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    1. [Q-R] Re: 'Tarontos Lac': Geographer finds oldest known reference to Toronto on 340-year-old French map | CBC News

    3. Very interesting.  Thank you Renee -----Original Message----- From: Renee Cummings <[email protected]> To: 'Quebec Research list' <[email protected]>; quebec <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Oct 14, 2018 4:26 pm Subject: [Q-R] 'Tarontos Lac': Geographer finds oldest known reference to Toronto on 340-year-old French map | CBC News For those interested, a little bit of history:) 'Tarontos Lac': Geographer finds oldest known reference to Toronto on 340-year-old French map Rick Laprairie got the surprise of his life when he examined a 1678 French map of Ontario 'I almost fell off my chair'......... https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.cbc.ca_news_canada_toronto_toronto-2Dmap-2Dtarontos-2Dlake-2Dsimcoe-2Dhist&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=zQ9i25pGzMuK8kyZ9hPpJqVCFo7GDIQ6Y-hobXb_gMg&s=JSohKsKq6URqOJxfTmthDLf2sCSt9sXZnDAM2bKVHVQ&e= ory-1.4861342 _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_groups_QRlist_&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=MoHFZlg0lXU_lqJ7Kq2EJ0EwnpXKmWdmaCcZIed6LN8&s=CDgAH7K6NpQrC3XkVghEUxUIUcZM6hIKAsWe1Xkmm4Q&e= List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=MoHFZlg0lXU_lqJ7Kq2EJ0EwnpXKmWdmaCcZIed6LN8&s=lIchtPEvPavX10EmwLMY9OM514_HwYHLqLfOBEt2Lgw&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=MoHFZlg0lXU_lqJ7Kq2EJ0EwnpXKmWdmaCcZIed6LN8&s=8oWRn9rD-oXXX1X6tOiLnJesybJtEoGW5uPkhl9br88&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=MoHFZlg0lXU_lqJ7Kq2EJ0EwnpXKmWdmaCcZIed6LN8&s=tsKoHjfjXeXooYj65QYUurNAvjBxW0DOPtV6pQN59lE&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    10/14/2018 02:57:50
    1. [Q-R] 'Tarontos Lac': Geographer finds oldest known reference to Toronto on 340-year-old French map | CBC News
    2. Renee Cummings

    3. For those interested, a little bit of history:) 'Tarontos Lac': Geographer finds oldest known reference to Toronto on 340-year-old French map Rick Laprairie got the surprise of his life when he examined a 1678 French map of Ontario 'I almost fell off my chair'......... https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.cbc.ca_news_canada_toronto_toronto-2Dmap-2Dtarontos-2Dlake-2Dsimcoe-2Dhist&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=zQ9i25pGzMuK8kyZ9hPpJqVCFo7GDIQ6Y-hobXb_gMg&s=JSohKsKq6URqOJxfTmthDLf2sCSt9sXZnDAM2bKVHVQ&e= ory-1.4861342

    10/14/2018 02:26:26
    1. [Q-R] Re: To all my Canadian cousins

    3. I know, same here next month on our Thanksgiving, but it is all so delicious and with family, so very worth it. Take care and keep in touch. Linnie -----Original Message----- From: Renee Cummings <[email protected]> To: 'Quebec Research list' <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Oct 8, 2018 8:41 pm Subject: [Q-R] Re: To all my Canadian cousins Thank you Linnie We all eat too much on that day.:) -----Original Message----- From: linp219--- via Quebec-Research [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: October-07-18 11:13 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: [Q-R] To all my Canadian cousins HAPPY THANKSGIVING Enjoy your day and don't eat too much. Linnie _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_groups_QRlist_&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=EFHSapA9fodKG1DteTjRZwbHS2c5hp7Aw_B1mF5cI68&s=vdtgQodtWKeKDMhlz_mqbS-D--4bJEGOA1dHXU-3kbI&e= List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=EFHSapA9fodKG1DteTjRZwbHS2c5hp7Aw_B1mF5cI68&s=l8ZulsXnX9eH9FddKqk0oocSHBptCmyFYV02klF-3eg&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=EFHSapA9fodKG1DteTjRZwbHS2c5hp7Aw_B1mF5cI68&s=HumyAIh-wK6FdhizS-NkpNN5YOmDmafTpBIl2nSSoU0&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=EFHSapA9fodKG1DteTjRZwbHS2c5hp7Aw_B1mF5cI68&s=yWmeOsC6JLNONefChKmcj4fUtrAl8iaATzY2Afn9f4o&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_groups_QRlist_&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=C0DZAUbUUWi5AOCT7IGiEo_yBrGmcDlVZt7nSkj6-BQ&s=JIIuLI9G3WfFkugqAR4r9K_YZj6GfLkgcdFvYeD76gE&e= List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=C0DZAUbUUWi5AOCT7IGiEo_yBrGmcDlVZt7nSkj6-BQ&s=gA889kv-PwQ0jbnwdsGAYEjiGJUD1ivTkxuyb7DeNTc&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=C0DZAUbUUWi5AOCT7IGiEo_yBrGmcDlVZt7nSkj6-BQ&s=GbS-LM2zSc7GcnrWr_48Aa17PDSWwHR9McoOQaoigvI&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=C0DZAUbUUWi5AOCT7IGiEo_yBrGmcDlVZt7nSkj6-BQ&s=cxgDSEfOIqdofxuztphArt0FquEylooDP3dFCxxGgIA&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    10/08/2018 06:42:55
    1. [Q-R] Re: To all my Canadian cousins
    2. Renee Cummings

