Many towns and counties in New York have an historian Go on-line for Franklin County to see if Hogansburg has one. If so, that official ought to give you information regards churches. Forrest -----Original Message----- From: Andree Routledge [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 12:13 AM To: Quebec Research list Subject: [Q-R] Re: Hogansburg, NY Please share if you get a response, NY records are impossible to find, looking in same area. Andree Sent from my iPad > On Aug 15, 2018, at 10:25 PM, linp219--- via Quebec-Research <[email protected]> wrote: > > > What Catholic Churches were in Hogansburg, Franklin Co NY in > 1865? > > > Trying to find a marriage which reportedly took place there in March 1865. > > > TIA > Linie > > _______________________________________________ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/quebec-research > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/quebec-research Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

In Ancestry they have some Drouin records for the states found one in 1863 by a missionary priest (circut rider) better able to help if we could we have the names please ================================== Vincent Lafleche in the U.S., French Catholic Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1695-1954 Name: Vincent Lafleche Event: Mariage (Marriage) Marriage Year: 1843-1946 [1863] Marriage Place: Hogansburg; Registres de la paroisse and Missions and Forts, New York, USA Religion: Catholique Church Name: Hogansburg; Registres de la paroisse and Missions and Forts Spouse: Hermine Vandal -----Original Message----- From: Andree Routledge Please share if you get a response, NY records are impossible to find, looking in same area. Andree > On Aug 15, 2018, at 10:25 PM, linp219--- via Quebec-Research <[email protected]> wrote: What Catholic Churches were in Hogansburg, Franklin Co NY in1865? Trying to find a marriage which reportedly took place there in March 1865. TIA Linie

Please share if you get a response, NY records are impossible to find, looking in same area. Andree Sent from my iPad > On Aug 15, 2018, at 10:25 PM, linp219--- via Quebec-Research <[email protected]> wrote: > > > What Catholic Churches were in Hogansburg, Franklin Co NY in > 1865? > > > Trying to find a marriage which reportedly took place there in March 1865. > > > TIA > Linie > > _______________________________________________ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/quebec-research > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

What Catholic Churches were in Hogansburg, Franklin Co NY in 1865? Trying to find a marriage which reportedly took place there in March 1865. TIA Linie

Hi Linda, Sorry for the loss of your cousin. When you say familysearch has an error, are you talking about the family tree, or the actual records? Anyone can add to the family trees, so you want to look at the source of the information, and try to contact the person who entered it. and see if you can get a discussion going with them to straighten it out. If you have the actual records, then you can just change the tree, and post your records, and hope they will see the error of their ways. If they change it back, you can enlist the help of an administrator on that site to help you. The church could give dispensations for various reasons for people to marry, so if they got one it would be on their church marriage record. It's possible the state allowed first cousin marriages - according to this chart, Vermont is one of them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage_law_in_the_United_States_by_state You also want to be sure you have the people correctly listed in your tree. Is it possible that the aunt had a step parent, and maybe that's why she is showing as adopted? In other words, Aunt's mother married Aunt's father. They had the aunt and maybe some other children. Aunt's mother died and father remarried, so she is showing as adopted under the marriage of the Aunt's father and his new wife? I have a situation going on at familysearch like this. There is a person who changed the parents & names of my husband's grandmother and her siblings. Grandma's mother was married 2ce, so some of the children belong to one father and some to the other. The person who changed it first told me he didn't know anything about it. Then he said his wife did it. Now he won't answer my messages..... Good luck! Lisa [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Linda Benoit via Quebec-Research [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 8:16 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Linda Benoit Subject: [Q-R] Family search mistake Good morning list, Last week my great aunt's grandson died. While adding the obit & verifying my data (which was all obtained from family members) I discovered something that was upsetting to me when I was using family search. My great aunt & her husband where 1st cousins, (their mothers where sisters) on the Family Search site they have both my aunt & her husband listed as ADOPTED. Not true. I did always wonder how they married & continued life as Catholics & are buried in a Catholic cemetery here in Vermont. Has anyone ever seen this before? Is this someway of covering up a 1st cousin marriage? Thanks for reading, Linda _______________________________________________

