are these 2 names inter-changeable? I am looking into Louis Sansfacon (consigny) and Madeleine thibodeau. I am wondering if there are 2 couples with the same names. I a have found 2 different  sets of parents. date that are way off. the couple I am tracing are from St-Basile, Madawaska, New Brunswick, yet I find a marriage for a couple in St-Louis, Kamouraska. in 1764, yet Louis is said to have been born abt 1757. 2 kids born 1764 & 1765 in Kamouraska. the others abt 1783-84 in Madawaska. and marrying there. Any help greatfully accepted. To make matters worse Louis is sometimes a Consigny and other times a Sansfacon Selma

I asked my cousin Yvon if he could comment on some messages that included a Marie Crete and his reply follows: Joyce ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Yvon Crête <y.crete@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, May 1, 2014 Hi Joyce. - I just can confirm Renee's information: it was a catholic rehabilitee marriage following a first marriage in a protestant ceremony held 25 years before. This information was written in the catholic St. Alphonse marriage registration. Robert Clermont and Vitaline Périard married in March of 1886 rather than May as being written by Jack Leclair. Their son Pierre Clermont was born in 1864 or 1865, and was probably registered in a protestant church. Regards. Yvon Crête Mail: y.crete@videotron.ca Web: http://pages.videotron.com/ycrete/ *From:* Joyce Crete <ivyfrances@gmail.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 30, 2014 6:15 PM Hi Yvon some information involving a Marie Crete. Would you be able to add any other information we could pass along Joyce Looking for the DOM and any other information for Robert Clermont and Vitaline Périard/Périllard. BMS has a date of 1886-05-25 at St-Alphonse, Hawkesbury, Ont. But, their(?) son, Pierre married Marie Crete on 1892-06-27. (6 yrs old?) Is this Robert's second marriage? St-Alphonse's records in that time frame were unreadable or missing.. Could someone check on Ancestry for me, please? Thanks in advance, Jack Leclair Hi Jack I found that 1886 marriage record. It was a rehabilitee marriage. The couple had been married for about 25 years in a protestant ceremony. The first marrige was about 1861 Sending you the record separately. Good luck Renee ~

If anyone can get that page up there is another baptism on the left hand side  Selma

http://interactive.ancestryinstitution.com/1110/d13p_31370917/633867? backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestryinstitution.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3frank%3d1%26new%3d1%26MSAV%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gss%3dangs-c%26gsfn%3dlouis%26gsln%3dsansfacon%2b%26msbdy%3d1757%26msbpn__ftp%3dNew%2bBrunswick%252c%2bCanada%26msbpn%3d5004%26msbpn_PInfo%3d5-%257c0%257c1652393%257c0%257c3243%257c0%257c5004%257c0%257c0%257c0%257c0%257c%26uidh%3ddw5%26mssng0%3dmadeleine%26mssns0%3dthibodeau%26pcat%3d34%26h%3d633867%26recoff%3d10%2b13%26db%3ddrouinacadia%26indiv%3d1%26ml_rpos%3d1&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord I don't think this will go through Looking at a baptismal record for a H?larion Sansfacon son of Louis and Marie Cormier baptisted 16 Aug 1818 born 22 June if I am reading this right. Can't make out the spelling of his first name. ITs at the St-Basile Madawaska, New Brunswick Selma

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Just a note on some research I've been doing on this lady and her relatives. She is said to have been born abt 1604 in Courgeon, Mortagne, Perche, France to Pierre Mallet or Maillet and Jacqueline Liger or Leger, according to page 136 in Jette's genealogical dictionary. However, I have found on Denis Beauregard's page (francogene) that the town is actually Courgeoût, which is less than 5 km from St-Langis-des-Mortagne, where she is said to have married Marin Boucher before 1630 (PRDH and Fichier Origine) or 29 Mar 1629 in unsourced online family trees or maybe in 1628. Her mother Jacqueline Liger or Jacquette Leger was born in Courgeoût, maybe around about 1580, where she married first Mathry Noé before 1596 when their first child Barbe was baptized 13 Apr 1596, their second Jean 18 Jan 1600 & buried 1 Jan 1616. They may have had two other children whose baptismal dates are not given where the names are found. Mathry was buried 10 Feb 1601 at Courgeoût according to Beauregard. Jacqueline or Jacquette next married Pierre Mallet about 1603 in Courgeoût, with the unproven date of 13 March 1602. Besides daughter Perrine they had a daughter Lienarde baptized 19 Sep 1609 and son Etienne baptized 5 Jul 1613 Courgeoût. Pierre seems to have adopted Barbe and Jean, as they are found in some trees under the surname Mallet. While a goodly bit of information is out there, it has to be entered judiciously into our databases, with sources given, whether proven or not. I use Legacy Family Tree, and they have the best way to do this that I have found, allowing for the possibility of more than one set of parents until one or the other has been proven completely impossible, and so on. I love puzzles and mysteries, and my retirement has been full of both since I caught the genealogy bug! Patricia

