FROM PRDH ..Parents and siblings etc for a couple that marred in Michilamackinac. of PIERRE RENAUD LOCAS Death : 1713-01-25 Burial : 1713-01-26 Grondines Father : JEAN RENAUD Mother : MARIE LAURENCE Couple and MARIE FRANCOISE DESPORTES Death : 1736-04-12 Burial : 1736-04-13 Grondines Father : JEAN DESPORTES Mother : ISABELLE DEGIBRUSE Couple Marriage: 1669-11-05 Lieu indéterminé (au Québec) Children married before 1800 : e First name of the child Place of miage Name of the spouse m 1711-09-15 PIERRE QUÉBEC [Couple] MARIE ELISABETH ISABELLE LAMBERT CHAMPAGNE f 1694-05-02 MARIE FRANCOISE GRONDINES [Couple] JEAN FRANCOIS JOBIN BOISVERT f Before 1702-06-11 MARGUERITE LIEU INDÉTERMINÉ (AU QUÉBEC) [Couple] RAYMOND CHESNE LAGRAVE f 1703-06-14 MARIE CHÂTEAU-RICHER [Couple] JEAN BAPTISTE MALBOEUF BEAUSOLEIL f 1699-09-08 MARIE ANNE MONTRÉAL [Couple] FRANCOIS RIQUET LAVERDURE f 1700-10-18 MARIE ANTOINE L'ANGE-GARDIEN [Couple] JEAN RICHARD m 1711-11-26 LOUIS BOUCHERVILLE [Couple] MARIE ANGELIQUE DEMERS DUMAIS f 1706-10-18 MARIE LOUISE CHÂTEAU-RICHER [Couple] CLAUDE JODOIN m 1724-01-13 JACQUES GRONDINES [Couple] MARIE MADELEINE GIPOULOU LAFLEUR m 1715-05-02 FRANCOIS ST-FRANÇOIS-DE-SALES (ÎLE-JÉSUS) [Couple] MARIE THERESE GAREAU STONGE f 1727-01-07 MARIE JEANNE TERREBONNE [Couple] CHARLES BIRON f 1715-01-07 MARIE MADELEINE ST-FRANÇOIS-DE-SALES (ÎLE-JÉSUS) [Couple] PIERRE GAREAU STONGE m 1739-07-21 PIERRE MICHILIMACKINAC [Couple] MARIE JOSEPHE CHEVALIER © PRDH www.genealogy.umontreal.ca __________________________________________________ Pierre Renaud Locas that married in Michilmackinac family: Appears they had thier children in Quebec Source: http://www.genealogie.umontreal.ca/en/member/Famille.asp?21322 Family [Couple] of PIERRE RENAUD LOCAS Father : PIERRE RENAUD LOCAS Mother : MARIE FRANCOISE DESPORTES <A HREF="http://www.genealogie.umontrFamily and MARIE JOSEPHE CHEVALIER Father : JEAN BAPTISTE CHEVALIER Mother : MARIE FRANCOISE ALAVOINE Family Marriage: 1739-07-21 Michilimackinac Chidren born before 1766 : Sex Birth Marriage m 1740-07-07 PIERRE RENE LAPRAIRIE f 1742-09-21 1742-11-03 MARIE JOSEPHE LAPRAIRIE LAPRAIRIE m 1744-02-17 1744-02-22 FRANCOIS TERREBONNE TERREBONNE m 1744-02-17 1744-02-22 CHARLES TERREBONNE TERREBONNE © PRDH Hope this helps someone! Any Questions? ask! Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore kingsley@aol.com

Ste-Beatrix is in Joliette Co and was founded in 1861. Good luck Renée -----Original Message----- From: R. J. Wespiser [mailto:bobwes@adelphia.net] Sent: June 25, 2004 4:00 PM To: QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [QUEBEC] Ste-Beatrix Can SKS tell me what County Ste-Beatrix is in? And where I can find that reference on line. TIA Bob W

Can SKS tell me what County Ste-Beatrix is in? And where I can find that reference on line. TIA Bob W

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Bonjour & Aloha, Anybody have info on the parents of Clemence LEROUX born about 1822 possibly at St-Leger? Hopefully one of you has access to BMS2000. Also would like to know where St-Leger is located? Merci, le Hawien-francais

Did the Prosper Clement have a dit name of Lorrain/Lorraine etc I have a few Clement's in my data base from St. Louis, Mo and some have the dit name of Lorrain Pat