Thanks Fran, you gave the best advice, I need to learn more about using Family Search!   Linda In a message dated 8/13/2018 11:25:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes:   Linda, you can change the information at family search - be sure to cite your sources. An alternative is to contact the contributor and ask them to change it Fran L Last week my great aunt's grandson died. While adding the obit & verifying my data (which was all obtained from family members) I discovered something that was upsetting to me when I was using family search. My great aunt & her husband where 1st cousins, (their mothers where sisters) on the Family Search site they have both my aunt & her husband listed as ADOPTED. Not true. I did always wonder how they married & continued life as Catholics & are buried in a Catholic cemetery here in Vermont. Has anyone ever seen this before? Is this someway of covering up a 1st cousin marriage? Thanks for reading, Linda _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/quebec-research Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

My guess they had a "traveling priest" at the time of this marriage (1916) because my aunt was 16 & married in Irasburg, VT where she was born. They still today only have 1 priest who covers 4-5 Catholic churches in this county, thus the lack of or lost records.   In a message dated 8/13/2018 12:36:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes:   Yes dispensations were allowed, but who had the months and "Donation(?)" to get it done. It was much easier to leave the bride's parish and find a priest who did not know the families. In Louisiana we had a justice of the peace just over the (civil) parish (ie county) line we check for "missing" marriages or married in the church after baptism of several children _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/quebec-research Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thank you to all who responded to my first cousin marriage question in the Catholic church and Family Search listing them as adopted. I am still working on the problem but will figure this out as I always do eventually. Been at this for years & this was the first I time I ran into anything like this.    Linda

