Hi! Marika My name is Dick Aubé. I too am decended from Martin Janson dit Cemetiere. I would like to exchange information with you. My mother was Madeleine Jeanson (Janson). please write back. Dick Aubé ----- Original Message ----- From: <hymerlore@aol.com> To: <ksinotte@rogers.com>; <QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com>; <METIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:38 PM Subject: [QUEBEC] Fwd: Martin Janson/Jeanson dit Cimetiere > > I am enjoining you in this email request as I found your emails in a > google search relating to my ancestor, Martin Janson/Jeanson dit > Cimetiere, of which you may also have linking data to share. > > Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you. > > Marika Hymer > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hymerlore@aol.com > To: gboivin@telusplanet.net > Sent: Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:34 am > Subject: Martin Janson/Jeanson dit Cimetiere > > > I found your response to another's inquiry on a google search, as I was > searching for my ancestor, Martin Janson/Jeanson dit Cimetiere and you > have identified who I am looking for: > > "I believe that this Madeleine Cimetiere/Cimetaire is from my line. I have > her being married to Louis Lamaire on Feb 14, 1763 in Vercheres, Quebec, > Canada. Her parents were Martin Janson / Jeanson dit Cimetiere and Agnes > Pepin. His were Louis Lamarre and Ursule Pellitier." > > I cannot find anything on "Ancestry.com" and was wondering if you could > share any section of your family tree that might intertwine with mine. I > have a story preserved in the family that said my grandmother, Lucy May > Johnson of Hastings, Ontario (1898) was descended of Martin Janson dit > Cimetiere of Trois-Moutieres, Anjou, France, who immigrated to Quebec, and > branched into Deslaurier and Johnson surnames. > > Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. > > With thanks, > > > With thanks, > > Marika Hymer > > > > > . > . > Search the Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC > . > Browse the Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ > . > A link to a favorite site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUEBEC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I am enjoining you in this email request as I found your emails in a google search relating to my ancestor, Martin Janson/Jeanson dit Cimetiere, of which you may also have linking data to share. Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Marika Hymer -----Original Message----- From: hymerlore@aol.com To: gboivin@telusplanet.net Sent: Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:34 am Subject: Martin Janson/Jeanson dit Cimetiere I found your response to another's inquiry on a google search, as I was searching for my ancestor, Martin Janson/Jeanson dit Cimetiere and you have identified who I am looking for: "I believe that this Madeleine Cimetiere/Cimetaire is from my line. I have her being married to Louis Lamaire on Feb 14, 1763 in Vercheres, Quebec, Canada. Her parents were Martin Janson / Jeanson dit Cimetiere and Agnes Pepin. His were Louis Lamarre and Ursule Pellitier." I cannot find anything on "Ancestry.com" and was wondering if you could share any section of your family tree that might intertwine with mine. I have a story preserved in the family that said my grandmother, Lucy May Johnson of Hastings, Ontario (1898) was descended of Martin Janson dit Cimetiere of Trois-Moutieres, Anjou, France, who immigrated to Quebec, and branched into Deslaurier and Johnson surnames. Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. With thanks, With thanks, Marika Hymer

Thanks Doreen I will check it out. -----Original Message----- From: quebec-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of D. O' Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 1:21 AM To: quebec@rootsweb.com; quebec-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [QUEBEC] 1861 Census Try LDS Pilot Cheers! Doreen ========== > From: squash1909@verizon.net > To: quebec-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 19:52:38 -0400 > Subject: [QUEBEC] 1861 Census > > Does anyone know of a location I can find the 1861 census on. I located 2 > sites and they seemed to have all the censuses except 1861. I know it is on > Ancestry but the pages I am looking for in St Jean are missing. After page > 45 the wrong pages were scanned, blank pages. > > > > Thanks > > Jan > > . > . > Search the Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC > . > Browse the Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ > . > A link to a favorite site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail & Messenger. Get them on your phone now. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724463 . . Search the Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC . Browse the Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ . A link to a favorite site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try LDS Pilot Cheers! Doreen ========== > From: squash1909@verizon.net > To: quebec-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 19:52:38 -0400 > Subject: [QUEBEC] 1861 Census > > Does anyone know of a location I can find the 1861 census on. I located 2 > sites and they seemed to have all the censuses except 1861. I know it is on > Ancestry but the pages I am looking for in St Jean are missing. After page > 45 the wrong pages were scanned, blank pages. > > > > Thanks > > Jan > > . > . > Search the Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC > . > Browse the Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ > . > A link to a favorite site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail & Messenger. Get them on your phone now. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724463

Does anyone know of a location I can find the 1861 census on. I located 2 sites and they seemed to have all the censuses except 1861. I know it is on Ancestry but the pages I am looking for in St Jean are missing. After page 45 the wrong pages were scanned, blank pages. Thanks Jan

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21 years old at the time, regardless of gender. Under this, parents consent was required. Stayed valid till the age of the civil majority for the province of Quebec was brought down to 18 in the 1971, from the age of 21, it was since 1782, where it was 25 prior to that date. M -----Original Message----- From: quebec-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Allyssa Edwards Sent: March 31, 2010 7:56 PM To: quebec@rootsweb.com Subject: [QUEBEC] Age for consent for marriage in Quebec in 1874? I've been trying to decipher a marriage record that is in french, and with incredibly hard to read handwriting (and my french is very rusting, but i'm getting help). it indicated that both persons are minors. I read in an article that the age of consent varied depending on time period and that it could be different for males and females. My people are Hyacinthe Dussault and Emelie Pouliot. The record I found on ancestry says 2 Jun 1874, though i'm not sure yet if thats the actual date of marriage. it lists both people as "fil mineur/fille mineure" from what i can read. So i'm trying to narrow down the age range from that. Can anyone tell me what the age of consent was for each gender at that time? they were catholic and in St Hyacinthe, Quebec. Thanks for any suggestions. -- ~*~ Allyssa (New England, USA) ~*~ (I am often house-bound or limited, so can often only search from home. I always GREATLY appreciate the kindness of volunteers.) Need a Massachusetts Vital Record from before 1850? Please feel free to ask. I can look them up on my discs, no problem :) http://branches-leaves.blogspot.com (new site with obits, records, transcriptions, etc) . . Search the Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC . Browse the Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ . A link to a favorite site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Allysa; The age of consent at that time in Quebec was 21. So if they were "minors" i.e. not of age, then they were not yet 21 when they married. I recall reading something somewhere on that particular topic, not sure if it was on the Internet or not.. Frank Watters ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allyssa Edwards" <edbatch@gmail.com> To: <quebec@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:56 PM Subject: [QUEBEC] Age for consent for marriage in Quebec in 1874? > I've been trying to decipher a marriage record that is in french, and > with > incredibly hard to read handwriting (and my french is very rusting, > but i'm > getting help). it indicated that both persons are minors. I read in an > article that the age of consent varied depending on time period and > that it > could be different for males and females. > > My people are Hyacinthe Dussault and Emelie Pouliot. The record I > found on > ancestry says 2 Jun 1874, though i'm not sure yet if thats the actual > date > of marriage. it lists both people as "fil mineur/fille mineure" from > what i > can read. So i'm trying to narrow down the age range from that. > > Can anyone tell me what the age of consent was for each gender at that > time? > they were catholic and in St Hyacinthe, Quebec. > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > -- > ~*~ Allyssa (New England, USA) ~*~ > (I am often house-bound or limited, so can often only search from > home. I > always GREATLY appreciate the kindness of volunteers.) > > Need a Massachusetts Vital Record from before 1850? Please feel free > to ask. > I can look them up on my discs, no problem :) > body of the message