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First time in weeks on-line about geneology and old message I see that I have conflicting information that looks as if it incorrect. Following are some notes that I have and if some of you could tell me if I should just disregard the whole lot and start over with the current messages. Sorry there are a lot of notes: Joyce Crete from QR archives year 2000 Oct 06 2000 Descendants of: Marin (le marin) BOUCHER As Related to: Paulette BOUDREAULT 1 Marin (le marin) BOUCHER b. 15 Apr 1589 d. 25 Mar 1671 (9th great grand father) m. Perinne MALLET m. Mar 29 1629 b. 1604 d. 24 Aug 1687 [daughter of Pierre MALLET and Jacqueline LEGER] m. Julianne du BARIL m. 7 Feb 1611 b. 1593 d. 15 Dec 1627 [daughter of Jean BARIL and Raouline CRETE\CRESTE] 2 Louis Marin (Beaubuisson) BOUCHER b. 25 Aug 1630 d. 18 Dec 1700 (9th great uncle) m. Marie MIELIU\MAILLOUX b. 1634 2 Jean Galleran BOUCHER b. 16 Fe ================================ MARIN BOUCHER (homme) # référence: 81,4206 Année de référence: 1589 Père: JACQUES-JEAN BOUCHER Mère: FRANCOISE PAIGNE Occupation: MACON Naissance: 15 APR 1589,ST-JEAN, LANGY, MORTAGNE, PERCHE, FRANCE Décès: 25 MAR 1671,CHATEAU-RICHER, MONTMORENCY, QUEBEC Inhumation: 29 MAR 1671,LA VISITATION, QUEBEC Gedcom de Jodoin, Jean (81): Familles Fisette et Jodoin (06-2006) Union 1 Date de mariage: 29 MAR 1629 Lieu: ST-JEAN, LANGY, MORTAGNE, PERCHE, FRANCE PERRINE MALLET (femme) # référence: 81,5945 Année de référence: 1604 Père: PIERRE MALLET Mère: JACQUETTE LEGER JEAN-GALLERAN BOUCHER (homme) # référence: 81,5961 Année de référence: 1633 Naissance:Baptême:Décès:Inhumation: 16 FEB 1633,ST-JEAN, LANGY, MORTAGNE, PERCHE, FRANCE 16 FEB 1633,ST-JEAN, LANGY, MORTAGNE, PERCHE, FRANCE 28 MAR 1714,RIVIERE-OUELLE, KAMOURASKA, QUEBEC 29 MAR 1714,RIVIERE-OUELLE, KAMOURASKA, QUEBEC FRANCOISE-MARIE BOUCHER (femme) # référence: 81,2814 Année de référence: 1636 Naissance:Décès:Inhumation: 22 JUN 1636,QUEBEC, QUEBEC 18 APR 1711,CHATEAU-RICHER, MONTMORENCY, QUEBEC 20 APR 1711,CHATEAU-RICHER, MONTMORENCY, QUEBEC PIERRE BOUCHER (homme) # référence: 81,10943 Année de référence: 1639 Naissance:Décès: 13 FEB 1639,QUEBEC, QUEBEC 13 MAY 1707,RIVIERE-OUELLE, KAMOURASKA, QUEBEC MARIE-MADELEINE BOUCHER (femme) # référence: 81,7554 Année de référence: 1641 Naissance:Décès: 4 AUG 1641,CHATEAU-RICHER, MONTMORENCY, QUEBEC OCT 1709,STE-CROIX, QUEBEC MARIE BOUCHER (femme) # référence: 81,274 Année de référence: 1644 Naissance:Baptême:Décès: 11 APR 1644,STE-ANNE DE BEAUPRE, QUEBEC 11 APR 1644,STE-ANNE DE BEAUPRE, QUEBEC 18 JAN 1712,L'ANGE-GARDIEN, QUEBEC Union 2 Date de mariage: 7 FEB 1611 Lieu: ST-JEAN DE MORTAGNE, PERCHE, FRANCE JULIENNE DU BARIL (femme) # référence: 81,4207 Année de référence: 1590 Père: JEAN BARIL Mère: RAOULLINE CRETE FRANCOIS BOUCHER (homme) # référence: 81,4204 Année de référence: 1617 Naissance:Baptême:Décès: 22 NOV 1617,PERCHE, FRANCE 22 NOV 1617,ST-LANGIS-LES-MORTAGNES, PERCHE, FRANCE 26 MAY 1672,SILLERY, QUEBEC ===================================from CGFA Jun/08