Back in 1600-1800's especially marrying cousins was quite common even by various religions including Catholic religion. The reason is people did not travel very much nor did they have access to people outside of family. It was either marry cousins or not marry at all. Really common practice. Also people married into the two or 3 families that lived in a particular area. Everyone became a cousin very quickly. My grandfather Goyette married my grandmother Hinks. His two sisters (Goyette) married her two brothers (Hinks). Their children all became cousins & some of them married into each others family. BONNIE GREINER -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 8/13/18, dot hemingway via Quebec-Research <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: [Q-R] Re: Family search mistake To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Date: Monday, August 13, 2018, 8:31 AM Familysearch records still need to be verified like any other records online for accuracy since anyone can add info. You can check the "Latest Change Box" for all info that has been entered on them and contact the submitter if you want. Sometimes they will respond, sometimes no. If you have documentation of correct info feel free to change the info and explain why (like location, etc.)  If you are near a Family History Center they can help you learn how to detach them as adopted, etc.  Anyone can change info. I find it helpful if you check the Watch Box under the person's name and if anyone changes info you will be Sent an email. <div>Another section to check is the Research Help Box. If person is in U.S. it will match possible records for that person, and you can verify and if correct attach the info as a documented source. Hope this info is helpful. Dot Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -----Original Message----- From: Linda Benoit via Quebec-Research <[email protected]> To: quebec-research <[email protected]> Cc: Linda Benoit <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Aug 13, 2018 08:11 AM Subject: [Q-R] Re: Family search mistake Yes Betty, it has been going on for a long time, I have other close marriages in my research. My surprise was the family search site having the wrong information! Not to happy about it being recorded wrong & how they came to record them as adopted. I have their birth records. It is legal in Maine for 1st cousins to marry but not Vermont. Thanks for your 2 cents worth :>) Linda In a message dated 8/13/2018 9:57:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> writes: Linda, I worked with a woman who married her first cousin. Their fathers were brothers. They (Paul & Pauline) were married in Massachusetts in the early 1960's so I'm guessing it is allowed. Seems icky though. He was born and raised in Canada and she was born and raised in Massachusetts. They are still together today, had two son's and now five grandchildren. Also in my research one of my great grandfathers married (his 3rd wife) his neice, (his brother's daughter) and they had one daughter. I'm guessing it has been going on for centuries. Betty ----Original Message----- From: Linda Benoit via Quebec-Research [<a href="mailto:[email protected]?">mailto:[email protected]</a>] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 9:33 AM To: quebec-<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> Cc: Linda Benoit Subject: [Q-R] Re: Family search mistake Hi Helen, I thought you could not get a dispensation for 1st cousins unless under certain circumstances. My aunt was 16 at the time of the marriage & did not have her 1st child until 3 years after the marriage. Unfortunately the records for the Catholic church in Irasburg, Vermont, where they married are no where to be found. Thanks for the reply. Linda In a message dated 8/13/2018 9:20:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> writes: They could have got a dispensation from the priest that would allow them to get married. You'd have to look at the record of their marriage in the church register where they were married. Helen -----Original Message----- From: Linda Benoit via Quebec-Research [<a href="mailto:[email protected]?">mailto:[email protected]</a>] Sent: August-13-18 8:16 AM To: quebec-research-<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> Cc: Linda Benoit Subject: [Q-R] Family search mistake Good morning list, Last week my great aunt's grandson died. While adding the obit & verifying my data (which was all obtained from family members) I discovered something that was upsetting to me when I was using family search. My great aunt & her husband where 1st cousins, (their mothers where sisters) on the Family Search site they have both my aunt & her husband listed as ADOPTED. Not true. I did always wonder how they married & continued life as Catholics & are buried in a Catholic cemetery here in Vermont. Has anyone ever seen this before? Is this someway of covering up a 1st cousin marriage? 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My grandparents were ist cousins and I had a hell of a time finding my great grandmother as my grandfather had two  dif. names on two marriage certificates. The first was probably not in the church and the second was in the church. The second had the correct name and was with another woman.  Sounds like it may have been common practice. On 8/13/2018 8:15 AM, Linda Benoit via Quebec-Research wrote: > Good morning list, > > > Last week my great aunt's grandson died. While adding the obit & verifying my data (which was all obtained from family members) I discovered something that was upsetting to me when I was using family search. > > My great aunt & her husband where 1st cousins, (their mothers where sisters) on the Family Search site they have both my aunt & her husband listed as ADOPTED. Not true. I did always wonder how they married & continued life as Catholics & are buried in a Catholic cemetery here in Vermont. > > Has anyone ever seen this before? Is this someway of covering up a 1st cousin marriage? > > Thanks for reading, > Linda > > _______________________________________________ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/quebec-research > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Yes dispensations were allowed, but who had the months and "Donation(?)" to get it done. It was much easier to leave the bride's parish and find a priest who did not know the families. In Louisiana we had a justice of the peace just over the (civil) parish (ie county) line we check for "missing" marriages or married in the church after baptism of several children

Familysearch records still need to be verified like any other records online for accuracy since anyone can add info. You can check the "Latest Change Box" for all info that has been entered on them and contact the submitter if you want. Sometimes they will respond, sometimes no. If you have documentation of correct info feel free to change the info and explain why (like location, etc.) If you are near a Family History Center they can help you learn how to detach them as adopted, etc. Anyone can change info. I find it helpful if you check the Watch Box under the person's name and if anyone changes info you will be Sent an email. <div>Another section to check is the Research Help Box. If person is in U.S. it will match possible records for that person, and you can verify and if correct attach the info as a documented source. Hope this info is helpful. Dot Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -----Original Message----- From: Linda Benoit via Quebec-Research <[email protected]> To: quebec-research <[email protected]> Cc: Linda Benoit <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Aug 13, 2018 08:11 AM Subject: [Q-R] Re: Family search mistake Yes Betty, it has been going on for a long time, I have other close marriages in my research. My surprise was the family search site having the wrong information! Not to happy about it being recorded wrong & how they came to record them as adopted. I have their birth records. It is legal in Maine for 1st cousins to marry but not Vermont. Thanks for your 2 cents worth :>) Linda In a message dated 8/13/2018 9:57:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> writes: Linda, I worked with a woman who married her first cousin. Their fathers were brothers. They (Paul & Pauline) were married in Massachusetts in the early 1960's so I'm guessing it is allowed. Seems icky though. He was born and raised in Canada and she was born and raised in Massachusetts. They are still together today, had two son's and now five grandchildren. Also in my research one of my great grandfathers married (his 3rd wife) his neice, (his brother's daughter) and they had one daughter. I'm guessing it has been going on for centuries. Betty ----Original Message----- From: Linda Benoit via Quebec-Research [<a href="mailto:[email protected]?">mailto:[email protected]</a>] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 9:33 AM To: quebec-<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> Cc: Linda Benoit Subject: [Q-R] Re: Family search mistake Hi Helen, I thought you could not get a dispensation for 1st cousins unless under certain circumstances. My aunt was 16 at the time of the marriage & did not have her 1st child until 3 years after the marriage. Unfortunately the records for the Catholic church in Irasburg, Vermont, where they married are no where to be found. Thanks for the reply. Linda In a message dated 8/13/2018 9:20:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> writes: They could have got a dispensation from the priest that would allow them to get married. You'd have to look at the record of their marriage in the church register where they were married. Helen -----Original Message----- From: Linda Benoit via Quebec-Research [<a href="mailto:[email protected]?">mailto:[email protected]</a>] Sent: August-13-18 8:16 AM To: quebec-research-<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> Cc: Linda Benoit Subject: [Q-R] Family search mistake Good morning list, Last week my great aunt's grandson died. While adding the obit & verifying my data (which was all obtained from family members) I discovered something that was upsetting to me when I was using family search. My great aunt & her husband where 1st cousins, (their mothers where sisters) on the Family Search site they have both my aunt & her husband listed as ADOPTED. Not true. I did always wonder how they married & continued life as Catholics & are buried in a Catholic cemetery here in Vermont. Has anyone ever seen this before? Is this someway of covering up a 1st cousin marriage? 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Linda, you can change the information at family search - be sure to cite your sources. An alternative is to contact the contributor and ask them to change it Fran L Last week my great aunt's grandson died. While adding the obit & verifying my data (which was all obtained from family members) I discovered something that was upsetting to me when I was using family search. My great aunt & her husband where 1st cousins, (their mothers where sisters) on the Family Search site they have both my aunt & her husband listed as ADOPTED. Not true. I did always wonder how they married & continued life as Catholics & are buried in a Catholic cemetery here in Vermont. Has anyone ever seen this before? Is this someway of covering up a 1st cousin marriage? Thanks for reading, Linda

Yes Betty, it has been going on for a long time, I have other close marriages in my research. My surprise was the family search site having the wrong information! Not to happy about it being recorded wrong & how they came to record them as adopted. I have their birth records. It is legal in Maine for 1st cousins to marry but not Vermont.   Thanks for your 2 cents worth :>) Linda   In a message dated 8/13/2018 9:57:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes:   Linda, I worked with a woman who married her first cousin. Their fathers were brothers. They (Paul & Pauline) were married in Massachusetts in the early 1960's so I'm guessing it is allowed. Seems icky though. He was born and raised in Canada and she was born and raised in Massachusetts. They are still together today, had two son's and now five grandchildren. Also in my research one of my great grandfathers married (his 3rd wife) his neice, (his brother's daughter) and they had one daughter. I'm guessing it has been going on for centuries. Betty ----Original Message----- From: Linda Benoit via Quebec-Research [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 9:33 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Linda Benoit Subject: [Q-R] Re: Family search mistake Hi Helen, I thought you could not get a dispensation for 1st cousins unless under certain circumstances. My aunt was 16 at the time of the marriage & did not have her 1st child until 3 years after the marriage. Unfortunately the records for the Catholic church in Irasburg, Vermont, where they married are no where to be found. Thanks for the reply. Linda In a message dated 8/13/2018 9:20:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: They could have got a dispensation from the priest that would allow them to get married. You'd have to look at the record of their marriage in the church register where they were married. Helen -----Original Message----- From: Linda Benoit via Quebec-Research [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: August-13-18 8:16 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Linda Benoit Subject: [Q-R] Family search mistake Good morning list, Last week my great aunt's grandson died. While adding the obit & verifying my data (which was all obtained from family members) I discovered something that was upsetting to me when I was using family search. My great aunt & her husband where 1st cousins, (their mothers where sisters) on the Family Search site they have both my aunt & her husband listed as ADOPTED. Not true. I did always wonder how they married & continued life as Catholics & are buried in a Catholic cemetery here in Vermont. Has anyone ever seen this before? Is this someway of covering up a 1st cousin marriage? 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Have you been able to find a baptism for her or him then? What was the source that they were both adopted? If this info just came from a family contribution, without a source, it may be wrong. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Benoit via Quebec-Research [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: August-13-18 9:33 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Linda Benoit Subject: [Q-R] Re: Family search mistake Hi Helen, I thought you could not get a dispensation for 1st cousins unless under certain circumstances. My aunt was 16 at the time of the marriage & did not have her 1st child until 3 years after the marriage. Unfortunately the records for the Catholic church in Irasburg, Vermont, where they married are no where to be found. Thanks for the reply. Linda In a message dated 8/13/2018 9:20:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: They could have got a dispensation from the priest that would allow them to get married. You'd have to look at the record of their marriage in the church register where they were married. Helen -----Original Message----- From: Linda Benoit via Quebec-Research [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: August-13-18 8:16 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Linda Benoit Subject: [Q-R] Family search mistake Good morning list, Last week my great aunt's grandson died. While adding the obit & verifying my data (which was all obtained from family members) I discovered something that was upsetting to me when I was using family search. My great aunt & her husband where 1st cousins, (their mothers where sisters) on the Family Search site they have both my aunt & her husband listed as ADOPTED. Not true. I did always wonder how they married & continued life as Catholics & are buried in a Catholic cemetery here in Vermont. Has anyone ever seen this before? Is this someway of covering up a 1st cousin marriage? Thanks for reading, Linda _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/quebec-research Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/quebec-research Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/quebec-research Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Linda, I worked with a woman who married her first cousin. Their fathers were brothers. They (Paul & Pauline) were married in Massachusetts in the early 1960's so I'm guessing it is allowed. Seems icky though. He was born and raised in Canada and she was born and raised in Massachusetts. They are still together today, had two son's and now five grandchildren. Also in my research one of my great grandfathers married (his 3rd wife) his neice, (his brother's daughter) and they had one daughter. I'm guessing it has been going on for centuries. Betty ----Original Message----- From: Linda Benoit via Quebec-Research [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 9:33 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Linda Benoit Subject: [Q-R] Re: Family search mistake Hi Helen, I thought you could not get a dispensation for 1st cousins unless under certain circumstances. My aunt was 16 at the time of the marriage & did not have her 1st child until 3 years after the marriage. Unfortunately the records for the Catholic church in Irasburg, Vermont, where they married are no where to be found. Thanks for the reply. Linda In a message dated 8/13/2018 9:20:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: They could have got a dispensation from the priest that would allow them to get married. You'd have to look at the record of their marriage in the church register where they were married. Helen -----Original Message----- From: Linda Benoit via Quebec-Research [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: August-13-18 8:16 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Linda Benoit Subject: [Q-R] Family search mistake Good morning list, Last week my great aunt's grandson died. While adding the obit & verifying my data (which was all obtained from family members) I discovered something that was upsetting to me when I was using family search. My great aunt & her husband where 1st cousins, (their mothers where sisters) on the Family Search site they have both my aunt & her husband listed as ADOPTED. Not true. I did always wonder how they married & continued life as Catholics & are buried in a Catholic cemetery here in Vermont. Has anyone ever seen this before? Is this someway of covering up a 1st cousin marriage? Thanks for reading, Linda _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/quebec-research Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/quebec-research Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/quebec-research Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Helen,   I thought you could not get a dispensation for 1st cousins unless under certain circumstances. My aunt was 16 at the time of the marriage & did not have her 1st child until 3 years after the marriage. Unfortunately the records for the Catholic church in Irasburg, Vermont, where they married are no where to be found.   Thanks for the reply. Linda   In a message dated 8/13/2018 9:20:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes:   They could have got a dispensation from the priest that would allow them to get married. You'd have to look at the record of their marriage in the church register where they were married. Helen -----Original Message----- From: Linda Benoit via Quebec-Research [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: August-13-18 8:16 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Linda Benoit Subject: [Q-R] Family search mistake Good morning list, Last week my great aunt's grandson died. While adding the obit & verifying my data (which was all obtained from family members) I discovered something that was upsetting to me when I was using family search. My great aunt & her husband where 1st cousins, (their mothers where sisters) on the Family Search site they have both my aunt & her husband listed as ADOPTED. Not true. I did always wonder how they married & continued life as Catholics & are buried in a Catholic cemetery here in Vermont. Has anyone ever seen this before? Is this someway of covering up a 1st cousin marriage? Thanks for reading, Linda _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/quebec-research Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/quebec-research Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

