Hi Odile, Thank you for your reply. Sorry you had to wait so long for mine. Sorry also that you took offence to my post. I try to understand your statement: "what a man can do a woman can do it also". You also said: " the situation is she married at the age of 73 years old with a 24 years old....what wrong with this? nothing...how many ****elderly men**** in the history married young females.................. a lot and they have kids..." A 73 year old woman cannot have kids can she? I made a spreadsheet of all marriages in my db with birth year of both spouses and marriage dates. I added a column for age differance, (wife birthday minus husband birthday), and sorted on age differance. I have 4000 marriages in it. At top of my list is negative age difference, (wife is older) and at bottom are plus difference, (husband older). I make a new list every 3-5 years and always find one or two with over 100 year age difference. Those are easily corrected as typos. Other large differences are considered "unlikely" or "questionable" and should be verified with a closer look. This marriage was at the top of my list so when I saw it in Renée's list I posted. Renée has offered much insight so that I agree PRDH has properly derived a 1641 birth for Rene Branche (from sepulture). PRDH offers no birth date for Marguerite and my 1592 birth for her is from IGI only so worthless. More likely born 1600-1605. She also referred to a PRDH baptism referencing Rene Branche a few days before the marriage so I had to check that he was not the father. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Odile" <[email protected]> To: "Richard Van Wasshnova" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [QUEBEC] Here's to you Mrs Robinson - RE Marriages from Renee's dbFeb 17 >I try to understand your statement: is it that you believe there is an >error > in dates? please explain to me your statement.. > > """"Below I show all of Marguerite's descendants as of 1665-02-17 and > her 2nd marriage. Rene Branche's birth date is 1641 per PRDH which makes > him > born after all but 3 of Marguerite's children. > > I realize PRDH offers no > guarantees on events and dates in France but perhaps they should > reconsided > this one?"""" > > > My own comment > the situation is she married at the age of 73 years old with a 24 years > old....what wrong with this? nothing...how many ****elderly men**** in > the > history married young females.................. a lot and they have > kids... > no age for love. in the case of the slavery that was not love it was sexe > and rape and please put away that discrimination if it is what you > meant.. > > am over 60 years old and since I am 13 years old that I had been saying > this*** what a man can do a woman can do it also, I had lived that way and > no one had been against me... > > no hard feelings, waiting for your explaination. a canuck here > > Odile > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Van Wasshnova" <[email protected]> > To: "Renee Cummings" <[email protected]>; "QUEBEC-L" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 2:19 AM > Subject: [QUEBEC] Here's to you Mrs Robinson - RE Marriages from Renee's > dbFeb 17 > > > Hi, > > Just returned from mini vacation to San Diego and Tijuana and noticed a > very > interesting marriage in Renee's list which reminded me of the movie "The > Graduate". > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Renee Cummings" <[email protected]> > <snip> > ---------------- > Marguerite Langlois' 2nd Marriage: > PRDH Marriage Record Transcription #66657 (spelling as in original record) > Marriage Place/Date: Québec - 1665-02-17 > 01 René Branche, --- , unmarried, present, male > Origin: Nôtre-Dame, Fontenay, Poitou > 02 Marguerite Langlois, --- , widow, present, female > 03 Jean Branche, --- , married, --- , male - Father of 01; Spouse of 04 > 04 Jeanne Bardon, --- , married, --- , female - Mother of 01; Spouse of 03 > 05 Abraham Martin, --- , married, deceased, male - Spouse of 02 > Residence: Québec > <snip> > > Who on this list is not descended from Abraham (da plain, da plain) Martin > and Marguerite Langlois? They had 9 children, 3 sons - no issue and 6 > daughters all of whom married and had children. By 1665 all 6 daughters > had > married. Below I show all of Marguerite's descendants as of 1665-02-17 and > her 2nd marriage. Rene Branche's birth date is 1641 per PRDH which makes > him > born after all but 3 of Marguerite's children. I realize PRDH offers no > guarantees on events and dates in France but perhaps they should > reconsided > this one? > > > Descendants of Marguerite LANGLOIS as of 1665-02-17 > ---------------------------------- > 1-Marguerite LANGLOIS b. 1592, France, d. 1665-12-17, Québec City > +Abraham MARTIN Dit L'ecossais b. 1589, Scotland or France, d. 1664-09-08, > Québec City > m. Bef 1621-10-24, France > 2-Eustache MARTIN b. 1621-10-24, Québec City > 2-Marguerite Marie MARTIN b. 1624-01-04, Québec City, > d. 1679-11-25, Château-Richer > +Etienne RACINE b. 1607-05-11, St-Germain-de-Fumichon, Normandy,France, > d. 1689-04-24, Ste-Anne-de-Beaupre > Canada, m. 1638-05-22, Québec City (Notre-Dame-de-Québec) > 3-Féminin RACINE b. 1640-09-30, Québec City > d. 1640-09-30, Québec City > 3-Louise RACINE b. 1641-09-02, Québec City > d. 1675-01-05, Château-Richer > 3-Noel RACINE b. 1643-12-26, Québec City > d. 1728-03-04, Ste-Anne-de-Beaupre > 3-Marie Magdelene RACINE b. 1646-07-25, Québec City > d. 1726-12-03, Baie-St-Paul, > 3-Francois RACINE b. 1649-07-16, Québec City > d. 1714-02-23, Ste-Anne-de-Beaupre > 3-Marguerite RACINE b. 1652-03-08, Ste-Anne-de-Beaupre > d. 1695-12-17, Château-Richer > 3-Pierre RACINE b. 1654-10-26, Château-Richer > d. 1729-03-12, Québec City > 3-Marie RACINE b. Bef 1657, Québec City > d. 1736-01-30, Montréal (Hôtel-Dieu-de-Montréal) > 3-Jeanne RACINE b. Bef 1660, Château-Richer > d. 1703-05-18, Ste-Anne-de-Beaupre > 3-Etienne RACINE b. 1662-08-03, Château-Richer > d. 1722-01-03, Ste-Anne-de-Beaupre > 2-Helene MARTIN b. 1627-06-21, Québec City > d. Bef 1653-08-24, Québec City > +Claude ETIENNE , m. 1640-10-22, Québec City > 3-Martin ETIENNE b. 1644-07, Québec City > d. 1644-09-15, Québec City > +Medard CHOUART Des Groselliers b. Paroisse-DE-Charly St-Cyr Brie, > France, m. 1647-09-03, Québec City > 2-Marie MARTIN b. 1635-04-10, Québec City > d. 1699-04-25, Château-Richer > +Jean CLOUTIER b. 1620-05-13, St.Jean de Mortagne, Perche, France > d. 1690-10-16, Château-Richer > m. 1648-01-21, Québec City (Notre-Dame-de-Québec) > 3-Jean CLOUTIER b. 1652-02-20, Québec City > d. 1709-12-04, Château-Richer > 3-Marie CLOUTIER b. Abt 1654 > 3-Marguerite CLOUTIER b. 1656-02-15, Québec City > d. Bef 1727, Beaupré > 3-Marie Louise CLOUTIER b. Abt 1658 > 3-Anne CLOUTIER b. 1659-05-30, Québec City > d. Bef 1714, St-Joachim > 3-Marie-Xaintes CLOUTIER b. 1661, Québec City > d. 1725-09-22, Château-Richer (L'islet) > 3-Joseph CLOUTIER b. Abt 1663 > 3-Pierre CLOUTIER > 2-Adrien MARTIN b. 1638-11-22, Québec City > d. Québec Prov > 2-Marie Madeleine MARTIN b. 1640-09-13, Québec City > bur. 1688-02-22, Lachenaie (St-Charles) > +Nicolas FORGET Dit Despatis b. Abt 1622, Notre Dame, D'alencon, > Normandy, France, m. 1653-02-06, Québec City > 3-Michel FORGET b. 1656-06-18, Montréal, d. 1856-06-18, Montréal > 3-Gabriel FORGET b. 1659-06-09, (Montréal, d. 1659-06-09 > 3-Jacques FORGET b. 1662-07-29, Montréal > d. 1728-04-08, Deschambault > 3-Marguerite FORGET b. 1666-04-08, Québec City > d. 1704-07-26, (St-François-de-Sales (Île-Jésus) > +Jean Baptiste FONTENEAU b. <1651>, m. 1681-02-01, Repentigny > (Purification > B.V.M.) > 2-Barbe MARTIN b. 1643-01-04, Québec City > d. 1660-10-04, Québec City > +Pierre BIRON , m. 1655-01-12, Québec City (Notre-Dame-de-Québec) > 3-Anne BIRON b. 1660-08-25, Québec City > 2-Anne MARTIN b. 1645-03-23, Québec City, d. 1717-01-14, Île d'Orléans > +Jacques RATÉ b. Abt 1631, Laleu, La Rochelle, Aunis, France, > d. 1699-04-08, Île d'Orléans (St-Pierre-et-St-Paul) > m. 1658-11-12, Québec City (Notre-Dame-de-Québec) > 3-Marie Anne RATÉ b. 1665-02-16, Québec City > 2-Charles Amador MARTIN b. 1648-03-06, Québec City > d. 1711-06-19, Québec City > +Rene BRANCHE b. 1641, Notre Dame, Fontenaylecomte, Maillezais, France, d. > 1681-01-08, Québec City, m. 1665-02-17, Québec City > ---------------------------------- > ================= > Richard Van Wasshnova > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > >