - Frederick Dobson Middleton 1825-1898 engages the Metis troops of Gabriel Dumont 1838-1906 at Fish Creek; battle a stalemate; Middleton badly mauled and his advance to Batoche slowed; loses 11 killed and 48 wounded. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -

Bones being washed out into ocean at Cape Breton cemetery <FIGCAPTION>Human bones are exposed along the coast of Cape Breton Island due to erosion at coastal cemetery in this undated handout photo. The oldest grave, which has been moved back three times, is from 1878. Handou Bones in a cemetery on the coast of Cape Breton Island are being unearthed due to erosion and the caretaker says there is little he can do to protect the graves. This year is particularly bad due to a lot of rain and run-off, Hector Murphy said in an interview Tuesday from his home in Ingonish, N.S. "It happens every spring. The spring is the worst time, but it can happen any time," he said. He said he learned about the recent erosion on Friday and between Monday and Tuesday, he had already seen changes in the cemetery as more bones were unearthed. With more rain expected this week, Murphy expects the situation to only worsen. The oldest grave has been moved back three times, about 30 to 40 feet each time, and dates from 1878, he said. The graves may be from people who died in a shipwreck or a plague, although records for the graves were destroyed in a church fire. The United Church of Canada owns the property, but Rev. Margaret Wood told CTV that while the local congregation has a small cemetery trust fund, it doesn't cover erosion. Murphy said he has been trying to get funding to put armour stones along the edge of the cliff to prevent the bones from going over and into the ocean, but so far has only received a commitment from their municipal government. That funding will only come through if the provincial and federal government also help out.

I found it at familysearch.org it took place at Nativite de Notre Dame de Becancour go to the website below to find it. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-28003-1817-40?cc=1321742&wc=MHBY-NNG:13624501,13624502,13822001 Regards, Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurie J Bashaw" <ljbashaw@chartermi.net> To: QUEBEC-RESEARCH@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 1:38:49 PM Subject: [Q-R] Cyrille Bergeron baptism/birth date info I am hoping that someone can help me with a baptism/birth date info for Cyrille Bergeron.  His parents were Joseph Bergeron and Pelagie Lesieur-Desaulniers.  The information that I have says he was born 9 Sept 1823 at Becancour but I don't have proof and that is what I am looking for.  I have searched the parish records for St-Gregoire and can't find it there.  I find his siblings that were born before him; being Joseph, Jerome, Marguerite, Uldoric, Narcisse.  Born after Cyrille are Eulalie (also said to be born in Becancour but ??), Mathilda, John, Moses and Louis, who I have no clue about. Thank you for any and all help. Laurie Bashaw ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Mary, and all, Sébastien PROVENCHER and Marguerite MANCHON (real name is MARCHON) contracted to marry on January 22, 1663 in front of notary Louis Laurent du PORTAL, in Cap de la Madeleine. They were probably married shortly thereafter in Cap de la Madeleine but the record went the same way all the other early records for that parish went, and vanished. Don't go looking for the actual marriage contract. It too has disappeared. Though a fair bit of sleuthing I was able to find a mention of it in an inventory drawn up by notary Cusson, on April 26, 1691. Although Cusson lists the contract in the inventory, he does not copy its actual content. As a result the name of both Sébastien's and Marguerite's parents is unknown. Recent research by myself and by the Provencher Family Association point to Marguerite and Sébastien having been related. If we are correct, Marguerite's paternal grand-mother was in fact a PROVENCHER. I will refrain from providing further details as this research is on-going and our findings remain conjectural. Cheers, Mona On 14-04-24 4:43 PM, Renee Cummings wrote: > PRDH mariage de > SEBASTIEN PROVENCHER Statut(s) : Immigrant > > Naissance : vers 1634 FRANCE INDETERMINEE > > Décès : 1710-00-00 Bécancour > > Premier mariage : 1663-01-22 Lieu indéterminé (au Québec) > > avec MARGUERITE MANCHON > > The marriage contract was signed in the presence of notary Louis Laurent on > 22 January 1663, > according to a notation made in the inventory of goods enacted in the > presence of notary Cusson on 24 April 1691, just before the marriage of > Sebastien Provencher to Marie-Catherine Guillet dit Lajeunesse, daughter of > Pierre and of Jeanne St-Pair. Sebastien's second marriage took place in the > Church of Sainte-Marie-Madeleine in Cap-de-la-Madeleine, Champlain, on 14 > May 1691. > > Union 1663-01-22 Lieu indéterminé (au Québec) PROVENCHER SEBASTIEN & > MANCHON MARGUERITE PRDH > > Good luck > Renee > > -----Original Message----- > From: quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doreen O > Sent: April-24-14 1:40 PM > To: slooogin@aol.com > Cc: QUEBEC-RESEARCH@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Q-R] Sebastien Provencher, marriage record > > http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/genealogieSearch.aspx > > > PRDH does not have a location for the 1663 marriage in Quebec. > > Doreen > ========= > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: slooogin@aol.com > To: QUEBEC-RESEARCH@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:29:23 AM > Subject: [Q-R] Sebastien Provencher, marriage record > > > I would like to verify the information that I have for Sebastien Provencher, > b. 1628 and Marquerite Manchon born in some unknown year, in France. They > were married on Jan 22, 1663, in Becancour, Quebec, Canada. > > I also descend from Sebastien through his second wife Marie Catherine > Guillet, b. unknown. She married Sebastien in a double marriage ceremony > with his son Sebastien at Cap-de-la-Madeleine on May 14, 1691. > > I could not find Sebastien's first marriage as the index didn't go back that > far in Family Search. I was wondering if the marriage could be verified. > > This is all the information that I have for Sebastien's father Toussant > Provencher wasborn after 1550 in France > > > > Thank you, > Mary Boudreau > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Laurie Eulalie born 9 Aug 1825 bap. Becancour died 15 Feb 1830 Louiseville Moise born 22 Nov 1827 bap. Yamaska Don In a message dated 4/24/2014 1:40:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ljbashaw@chartermi.net writes: I am hoping that someone can help me with a baptism/birth date info for Cyrille Bergeron. His parents were Joseph Bergeron and Pelagie Lesieur-Desaulniers. The information that I have says he was born 9 Sept 1823 at Becancour but I don't have proof and that is what I am looking for. I have searched the parish records for St-Gregoire and can't find it there. I find his siblings that were born before him; being Joseph, Jerome, Marguerite, Uldoric, Narcisse. Born after Cyrille are Eulalie (also said to be born in Becancour but ??), Mathilda, John, Moses and Louis, who I have no clue about. Thank you for any and all help. Laurie Bashaw ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

PRDH mariage de SEBASTIEN PROVENCHER Statut(s) : Immigrant Naissance : vers 1634 FRANCE INDETERMINEE Décès : 1710-00-00 Bécancour Premier mariage : 1663-01-22 Lieu indéterminé (au Québec) avec MARGUERITE MANCHON The marriage contract was signed in the presence of notary Louis Laurent on 22 January 1663, according to a notation made in the inventory of goods enacted in the presence of notary Cusson on 24 April 1691, just before the marriage of Sebastien Provencher to Marie-Catherine Guillet dit Lajeunesse, daughter of Pierre and of Jeanne St-Pair. Sebastien's second marriage took place in the Church of Sainte-Marie-Madeleine in Cap-de-la-Madeleine, Champlain, on 14 May 1691. Union 1663-01-22 Lieu indéterminé (au Québec) PROVENCHER SEBASTIEN & MANCHON MARGUERITE PRDH Good luck Renee -----Original Message----- From: quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doreen O Sent: April-24-14 1:40 PM To: slooogin@aol.com Cc: QUEBEC-RESEARCH@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Q-R] Sebastien Provencher, marriage record