    3. Thank you Linnie We all eat too much on that day.:) -----Original Message----- From: linp219--- via Quebec-Research [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: October-07-18 11:13 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: [Q-R] To all my Canadian cousins HAPPY THANKSGIVING Enjoy your day and don't eat too much. Linnie _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_groups_QRlist_&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=EFHSapA9fodKG1DteTjRZwbHS2c5hp7Aw_B1mF5cI68&s=vdtgQodtWKeKDMhlz_mqbS-D--4bJEGOA1dHXU-3kbI&e= List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=EFHSapA9fodKG1DteTjRZwbHS2c5hp7Aw_B1mF5cI68&s=l8ZulsXnX9eH9FddKqk0oocSHBptCmyFYV02klF-3eg&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=EFHSapA9fodKG1DteTjRZwbHS2c5hp7Aw_B1mF5cI68&s=HumyAIh-wK6FdhizS-NkpNN5YOmDmafTpBIl2nSSoU0&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=EFHSapA9fodKG1DteTjRZwbHS2c5hp7Aw_B1mF5cI68&s=yWmeOsC6JLNONefChKmcj4fUtrAl8iaATzY2Afn9f4o&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    10/08/2018 06:36:50
    1. [Q-R] Re: To all my Canadian cousins
    2. Ernie Turner

    3. If you change the search to 1870 to 1880 that will correct my error. Again, sorry. Ernie.....Ontario.....Canada ________________________________ From: Ernie Turner <[email protected]> Sent: October 8, 2018 4:46 PM To: Quebec Research list Subject: [Q-R] Re: To all my Canadian cousins Oh boy! Just finished mowing the lawn and 1 beer. What are 100 years? Everything I guess. Sorry, everybody. My mistake. Ernie.....Ontario.....Canada ________________________________ From: Forest Manning <[email protected]> Sent: October 8, 2018 4:42 PM To: 'Quebec Research list' Subject: [Q-R] Re: To all my Canadian cousins Ernie- I think you will find that the query was for 4 November 1877. Forrest -----Original Message----- From: Ernie Turner [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 4:33 PM To: Quebec Research list Subject: [Q-R] Re: To all my Canadian cousins In FamilySearch, I entered John William Storring, born between 1770 and 1780, location Napanee and had 52 hits, many in Eastern Ontario. You will need more info such as the name of wife or children or possibly date of marriage or death. Napanee is in Southeastern Ontario in Lennox and Addington County on the St.Lawrence River. Ernie.....Ontario.....Canada ________________________________ From: WAYNE LAVERDURE <[email protected]> Sent: October 8, 2018 12:35 PM To: Quebec Research list Subject: [Q-R] Re: To all my Canadian cousins Looking for the parents of John William Stahering /Storring/storing born 04 of November 1877 Napanee Ontario On 10/07/18, linp219--- via Quebec-Research <[email protected]> wrote: > > HAPPY THANKSGIVING > Enjoy your day and don't > eat too much. > > > Linnie > > _______________________________________________ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_groups _QRlist_&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGM NMIjiNe9IYZM&m=M1vEBhkNogb-144TfxrHcQK7NiYEvXXTHMo7LqHM6Js&s=0Br2SBIZKIKgSpw T4wP87NHLmevCn6bysVgjrgmlqS8&e= > List Archives are at: 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    10/08/2018 02:49:47
    1. [Q-R] Re: To all my Canadian cousins
    2. Ernie Turner

    3. Oh boy! Just finished mowing the lawn and 1 beer. What are 100 years? Everything I guess. Sorry, everybody. My mistake. Ernie.....Ontario.....Canada ________________________________ From: Forest Manning <[email protected]> Sent: October 8, 2018 4:42 PM To: 'Quebec Research list' Subject: [Q-R] Re: To all my Canadian cousins Ernie- I think you will find that the query was for 4 November 1877. Forrest -----Original Message----- From: Ernie Turner [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 4:33 PM To: Quebec Research list Subject: [Q-R] Re: To all my Canadian cousins In FamilySearch, I entered John William Storring, born between 1770 and 1780, location Napanee and had 52 hits, many in Eastern Ontario. You will need more info such as the name of wife or children or possibly date of marriage or death. Napanee is in Southeastern Ontario in Lennox and Addington County on the St.Lawrence River. 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    10/08/2018 02:46:51
    1. [Q-R] Re: To all my Canadian cousins
    2. Forest Manning

    3. Ernie- I think you will find that the query was for 4 November 1877. Forrest -----Original Message----- From: Ernie Turner [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 4:33 PM To: Quebec Research list Subject: [Q-R] Re: To all my Canadian cousins In FamilySearch, I entered John William Storring, born between 1770 and 1780, location Napanee and had 52 hits, many in Eastern Ontario. You will need more info such as the name of wife or children or possibly date of marriage or death. Napanee is in Southeastern Ontario in Lennox and Addington County on the St.Lawrence River. 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    10/08/2018 02:42:32
    1. [Q-R] Re: To all my Canadian cousins
    2. Ernie Turner

