Hi Prue, Out of curiousity, I looked at the 1870 census and found Richard and Mary NEWMAN. It says that Mary was born in Canada, and the first 3 children mentioned were teen-age children also born in Canada. The children were 17 to 7, and I wonder whether they were all "his" children, and could have some of them have been "her" children. But, they were both Age 61 and 60 in 1870. And, in 1880, Anne NEWMAN is 57 and living with her 3 teen-age sons. That means she was having children in her 40's. The youngest son was born in VT, and her son, 24, and his family were living beside them. This is a confusing family, and it's the kind of family that needs "pencil and paper" to figure out. :o) Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) P.S. I checked for a Thomas NEWMAN in VT and there was one, but born in England. He was 61, widowed, and living in the VT State Soldiers Home in Bennington. I see there are other NEWMAN people living in VT or NH 1870's / 1880's and born in England. Either it's a popular name or they were relatives. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Prue Crossland" <pruecrossland@greetland.fsnet.co.uk> To: <QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:30 AM Subject: [QUEBEC] Marriage to mother and daughter > > Prue > > Yorkshire, England > > > > >