Hi Jack I found that 1886 marriage record. It was a rehabilitee marriage. The couple had been married for about 25 years in a protestant ceremony. The first marrige was about 1861 Sending you the record separately. Good luck Renee -----Original Message----- From: quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Leclair Sent: April-30-14 9:15 AM To: quebec-research@rootsweb.com Subject: [Q-R] (no subject) Looking for the DOM and any other information for Robert Clermont and Vitaline Périard/Périllard. BMS has a date of 1886-05-25 at St-Alphonse, Hawkesbury, Ont. But, their(?) son, Pierre married Marie Crete on 1892-06-27. (6 yrs old?) Is this Robert's second marriage? St-Alphonse's records in that time frame were unreadable or missing.. Could someone check on Ancestry for me, please? Thanks in advance, Jack Leclair "Two days from now, tomorrow, will be yesterday, you saw the future coming and now its history."

Heal quickly Doreen Erica V Erica Dakin Voolich •Genealogist, check out my genealogy blogs http://genea-adventures.blogspot.com http://ursulawright.blogspot.com http://geneabloggers.com/introduce-erica-dakin-voolich/ •Secretary, Middlesex Chapter, Massachusetts Society of Genealogists •President Somerville Mathematics Fund Dollars for Scholars Chapter, Winner of the 2011, New England Chapter of the Year Award Chapter, Winner of the 2003-2004 *Golden Tassel* Service Award We celebrate and encourage mathematics achievement in Somerville MA! http://www.somervillemathematicsfund.org Become a fan on our Facebook page: Facebook | Somerville Mathematics Fund Check out my blog: http://somervillemathematics.blogspot.com/ On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Claire Goyette <clg721@charter.net> wrote: > Good luck Doreen. > > ClaireG > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

With all my prayers for a quick recovery and many thanks for all your time and assistance these many times. God Bless and Good Health to follow. Harriet On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:20 AM, Erica Voolich <voolich@gmail.com> wrote: Heal quickly Doreen Erica V Erica Dakin Voolich •Genealogist, check out my genealogy blogs http://genea-adventures.blogspot.com/ http://ursulawright.blogspot.com/ http://geneabloggers.com/introduce-erica-dakin-voolich/ •Secretary, Middlesex Chapter, Massachusetts Society of Genealogists •President Somerville Mathematics Fund Dollars for Scholars Chapter, Winner of the 2011, New England Chapter of the Year Award Chapter, Winner of the 2003-2004 *Golden Tassel* Service Award We celebrate and encourage mathematics achievement in Somerville MA! http://www.somervillemathematicsfund.org/ Become a fan on our Facebook page: Facebook | Somerville Mathematics Fund Check out my blog: http://somervillemathematics.blogspot.com/ On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Claire Goyette <clg721@charter.net> wrote: > Good luck Doreen. > > ClaireG > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jack ....here's the marriage you are looking for ......Vitaline Perillard =Ellen Robillon Don Name: Robert Clarmont Birth Place: St. Martin, Quebec, Canada Residence: West Hawkesbury Township Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Father Name: Robert Clarment Mother Name: Domenthilde Claremont Spouse Name: Ellen Robillon Spouse's Age: 22 Spouse Birth Year: abt 1840 Spouse Birth Place: West Hawkesbury Township Spouse Residence: West Hawkesbury Township Spouse Father Name: Baptiste Robillon Spouse Mother Name: Betsy Robillon Marriage Date: 20 Jan 1862 Marriage Location: L'Orignal Marriage County or District: Prescott In a message dated 4/30/2014 9:19:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, leclairjh@sympatico.ca writes: Looking for the DOM and any other information for Robert Clermont and Vitaline Périard/Périllard. BMS has a date of 1886-05-25 at St-Alphonse, Hawkesbury, Ont. But, their(?) son, Pierre married Marie Crete on 1892-06-27. (6 yrs old?) Is this Robert's second marriage? St-Alphonse's records in that time frame were unreadable or missing.. Could someone check on Ancestry for me, please? Thanks in advance, Jack Leclair "Two days from now, tomorrow, will be yesterday, you saw the future coming and now its history." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for the DOM and any other information for Robert Clermont and Vitaline Périard/Périllard. BMS has a date of 1886-05-25 at St-Alphonse, Hawkesbury, Ont. But, their(?) son, Pierre married Marie Crete on 1892-06-27. (6 yrs old?) Is this Robert's second marriage? St-Alphonse's records in that time frame were unreadable or missing.. Could someone check on Ancestry for me, please? Thanks in advance, Jack Leclair "Two days from now, tomorrow, will be yesterday, you saw the future coming and now its history."

