Selma, I noticed that Renee sent you info and mentioned that one of the Josephs was married to Marguerite Hobertin rather than Aubertin. "Les Grandes Familles" gives her name as Aubertin but the marriage registration in Drouin shows her surname as Hobertin. I checked the PRDH reference and found some other fun things which may mess up any searches you record. PRDH says "The name 'Gerbert' has been replaced by its standard 'jalbert'" and shows the marriage reference as Joseph Jalbert married 1722 at Boucherville to Marie Marguerite Bertin Aubertin. Another fun one for you! Doreen ============== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Selma Grant" <selma_grant@yahoo.com> To: "Doreen O" <grandeebc@shaw.ca> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2014 12:23:35 AM Subject: Re: [Q-R] 2 Joseph Gertbert's Thank you. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 9:06 PM, Doreen O <grandeebc@shaw.ca> wrote: > > >"Les Grandes Familles" shows the following: > >1) - Joseph  n 30-01 b 01-12-1695 Cap-St-Ignace s/o Jacques Gerbert (Mathurin & Élisabeth Targer) & Marie Pelletier (Jean & Anne Langlois); he married 21-09-1718 Rivière-Ouelle to Catherine Gagnon (Jacques & Marie-Madeleine Rocheron)and they had 10 children.  > > >2) - Joseph  n b 17-05-1699 Cap-St-Ignace s/o Jacques Gerbert & Marie Pelletier; he d 01 s 02-02-1756 Cap-St-Ignace.  This Joseph married 19-10-1722 Boucherville (ct 18-10-1722 Tailhandier) to Marguerite Aubertin (Jean & Claire-Françoise Gauthier) and they had 17 children. > >Quite possibly each of the above Josephs had a second name which was not recorded but may show up in each of their marriage records. > > >Doreen >============ > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Selma Grant" <selma_grant@yahoo.com> >To: "Quebec-Research" <Quebec-Research-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 5:06:30 PM >Subject: [Q-R] 2 Joseph Gertbert's > >Looking at Tanguay I just realized that Jacques Gerbert and Marie Pelletier are the parents of 2 Joseph's one born 1695 and the other 1699. Now HOW did Tanguay decide which one was married to whom? As it stand I have them with the wrong wife. I know parents would give another child the name of a former child, but that is usually when the first one died.   >Any explanation would be appreciated > >Selma >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm >And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ >List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Selma Tanguay went by age. GERBERT , JOSEPH Baptême Cap-St-Ignace 1699-05-17 Naissance : 1699-05-17 Acte du Fonds Drouin : d1p_31180087.jpg GERBERT , JOSEPH Mariage Boucherville 1722-10-19 Acte du Fonds Drouin : d1p_1147b1358.JPG GERBER , JOSEPH Sujet Origine : CAP-ST-IGNACE âge 024 Ét. civ. célib. ****** HOBERTIN , MARGUERITE Sujet âge 018 Ét. civ. célib. GERBER , JACQUES Père de l'époux décès décédé PELTIER , MARIE Mère de l'époux HOBERTIN , JEAN Père de l'épouse GAUTIER , CLAIRE Mère de l'épouse ======================== GERBERT , JOSEPH Baptême Cap-St-Ignace 1695-02-01 Naissance : 1695-01-30 Acte du Fonds Drouin : d1p_31180082.jpg Mariage Rivière-Ouelle 1718-09-21 Acte du Fonds Drouin : d1p_31160871.jpg GELBERT , JOSEPH Sujet origine : CAP-ST-IGNACE Ét. civ. célib. GAGNION , MARIE CATHERINE Sujet Résidence : LA BOUTEILLERIE Ét. civ. célib. GELBERT , JACQUES Père de l'époux décès décédé PELLETIER , MARIE Mère de l'époux GAGNION , JACQUES Père de l'épouse ROCHERON , MARIE MADELEINE Mère de l'épouse Good luck Renee -----Original Message----- From: quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Renee Cummings Sent: June-15-14 9:38 AM To: 'QUEBEC-RESEARCH-L' Subject: [Q-R] from the archives 2 Joseph Gertbert's From: Selma Grant < selma_grant@yahoo.com <mailto:selma_grant@yahoo.com> > Subject: [Q-R] 2 Joseph Gertbert's Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 17:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Looking at Tanguay I just realized that Jacques Gerbert and Marie Pelletier are the parents of 2 Joseph's one born 1695 and the other 1699. Now HOW did Tanguay decide which one was married to whom? As it stand I have them with the wrong wife. I know parents would give another child the name of a former child, but that is usually when the first one died. Any explanation would be appreciated Selma

