This is how I connect to GRAVELs Descendants of: Eloi Joseph GRAVEL 1 Eloi Joseph GRAVEL b. 1585 Illier, Isle-de-France d. France m. Marguerite MACE m. 1610 Dinan, Coter-Du-Noret, Brittany, France b. ABT 1590 Bretagne, Vannes, France [daughter of Jean MASSE and Genevieve ROLLAND] 2 Joseph MASSE GRAVEL-dit-BRINDELIERE b. Apr 28 1616 Dinan, Coter-Du-Noret, Brittany, France d. Apr 26 1686 La Visitation, Chateau-Richer, Quebec m. Marguerite M. TAVERNIER m. May 01 1644 Notre-Dame-des Anges, Quebec, Canada b. 1627 Randonnai, Perche, France d. Jan 12 1696/97 Chateau-Richer, Montmorency 1, Quebec [daughter of Eloi TAVERNIER and Marguerite GAGNON] Joseph can be found in the records of Quebec City on April 11 1644. He did his religious Confirmation on February 2, 1660 at Chateau-Richer. Joseph was listed as age 50 in the 1666 Census and age 53 in the 1667 Census. The 1681 Census of Chateau Richer lists him age 70. Another Source has Marguerite's death date as January 11. Historical Notes: 1. The Masse (Macé or Massey) name can be found linked to Charles Martel-dit-Masse, He and his Frankish warriors stopped and repulsed the Moorish advance into Europe. This defeat in 732 was the first for the Moslem conquests. This battle started the aliances between the Frankish tribes. Charles Martel-dit- Masse was the grandfather of Charlemagne -- the King that united the Frankish tribes and formed the first Kingdom of France. He was declared King of the Francs in 766. He was hailed as Emperor of the Occident by Rome. 2. In 1301, in France, lived Seguin Masse Gravel, son of Jehan (Jean) Gravel. He was a Seigneur of lands near the parish of Veroz and Oroux, held in freehold liege domain. 3 Claude GRAVEL b. Feb 20 1662 Chateau-Richer, Montmorency 1, Quebec d. Mar 02 1724 Chateau-Richer, Montmorency 1, Quebec m. Jeanne CLOUTIER m. Feb 04 1687 Chateau-Richer, Montmorency 1, Quebec b. 1668 Chateau-Richer, Montmorency 1, Quebec d. Apr 06 1744 La Visitation, Chateau-Richer, Quebec [daughter of Charles CLOUTIER and Louise MORIN] Claude is listed as the Godfather of his niece Marie-Madeleine. Marie-Madeleine is the daughter of Jean Gravelle and Marie Cloutier. Jeanne is listed as the Godmother of her niece Marie-Madeleine. 4 Pierre Paul GRAVEL b. Dec 21 1695 Chateau-Richer, Montmorency 1, Quebec d. Apr 02 1761 Chateau-Richer, Montmorency 1, Quebec m. Marguerite PRIEUR m. Jan 18 1721 La Visitation, Chateau-Richer, Quebec b. Dec 1689 Quebec, Canada d. Aug 1758 [daughter of Joseph PRIEUR and Helene MECHIN] Alternate Source lists Pierre's burial date March 30, 1761. Alternate Source lists marriage date Jan 19. Alternate Source lists Marguerite's birth date February 8, 1691 and her Baptism as February 9, 1691. 5 Charles Pierre GRAVEL b. Mar 05 1725 Chateau-Richer, Montmorency 1, Quebec d. Mar 01 1776 Beaupre, Montmorency, Quebec, Canada m. Monique RACINE m. Jul 16 1752 Quebec, Canada b. Jul 1728 Beaupre, Montmorency, Quebec, Canada d. AFT 1776 Quebec, Canada [daughter of Jean RACINE and Madeleine M. BOUCHARD-dit-DORVAL] 6 Pierre GRAVEL b. Dec 02 1763 Beaupre, Montmorency, Quebec, Canada d. Mar 03 1844 Maskinonge, Quebec, Canada m. Louise M. OUELLETTE m. Jul 17 1791 St-Antoine, Louiseville, Quebec, Canada b. EST 1771 d. BEF 1844 [daughter of Joseph OUELLETTE and Louise MIVILLE] 7 Antoine GRAVEL b. Jan 05 1803 Louiseville, Maskinonge, Quebec, Canada d. Jan 04 1869 Ile-Perrot, Vaudreuil, Quebec, Canada m. Sophie M. DURANT m. Aug 02 1824 Louiseville, Maskinonge, Quebec, Canada b. EST 1805 [daughter of Francois DURAND and Genevieve PICARD-dit-DESTROISMAISONS] Also known as Sophie Dandurant. Family tradition has it that she is Native and was adopted. Records found of her in orphanage. 