http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/genealogieSearch.aspx PRDH does not have a location for the 1663 marriage in Quebec. Doreen ========= ----- Original Message ----- From: slooogin@aol.com To: QUEBEC-RESEARCH@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:29:23 AM Subject: [Q-R] Sebastien Provencher, marriage record I would like to verify the information that I have for Sebastien Provencher, b. 1628 and Marquerite Manchon born in some unknown year, in France. They were married on Jan 22, 1663, in Becancour, Quebec, Canada. I also descend from Sebastien through his second wife Marie Catherine Guillet, b. unknown. She married Sebastien in a double marriage ceremony with his son Sebastien at Cap-de-la-Madeleine on May 14, 1691. I could not find Sebastien's first marriage as the index didn't go back that far in Family Search. I was wondering if the marriage could be verified. This is all the information that I have for Sebastien's father Toussant Provencher wasborn after 1550 in France Thank you, Mary Boudreau

Hi Dot, It means, daughter born out of wedlock of unknown father and of Marie Madeleine Fontaine, wife of François Rivière. Well, at least you now know who the mother is... ;o) Cheers, Mona On 14-04-24 4:23 PM, dhazvt@aol.com wrote: > I have a question about her parents. She married Jacques Baptiste Cauchon 24 Apr 1716 at Ange-Gardien > > > I found info that said she was born 3 May 1693, location not given. Her mother's name was given as Marie Madeleine Fontaine. > > > There was this note with the record. > > > Fille naturelle de père inconnu et de Marie-Madeleine Fontaine, femme de François Rivière > > > Thanks, Dot > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a question about her parents. She married Jacques Baptiste Cauchon 24 Apr 1716 at Ange-Gardien I found info that said she was born 3 May 1693, location not given. Her mother's name was given as Marie Madeleine Fontaine. There was this note with the record. Fille naturelle de père inconnu et de Marie-Madeleine Fontaine, femme de François Rivière Thanks, Dot

Hi Laurie Baptême Bécancour 1823-09-09 Naissance : 1823-09-09 Acte du Fonds Drouin : d1p_25040021.jpg BEGERON , CYRILLE Sujet sexe m. BEGERON , JOSEPH Père DESAUNIER , PELAGIE Mère Good luck Renee -----Original Message----- From: quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laurie J Bashaw Sent: April-24-14 1:39 PM To: QUEBEC-RESEARCH@rootsweb.com Subject: [Q-R] Cyrille Bergeron baptism/birth date info I am hoping that someone can help me with a baptism/birth date info for Cyrille Bergeron. His parents were Joseph Bergeron and Pelagie Lesieur-Desaulniers. The information that I have says he was born 9 Sept 1823 at Becancour but I don't have proof and that is what I am looking for. I have searched the parish records for St-Gregoire and can't find it there. I find his siblings that were born before him; being Joseph, Jerome, Marguerite, Uldoric, Narcisse. Born after Cyrille are Eulalie (also said to be born in Becancour but ??), Mathilda, John, Moses and Louis, who I have no clue about. Thank you for any and all help. Laurie Bashaw

Another Emilie question, I located an Emilie Rivard Bellefeuille buried in the Notre Dame des Neiges cemetery in Montreal in 1894-03-18 with the rest of my ancestors. I can't find a death record for this Emilie on ancestry.ca. Does anyone have access to another data base that might provide this information? And, does anyone know if the cemetery offers any type of genealogy information on deceased persons if I were to contact them? Thanks again, Dan ------------------------------ On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 4:37 AM CST (China) Desjardins Bertrand wrote: >It seems to me that the 1851 census « I found a 35 yr old Emilie living with Jean Baptiste Bellefeuille (age 66) and Leon Bellefeuille (age 15) and a sister, Tersila (age 40) in the 1851 Canada Census in St Maurice county.» shows without a doubt that she is the daughter of jean baptiste Rivard bellefeuille and Madeleine Godin who had a daughter Tharsille baptised April 18 1810. The fact that Emilie was said to be a widow in the 1861 census is not to be taken as a fact that she had married as it can just have been written