From: Selma Grant < selma_grant@yahoo.com <mailto:selma_grant@yahoo.com> > Subject: [Q-R] Joseph Gerbert again Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 17:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Just found on ancestry a marriage for Joseph and Marguerite Hobertin and if I read it correctly it says he is 24 which would have him born in 1699 not the Joseph born in 1695. They other Joseph's was so bad a bleedthrough I don't see how anyone could read that. Selma

From: Selma Grant < selma_grant@yahoo.com <mailto:selma_grant@yahoo.com> > Subject: [Q-R] 2 Joseph Gertbert's Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 17:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Looking at Tanguay I just realized that Jacques Gerbert and Marie Pelletier are the parents of 2 Joseph's one born 1695 and the other 1699. Now HOW did Tanguay decide which one was married to whom? As it stand I have them with the wrong wife. I know parents would give another child the name of a former child, but that is usually when the first one died. Any explanation would be appreciated Selma

"Les Grandes Familles" shows the following: 1) - Joseph n 30-01 b 01-12-1695 Cap-St-Ignace s/o Jacques Gerbert (Mathurin & Élisabeth Targer) & Marie Pelletier (Jean & Anne Langlois); he married 21-09-1718 Rivière-Ouelle to Catherine Gagnon (Jacques & Marie-Madeleine Rocheron)and they had 10 children. 2) - Joseph n b 17-05-1699 Cap-St-Ignace s/o Jacques Gerbert & Marie Pelletier; he d 01 s 02-02-1756 Cap-St-Ignace. This Joseph married 19-10-1722 Boucherville (ct 18-10-1722 Tailhandier) to Marguerite Aubertin (Jean & Claire-Françoise Gauthier) and they had 17 children. Quite possibly each of the above Josephs had a second name which was not recorded but may show up in each of their marriage records. Doreen ============ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Selma Grant" <selma_grant@yahoo.com> To: "Quebec-Research" <Quebec-Research-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 5:06:30 PM Subject: [Q-R] 2 Joseph Gertbert's Looking at Tanguay I just realized that Jacques Gerbert and Marie Pelletier are the parents of 2 Joseph's one born 1695 and the other 1699. Now HOW did Tanguay decide which one was married to whom? As it stand I have them with the wrong wife. I know parents would give another child the name of a former child, but that is usually when the first one died.   Any explanation would be appreciated Selma ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just found on ancestry a marriage for Joseph and Marguerite Hobertin and if I read it correctly it says he is 24 which would have him born in 1699 not the Joseph born in 1695. They other Joseph's  was so bad a bleedthrough I don't see how anyone could read that. Selma

Looking at Tanguay I just realized that Jacques Gerbert and Marie Pelletier are the parents of 2 Joseph's one born 1695 and the other 1699. Now HOW did Tanguay decide which one was married to whom? As it stand I have them with the wrong wife. I know parents would give another child the name of a former child, but that is usually when the first one died.   Any explanation would be appreciated Selma

Mariage Neuville 1760-10-05 Acte du Fonds Drouin : d1p_31100591.jpg LECLERT , FRANCOIS Sujet origine : PAROISSE DE ST-ETIENNE, EVECHE DE MESE, PROVINCE D'ALLEMAGNE Ét. civ. célib. TRUDEL , MARIE FRANCOISE Sujet Ét. civ. célib. LECLERT , BASTIEN Père de l'époux CHARTRE , BARBE Mère de l'époux TRUDEL , RENE Père de l'épouse LIENARD , MARIE ANNE Mère de l'épouse Good luck Renee I hate to bother you again but I can't find the marriage of Francois Lecleire & Marie Francoise Trudelle. Please tell me all the other ways for Lecleire-Leclerc-Leclare-Leclair. I'm missing something I'm going to go & try again. I even put in Marie Trudelle & just guessed about the Marriage year. Darlene