8 Alexis GRAVEL b. Jan 17 1832 St-Roch, L'Achigan, Assomption, Quebec d. Oct 26 1878 Papineauville, Quebec, Canada m. Zoe GAUTHIER m. Jan 10 1854 St-Anges, Lachine, Montreal, Quebec b. c1829 Quebec, Canada d. Nov 16 1910 Sudbury, Ontario, Canada [daughter of Amable J. GAUTHIER and Suzanne LALONDE] Alternate Source has marriage at Ste-Jeanne-de-Chantal, Ile-Perrot. Zoe lived in Papineauville, Quebec after Alexis' death. She is found living in Calvin Township, Ontario during the 1881 Census. In 1885 Maxime, Ferdinand, Antoine, Clara, and Louis moved to Sudbury. They joined up with the oldest child, Alfred who worked for the railroad. Zoe age 60 in 1891 Sudbury Census. Zoe's Funeral Mass was held at Ste-Anne-des-Pins in Sudbury, Ontario. 9 Clarisse GRAVEL b. Jan 02 1860 Montreal, Ile-de-Montreal, Quebec d. Nov 01 1941 Coniston, Neelon, Ontario, Canada m. Seraphin LEDUC m. Mar 04 1878 Papineauville, Quebec, Canada b. Jun 10 1858 USA d. Mar 03 1943 Coniston, Neelon, Ontario [son of Pierre LEDUC and Henriette GIRARD] Wedding witnesses were Sophie LEDUC & Frederic GRAVEL Seraphin retired in 1929 Lived on Coniston Road at Rumford Junction for 35 years. Info from Death Certificate #1943 035248 Seraphin found under the name DUKE in the 1881 Bonfield, Ontario Census. 10 Laura LEDUC b. Sep 21 1898 Cobden, Ross Twp., Renfrew Co., Ontario d. Feb 10 1942 McKim, Ontario, Canada m. William James BOIVIN m. Jan 08 1920 Coniston, Neelon, Ontario, Canada b. Dec 22 1896 Bonfield, Nipissing, Ontario, Canada d. Jun 20 1964 Sudbury, Ontario, Canada [son of Joseph BOIVIN and Mathilde LAMOTHE] Laura lived on Lasalle Blvd In Neelon Twp (now Sudbury), Ontario, Canada William worked as Chief Assessor for the City of Sudbury. He farmed on Lasalle Blvd in Neelon Twp - now part of the City of Sudbury. He died in his bed on Father's Day at his son Lloyd Boivin's house. 11 Stanley Girard BOIVIN b. May 31 1929 Sudbury, Ontario, Canada d. Mar 07 1994 Wingham, Ontario, Canada m. Jean Ramona DUBBLESTYNE m. Aug 28 1948 St-John-the-Evangelist, Garson, Ontario b. Feb 03 1932 Pleasant Valley, Hallam, Ontario [daughter of Albert DUBBLESTEIN and Rose Angelina DEAULT-DAOUST] Jean's last name also found spelled DUBBLESTEIN. She converted and was baptized in Roman Catholic Church before marriage. 12 Gary William Stanley BOIVIN (that's Me!!!) b. Feb 08 1949 Sudbury, Ontario, Canada m1. Yvette CARRIERE m. Nov 16 1968 Val Therese, Valley-East, Ontario b. Apr 12 1951 Sudbury, Ontario, Canada [daughter of Lucien CARRIERE and Jeanne CATAFORD] m2. Suzanne Jeannette CARRIERE m. May 20 1988 Penticton, British Columbia b. Jan 13 1954 Sudbury, Ontario, Canada [daughter of Armand CARRIERE and Cecile LAROSE] Gary's peers translated Boivin into English ( Drinkwine ) and called him Wino. The name stuck. ----- Original Message ----- > Wel, well, well... > > For myself, I'm interested in Crete and Dumont, and for a couple maybe- > cousins, I'm interested in Allard, Charles/Lajeunesse, Gravel, and > Plamondon. >