Would anyone have any ships list of arrivals from France around 1840-1850. Casimir Rochelle was a saddler. I believe as well he was a French Hugenot. I don't know if he and his wife Anna were married in France, Canada or America. Ed Hagerty Monroe, CT

Forwarded by List Administrator... Please respond to the List. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Clement" <dave@coloradoclement.com> To: <QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:58 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Prosper Clement, Born Oct 18, 1831 > Seeking any information on Prosper Clement, born Oct 18, 1831 at Point > Claire, Quebec. Parents Gabriel Clement and Susanne Pilon. Baptized at Ste. > Genevieve Catholic Church. I have so far discovered nothing further on > Prosper. Other members of family migrated to Illinois mid-1800s. Any > information appreciated. > >

Hi Jim, I rather doubt that you'll be able to find English transcriptions of birth and marriage records outside of what is found in the PRDH certificates. Perhaps you were sent copies that were made from microfilm and not as sharp as they might be. You might find more legible copies in the LDS film for Blairfindie; I've used #1031781 for 1784-1860 and it wasn't too bad. Another thing I should mention is that while Mathilde is listed as DUMAS on p. 174 of the marriage rep, the cross-listing on p. 56 shows her as Mathilde DULUDE, d/o Nicolas and Julienne TREMBLAY. They also married at Ste-Marguerite in 1803 so you might find her birth record there as well. I have most of the THUOT/BETOURNE births and marriages (from the PRDH and the marriage rep) so let me know if you would like that data. Cheers, Jackie Hostage

Friends: Information about any Mannings descended from the early Empire Loyalists is desired. Also, information wanted on a Esther (Mrs. Gilbert) Manning who might have died in Quebec in early October of 1900. Forrest Manning fcgmvt@sover.net

Hope somebody can help. Joseph Thuot dit Duval was an ancestor of mine who was married 3 times. All 3 marriages were celebrated at the Parish of Ste-Marguerite-de-Blairfindie (L'Acadie) in Quebec. 1st marriage: Catherine Power on November 14, 1808 2nd marriage: Elisabeth Dupille on May 1, 1810 3rd marriage: Mathilde Dumas on January 29, 1839 Joseph was baptized under the name of Joseph Hyacinthe Thuot in St. Philippe-de-Laprairie on March 9, 1789. He was the son of Toussaint Thuot dit Duval and Marie Betourne who were married in the Parish of Longueuil on June 17, 1782. I received some marriage documents on Joseph from the Archives Nationales du Quebec but are all handwritten in French and just about impossible to read. I've had a few French people try to decifer them and were not able to get much out of them. Hope someone can suggest where I can get some information such as birth certificates and marriage licenses in English. Jim Duval

Forwarded by List Administrator Please respond to the List ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom White" <tcwhite@sover.net> To: <ACGSTalk@yahoogroups.com>; <QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: "John Fisher" <jrfisher@adelphia.net>; "Michael Sevigny" <SevignyM@BioTek.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 7:20 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [TalkACGS] A "Messalliance" Marriage > One obvious reason to characterize the match between PREVOST and QUESSEY as a "messalliance", was probably that the latter Acadian family descended from Roger Casey (Caissey, Kuessey, etc.), an Irish, not French immigrant to Acadia. The main branch of the family had settled in the area of Beaubassin before "Le Grand Derangement". At least one branch of the family, (through Roger's son Jean) was in Quebec City before the exile; between 1742 and 1754 when one of Jean's daughters married Gabriel Messaguay there. I suspect Marie-Luce is part of this family, with a well-known Irish grandfather. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jerry Lesperance > To: ACGS ; QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com > Cc: John Fisher ; Michael Sevigny > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 12:21 AM > Subject: [TalkACGS] A "Messalliance" Marriage > > > Thought some of you might want to hear of a weird event that I ran across in preparing my paper relating to the French soldiers who were in the Seven Years War (French and Indian War). > Jean-Baptiste Guillaume PREVOST (or PERROT), Sieur of Basserodes, Chevalier of the St-Louis Cross, and Captain in the Languedoc Regiment, was married to Marie-Luce QUESSY , an Acadian and widow of Jean-Baptiste CIRE (or CYR), on 20 Sept 1760 at Deschambault, with pastor MENAGE officiating. In a letter to Fr. Menage dated 1 Dec 1760, the diocesan Vicar-General, Fr. Briand found it surprising that an experienced, respectable and reputable pastor of the diocese celebrated the marriage of M. de BASSERODES with negligence in employing the prescribed procedures. M. Levis, then Commander of all French soldiers in North America, did not grant any grace (favors) to BASSERODES when he returned to France because the marriage was a "mesalliance" (mismatch) for a Chevalier of St-Louis. > > I couldn't find much on Marie-Luce except PRDH tells us that she and BASSERODES attended the baptism of Jean-Baptiste Archange GIDE (son of a soldier in BASSERODES' Company) on 26 Sept 1760 at Batiscan. She was shown as the widow of CIRE (CYR) and not as the wife of BASSERODES. > > Go figure. > > Jerry > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: ACGSTalk@Yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: ACGSTalk-subscribe@Yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: ACGSTalk-unsubscribe@Yahoogroups.com > List owner: ACGSTalk-owner@Yahoogroups.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ACGSTalk > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ACGSTalk/ > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > ACGSTalk-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > >

Doubtful you'll find the certificates wrapped up in a nice English package like you seem to want. Translation of the original documents is not usually a tough job because the format is fairly standard. Either scan and send the documents to me by e-mail at jlesperance@hawai.rr.com or if you need to send photocopies by postal mail use: G. Lesperance, 98-864 Laelua Place, Aiea, Hawaii 96701. I wonder, though, if you already have the key information from the documents, and photocopies of the originals, why you need an English translation. I got into French-Canadian genealogy at age 61 and soon learned that I couldn't do any basic research without some knowledge of French. I then took 4 semesters at a local community college. So if you are going to do much F-C genealogy you should think about learning some French. As I said, the format of the key documents such as baptism, marriage and burial are fairly standard thus a researcher doesn't have to be all that fluent. Further most of the key French words in these documents make sense even if you don't speak French, for instance, sepulchre or inhume=buried; marie=married. Jerry

In my St-Antoine-de-la-Riviere-du-Loup marriage records: Antoine Lemire of St.Jos., Maskinonge married Josette Dupuis, of same place, 24 Nov 1795. Antoine's parents were Jos. Antoine Lemire & M. Anne Lacharite. Josette's parents, Charles & Genenvieve Desserre (deceased). I have come across a problem that I'm hoping can be solved This is what I have in my database: Antoine LEMIRE-GAUCHER s/o Alexis LEMIRE & Madeleine Charlotte DESERRE m. Nov 24 1795 Louiseville, Maskinonge, Quebec Josephte M. DUPUIS-dit-GILBERT d/o Charles DUPUIS-GILBERT & Genevieve DESERRE Best Bill posted from Blue Drouin... Antoine LEMIRE s/o Antoine LEMIRE and Anne LACHARITE m. Nov 24 1795 Louiseville, Maskinonge, Quebec Josephte DUPRAS-PROUX d/o Charles DUPRAS-PROUX & Genevieve DESERRE Now at 1st glance they look different but then... they look similar. -Both Antoine's and Josephte's getting married. -Both ladies have a mother named Genevieve DESERRE and a father named Charles - Both marriages on the same day. Do I have the correct parents or are these 2 different marriages?

I have come across a problem that I'm hoping can be solved This is what I have in my database: Antoine LEMIRE-GAUCHER s/o Alexis LEMIRE & Madeleine Charlotte DESERRE m. Nov 24 1795 Louiseville, Maskinonge, Quebec Josephte M. DUPUIS-dit-GILBERT d/o Charles DUPUIS-GILBERT & Genevieve DESERRE Best Bill posted from Blue Drouin... Antoine LEMIRE s/o Antoine LEMIRE and Anne LACHARITE m. Nov 24 1795 Louiseville, Maskinonge, Quebec Josephte DUPRAS-PROUX d/o Charles DUPRAS-PROUX & Genevieve DESERRE Now at 1st glance they look different but then... they look similar. -Both Antoine's and Josephte's getting married. -Both ladies have a mother named Genevieve DESERRE and a father named Charles - Both marriages on the same day. Do I have the correct parents or are these 2 different marriages?