Hi! Darlene, from the Marriages of Portneuf County, Page 334 and 561: François Leclerc m Marie-Françoise Trudel October 05, 1760 in Neuville François parents were, Bastien Leclerc and Barbe Chartre (from England) Françoise parents, René Trudel and Marie-Anne Lienard Roch Roch: I hate to bother you again but I can't find the marriage of Francois Lecleire & Marie Francoise Trudelle. Please tell me all the other ways for Lecleire-Leclerc-Leclare-Leclair. I'm missing something I'm going to go & try again. I even put in Marie Trudelle & just guessed about the Marriage year. Darlene

You can check here for any dit names: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~unclefred/DitNames.html Doreen ============ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harriet E. Cady" <kd4318@yahoo.com> To: "Genealogy Quebec" <Quebec-Research@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:49:37 AM Subject: [Q-R] Asselin, Coulombe Lebel Coutu Anyone recognize the names and maybe some connections?  Was Columbe ever used in place of Coutu?|Harriet Hi Harriet,   Glad to be of help.   Yes I got the message about the Couture/Asselin’s.   No one I recognize. My family were Coulombe(my mother’s maiden name) and Coutu, my mother’s mother maiden name.  For Asselin I have Joseph Asselin (my grandfather), his father Vital, his father Jean Baptiste (having trouble with info for him and his wife Eliza Lebel Asselin), and his father Gabriel who disappeared.  Etc etc … more Asselin’s up to Rene Ancelin/Asselin.  My mother’s father Felix Coulombe was in plays in Biddeford Maine!   ….Vance     From:Harriet E. Cady [mailto:kd4318@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 4:11 PM To: Asselin, Vance Subject: Re: obituary   Thank you so much Vance for this which spoke so well of my great great grandfather's character. I was interested to know of his bladder problems because I have them and my urologist says often inherited conditions. You have really made my two days.  Did you find anything on Jane Hefflon his wife. Now if I can get wills from St Albans Probate I will gain a little more data on family. Did you get my Couture Asselin message?|Harriet   On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 3:47 PM, "Asselin, Vance" <Vance.Asselin@state.vt.us> wrote:   Hi Harriet, Here is another one for John Boyd. ....Vance ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anyone recognize the names and maybe some connections?  Was Columbe ever used in place of Coutu?|Harriet Hi Harriet,   Glad to be of help.   Yes I got the message about the Couture/Asselin’s.   No one I recognize. My family were Coulombe(my mother’s maiden name) and Coutu, my mother’s mother maiden name.  For Asselin I have Joseph Asselin (my grandfather), his father Vital, his father Jean Baptiste (having trouble with info for him and his wife Eliza Lebel Asselin), and his father Gabriel who disappeared.  Etc etc … more Asselin’s up to Rene Ancelin/Asselin.  My mother’s father Felix Coulombe was in plays in Biddeford Maine!   ….Vance     From:Harriet E. Cady [mailto:kd4318@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 4:11 PM To: Asselin, Vance Subject: Re: obituary   Thank you so much Vance for this which spoke so well of my great great grandfather's character. I was interested to know of his bladder problems because I have them and my urologist says often inherited conditions. You have really made my two days.  Did you find anything on Jane Hefflon his wife. Now if I can get wills from St Albans Probate I will gain a little more data on family. Did you get my Couture Asselin message?|Harriet   On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 3:47 PM, "Asselin, Vance" <Vance.Asselin@state.vt.us> wrote:   Hi Harriet, Here is another one for John Boyd. ....Vance