Kwai Kwai (Hello) Ms Edwards, Back in the 1800's into the early 1900's. per tribal traditions of the various Abenaki Clans and Bands in northern New England and in Quebec, the age that an Abenaki lady could be married was at the age of 15 years of age. My grandmother on my father's side who was born in Canada was such an Abenaki lady when she married my grandfather shortly after the turn of the 1900's ( a copy of the page from the family Bible shows that fact). Whether it was a common pravtice amongst all of the people, native and non-native, I do not know, but there are many incidentts of this practice throughout many Abenaki families on both sides of the US-Canadian border during those years, and it is one of several clues as to the possibility that the lady who was married at the age of 15 MIGHT have been of possible Abenaki lineage in an Abenaki Clan. Hopefully, this tidbit of informastion might be of help to someone in their attempt to solving a lineage puzzle, especially if they are researching a Native American/First Nations lineage. There are a few cases wherein some of these marriages by young ladies at the age of 15 y.o. when they were not Native American//First Nations ladies but from what I have seen, they are very few that I am aware of. Maybe someone has more info on the subject then I am aware of. Respectfully Yours, Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allyssa Edwards" <edbatch@gmail.com> To: <quebec@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:56 PM Subject: [QUEBEC] Age for consent for marriage in Quebec in 1874? > I've been trying to decipher a marriage record that is in french, and with > incredibly hard to read handwriting (and my french is very rusting, but > i'm > getting help). it indicated that both persons are minors. I read in an > article that the age of consent varied depending on time period and that > it > could be different for males and females. > > My people are Hyacinthe Dussault and Emelie Pouliot. The record I found on > ancestry says 2 Jun 1874, though i'm not sure yet if thats the actual date > of marriage. it lists both people as "fil mineur/fille mineure" from what > i > can read. So i'm trying to narrow down the age range from that. > > Can anyone tell me what the age of consent was for each gender at that > time? > they were catholic and in St Hyacinthe, Quebec. > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > -- > ~*~ Allyssa (New England, USA) ~*~ > (I am often house-bound or limited, so can often only search from home. I > always GREATLY appreciate the kindness of volunteers.) > > Need a Massachusetts Vital Record from before 1850? Please feel free to > ask. > I can look them up on my discs, no problem :) > > http://branches-leaves.blogspot.com (new site with obits, records, > transcriptions, etc) > . > . > Search the Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC > . > Browse the Archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ > . > A link to a favorite site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUEBEC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, from Census Information - looks like he would have been 19 at the time - she 18 years of age - so considered minors. * At 07:41 PM 31/03/2010, you wrote: >Hi Allysa; > >The age of consent at that time in Quebec was 21. So if they were >"minors" i.e. not of age, then they were not yet 21 when they married. >I recall reading something somewhere on that particular topic, not sure >if it was on the Internet or not.. > > >Frank Watters >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Allyssa Edwards" <edbatch@gmail.com> >To: <quebec@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:56 PM >Subject: [QUEBEC] Age for consent for marriage in Quebec in 1874? > > > > I've been trying to decipher a marriage record that is in french, and > > with > > incredibly hard to read handwriting (and my french is very rusting, > > but i'm > > getting help). it indicated that both persons are minors. I read in an > > article that the age of consent varied depending on time period and > > that it > > could be different for males and females. > > > > My people are Hyacinthe Dussault and Emelie Pouliot. The record I > > found on > > ancestry says 2 Jun 1874, though i'm not sure yet if thats the actual > > date > > of marriage. it lists both people as "fil mineur/fille mineure" from > > what i > > can read. So i'm trying to narrow down the age range from that. > > > > Can anyone tell me what the age of consent was for each gender at that > > time? > > they were catholic and in St Hyacinthe, Quebec. > > > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > > > -- > > ~*~ Allyssa (New England, USA) ~*~ > > (I am often house-bound or limited, so can often only search from > > home. I > > always GREATLY appreciate the kindness of volunteers.) > > > > Need a Massachusetts Vital Record from before 1850? Please feel free > > to ask. > > I can look them up on my discs, no problem :) > > >body of the message > >. >. >Search the Archives: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC >. >Browse the Archives: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ >. >A link to a favorite site: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm >. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >QUEBEC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've been trying to decipher a marriage record that is in french, and with incredibly hard to read handwriting (and my french is very rusting, but i'm getting help). it indicated that both persons are minors. I read in an article that the age of consent varied depending on time period and that it could be different for males and females. My people are Hyacinthe Dussault and Emelie Pouliot. The record I found on ancestry says 2 Jun 1874, though i'm not sure yet if thats the actual date of marriage. it lists both people as "fil mineur/fille mineure" from what i can read. So i'm trying to narrow down the age range from that. Can anyone tell me what the age of consent was for each gender at that time? they were catholic and in St Hyacinthe, Quebec. Thanks for any suggestions. -- ~*~ Allyssa (New England, USA) ~*~ (I am often house-bound or limited, so can often only search from home. I always GREATLY appreciate the kindness of volunteers.) Need a Massachusetts Vital Record from before 1850? Please feel free to ask. I can look them up on my discs, no problem :) http://branches-leaves.blogspot.com (new site with obits, records, transcriptions, etc)

Hi, Sorry I have no answer - but - I searched LDS online found Hyacinthe TOUPIN or DUSSAULT born aprox 1855 - married: Emilie POULIOT- daughter: or Pierre POULIOT -and Francine CROTTEAU or VINCENT 1881 Census shows: Hyacinthe - age 26 - born 1855? Emilie - age 25 born: 1856. Clarinda - age 5 b. aprox 1876 Rudolphe - age 3 b. aprox 1878 Joseph age 1. b. aprox 1880 makes the bride and groom aprox 18 and 19 years old. At 04:56 PM 31/03/2010, you wrote: >I've been trying to decipher a marriage record that is in french, and with >incredibly hard to read handwriting (and my french is very rusting, but i'm >getting help). it indicated that both persons are minors. I read in an >article that the age of consent varied depending on time period and that it >could be different for males and females. > >My people are Hyacinthe Dussault and Emelie Pouliot. The record I found on >ancestry says 2 Jun 1874, though i'm not sure yet if thats the actual date >of marriage. it lists both people as "fil mineur/fille mineure" from what i >can read. So i'm trying to narrow down the age range from that. > >Can anyone tell me what the age of consent was for each gender at that time? >they were catholic and in St Hyacinthe, Quebec. > >Thanks for any suggestions. > >-- >~*~ Allyssa (New England, USA) ~*~ >(I am often house-bound or limited, so can often only search from home. I >always GREATLY appreciate the kindness of volunteers.) > >Need a Massachusetts Vital Record from before 1850? Please feel free to ask. >I can look them up on my discs, no problem :) > >http://branches-leaves.blogspot.com (new site with obits, records, >transcriptions, etc) >. >. >Search the Archives: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC >. >Browse the Archives: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ >. >A link to a favorite site: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm >. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >QUEBEC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am forwarding this to the list in case there is anyone who might connect to this Tremblay-Hunault family. I do not have them in my extensive Hunault dit Deschamps database. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ REPLY TO: lllauder@msn.com LINDA LAUDERDALE wrote: I have come into possession of a marble plaque (7"x12") that may have been attached to a grave or mausoleum. I found your name on the internet as showing some interest in these families. The plaque says: "Josephine HUNAULT, espouse TREMBLAY, 1872-1915" - any idea who this was? If she was part of your family, I would like to return the plaque to you. If not, do you have contacts with others researching these families who may be able to help me? I live in Virginia, but the plaque was sent to me by someone in Texas who knew my interest in history. Where she got it is unknown. I apologize if I am bothering you and thank you for any assistance you may give me. Linda Lauderdale <http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/>

"Mom" Smith is correct in saying that it is impossible for a woman to give birth twice within six months unless the second one is premature. On the other hand, a woman can become pregnant as soon as she has ovulated, which can occur 4 to 6 weeks after giving birth. [Not to mention that pregnancy can -- and does -- immediately after menarche]. Turning to the topic of my expertise (sacraments): An infant born prematurely at home in the 17th -- 19th century would have been "ondoyé" (provisionally baptised) by the midwife, and brought to the church as soon as possible (which, in wintertime, might have been several months later) for the other rites of baptism to be performed. A infant who was stillborn would have been "ondoyé", and that fact would have been recorded in the burial record. Fr John L -----Original