Hi Doreen, I hope it is a simple, "day" surgery you are scheduled for. I'm 69, and have my annual Mammo's.     And the doctors a few yrs. ago saw "a little tiny thing" to keep an eye on.   Well, 2 yrs. ago that "little tiny thing" got a tiny bit bigger."     A "biopsy" showed  "pre-cancer" and that "little, tiny thing" was removed.   Two "day" surgeries and I'm healthy - in that area ! Also a reminder for people "over 60" to have your annual-physicals.    ~5 yrs. ago hubby was found to have "early-stage Prostate cancer.    It was treated, and he is healthy now - in that area. And, have someone check your back -- and backside -- for moles that just don't look right !      I have 2 neighbors - both dealing with Melanoma -  cancer on their scalp.   The man next door ~77, the man across the street ~74 has his son in his 30's dealing with it -  and his does not look good for him. And, I think I might have mentioned my husband's "severe headache"  3 1/2 yrs. ago.    He doesn't like doctors and didn't want to get it checked out.   Since he never got headaches, I .insisted.    Early the next morning, after a test, the doctor called and said,   "GET YOUR HUSBAND TO AN EMERGENCY ROOM --- NOW !!!     He has a Brain Aneurysm - a large one !"     We got in the car and drove to the local hospital;  they only took 20 min. to put him in an ambulance and send him to a large Boston hospital.     He was one of the "damn lucky" ones and survived the 9 hrs. of Brain surgery. ......  To add a little genealogy to this,  how lucky we are - to be living after 2000.    How many of our ancestors - "dropped dead" or  suffered for months because of a health problem that couldn't be fixed. Betty             (near Lowell, MA, USA) (3 ties to Canada:    KERR / HENDERSON in P.Q.,   LEWIS / CORKILL - BHC - in N.S., and  KIDDER / WILKINS in N.B.)

Good luck Doreen. ClaireG

Not to sure if this has been asked before. I am searching for the parents of Alexis Laverdure who went west and married a Angelique Montour I believe Alexis to be born around 1765 In Quebec. I believe around Terrebonne Qc. Thanks for any help that is found. JDWL

Dear cousins and friends - never stop checking yourself for lumps and bumps no matter what age you are. Even though you may have a medical certificate from the Marcus Welby School of Medicine (like I have!) you may miss something. Now it's my turn to sign off the list for about a week or so as I have a date with a surgeon on Thursday, May 1. Cheers! Doreen

ps: Antoinette is not Hunault dit Deschamps Fran On 29/04/2014 2:54 PM, Fran LaChance wrote: > Hi Monte; > > From genealogiequebec: > > Leo Lapare - 22 Dec 1987, Salaberry de Valleyfield > > Antoinette Deschamps - 7 Oct 1995 " > > Fran L > > > On 29/04/2014 1:41 PM, Monte LeBlanc wrote: >> Looking for the burial dates for a Leo Lapare and his wife Antoinette >> Deschamps, possibly in Saint-Anicet. He died circa 1986 and she died circa >> Nov 1995 >> Thanks in advance >> Monte LeBlanc >> >> --- >> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. >> http://www.avast.com >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm >> And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ >> List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hi Monte; From genealogiequebec: Leo Lapare - 22 Dec 1987, Salaberry de Valleyfield Antoinette Deschamps - 7 Oct 1995 " Fran L On 29/04/2014 1:41 PM, Monte LeBlanc wrote: > Looking for the burial dates for a Leo Lapare and his wife Antoinette > Deschamps, possibly in Saint-Anicet. He died circa 1986 and she died circa > Nov 1995 > Thanks in advance > Monte LeBlanc > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

There are 3 documents I would very much like to have translated, if anyone on this list would be so kind. The first 2 are regarding the minor children of Joseph Hogue and his deceased wife Marie Josephe Belanger. Tutelle des enfants mineurs de feu Marie Josèphe Bélanger et de Joseph Hogue . - 13 mars 1778 (2 images) http://pistard.banq.qc.ca/unite_chercheurs/description_fonds?p_anqsid=201404291215401624&p_centre=06M&p_classe=CP&p_fonds=601&p_numunide=959214 The last one is an inventory after Marie Josephe’s death Clôture d'inventaire des biens de la succession et de la communauté de feu Marie Josèphe Bélanger et Joseph Hogue . - 4 juin 1778 http://pistard.banq.qc.ca/unite_chercheurs/description_fonds?p_anqsid=201404291215401624&p_centre=06M&p_classe=CP&p_fonds=601&p_numunide=959301 There are 2 images but I only need the section regarding Joseph. Joseph and Marie Josephe are my 4X great grandparents. They had 7 children before Marie Josephe’s death. Joseph remarried and had another 14 children with his second wife, Marie Josephe Paquet! Jackie Corrigan