    3. In FamilySearch, I entered John William Storring, born between 1770 and 1780, location Napanee and had 52 hits, many in Eastern Ontario. You will need more info such as the name of wife or children or possibly date of marriage or death. Napanee is in Southeastern Ontario in Lennox and Addington County on the St.Lawrence River. Ernie.....Ontario.....Canada ________________________________ From: WAYNE LAVERDURE <[email protected]> Sent: October 8, 2018 12:35 PM To: Quebec Research list Subject: [Q-R] Re: To all my Canadian cousins Looking for the parents of John William Stahering /Storring/storing born 04 of November 1877 Napanee Ontario On 10/07/18, linp219--- via Quebec-Research <[email protected]> wrote: > > HAPPY THANKSGIVING > Enjoy your day and don't > eat too much. > > > Linnie > > _______________________________________________ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_groups_QRlist_&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=M1vEBhkNogb-144TfxrHcQK7NiYEvXXTHMo7LqHM6Js&s=0Br2SBIZKIKgSpwT4wP87NHLmevCn6bysVgjrgmlqS8&e= > List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=M1vEBhkNogb-144TfxrHcQK7NiYEvXXTHMo7LqHM6Js&s=II73yQdkQf6BeTyULIM4PYlkpm9Auk6otfDYo41vcL8&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=M1vEBhkNogb-144TfxrHcQK7NiYEvXXTHMo7LqHM6Js&s=J7dKBjGzLujObsVnQSukv05aPSfM30jXjoC8mo7aMq0&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=M1vEBhkNogb-144TfxrHcQK7NiYEvXXTHMo7LqHM6Js&s=hrPi5zL8zqJjK3EFku0X5UwTQ-Um2b7dL9Qx5ytQr8I&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_groups_QRlist_&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=c9su7GzbA4dGqKAU61TXN2YS3WJyFzoqVy54-vhpR2k&s=9aJ7vlm7JAV-_EcHgWgFNp07t2S4sg74Z1LDyddgbLU&e= List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=c9su7GzbA4dGqKAU61TXN2YS3WJyFzoqVy54-vhpR2k&s=r0JZl_loLXYXLsAVd9EJ3CzuGnH_4wg4ryQaVm-5y1g&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=c9su7GzbA4dGqKAU61TXN2YS3WJyFzoqVy54-vhpR2k&s=IQ8_0IDpyPrGB0lT8UeAS5qZHyMQn-X3ysCGozcTHCI&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=c9su7GzbA4dGqKAU61TXN2YS3WJyFzoqVy54-vhpR2k&s=Jz7QQIk-Z_cZGWcPnOOsQT8JMVMmLEKbzt60HUcetUo&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    10/08/2018 02:32:57
    1. [Q-R] Re: To all my Canadian cousins
    2. franalm

    3. Perhaps a little more info might be helpful - if you have any. How do you know this is his birthdate and place? He does not show up in the Ontario birth register index, nor does he show up in the St. Patrick Catholic church register for that date (or the subsequent 2 years). I'm assuming since you posted this to the Quebec research list that the family was Catholic - that may not be an accurate assumption, in which case it would be helpful to know what you posted to this site in searching for his parents. He is not showing up in the 1881 or 1891 census records. GO LEAFS, GO On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:35:48 AM MST, WAYNE LAVERDURE <[email protected]> wrote: Looking for the parents of John William Stahering /Storring/storing born 04 of November 1877 Napanee Ontario On 10/07/18, linp219--- via Quebec-Research  <[email protected]> wrote: > > HAPPY THANKSGIVING > Enjoy your day and don't > eat too much. > > > Linnie > > _______________________________________________ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_groups_QRlist_&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=M1vEBhkNogb-144TfxrHcQK7NiYEvXXTHMo7LqHM6Js&s=0Br2SBIZKIKgSpwT4wP87NHLmevCn6bysVgjrgmlqS8&e= > List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=M1vEBhkNogb-144TfxrHcQK7NiYEvXXTHMo7LqHM6Js&s=II73yQdkQf6BeTyULIM4PYlkpm9Auk6otfDYo41vcL8&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=M1vEBhkNogb-144TfxrHcQK7NiYEvXXTHMo7LqHM6Js&s=J7dKBjGzLujObsVnQSukv05aPSfM30jXjoC8mo7aMq0&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=M1vEBhkNogb-144TfxrHcQK7NiYEvXXTHMo7LqHM6Js&s=hrPi5zL8zqJjK3EFku0X5UwTQ-Um2b7dL9Qx5ytQr8I&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_groups_QRlist_&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=KcMa676xp5u7d8ihVM8CFat5SsezORmnf8TtkwJ5S8Y&s=MYabmcAWhZVfF1zWjK42oQwMe4ttBmtWsTNcVJrN8p8&e= List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=KcMa676xp5u7d8ihVM8CFat5SsezORmnf8TtkwJ5S8Y&s=8j2h7rjVC-EykiP6rXi9urhS-iusduIlF6fJPIJyw-Q&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=KcMa676xp5u7d8ihVM8CFat5SsezORmnf8TtkwJ5S8Y&s=0clIoaVzKwnZzyvs1VFqnFvrkgT7XaXzwunCPNBSFbg&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=KcMa676xp5u7d8ihVM8CFat5SsezORmnf8TtkwJ5S8Y&s=FNHHbkRF7E-MAbMiUV80t1Pl3GZkKKhxFVoMPP5t7sg&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    10/08/2018 12:34:42
    1. [Q-R] Re: To all my Canadian cousins
    2. WAYNE LAVERDURE

    3. Looking for the parents of John William Stahering /Storring/storing born 04 of November 1877 Napanee Ontario On 10/07/18, linp219--- via Quebec-Research <[email protected]> wrote: > > HAPPY THANKSGIVING > Enjoy your day and don't > eat too much. > > > Linnie > > _______________________________________________ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > And we are on facebook at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_groups_QRlist_&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=M1vEBhkNogb-144TfxrHcQK7NiYEvXXTHMo7LqHM6Js&s=0Br2SBIZKIKgSpwT4wP87NHLmevCn6bysVgjrgmlqS8&e= > List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=M1vEBhkNogb-144TfxrHcQK7NiYEvXXTHMo7LqHM6Js&s=II73yQdkQf6BeTyULIM4PYlkpm9Auk6otfDYo41vcL8&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=M1vEBhkNogb-144TfxrHcQK7NiYEvXXTHMo7LqHM6Js&s=J7dKBjGzLujObsVnQSukv05aPSfM30jXjoC8mo7aMq0&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=M1vEBhkNogb-144TfxrHcQK7NiYEvXXTHMo7LqHM6Js&s=hrPi5zL8zqJjK3EFku0X5UwTQ-Um2b7dL9Qx5ytQr8I&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > >

    10/08/2018 10:35:03
    1. [Q-R] The wrong Jean Nicolet

    3. Thank you, Frances and Renee, for straightening out my brain. There are so many ancestors, there are bound to be duplicate names totally unrelated. I'll try harder to keep them separate! Patricia

    10/08/2018 06:21:03
    1. [Q-R] To all my Canadian cousins

    3. HAPPY THANKSGIVING Enjoy your day and don't eat too much. Linnie

    10/07/2018 09:13:17
    1. [Q-R] Re: Quebec-Research Digest, Vol 13, Issue 174
    2. Renee Cummings

    3. Adrien Dabancour dit Lacaille,was the father-in-law of Jean Joliet and not Nicolet -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: October-06-18 2:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Q-R] Re: Quebec-Research Digest, Vol 13, Issue 174 I have been doing some new research on Rene Maheu who married my 8th great-grandmother Jeanne Garnier/Gresnier abt 1635-1703 in 1657, and discovered there are a whole bunch of early settlers named Rene Maheu. So I set out to find if any were related. In a book titled "Searching Through the Old Records of New France" by Cyprien Tanguay, a translation by armand H. Demers, Jr. and found the following on page 35: "1646 October 12th   A marriage contract was drawn up between Nicholas Macard and marguerite Couillard, the widow of Jean Nicolet and daughter of Guillaume Couillard. Friends and witnesses were: MM. De Montmagny, Gouveneur, René and Louis Maheu, cousins of the bride. The actual ceremony was celebrated on the 10th of November in the Church of Québec.   (Québec Register)" I couldn't find a Louis Maheu in my tree so began a search, first through the above book, where I found on page 32:  "1641, May 26th, The Burial of Adrien Dabancour dit Lacaille, the father-in-law of Jean Nicolet. He and his companion, Etienne Sevestre, had drowned on the 2nd of May in 1640 while hunting on the Iles-de-Bellechasse opposite Berthier. On the 20th of May in 1641, Jean Nicolet found his father-in-law's remains[10] and brought them to Quebec where they were solemnly buried in the Quebec cemetery. (Notre-Dame de Quebec Registers). [10] The location of Lacaille's remains was named after him--Lacaille's Point -- but is now know as Saint-Thomas-de-Montmagny. " and on page 33: "1642 November 3rd  The first marriage of a Frenchman to an Indian woman to be blessed by the Church was celebrated in Québec. The husband was Martin Prévost and his wife was Marie-Olivier (Manitouabéwich) [a Huron Indian with Sylvestre as her family name]. He became a widower in 1665 [the 10th of September] and married Marie Dabancour, the widow of Godfroy Guillot and sister of Mme. Jean Nicolet on the 8th of November of that same year. (Québec Register)" Never having heard of Dabancour dit Lecaille, I started researching through Jetté and found neither name, so went to Martin Prévost, just for the heck of it. Hmm. He first married Marie-Olivier Sylvestre, but after her death remarried to Marie (d') Abancourt. So who in tarnation is the father-in-law of Jean Nicolet? Was his Indian wife really the sister of Prévost's first wife? If so, Jean's first wife's father would be Roch Manitouabéouich, right? So not the father-in-law buried in 1641. And since Jean never married Marie (d') Abancourt,. not Adrien. All this is supposed to have come from newspapers printed at the time of the events, so one might think the reportage fairly accurate? Any thoughts? Patricia in SW Florida

    10/07/2018 07:53:25
    1. [Q-R] Re: Quebec-Research Digest, Vol 13, Issue 174
    2. Renee Cummings