They could have got a dispensation from the priest that would allow them to get married. You'd have to look at the record of their marriage in the church register where they were married. Helen -----Original Message----- From: Linda Benoit via Quebec-Research [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: August-13-18 8:16 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Linda Benoit Subject: [Q-R] Family search mistake Good morning list, Last week my great aunt's grandson died. While adding the obit & verifying my data (which was all obtained from family members) I discovered something that was upsetting to me when I was using family search. My great aunt & her husband where 1st cousins, (their mothers where sisters) on the Family Search site they have both my aunt & her husband listed as ADOPTED. Not true. I did always wonder how they married & continued life as Catholics & are buried in a Catholic cemetery here in Vermont. Has anyone ever seen this before? Is this someway of covering up a 1st cousin marriage? Thanks for reading, Linda _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/quebec-research Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Good morning list, Last week my great aunt's grandson died. While adding the obit & verifying my data (which was all obtained from family members) I discovered something that was upsetting to me when I was using family search.   My great aunt & her husband where 1st cousins, (their mothers where sisters) on the Family Search site they have both my aunt & her husband listed as ADOPTED. Not true. I did always wonder how they married & continued life as Catholics & are buried in a Catholic cemetery here in Vermont.   Has anyone ever seen this before? Is this someway of covering up a 1st cousin marriage?    Thanks for reading, Linda

For those that do not access to an ancestry account, the Ontario catholic parish records are also available without cost (you just have to register at the site) at FamilySearch: https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index?owc=https://www.familysearch.org/service/cds/recapi/sord/collection/1927566/waypoints Like the Quebec records they are organized by county, community within county, and parish within community. Also worth being aware that if your ancestors were in the Ottawa area they may have been across the river in Quebec - and may have had children baptized in various parishes - in both Ontario and Quebec (or more accurately, by traveling priests who came from various parishes - so the records will be in the parish to whichever the priest was attached). I found this to be true of my long elusive Irish ancestors. On Thursday, August 9, 2018, 6:20:25 AM MST, Kelly Townsend via Quebec-Research <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Linnie       My world ancestry account has access to Ontario parish records both catholic and other religions.  Do you have access to ancestry?  If not you can use my account Love ya Kelly Sent from my iPad > On Aug 2, 2018, at 19:51, linp219--- via Quebec-Research <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Looking for the marriage of > > > Pierre MAHEU & Philomene PILON c. 1840 > possibly in Ottawa if anyone has resources for that province. > > > TIA, > Linnie > > _______________________________________________ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ > List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/quebec-research > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/QRlist/ List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/quebec-research Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community