Message----- From: MASmith <momsmith@fnwusers.com> To: quebec@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 1:32 am Subject: Re: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska The way the dates are, if they are correct, it's almost impossible to have abies that close together.......unless the second one was a preemie.... nd in those days, they usually didn't survive. -----Original Message----- rom: quebec-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-bounces@rootsweb.com] On ehalf Of Russell Dorr ent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:59 PM o: quebec@rootsweb.com; QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com ubject: Re: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska Interesting. Even more interesting is the fact that they were born only 6 onths apart to the same parents! What gives? ud --- On Tue, 3/16/10, Fr John L <owentagart@aol.com> wrote: rom: Fr John L <owentagart@aol.com> ubject: Re: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska o: quebec@rootsweb.com, QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com ate: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 10:54 PM According to the record on two consecutive pages of the register of the arish of St. Basile de Madawaska, Father Charles Hott, priest and pastor of hat parish, on 18 March 1806, baptised two sons of Joseph Tibeaudeau and arie Josephte Cote, namely Firmin Theodule Tibeaudeau and Simon Maxime ibeaudeau. The record also indicates that Firmin Theodule was born on 12 anuary 1800, Simon Maxime on 28 July of the same year, and that both were aptised during that year by Messire Francois Vezina, missionary there at hat time. There is no reason given in the record for the second baptismal eremony. However, according to my own experience of nearly 40 years of riesthood, I am quite sure the reason was that the records kept by Messire ezina, missionary were either deteriorating or difficult to read. This was ot simply a transcription of the previous record, as indicated by the fact hat, in addition to the marks [ + } of some of the participants who were unable to sign their own names, there are names ritten out in a different hand than Father Hott. r John L -----Original Message----- rom: Russell Dorr <russelldorr@yahoo.com> o: QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com ent: Tue, Mar 16, 2010 8:08 pm ubject: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska n this page, there are two baptisms of two sons of Joseph Thibodeau & rie-Josephte Coté, one for Firmin Thèodule, the other for Simon Maxime, oth 18 Mar 1806. What is odd is that it seems Firmin was born 12 Jan 1800, imon 28 Jul 1800. Can anyone figure out what is going on here? The URL is at he d. hanks, ud Dorr ttp://search.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=View&r=an&dbid=1110&iid=d13p_31370798&f =Simon+Maxime&ln=Tibeaudeau&st=r&ssrc=&pid=631889 arch the Archives: tp://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC rowse the Archives: tp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ link to a favorite site: tp://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm ------------------------------ unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to UEBEC-request@rootsweb.com th the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message . earch the Archives: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC rowse the Archives: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ link to a favorite site: ttp://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to UEBEC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes n the subject and the body of the message earch the Archives: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC rowse the Archives: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ link to a favorite site: ttp://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to UEBEC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes n the subject and the body of the message earch the Archives: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC rowse the Archives: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ link to a favorite site: ttp://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

The way the dates are, if they are correct, it's almost impossible to have babies that close together.......unless the second one was a preemie.... and in those days, they usually didn't survive. -----Original Message----- From: quebec-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Russell Dorr Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:59 PM To: quebec@rootsweb.com; QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska Interesting. Even  more interesting is the fact that they were born only 6 months apart to the same parents! What gives?   