because she was living with a son (people were discreet about illegitimate offsprings...). > >The father cited in Leon's marriage, Augustin Laroche, should be the one who was married with Marguerite Marchand living in Maskinonge, although he was still living in 1858 (he is said «defunt» in Leon's marriage). Again, acts could be imprecise in this type of context... > >Bertrand Desjardins >________________________________________ >De : quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com [quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] de la part de bigdaddyb26@yahoo.com [bigdaddyb26@yahoo.com] >Envoyé : 23 avril 2014 08:56 >À : Mona Andrée Rainville >Cc : quebec-research@rootsweb.com >Objet : Re: [Q-R] Emelie Rivard Bellefeuille > >Perfect. Thanks Mona!!! That certainly rules her out then. > >I'm going to start digging for the death record of the first Emilie and I'm hoping that will shed some more light on who she is. > >Thanks again > >Dan > >Sent from my iPod > >On 2014-04-23, at 4:11 AM, Mona Andrée Rainville <veeren@videotron.ca> wrote: > > Hello Dan, > > The second Emilie, married to Casimir Gelinas, cannot have been the > mother of your Leon, born in January 1837, for she had just given birth > one month before to Charles Onesime George Gelinas. > > Remains the first Emilie, perhaps... > > Cheers, > > Mona > > On 14-04-23 1:14 AM, bigdaddyb26@yahoo.com wrote: > Hey Listers, > > My ggg-grandfather was born Leon "inconnu" in Maskinonge in 1837. His marriage record shows him as Leon LaRoche m. Adeline Chalifoux in Montreal (Notre Dame basilica) in 1858. His parents are listed as Augustin Laroche and Emilie Bellefeuille. However, shortly after he married, he changed his name to Leon Bellefeuille. > > I have been trying to determine for years which Emelie Bellefeuille of the many out there is my ancestor. Very, very difficult as I have nothing else to go on. > > Recently, I checked the 1861 Canada census for Leon and located Emelie Bellefeuille living with Leon and his family. She is listed as a widow and 43 years old which puts her birth in 1818, give or take a few years. > > I believe I've narrowed the window to two and was hoping a lister or two could give me some advice. > > 1) Emmelie Rivard Bellefeuille born Maskinonge 1815-Feb-18 to Jean Baptiste Rivard dit Bellefeuille and Magdeline Gaudin. I can't find a marriage or death record for her. I found a 35 yr old Emilie living with Jean Baptiste Bellefeuille (age 66) and Leon Bellefeuille (age 15) and a sister, Tersila (age 40) in the 1851 Canada Census in St Maurice county. She's the one I am leaning towards, but can't find a marriage record. > > The other, > > 2) Emilie Rivard Bellefeuille. I don't have a birth date for her. Her parents are listed on her marriage record as Philippe Rivard Bellefeuille and Benomie Gadiose (sp). She married Casimere Gelinas on 1832-Jul-10 in Yamachiche. She died in 1873 at the age of 64 years which puts her birth on 1809 give or take a few years. She was a widow when she died and I could only find her in the 1851 Canada Census living with Casimire in St Maurice County. Her age is listed as 41 years or approximately 1810 birth year. She is older, but died a widow. > > Sorry for the long winded email. But I am hoping someone out there can help me move past this horrendously difficult wall. > > Thanks for "listening". It is much appreciated. > > Dan > > > Sent from my iPod > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm >And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ >List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am hoping that someone can help me with a baptism/birth date info for Cyrille Bergeron. His parents were Joseph Bergeron and Pelagie Lesieur-Desaulniers. The information that I have says he was born 9 Sept 1823 at Becancour but I don't have proof and that is what I am looking for. I have searched the parish records for St-Gregoire and can't find it there. I find his siblings that were born before him; being Joseph, Jerome, Marguerite, Uldoric, Narcisse. Born after Cyrille are Eulalie (also said to be born in Becancour but ??), Mathilda, John, Moses and Louis, who I have no clue about. Thank you for any and all help. Laurie Bashaw