Dear Readers, Can someone give me the marriage date and/or place for Jean Baptiste LeBlanc married to Sophie Barlow? Believe the time period would be abt. 1830. Thank you. Lorraine fkanary@comcast.net

Courtesy of Jerry from Hawaii: PRDH has only one 1795 marriage for Antoine LEMIRE: Couple 353056 Rivière-du-Loup (Louiseville) 1795-11-24 Rank Name Age M.S. Pr. Sex 01 ANTOINE LEMIRE Residence : ST-JOSEPH-DE-MASKINONGE --- c p m -------------------------------------------------------------------- 02 JOSEPHE DUPUIS Residence : MASKINONGE --- c p f -------------------------------------------------------------------- 03 JOSEPH ANTOINE LEMIRE FATHER OF 01 --- --- --- m -------------------------------------------------------------------- 04 MARIE ANNE LACHARITE MOTHER OF 01 --- --- --- f -------------------------------------------------------------------- 05 CHARLES DUPUIS FATHER OF 02 --- --- --- m -------------------------------------------------------------------- 06 GENEVIEVE DESSERRE MOTHER OF 02 --- --- d f -------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is what I have in my database: > Antoine LEMIRE-GAUCHER > s/o Alexis LEMIRE & Madeleine Charlotte DESERRE > m. Nov 24 1795 Louiseville, Maskinonge, Quebec > Josephte M. DUPUIS-dit-GILBERT > d/o Charles DUPUIS-GILBERT & Genevieve DESERRE > > Best Bill posted from Blue Drouin... > Antoine LEMIRE > s/o Antoine LEMIRE and Anne LACHARITE > m. Nov 24 1795 Louiseville, Maskinonge, Quebec > Josephte DUPRAS-PROUX > d/o Charles DUPRAS-PROUX & Genevieve DESERRE > > Now at 1st glance they look different but then... they look similar. > -Both Antoine's and Josephte's getting married. > -Both ladies have a mother named Genevieve DESERRE > and a father named Charles > - Both marriages on the same day. > > Do I have the correct parents or are these 2 different marriages?

I am looking for additional information on the James Thompson and Rose Dorsay (or'Rose D’Orsey) described in this obituary. The couple was married in 1839 place TBD and they ultimately settled in Normandale, Charlotteville Township. Obituary for James Thompson: The Late James Thompson James Thomson, 87, died 19 Apr 1900 at his home near Normandale, Norfolk County, Ontario. On Saturday afternoon the mortal remains of Mr. James Thompson were conveyed to their last resting place in the cemetery at Normandale, after an impressive service conducted by the Rev. Mr. Robertson, Presbyterian Minister, of Port Dover. Mr. Thompson had many friends and many followed his remains to their last resting place. The pal-bearers were his five sons and one grandson. He was born in the town land of Leam, county of Fermanagh, Ireland, on October 15th, 1813, and was 87 years old at the time of his death. He left Ireland at 18 years of age and landed in Quebec in 1835. He volunteered in the rebellion of 1836 under command of Captain Walter Anderson. In 1839 he married Miss Rosa Dorsay and settled on lot 11, concession A of Charloteville, and has lived on the same farm over fifty years.

Hi list; Im wondering if someone could help me find the date of marriage for my wife's grandparents, Armand Lacroix and Clementine Ethier, who were assumed to have been married in Lachine, Quebec in 1912-1919 or the early twenties. Merci John Tracy Pt. Alberni, BC

Aloha Pam, You have company. I am of 100 % F-C ancestry and have 3 brick walls in my ancestry...all at the g-g-grandparent level and all involving VT. You might want to take a look at my paper at http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/FrenchCanadianMigration.html which was specifically written to try to help people like you trying to make the VT back to Quebec linkage in the 1800's. There were only two Catholic churches in VT before 1850....one in Burlington and one in St. Albans...and both were established to serve a predominantly Irish Catholic congregation. Some F-C avoided "Irish" churches. So there is a good possibility that your g-grandparents were either married in Quebec, or by a Quebec missionary making the rounds in VT, or in a non-Catholic ceremony in VT. Please send me direct (jlesperance@hawaii.rr.com) their full names, including your g-grandmother's maiden name, and the best guess as to when they were married. (And the birth date and place of any of their children.) Have you had a search made of the VT archives? They are quite good. I can probably arrange to have a VT friend do a search for you if you give me the details that I have asked for. I have a few unique 19th C VT resources and will search here within the next week. Please don't assume that the l'Assomption SARRAZIN's are your ancestors. The town of l'Assomption is in the County of l'Assomption. The name of the church in those days was St-Pierre du Portage but it doesn't exist today. "Portage" relates to the carrying of canoes overland at points in the river that were not navigable. A dit for SARRAZIN is DELPELTEAU. Also "sarrasin" translates to "buckwheat" which is a variant in the U.S. for the surname. Jerry, Hawaii > Hello, > I am again beginning to search for information on my father's side of my > family. I have thus far been able to find my great grandparents, living in > Vermont in 1840.