Renee, Yes, another error! How easy it is. Therese was born Therese David, married Massé Martin in 1678, and then Jacob Marsac 12 June of 1706 in Montreal, just weeks before the convoy left for Detroit in late June. Thank you. I also see an error in my earlier post in calling Jacob Marsac dit Lhommetrou, dit Desrosiers. That was a momentary goof in memory. His other dit name was _Desrochers_. And Therese David's marriage to Marsac was in June of 1706, not in April. A reminder not to trust to memory! Suzanne In a message dated 1/5/2005 11:09:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, rcummi1123@rogers.com writes: Hi Sue I'm a little confused by your answer. Previouly you wrote this Therese David, age forty, who, as widow Masse Martin,[18] had just married (en face de l'eglise) soldier Jacob Marsac dit Lhommetrou, also dit Desrosiers. Therese left behind a child born in November of 1704 to her and Marsac, a child who died that fall of 1706. This child was not, though, the product of any casual dalliance. Although Therese David was not married to Marsac in church until June of 1706, her marriage contract was signed not on 25 June 1706, as Jette indicates, but two years earlier, on 25 June 1704. The marriage did not occur then because Marsac was about to leave to fight the English "nos Ennemies". Since the marriage could not be solemnized until his return, and since on such a voyage God could withdraw him from this world, "dieu le Retirer de Ce monde", Marsac willed Therese David all his worldly goods. Their son Jacques was born 26 and baptized 27 November 1704 at Montreal; he was buried 5 October 1706, also at Montreal.[19] Therese David's daughter Marie-Therese Martin had married Louis Haguenier 17 February 1705 at Montreal and given birth to a daughter on 3 December 1705, who was buried on the 30th. It is possible Jacques Marsac was left in the care of his half-sister. Source: Suzanne Boivin Sommerville Union 1706-06-12 Montreal DEMARSAC-DELOMMESPROU JACOB & DAVID MARIE-THERESE PRDH Is this the same couple you are talking about today, but you have the wife named Therese Martin. She was previouly married to a Martin. Jacob maried Therese Mavin in 1706 and Jacob & Therese Martin had a son Francois in 1706. Please clear this up for me. Thank you Renee -----Original Message----- From: SueSommerville@aol.com [mailto:SueSommerville@aol.com] Sent: January 5, 2005 8:36 AM To: QUEBEC-RESEARCH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Q-R] Re: Vital Sarrazin In a message dated 1/4/2005 4:59:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, QUEBEC-RESEARCH-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: X-Message: #8 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 08:40:42 -0700 From: <bobbi517@sbcglobal.net> To: QUEBEC-RESEARCH-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <000b01c4f273$c062fc90$109ffea9@yourxhtr8hvc4p> Subject: Vital Sarrazin Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi Listers, Yesterday I received most of the information I had asked for within a couple of hours. This community is awesome:o) I do have one question about the information I would like to have resolved. One source stated Vital Sarrazin was b: 4 Feb 1720 and d:25 Nov 1720 then another shows him b. 5 Feb 1720 and married 9 Sep 1776 in Detroit, Michigan. Can anyone confirm which of these is correct? Thank you for all your help, Pam In Texas Pam, The Vital Sarrazin dit Depeltaux who married Cecille de Marsac (Francois & Therese Campau) was the son of deceased Vital Sarrasin & deceased Marguerite Leduc. He is recorded on the marriage record as of the parish of Lachine, at present a tradesman / voyageur of this city, Detroit. _This_ Francois Marsac is the son of Jacob Marsac and Therese Martin [correct this to Therese David, widow Martin] , the couple I wrote about in an earlier post (on Jean Soutiere). Francois was baptized at Fort Pontchartrain on 22 October 1706, within months of his parents' arrival there in August. Therese was thus pregnant during the voyage from Montreal in the large convoy of settlers and soldiers in 1706. Francois Marsac married Therese Campau 18 May 1734 at Fort Pontchartrain. Therese is the daughter of another of the early founding families of Detroit, daughter of Jacques Campau and Cecile Catin. And, as Linnie pointed out, Detroit was very much part of New France until the British claimed it officially in 1763; and it was part of Canada until 11 July 1796, when U. S. troops took over the city and raised the flag. Colonial John Hamtramck arrived on 13 July 1796 to be the first commander. He was born in Quebec and his mother was a French-Canadian, but he fought for the Americans in the Revolutionary War. Suzanne ==== QUEBEC-RESEARCH Mailing List ==== Thanks to/Merci a Norman Cazavan for all his wonderful help. Visit our Quebec list web page. la page Web Quebec: Http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm and Read submission requests from 'Best Bill" et lis les demandes pour poster de "Best Bill" For the 1901 census campain visit:http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/committee.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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