Hi! Darlene, from the Marriages of “St-Denis-sur-Richelieu,” Verchères County, Page 155: Jean-Pascal Leclère m Marguerite Leroux February 26, 1827 Jean-Pascal Leclère parents were, Nicolas Leclère and Anne-Hélène Bourque Marguerite parents were, Joseph Leroux and Marguerite Laroche Nicolas Lecleire m Hélène Bourque October 04, 1790, Ref: Page 148 Nicolas parents were, François Lecleire and Françoise Trudelle Hélène Bourque parents were, Claude Bourque and Marie Guillebaut, Page 26 Roch Roch: The Father of Jean Pascal Leclerc was a Nicolas & his Mother a Bourque but no matter how I put it in Drouin that Marriage won't come up for me. Can you find it? Jean Pascal was married at St. Denis-Richlieu Darlene

Hello List, This query recently posted to V-Group List...Perhaps Renee Cummings [by chance] may have some input for Rod Cummings in OR...whose name was changed from Viau to Cummings in Late 1890s/early 1900. Rod wondered why the name was changed. Rod's grgrgrgrandfather was Charles Viau who came from Canada to Sault Saint Marie. Rod's grgrgrandfather was son Nelson who married Mary McClure of Chippewa Heritage, her father was Paul [Pillow] Charboneau. Nelson [1830-1902] and Mary had Rod's great grandfather Paul Cummings in 1857. Nelson may have been in a mental hospital at some point according to Ancestry.Com. Ciao, Tom Glassel

In a message dated 6/10/2014 12:44:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, DStam33157@aol.com writes: Darlene, from the 1870 census it showed that all the children at that point born to Joseph Leclair & Sophie St-Michel were born in Canada I found the baptism of a few of these children, either at La Presentation or St-Ours John b 1857 ( Jean Louis Leclerc bapitzed 19 Oct 1857 14 months old, godparents Louis Leclerc & Rose Martin) checked marriage record for Louis & Rose .............his parents were JEAN PASCAL LECLERC & MARGUERITE LEROUX dite CARDINAL Jean Pascal Leclerc & Marguerite Leroux had a son Joseph born 17 Dec 1829 at St-Denis Richelieu so I think this is your John & Margaret Don

Hi! Darlene, I have the BMS for St-Ours, St-Hyacinthe County, 1681-2004, if you think that I can help you with anything specific let me know. I found this one in the Births section, Page 378: François Leclair was born May 03 and baptized May 04, 1859 François Leclair parents were, Joseph Leclair and Sophie St-Michel Roch My Aunt married a Leclair. His Parents were Joseph Leclair & Sophie St. Michel. They were married in 1852 in MA-Worcester. It says his Parents are John & Margaret. When Joseph died in MI his children put Joseph as the Father of their Dad. Joseph was born in 1829 in Quebec. Joseph & Sophie were his Grandparents. Thanks for any help. Darlene T. Holling