    3. Marie Davencourt married 3 times #333 1639-10-09 Québec (Notre-Dame-de-Québec) JOLIET JEAN & DABANCOUR LACAILLE MARIE #689 1651-10-19 Québec (Notre-Dame-de-Québec) GUILLOT LAVALLEE & GEOFFROY DABANCOUR LACAILLE MARIE #1969 1665-11-08 Québec (Notre-Dame-de-Québec) PROVOST PREVOST MARTIN & DABANCOUR LACAILLE MARIE Notice her first marriage was to Jean Joliet not Nicolet no parents were mentioned Jean Joliet Jean Nicolet was a witness at that marriage Renee -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: October-06-18 2:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Q-R] Re: Quebec-Research Digest, Vol 13, Issue 174 I have been doing some new research on Rene Maheu who married my 8th great-grandmother Jeanne Garnier/Gresnier abt 1635-1703 in 1657, and discovered there are a whole bunch of early settlers named Rene Maheu. So I set out to find if any were related. In a book titled "Searching Through the Old Records of New France" by Cyprien Tanguay, a translation by armand H. Demers, Jr. and found the following on page 35: "1646 October 12th   A marriage contract was drawn up between Nicholas Macard and marguerite Couillard, the widow of Jean Nicolet and daughter of Guillaume Couillard. Friends and witnesses were: MM. De Montmagny, Gouveneur, René and Louis Maheu, cousins of the bride. The actual ceremony was celebrated on the 10th of November in the Church of Québec.   (Québec Register)" I couldn't find a Louis Maheu in my tree so began a search, first through the above book, where I found on page 32:  "1641, May 26th, The Burial of Adrien Dabancour dit Lacaille, the father-in-law of Jean Nicolet. He and his companion, Etienne Sevestre, had drowned on the 2nd of May in 1640 while hunting on the Iles-de-Bellechasse opposite Berthier. On the 20th of May in 1641, Jean Nicolet found his father-in-law's remains[10] and brought them to Quebec where they were solemnly buried in the Quebec cemetery. (Notre-Dame de Quebec Registers). [10] The location of Lacaille's remains was named after him--Lacaille's Point -- but is now know as Saint-Thomas-de-Montmagny. " and on page 33: "1642 November 3rd  The first marriage of a Frenchman to an Indian woman to be blessed by the Church was celebrated in Québec. The husband was Martin Prévost and his wife was Marie-Olivier (Manitouabéwich) [a Huron Indian with Sylvestre as her family name]. He became a widower in 1665 [the 10th of September] and married Marie Dabancour, the widow of Godfroy Guillot and sister of Mme. Jean Nicolet on the 8th of November of that same year. (Québec Register)" Never having heard of Dabancour dit Lecaille, I started researching through Jetté and found neither name, so went to Martin Prévost, just for the heck of it. Hmm. He first married Marie-Olivier Sylvestre, but after her death remarried to Marie (d') Abancourt. So who in tarnation is the father-in-law of Jean Nicolet? Was his Indian wife really the sister of Prévost's first wife? If so, Jean's first wife's father would be Roch Manitouabéouich, right? So not the father-in-law buried in 1641. And since Jean never married Marie (d') Abancourt,. not Adrien. All this is supposed to have come from newspapers printed at the time of the events, so one might think the reportage fairly accurate? Any thoughts? Patricia in SW Florida _

    10/07/2018 07:26:41
    1. [Q-R] Re: Quebec-Research Digest, Vol 13, Issue 174
    2. Frances LaChance

    3. Patricia: Two different Jean Nicolets Jean Nicolet who married Marguerite Coillard was the son of Thomas Nicolet and Marguerite Delamer (d: 29 Oct 1642) ``````````````````````````````````````````` Marie Dabancour dit Lacaille d/o Adrien Dabancour dit Lacaille & Simone Dorgeville dit Horville m 1st: 09 Ocr 1939 at Quebec, Notre Dame parish Jean Nicolet born about 1596 Sezanne-en-brie, Champagne, Epernay-Marne, France died: 24 Apr 1651 bur 25 Apr - same parish M2: Geofrroy GUILLOT dit LAVALLEE 19 oCT 1651 SAME PARISH M3: Martin Prevost 08 Nov 1665, same parish `````````````````````````````````````` My husband is descended from both Jean Nicolets. all data resourced by parish registers. Fran L On 06/10/18 2:35 PM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote: I have been doing some new research on Rene Maheu who married my 8th great-grandmother Jeanne Garnier/Gresnier abt 1635-1703 in 1657, and discovered there are a whole bunch of early settlers named Rene Maheu. So I set out to find if any were related. In a book titled "Searching Through the Old Records of New France" by Cyprien Tanguay, a translation by armand H. Demers, Jr. and found the following on page 35: "1646 October 12th A marriage contract was drawn up between Nicholas Macard and marguerite Couillard, the widow of Jean Nicolet and daughter of Guillaume Couillard. Friends and witnesses were: MM. De Montmagny, Gouveneur, René and Louis Maheu, cousins of the bride. The actual ceremony was celebrated on the 10th of November in the Church of Québec. (Québec Register)" I couldn't find a Louis Maheu in my tree so began a search, first through the above book, where I found on page 32: "1641, May 26th, The Burial of Adrien Dabancour dit Lacaille, the father-in-law of Jean Nicolet. He and his companion, Etienne Sevestre, had drowned on the 2nd of May in 1640 while hunting on the Iles-de-Bellechasse opposite Berthier. On the 20th of May in 1641, Jean Nicolet found his father-in-law's remains[10] and brought them to Quebec where they were solemnly buried in the Quebec cemetery. (Notre-Dame de Quebec Registers). [10] The location of Lacaille's remains was named after him--Lacaille's Point -- but is now know as Saint-Thomas-de-Montmagny. " and on page 33: "1642 November 3rd The first marriage of a Frenchman to an Indian woman to be blessed by the Church was celebrated in Québec. The husband was Martin Prévost and his wife was Marie-Olivier (Manitouabéwich) [a Huron Indian with Sylvestre as her family name]. He became a widower in 1665 [the 10th of September] and married Marie Dabancour, the widow of Godfroy Guillot and sister of Mme. Jean Nicolet on the 8th of November of that same year. (Québec Register)" Never having heard of Dabancour dit Lecaille, I started researching through Jetté and found neither name, so went to Martin Prévost, just for the heck of it. Hmm. He first married Marie-Olivier Sylvestre, but after her death remarried to Marie (d') Abancourt. So who in tarnation is the father-in-law of Jean Nicolet? Was his Indian wife really the sister of Prévost's first wife? If so, Jean's first wife's father would be Roch Manitouabéouich, right? So not the father-in-law buried in 1641. And since Jean never married Marie (d') Abancourt,. not Adrien. All this is supposed to have come from newspapers printed at the time of the events, so one might think the reportage fairly accurate? Any thoughts? Patricia in SW Florida _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_groups_QRlist_&d=DwIF-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=DD5ANebjtpkBE4Ao7oOUcdgwDULFNI5DY34ahoH8HnQ&s=qNEHDl7iL7PQFq5IALMMNab9WYQ6ats-w2wp4R-bSis&e= List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIF-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=DD5ANebjtpkBE4Ao7oOUcdgwDULFNI5DY34ahoH8HnQ&s=qnxTYFcYSOJR4yOfY0p2i4S8KrNIZEgbC7cSAcYo_A8&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIF-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=DD5ANebjtpkBE4Ao7oOUcdgwDULFNI5DY34ahoH8HnQ&s=TLoSVBYULWmsFVUrCPsdzHnbpT_Tnml3fVguVHen_74&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIF-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=DD5ANebjtpkBE4Ao7oOUcdgwDULFNI5DY34ahoH8HnQ&s=-5Pw7AThzYCEWS7T7wK3vQf-1CcQecV94JzPabP5zhs&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    10/06/2018 04:50:57
    1. [Q-R] Re: Quebec-Research Digest, Vol 13, Issue 174

    3. I have been doing some new research on Rene Maheu who married my 8th great-grandmother Jeanne Garnier/Gresnier abt 1635-1703 in 1657, and discovered there are a whole bunch of early settlers named Rene Maheu. So I set out to find if any were related. In a book titled "Searching Through the Old Records of New France" by Cyprien Tanguay, a translation by armand H. Demers, Jr. and found the following on page 35: "1646 October 12th   A marriage contract was drawn up between Nicholas Macard and marguerite Couillard, the widow of Jean Nicolet and daughter of Guillaume Couillard. Friends and witnesses were: MM. De Montmagny, Gouveneur, René and Louis Maheu, cousins of the bride. The actual ceremony was celebrated on the 10th of November in the Church of Québec.   (Québec Register)" I couldn't find a Louis Maheu in my tree so began a search, first through the above book, where I found on page 32:  "1641, May 26th, The Burial of Adrien Dabancour dit Lacaille, the father-in-law of Jean Nicolet. He and his companion, Etienne Sevestre, had drowned on the 2nd of May in 1640 while hunting on the Iles-de-Bellechasse opposite Berthier. On the 20th of May in 1641, Jean Nicolet found his father-in-law's remains[10] and brought them to Quebec where they were solemnly buried in the Quebec cemetery. (Notre-Dame de Quebec Registers). [10] The location of Lacaille's remains was named after him--Lacaille's Point -- but is now know as Saint-Thomas-de-Montmagny. " and on page 33: "1642 November 3rd  The first marriage of a Frenchman to an Indian woman to be blessed by the Church was celebrated in Québec. The husband was Martin Prévost and his wife was Marie-Olivier (Manitouabéwich) [a Huron Indian with Sylvestre as her family name]. He became a widower in 1665 [the 10th of September] and married Marie Dabancour, the widow of Godfroy Guillot and sister of Mme. Jean Nicolet on the 8th of November of that same year. (Québec Register)" Never having heard of Dabancour dit Lecaille, I started researching through Jetté and found neither name, so went to Martin Prévost, just for the heck of it. Hmm. He first married Marie-Olivier Sylvestre, but after her death remarried to Marie (d') Abancourt. So who in tarnation is the father-in-law of Jean Nicolet? Was his Indian wife really the sister of Prévost's first wife? If so, Jean's first wife's father would be Roch Manitouabéouich, right? So not the father-in-law buried in 1641. And since Jean never married Marie (d') Abancourt,. not Adrien. All this is supposed to have come from newspapers printed at the time of the events, so one might think the reportage fairly accurate? Any thoughts? Patricia in SW Florida

    10/06/2018 12:35:12
    1. [Q-R] Re: Translation if possible.........

    3. Yes Kevan, this is the very same man. He was always willing to help. Linnie Is this the Fr. John that passed away? Cheers, Kevan -----Original Message----- From: Renee Cummings <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 8:46 PM To: 'Quebec Research list' <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Q-R] Translation if possible......... Kevan Here is the English translation of the marriage of Joseph's parents by Fr John In the year eighteen hundred twenty-three, on the twelfth of May, after the publication of three banns of marriage done from the pulpit of this parish and of Sorelle on three consecutive Sundays, between the persons of Louis Lefort, farmer, adult son of Louis Lefort and of Theotiste Vignola, his father and mother, of the parish of Sorelle, on the first part; and of Marie Cantara, minor daughter of Michel Cantara, farmer, and of Joseph Arelle, her father and mother, of this parish, on the second part; having found neither impediment or opposition, as it appears from the certificate of Mr Kelly, parish priest of Sorelle, the parents of the parties having consented to the marriage; I received the mutual consent to marriage of the groom (sic) and gave them the nuptial blessing with the ceremonies prescribed by the Holy Church, in the presence, for the groom, of Baptiste Lefort, his brother, and of Augustin Morin; and for the bride, of Michel Cantara, her father, and of Louis Arelle, who, as well as the bride and groom, declared they were unable to sign. /s/ P Gilbert Fr John L _______________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~For the list web page, goto: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm And we are on facebook at: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_groups_QRlist_&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=HecX3r9JztvW1kwbfO6k2np7fisq-OQX9yET1e5A7GA&s=m8LHpaXGl9i8-NAcse3Yxk3qfGn9Fj_00btRTq8Ta5M&e= List Archives are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=HecX3r9JztvW1kwbfO6k2np7fisq-OQX9yET1e5A7GA&s=UQ0Un5il3_pDjfHWmu1ex6FkUcmXjVveopBknivMpzs&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=HecX3r9JztvW1kwbfO6k2np7fisq-OQX9yET1e5A7GA&s=FZz7WdItVlTbg4HINDLKYOUvUq7s6ln03yc5CmuUlmg&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Da3rysqFJ1PmBLRhtTLClGocK_huIGMNMIjiNe9IYZM&m=HecX3r9JztvW1kwbfO6k2np7fisq-OQX9yET1e5A7GA&s=sv-HeVvIcNCT7589clIOKI5tT9wF0x8VHjOB5RfmMQw&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    10/05/2018 08:27:46
    1. [Q-R] Re: Translation if possible.........

    3. Is this the Fr. John that passed away? Cheers, Kevan -----Original Message----- From: Renee Cummings <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 8:46 PM To: 'Quebec Research list' <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Q-R] Translation if possible......... Kevan Here is the English translation of the marriage of Joseph's parents by Fr John In the year eighteen hundred twenty-three, on the twelfth of May, after the publication of three banns of marriage done from the pulpit of this parish and of Sorelle on three consecutive Sundays, between the persons of Louis Lefort, farmer, adult son of Louis Lefort and of Theotiste Vignola, his father and mother, of the parish of Sorelle, on the first part; and of Marie Cantara, minor daughter of Michel Cantara, farmer, and of Joseph Arelle, her father and mother, of this parish, on the second part; having found neither impediment or opposition, as it appears from the certificate of Mr Kelly, parish priest of Sorelle, the parents of the parties having consented to the marriage; I received the mutual consent to marriage of the groom (sic) and gave them the nuptial blessing with the ceremonies prescribed by the Holy Church, in the presence, for the groom, of Baptiste Lefort, his brother, and of Augustin Morin; and for the bride, of Michel Cantara, her father, and of Louis Arelle, who, as well as the bride and groom, declared they were unable to sign. /s/ P Gilbert Fr John L -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: October-03-18 11:21 PM To: 'Quebec Research list' Subject: [Q-R] Translation if possible......... Not sure if I'm reading the following correctly: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1111/d13p_34240166/2052?backurl=http%3a %2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3ddrouinus%26gsln%3dLefor t%26msypn__ftp%3dnew%2byork%252c%2busa%26msypn__ftp_x%3d1%26msypn%3d35%26msy pn_x%3d1%26hc%3d20%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26redir%3dfalse%26uidh%3d6o4 <https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1111/d13p_34240166/2052?backurl=http%3 a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3ddrouinus%26gsln%3dLefo rt%26msypn__ftp%3dnew%2byork%252c%2busa%26msypn__ftp_x%3d1%26msypn%3d35%26ms ypn_x%3d1%26hc%3d20%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26redir%3dfalse%26uidh%3d6o4&backla bel=ReturnSearchResults> &backlabel=ReturnSearchResults It's the marriage on the 18th, left side of record - for the marriage of Joseph Lefort and Rosalie Lapotrie. It states on 18 Sep 1849 that Joseph Lefort, son of Louis Lefort, widower (referring to Joseph) of Marie Cantalau is marrying Rosalie Lapotrie, dau of Francois Lapotrie and Rosalie Morin. Do you agree? I believe with certainty that widower refers to Joseph and not his father. Would it not make odd sense to even mention that his father was a widower within his son's marriage record? Cheers, Kevan

    10/05/2018 08:23:01
    1. [Q-R] Re: Translation if possible.........

    3. Renee, The way you are reading it is the way I've traditionally read it. The problem is that it makes no sense to me when looking at the rest of the documentation available for Joseph. The census records that I find the couple in as well as the death record for Joseph plants his birth on 1793, making it impossible for him to be the son of Louis Lefort and Marie Cantara. And in the records, a Joseph Lefort of 1793 (Sorel/Yamaska) had a father named Louis Lefort (mother was a Vignola). His age at which he married Rosalie leaves it open to have had a previous marriage and it makes sense of a daughter Lenora being in the 1860 census being aged 18 (she would have been born about 1842, eight years before the marriage of Joseph and Rosalie). Once I started playing with Joseph (as husband of Marie Cantara) on Genquebec and the PRDH, everything fell into place. Genquebec has the marriage record of Louis Lefort (father was Louis and mother Vignola) and Marie Cantara, but then the PRDH built this couple out with children, all of which has Joseph or Joseph Louis as a father. The records PRDH used for the family build are all Sorel and Yamaska. There are zero records (that I've found) that has a Louis Lefort and Marie Cantara as parents (but I'll be going back over everything). All of them have Joseph or Joseph Louis Lefort and Marie Cantara. Anyway, to make a long story short Joseph's full name was Joseph Louis Lefort. I would conjecture that his older brother Louis (b. 1790) to Lefort/Vignola died young or has yet to pop up in the records I'm looking at. So, I figured that if I'm correct and the family in Chazy, New York was the same family as the one in Sorel , I might find records in Chazy that have the same parents as the children in Yamaska/Sorel. And, sure enough, I did. I found an Angela lefort getting married, whose parents are Joseph Lefort and Marie Cantara. I think there might be two additional I will ultimately identify, Hercule and Emerence. And, the oldest of the Lefort/Cantara kids, Joseph, appears to be in the Chazy area. I wanted further evidence of the Sorel Leforts being in Chazy. And, sure enough, Charles, a younger brother of Joseph (b.1793) and this Charles' wife (a Millet) are in the area. Charles has a PRDH family build as well, all of which are based on Canadian records. He has more children based on the records in Chazy just as Joseph has. One of the problems with completing the families is that there is a record gap of about fifteen years when the family disappears in the Sorel area around 1830 and when they reappear in the Chazy area after 1843 (I think that's the earliest I've found of any Chazy/Cooperstown records. Have you an idea of where records that cover that gap are kept? And, the Lefort/Cantara and Lefort/Lapoterie family continued to move - many settling in mid-Vermont and using the anglicized name Wilfore they started using in Chazy. It looks like Charles' family move on from Chazy and settled in Wisconsin. So, going back to the marriage record. I think the record should be read, Joseph, son of Louis Lefort, (and) widower of Marie Cantara. What are your thoughts? I'll be hitting all the Lefort/Cantara kids to see if records of later life provide any additional details. Cheers, Kevan -----Original Message----- From: Renee Cummings <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 8:40 PM To: 'Quebec Research list' <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Q-R] Translation if possible......... Kevan Joseph's father Louis was the widower of Marie Cantara. Usually when a widower/widow marries again the name of the parents are seldom mentioned just the name of the deceased spouse. (Louis Lefort,veuf de Marie Cantara) They usually mentioned if one of the parents has died. Good night Renee [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: October-03-18 11:21 PM To: 'Quebec Research list' Subject: [Q-R] Translation if possible......... Not sure if I'm reading the following correctly: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1111/d13p_34240166/2052?backurl=http%3a %2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3ddrouinus%26gsln%3dLefor t%26msypn__ftp%3dnew%2byork%252c%2busa%26msypn__ftp_x%3d1%26msypn%3d35%26msy pn_x%3d1%26hc%3d20%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26redir%3dfalse%26uidh%3d6o4 <https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1111/d13p_34240166/2052?backurl=http%3 a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3ddrouinus%26gsln%3dLefo rt%26msypn__ftp%3dnew%2byork%252c%2busa%26msypn__ftp_x%3d1%26msypn%3d35%26ms ypn_x%3d1%26hc%3d20%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26redir%3dfalse%26uidh%3d6o4&backla bel=ReturnSearchResults> &backlabel=ReturnSearchResults It's the marriage on the 18th, left side of record - for the marriage of Joseph Lefort and Rosalie Lapotrie. It states on 18 Sep 1849 that Joseph Lefort, son of Louis Lefort, widower (referring to Joseph) of Marie Cantalau is marrying Rosalie Lapotrie, dau of Francois Lapotrie and Rosalie Morin. Do you agree? I believe with certainty that widower refers to Joseph and not his father. Would it not make odd sense to even mention that his father was a widower within his son's marriage record? Cheers, Kevan

    10/05/2018 06:02:41
    1. [Q-R] Re: Translation if possible.........
    2. Renee Cummings

    3. Kevan Here is the English translation of the marriage of Joseph's parents by Fr John In the year eighteen hundred twenty-three, on the twelfth of May, after the publication of three banns of marriage done from the pulpit of this parish and of Sorelle on three consecutive Sundays, between the persons of Louis Lefort, farmer, adult son of Louis Lefort and of Theotiste Vignola, his father and mother, of the parish of Sorelle, on the first part; and of Marie Cantara, minor daughter of Michel Cantara, farmer, and of Joseph Arelle, her father and mother, of this parish, on the second part; having found neither impediment or opposition, as it appears from the certificate of Mr Kelly, parish priest of Sorelle, the parents of the parties having consented to the marriage; I received the mutual consent to marriage of the groom (sic) and gave them the nuptial blessing with the ceremonies prescribed by the Holy Church, in the presence, for the groom, of Baptiste Lefort, his brother, and of Augustin Morin; and for the bride, of Michel Cantara, her father, and of Louis Arelle, who, as well as the bride and groom, declared they were unable to sign. /s/ P Gilbert Fr John L -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: October-03-18 11:21 PM To: 'Quebec Research list' Subject: [Q-R] Translation if possible......... Not sure if I'm reading the following correctly: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1111/d13p_34240166/2052?backurl=http%3a %2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3ddrouinus%26gsln%3dLefor t%26msypn__ftp%3dnew%2byork%252c%2busa%26msypn__ftp_x%3d1%26msypn%3d35%26msy pn_x%3d1%26hc%3d20%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26redir%3dfalse%26uidh%3d6o4 <https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1111/d13p_34240166/2052?backurl=http%3 a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3ddrouinus%26gsln%3dLefo rt%26msypn__ftp%3dnew%2byork%252c%2busa%26msypn__ftp_x%3d1%26msypn%3d35%26ms ypn_x%3d1%26hc%3d20%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26redir%3dfalse%26uidh%3d6o4&backla bel=ReturnSearchResults> &backlabel=ReturnSearchResults It's the marriage on the 18th, left side of record - for the marriage of Joseph Lefort and Rosalie Lapotrie. It states on 18 Sep 1849 that Joseph Lefort, son of Louis Lefort, widower (referring to Joseph) of Marie Cantalau is marrying Rosalie Lapotrie, dau of Francois Lapotrie and Rosalie Morin. Do you agree? I believe with certainty that widower refers to Joseph and not his father. Would it not make odd sense to even mention that his father was a widower within his son's marriage record? Cheers, Kevan

    10/04/2018 08:45:35