Bud --- On Tue, 3/16/10, Fr John L <owentagart@aol.com> wrote: From: Fr John L <owentagart@aol.com> Subject: Re: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska To: quebec@rootsweb.com, QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 10:54 PM According to the record on two consecutive pages of the register of the parish of St. Basile de Madawaska, Father Charles Hott, priest and pastor of that parish, on 18 March 1806, baptised two sons of Joseph Tibeaudeau and Marie Josephte Cote, namely Firmin Theodule Tibeaudeau and Simon Maxime Tibeaudeau.  The record also indicates that Firmin Theodule was born on 12 January 1800, Simon Maxime on 28 July of the same year, and that both were baptised during that year by Messire Francois Vezina, missionary there at that time.  There is no reason given in the record for the second baptismal ceremony.  However, according to my own experience of nearly 40 years of priesthood,  I am quite sure the reason was that the records kept by Messire Vezina, missionary were either deteriorating or difficult to read.  This was not simply a transcription of the previous record, as indicated by the fact that, in addition to the  marks [  +  } of some of the participants who were unable to sign their own names, there are names written out in a different hand than Father Hott.  Fr John L -----Original Message----- From: Russell Dorr <russelldorr@yahoo.com> To: QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, Mar 16, 2010 8:08 pm Subject: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska On this page, there are two baptisms of two sons of Joseph Thibodeau & arie-Josephte Coté, one for Firmin Thèodule, the other for Simon Maxime, both n 18 Mar 1806. What is odd is that it seems Firmin was born 12 Jan 1800, Simon n 28 Jul 1800. Can anyone figure out what is going on here? The URL is at the nd. hanks, ud Dorr ttp://search.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=View&r=an&dbid=1110&iid=d13p_31370798&f n=Simon+Maxime&ln=Tibeaudeau&st=r&ssrc=&pid=631889       earch the Archives: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC rowse the Archives: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ link to a favorite site: ttp://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message . . Search the Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC . Browse the Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ . A link to a favorite site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message . . Search the Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC . Browse the Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ . A link to a favorite site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Preemie? But I don't know if he'd have survived without modern medical methods.......... Or else, someone got the dates wrong. -----Original Message----- From: quebec-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Russell Dorr Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:59 PM To: quebec@rootsweb.com; QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska Interesting. Even  more interesting is the fact that they were born only 6 months apart to the same parents! What gives?   Bud --- On Tue, 3/16/10, Fr John L <owentagart@aol.com> wrote: From: Fr John L <owentagart@aol.com> Subject: Re: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska To: quebec@rootsweb.com, QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 10:54 PM According to the record on two consecutive pages of the register of the parish of St. Basile de Madawaska, Father Charles Hott, priest and pastor of that parish, on 18 March 1806, baptised two sons of Joseph Tibeaudeau and Marie Josephte Cote, namely Firmin Theodule Tibeaudeau and Simon Maxime Tibeaudeau.  The record also indicates that Firmin Theodule was born on 12 January 1800, Simon Maxime on 28 July of the same year, and that both were baptised during that year by Messire Francois Vezina, missionary there at that time.  There is no reason given in the record for the second baptismal ceremony.  However, according to my own experience of nearly 40 years of priesthood,  I am quite sure the reason was that the records kept by Messire Vezina, missionary were either deteriorating or difficult to read.  This was not simply a transcription of the previous record, as indicated by the fact that, in addition to the  marks [  +  } of some of the participants who were unable to sign their own names, there are names written out in a different hand than Father Hott.  Fr John L -----Original Message----- From: Russell Dorr <russelldorr@yahoo.com> To: QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, Mar 16, 2010 8:08 pm Subject: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska On this page, there are two baptisms of two sons of Joseph Thibodeau & arie-Josephte Coté, one for Firmin Thèodule, the other for Simon Maxime, both n 18 Mar 1806. What is odd is that it seems Firmin was born 12 Jan 1800, Simon n 28 Jul 1800. Can anyone figure out what is going on here? The URL is at the nd. hanks, ud Dorr ttp://search.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=View&r=an&dbid=1110&iid=d13p_31370798&f n=Simon+Maxime&ln=Tibeaudeau&st=r&ssrc=&pid=631889       earch the Archives: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC rowse the Archives: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ link to a favorite site: ttp://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message . . Search the Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC . Browse the Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ . A link to a favorite site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message . . Search the Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC . Browse the Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ . A link to a favorite site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good afternoon,   As a follow-up to this previous thread, the baptism of the wife of Joseph Thibodeau, Marie-Anne Martin, was not found, either. She would have been born around 1801 according to her census age. It seems no one born at St-Basile between 1799 & 1803 is recorded.   Bud --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Russell Dorr <russelldorr@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Russell Dorr <russelldorr@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska To: quebec@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 12:28 PM Yes, I found the marriage as well. Very interesting. There are no baptisms of any children of this couple in any of the on-line registers between 1795 and 1800. It stands to reason there were two or three children born to the couple during that period. To French Catholics of that time, the church was all encompassing. To not baptise their children is unthinkable. I guess this is one of those rare circumstances where the records were either not recorded or lost.   Bud --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Renee Cummings <rcummi1123@rogers.com> wrote: From: Renee Cummings <rcummi1123@rogers.com> Subject: Re: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska To: quebec@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 11:50 AM The parents of these children were RRDH Couple   JOSEPH  THIBODEAU  Father : JEAN BAPTISTE  THIBODEAU   Mother : MARIE FRANCOISE  BABIN  and     MARIE JOSEPHE  COTE  Father : PIERRE  COTE   Mother : MARIE JOSEPHE  ALBERT  Marriage:  1795-09-28    L'Isle-Verte ==================== I check RAB du PRDH and found no children born to the couple before 1799. Joseph's parents were from Acadie. Union 1762-02-22 Acadie  THIBODEAU  JEAN-BAPTISTE & BABIN  MARIE-FRANCOISE Maybe Joseph & his wife moved out Quebec for a period. Joseph's brother Etienne married Judith Paradis in 1795 (same year as Joseph) in Kamouraska and she died St-Basile NB in 1820 Good luck Renee  -----Original Message----- From: quebec-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Russell Dorr Sent: March-17-10 10:52 AM To: quebec@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska Check this interesting page at URL http://search.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=1110&path=S.St-Basile.1792- 1837.44&sid=&gskw=&cr=1. Looks like there were no sacraments performed at St-Basile between 1799 and 1803, if I read it correctly (I never attended French school, unfortunately). They were covered at St-André as suggested in another post. I checked 1800 (24 pages) St-André and nothing. Looks as though the priest "covered" things by performing late baptisms, and he got the birth days incorrect for one or both of them. It would seem likely that since he had exact month and days, that one was off by a year. Probably asked how old each was then subtracted incorrectly. So my plan is to use the Simon Thibodeau birth date with explanation. It would seem Firmin/Fermin was the older brother; perhaps he was born in 1799 (I'll check PRDH). Thanks for an interesting and helpful discussion on this.   Bud --- On Tue, 3/16/10, Fr John L <owentagart@aol.com> wrote: From: Fr John L <owentagart@aol.com> Subject: Re: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska To: quebec@rootsweb.com, QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 11:15 PM The answer to that question, Bud, is obvious to every woman on this list, and one that is learned rather quickly by most clergy who perform baptisms:  premature birth of the second child. Fr John L . . Search the Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC . Browse the Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ . A link to a favorite site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       . . Search the Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC . Browse the Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ . A link to a favorite site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The parents of these children were RRDH Couple JOSEPH THIBODEAU Father : JEAN BAPTISTE THIBODEAU Mother : MARIE FRANCOISE BABIN and MARIE JOSEPHE COTE Father : PIERRE COTE Mother : MARIE JOSEPHE ALBERT Marriage: 1795-09-28 L'Isle-Verte ==================== I check RAB du PRDH and found no children born to the couple before 1799. Joseph's parents were from Acadie. Union 1762-02-22 Acadie THIBODEAU JEAN-BAPTISTE & BABIN MARIE-FRANCOISE Maybe Joseph & his wife moved out Quebec for a period. Joseph's brother Etienne married Judith Paradis in 1795 (same year as Joseph) in Kamouraska and she died St-Basile NB in 1820 Good luck Renee -----Original Message----- From: quebec-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quebec-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Russell Dorr Sent: March-17-10 10:52 AM To: quebec@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska Check this interesting page at URL http://search.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=1110&path=S.St-Basile.1792- 1837.44&sid=&gskw=&cr=1. Looks like there were no sacraments performed at St-Basile between 1799 and 1803, if I read it correctly (I never attended French school, unfortunately). They were covered at St-André as suggested in another post. I checked 1800 (24 pages) St-André and nothing. Looks as though the priest "covered" things by performing late baptisms, and he got the birth days incorrect for one or both of them. It would seem likely that since he had exact month and days, that one was off by a year. Probably asked how old each was then subtracted incorrectly. So my plan is to use the Simon Thibodeau birth date with explanation. It would seem Firmin/Fermin was the older brother; perhaps he was born in 1799 (I'll check PRDH). Thanks for an interesting and helpful discussion on this.   Bud --- On Tue, 3/16/10, Fr John L <owentagart@aol.com> wrote: From: Fr John L <owentagart@aol.com> Subject: Re: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska To: quebec@rootsweb.com, QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 11:15 PM The answer to that question, Bud, is obvious to every woman on this list, and one that is learned rather quickly by most clergy who perform baptisms:  premature birth of the second child. Fr John L

The baptisms of Firmin Theodule and Simon Maxime Thibeaudeau are recorded on Drouin Image 79, folio 28 (verso) and folio 29 (recto), respectively. Both, as we have seen previously, are listed as being baptised on 18 March 1806. The last image in March and the first in April are recorded on Drouin image 89. The former: Bapteme de Marguerite Emerentienne Martin, vingt et un Mars de l'an mil huit cent six; the latter, Bapteme de Christophe Aiot, le quatre Avril de l'an mil huit cent six. Conclusion: It is clear that Messire Charles Hott followed the Gregorian Calendar. I was rather hoping that there would be baptisms recorded on March 24 and 26, since the Feast of the Annunciation (March 25) marked the beginning of the Julian Calendar new year. No such luck! Fr John L -----Original Message----- From: Jean Larrivee <imbona2006@videotron.ca> To: quebec@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Mar 17, 2010 11:06 am Subject: Re: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska Please consider this venerable old scribe as being from this ancient school hat did not make any difference at the beginning of those early years such s Jan, Feb and Mar 1799/1800. So Firmin Theodule could have been born on he 12 January 1799/1800. . earch the Archives: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC rowse the Archives: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ link to a favorite site: ttp://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

The baptisms of Firmin Theodule and Simon Maxime Thibeaudeau are recorded on Drouin Image 79, folio 28 (verso) and folio 29 (recto), respectively. Both, as we have seen previously, are listed as being baptised on 18 March 1806. The last image in March and the first in April are recorded on Drouin image 89. The former: Bapteme de Marguerite Emerentienne Martin, vingt et un Mars de l'an mil huit cent six; the latter, Bapteme de Christophe Aiot, le quatre Avril de l'an mil huit cent six. Conclusion: It is clear that Messire Charles Hott followed the Gregorian Calendar. I was rather hoping that there would be baptisms recorded on March 24 and 26, since the Feast of the Annunciation (March 25) marked the beginning of the Julian Calendar new year. No such luck! Fr John L -----Original Message----- From: Jean Larrivee <imbona2006@videotron.ca> To: quebec@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Mar 17, 2010 11:06 am Subject: Re: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska Please consider this venerable old scribe as being from this ancient school hat did not make any difference at the beginning of those early years such s Jan, Feb and Mar 1799/1800. So Firmin Theodule could have been born on he 12 January 1799/1800. . earch the Archives: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=QUEBEC rowse the Archives: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC/ link to a favorite site: ttp://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUEBEC-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message