Darlene, from the 1870 census it showed that all the children at that point born to Joseph Leclair & Sophie St-Michel were born in Canada I found the baptism of a few of these children, either at La Presentation or St-Ours John b 1857 ( Jean Louis Leclerc bapitzed 19 Oct 1857 14 months old, godparents Louis Leclerc & Rose Martin) checked marriage record for Louis & Rose .............his parents were JEAN PASCAL LECLERC & MARGUERITE LEROUX dite CARDINAL Jean Pascal Leclerc & Marguerite Leroux had a son Joseph born 17 Dec 1829 at St-Denis Richelieu so I think this is your John & Margaret Don In a message dated 6/10/2014 11:14:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rcummi1123@rogers.com writes: From: dtdoe@aol.com <mailto:dtdoe@aol.com> Subject: [Q-R] Mystery of Leclerc Family Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:29:25 -0400 (EDT) To All: My Aunt married a Leclair. His Parents were Joseph Leclair & Sophie St. Michel. They were married in 1852 in MA-Worcester. It says his Parents are John & Margaret. When Joseph died in MI his children put Joseph as the Father of their Dad. Joseph was born in 1829 in Quebec. Joseph & Sophie were his Grandparents. They moved to New Hampshire at least they were there in 1870. Several of the children were born there. I can't find a John Leclerc & Marguerite who work out right. I found a Joseph Leclerc who married Marguerite Bouvier Sept. 12, 1820 at St. Ours. I found these children born to them there.Antoine in 1823-Ignace in 1827,, Jean Baptiste in 1825 Marie in 1830, Norbert in 1832, Judith in 1833. I have never found a Joseph born to them. However, I never find them again--Not on a 1851 Census or 1861. No children being married in Quebec. They were married under Leclerc--I used that--Leclair, Leclaire, Laclare LeClair & others. They all just disappeared. Joseph's wife Sophie St. Michel was found. Her Parents were Alexis St. Michel & Appoline Fugere-Champagne. I have further information on them. My Leclair cousins are having a big reunion here this summer & all are looking for the Leclair information. I thought I had the track with Joseph Leclerc & Marguerite Bouvier but I guess that is wrong. I can't seem to find a John & Marguerite who fit in. I've been trying for months Thanks for any help. Darlene T. Holling ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: dtdoe@aol.com <mailto:dtdoe@aol.com> Subject: [Q-R] Mystery of Leclerc Family Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:29:25 -0400 (EDT) To All: My Aunt married a Leclair. His Parents were Joseph Leclair & Sophie St. Michel. They were married in 1852 in MA-Worcester. It says his Parents are John & Margaret. When Joseph died in MI his children put Joseph as the Father of their Dad. Joseph was born in 1829 in Quebec. Joseph & Sophie were his Grandparents. They moved to New Hampshire at least they were there in 1870. Several of the children were born there. I can't find a John Leclerc & Marguerite who work out right. I found a Joseph Leclerc who married Marguerite Bouvier Sept. 12, 1820 at St. Ours. I found these children born to them there.Antoine in 1823-Ignace in 1827,, Jean Baptiste in 1825 Marie in 1830, Norbert in 1832, Judith in 1833. I have never found a Joseph born to them. However, I never find them again--Not on a 1851 Census or 1861. No children being married in Quebec. They were married under Leclerc--I used that--Leclair, Leclaire, Laclare LeClair & others. They all just disappeared. Joseph's wife Sophie St. Michel was found. Her Parents were Alexis St. Michel & Appoline Fugere-Champagne. I have further information on them. My Leclair cousins are having a big reunion here this summer & all are looking for the Leclair information. I thought I had the track with Joseph Leclerc & Marguerite Bouvier but I guess that is wrong. I can't seem to find a John & Marguerite who fit in. I've been trying for months Thanks for any help. Darlene T. Holling

Ni, The link work if you you make a copy of the whole thing (with the .pdf) and pasted it in the browser, it will download automatically. You just have to check your download and it will be there. http://<http://lplonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/American-Canadian-Marriages->lplonline.org<http://lplonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/American-Canadian-Marriages->/<http://lplonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/American-Canadian-Marriages->wp<http://lplonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/American-Canadian-Marriages->-content/uploads/2013/06/American-Canadian-Marriages-<http://lplonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/American-Canadian-Marriages-> 1599-1984.pdf Agnes On Jun 10, 2014 3:28 AM, quebec-research-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Plain digests are sent to users with all posts listed in one long email. For most subscribers, MIME digests will appear with all posts as individual attachments. The default digest delivery is Plain. If you want your digest in MIME, please write me directly at: Quebec-research-admin@rootsweb.com For the Quebec-Research web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm For the list archive, goto: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=quebec-research And we are on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ Today's Topics: 1. Some quebec marriages (Fred) 2. Parish Records (Lorie Begin) 3. FW: Some quebec marriages (Fred) 4. Re: Parish Records (Mona Andr?e Rainville) 5. Re: Parish Records (Al Poulin) 6. Funny Family Tree Videos (Renee Cummings) 7. Re: Parish Records (Mona Andr?e Rainville) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 08:16:00 -0400 From: "Fred" <unclefvp@verizon.net> Subject: [Q-R] Some quebec marriages To: "QR \(QR \)" <quebec-research-l@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <02df01cf83dc$942f5f10$bc8e1d30$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" http://lplonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/American-Canadian-Marriages- 1599-1984.pdf Regards, Unc ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 08:25:02 -0400 From: Lorie Begin <lbegin3@gmail.com> Subject: [Q-R] Parish Records To: QUEBEC-RESEARCH <Quebec-Research@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CAPUAcQu4-8vQ8fYm1s-HKD0c6yttMPiPskR9Ucc3__VcRdvKPQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Does anyone happen to know if it is still a practice, to forward copies, or the originals of parish records to the diocese involved? Lorie ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 10:17:58 -0400 From: "Fred" <unclefvp@verizon.net> Subject: [Q-R] FW: Some quebec marriages To: "QR \(QR \)" <quebec-research-l@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <02fb01cf83ed$9dbd2420$d9376c60$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" If you have trouble with the 1st post URL, try: http://tinyurl.com/nqnxajd Regards, Unc -----Original Message----- From: quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-research-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fred Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 8:16 AM To: QR (QR ) Subject: [Q-R] Some quebec marriages http://lplonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/American-Canadian-Marriages- 1599-1984.pdf Regards, Unc ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 10:53:16 -0400 From: Mona Andr?e Rainville <veeren@videotron.ca> Subject: Re: [Q-R] Parish Records To: quebec-research@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <5395CA5C.2000407@videotron.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed In Quebec, as far as Catholic parishes are concerned, it is. The recent diocese records are not available to the public. But, as you might already know, since 1994 religious records are no longer the legal records in Qu?bec. Births, deaths, and marriages and any other act relating to civil status, such as change of name, change of sex, adoption, etc., are now recorded by the civil authority known as the Directeur de l'?tat civil. http://www.etatcivil.gouv.qc.ca/en/default.html Mona On 14-06-09 8:25 AM, Lorie Begin wrote: > Does anyone happen to know if it is still a practice, to forward copies, or > the originals of parish records to the diocese involved? > > > Lorie ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 17:33:18 -0400 From: Al Poulin <alfred.poulin@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Q-R] Parish Records To: QUEBEC-RESEARCH@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <35134F2C-5E19-4FE0-A073-7D9E1D70E58B@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Actually, the extra copy did not go to the diocese. Each year, the parishes sent a second copy of their registers, known as the civil copy, to a palais de justice, or the Office of the Superior Court in the Judicial District in which the church existed. These pages are helpful: http://www.americanancestors.org/vital-records-in-quebec/ http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=1091 or rather in English: http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1091 Al Poulin On Jun 9, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Mona Andr?e Rainville wrote: > In Quebec, as far as Catholic parishes are concerned, it is. The recent > diocese records are not available to the public. > > But, as you might already know, since 1994 religious records are no > longer the legal records in Qu?bec. Births, deaths, and marriages and > any other act relating to civil status, such as change of name, change > of sex, adoption, etc., are now recorded by the civil authority known as > the Directeur de l'?tat civil. > > http://www.etatcivil.gouv.qc.ca/en/default.html > > Mona > > On 14-06-09 8:25 AM, Lorie Begin wrote: >> Does anyone happen to know if it is still a practice, to forward copies, or >> the originals of parish records to the diocese involved? >> >> >> Lorie > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 22:06:11 -0400 From: "Renee Cummings" <rcummi1123@rogers.com> Subject: [Q-R] Funny Family Tree Videos To: "'Genealogy Quebec'" <Quebec-Research@rootsweb.com> Cc: QUEBEC-L <QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <E0F6435D1F7B4E40BE2EECA05F166E33@reneePC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A friend came across this two videos that are rather amusing. Your Family Tree Explained http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM79Epw_cp8&feature=share Parallel and Cross Cousins Explained http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6ViKuXd5qQ <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6ViKuXd5qQ> Enjoy Renee ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 23:29:41 -0400 From: Mona Andr?e Rainville <veeren@videotron.ca> Subject: Re: [Q-R] Parish Records To: quebec-research@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <53967BA5.2010308@videotron.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Al, That was then. It is no longer the case. Lorie is asking about the current practice. Cheers, Mona On 14-06-09 5:33 PM, Al Poulin wrote: > Actually, the extra copy did not go to the diocese. Each year, the parishes sent a second copy of their registers, known as the civil copy, to a palais de justice, or the Office of the Superior Court in the Judicial District in which the church existed. > > These pages are helpful: > http://www.americanancestors.org/vital-records-in-quebec/ > http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=1091 > or rather in English: > http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1091 > > Al Poulin > > On Jun 9, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Mona Andr?e Rainville wrote: > >> In Quebec, as far as Catholic parishes are concerned, it is. The recent >> diocese records are not available to the public. >> >> But, as you might already know, since 1994 religious records are no >> longer the legal records in Qu?bec. Births, deaths, and marriages and >> any other act relating to civil status, such as change of name, change >> of sex, adoption, etc., are now recorded by the civil authority known as >> the Directeur de l'?tat civil. >> >> http://www.etatcivil.gouv.qc.ca/en/default.html >> >> Mona >> >> On 14-06-09 8:25 AM, Lorie Begin wrote: >>> Does anyone happen to know if it is still a practice, to forward copies, or >>> the originals of parish records to the diocese involved? >>> >>> >>> Lorie >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm >> And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ >> List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ To contact the QUEBEC-RESEARCH list administrator, send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-admin@rootsweb.com. 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To All: My Aunt married a Leclair. His Parents were Joseph Leclair & Sophie St. Michel. They were married in 1852 in MA-Worcester. It says his Parents are John & Margaret. When Joseph died in MI his children put Joseph as the Father of their Dad. Joseph was born in 1829 in Quebec. Joseph & Sophie were his Grandparents. They moved to New Hampshire at least they were there in 1870. Several of the children were born there. I can't find a John Leclerc & Marguerite who work out right. I found a Joseph Leclerc who married Marguerite Bouvier Sept. 12, 1820 at St. Ours. I found these children born to them there.Antoine in 1823-Ignace in 1827,, Jean Baptiste in 1825 Marie in 1830, Norbert in 1832, Judith in 1833. I have never found a Joseph born to them. However, I never find them again--Not on a 1851 Census or 1861. No children being married in Quebec. They were married under Leclerc--I used that--Leclair, Leclaire, Laclare LeClair & others. They all just disappeared. Joseph's wife Sophie St. Michel was found. Her Parents were Alexis St. Michel & Appoline Fugere-Champagne. I have further information on them. My Leclair cousins are having a big reunion here this summer & all are looking for the Leclair information. I thought I had the track with Joseph Leclerc & Marguerite Bouvier but I guess that is wrong. I can't seem to find a John & Marguerite who fit in. I've been trying for months Thanks for any help. Darlene T. Holling

Al, That was then. It is no longer the case. Lorie is asking about the current practice. Cheers, Mona On 14-06-09 5:33 PM, Al Poulin wrote: > Actually, the extra copy did not go to the diocese. Each year, the parishes sent a second copy of their registers, known as the civil copy, to a palais de justice, or the Office of the Superior Court in the Judicial District in which the church existed. > > These pages are helpful: > http://www.americanancestors.org/vital-records-in-quebec/ > http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=1091 > or rather in English: > http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1091 > > Al Poulin > > On Jun 9, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Mona Andrée Rainville wrote: > >> In Quebec, as far as Catholic parishes are concerned, it is. The recent >> diocese records are not available to the public. >> >> But, as you might already know, since 1994 religious records are no >> longer the legal records in Québec. Births, deaths, and marriages and >> any other act relating to civil status, such as change of name, change >> of sex, adoption, etc., are now recorded by the civil authority known as >> the Directeur de l'État civil. >> >> http://www.etatcivil.gouv.qc.ca/en/default.html >> >> Mona >> >> On 14-06-09 8:25 AM, Lorie Begin wrote: >>> Does anyone happen to know if it is still a practice, to forward copies, or >>> the originals of parish records to the diocese involved? >>> >>> >>> Lorie >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm >> And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ >> List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-RESEARCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >