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Hello Again, I can't seem to find the English version for the name Cerinthe, can anyone tell me? Thanks, Pam

Pam, not all French given names have an English version. I've never run across it as a given name. I checked PRDH and it didn't appear in Quebec records prior to 1800. The best place that I know of for English & Latin variations of French given names is at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~afgs/givenname.html . "Cerinthe" is not there. Jerry, Hawaii ----- Original Message ----- From: <bobbi517@sbcglobal.net> I can't seem to find the English version for the name Cerinthe, can anyone tell me?

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Hi; I don't know too much about the other names, but some Desjardins were also known as Roy, or Roy-dit-Desjardins. The Roy-Desjardins family settled first around the Quebec City/Lauzon area while the other Desjardins family settled just north of Montreal (Rivière-des-Prairies, Terrebonne, Ste-Thérèse, Ste-Rose to name a few places). For other dit names, you could consult the American-French Genealogical Society's web site at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~afgs/index1.html which gives a list of the "dit" names plus the English variants of some names that seemed to be in use in the US. Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: <bobbi517@sbcglobal.net> To: <QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 4:14 PM Subject: [QUEBEC] Another question & Kuddos to Jerry > I want to thank everyone for their help each time I need it. The site's > recommended have been very helpful, but, I am still having a little problem > with names that don't seem to have an origin. Can anyone give me any insite > as to the > names Cinq- Mrs, Bessette, Diette, Desjardins, Dandurand, Crochetiere, > Contois, just to name a few. > Are they a spin off of another name or are these names > a substitution for another? > > I have, on the suggestion of Jerry Lesperance ordered a couple of books that > may give me the answers when I get them, but while waiting, if some kind > soul would have a little time and could give me some insite, it would be > most appreciated. > I would also like to take this time to give BIG "KUDDOS" > to Jerry. He was the link that enabled me, after 15 years of reseach to find > my family back to the 1680's. There is only one marriage that has kept me > from absolutely determining my ancestry and Jerry was able to help me > understand why I may never find that marriage. The other circumstances, same > names, places and other information. although circumstancial, proves to me > that the family information he sent me, is the same family. He is in the > process of helping me locate the gggrandmother's line now, and I cannot > express enough how very grateful I am. He and other's like him, who take > time out to help someone else, there just aren't enough of that kind of > people in this world anymore. > All I can do besides say a big "Thank You", is to pass it on. If I can help > someone else in their research, well my gratitude is shown by passing it on. > That's what we all need from time to time. Human kindness and help. That's > what he showed me and one day I can do the same for another. > Thank You Again Jerry for all you do for other's and for giving back to > other's. You make this world a better place for all your generosity. Pam > Harbison

Bonsoir Judith, Yes, this couple had a son named Joseph, born 1-14-1785 in Ancienne-Lorette. Louise's name was BUSSIER. Gilles Gariépy Judith a écrit: > Bonjour, > > Charles Valin and Marie Louise Byssiere were married 24 Oct 1774 at St. Augustin-Portneuf. Does anyone have information if he had a son Joseph? If so, when and where was the child born? > > Merci, > > Judith > > ==== QUEBEC Mailing List ==== > The QUEBEC mail list archives: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=quebec > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/QUEBEC-L/

I have some Bessette's in my family tree. They live in Leominster, MA. If interested, please contact me. Elizabeth

Bonjour, Charles Valin and Marie Louise Byssiere were married 24 Oct 1774 at St. Augustin-Portneuf. Does anyone have information if he had a son Joseph? If so, when and where was the child born? Merci, Judith

I want to thank everyone for their help each time I need it. The site's recommended have been very helpful, but, I am still having a little problem with names that don't seem to have an origin. Can anyone give me any insite as to the names Cinq- Mrs, Bessette, Diette, Desjardins, Dandurand, Crochetiere, Contois, just to name a few. Are they a spin off of another name or are these names a substitution for another? I have, on the suggestion of Jerry Lesperance ordered a couple of books that may give me the answers when I get them, but while waiting, if some kind soul would have a little time and could give me some insite, it would be most appreciated. I would also like to take this time to give BIG "KUDDOS" to Jerry. He was the link that enabled me, after 15 years of reseach to find my family back to the 1680's. There is only one marriage that has kept me from absolutely determining my ancestry and Jerry was able to help me understand why I may never find that marriage. The other circumstances, same names, places and other information. although circumstancial, proves to me that the family information he sent me, is the same family. He is in the process of helping me locate the gggrandmother's line now, and I cannot express enough how very grateful I am. He and other's like him, who take time out to help someone else, there just aren't enough of that kind of people in this world anymore. All I can do besides say a big "Thank You", is to pass it on. If I can help someone else in their research, well my gratitude is shown by passing it on. That's what we all need from time to time. Human kindness and help. That's what he showed me and one day I can do the same for another. Thank You Again Jerry for all you do for other's and for giving back to other's. You make this world a better place for all your generosity. Pam Harbison

I would like to know more about the RICARD/ JOLY family that are the ancestors of Marie Amable Ricard. Marie Amable Ricard b. 1779 ( daugher of Jean-Baptiste Ricard and Marie Joly) married Jean Desilets Mousseau 01-03-1802 at St. Jacques d. died 15 SEP 1869 in Negaunee, Marquette, Michigan Marie Amable and Jean had the following children: ( all in the St. Jacques records) 1. Marie Madelaide 26 March 1802 2. Eustache 1804-1813 3. Abraham 1807-1810 4. Michel Mousseaux 04 July 1811 d. . 27 April 1897 Brasher NY ( The name became Mousaw/Mousso in NY) Marie Amable Ricard then remarried to Francois LaRiviere b. 21 July 1779 (Alexis LaRiviere sp- 10 Feb 1772 Elisabeth/ Elizabeth/Isabelle DURIVAGE/DESRIVAGES JETTE/JETTE at Repentigny, L’Assomption, Quebec) m. October 18, 1814 in St. Jacques de Montcalm, Montcalm Quebec 1. Israel Rivers b. 30 Oct 1821 in NY d. April 24 1904 in Eagle Creek OR m. Hanna Clopper? 2. Luke Rivers b. 24 April 1822 d. 20 Mar 1884 m. Mary Langley( b. 7 Oct 1830 d. 20 March 1891)

Couple of JEAN BAPTISTE RICARD RICHARD Father : MICHEL RICARD RICHARD Mother : MARIE BARBE COITOU STJEAN Couple and MARIE JEANNE JOLY DELBEC Father : ANTOINE JOLY DELBEC Mother : MARIE AMABLE CHARBONNEAU Couple Marriage: 1774-11-21 L'Assomption Couple [Family] of MICHEL RICARD RICHARD Death : 1778-11-21 Burial : 1778-11-22 L'Assomption Father : JEAN BAPTISTE RICARD RICHARD Mother : MARIE LOUISE MORNEAU Couple and MARIE BARBE COITOU STJEAN Father : PIERRE COITOU STJEAN Mother : MARIE VENNE Couple Next marriage with LOUIS GAUTHIER LANDREVILLE Marriage: 1742-07-02 L'Assomption Children married before 1800 : Sex Date of marriage First name of the child Place of marriage Name of the spouse f 1765-01-14 MARIE THERESE CATHERINE L'ASSOMPTION [Couple] PIERRE JOSEPH MARIE PAYET STAMOUR f 1774-01-17 MARIE ARCHANGE L'ASSOMPTION [Couple] JACQUES FRANCOIS MARSAN LAPIERRE m 1774-11-21 JEAN BAPTISTE L'ASSOMPTION [Couple] MARIE JEANNE JOLY DELBEC m 1792-11-20 FRANCOIS L'ASSOMPTION [Couple] MARIE PELAGIE LANDRY © PRDH www.genealogy.umontreal.ca Jette: Jean RICARD (s/o Jean & of Madeleine PINEAU) married Marie-Louise MORNEAU (d/o Jean & of Genevieve TRU) 11 Feb 1708 at Ste-Anne-de-la-Perade. Jean RICARD (origins & parents unknown) married Madeleine PINEAU (d/o Pierre & of Anne BOYER) about 1675 at Ste-Anne-de-la-Perade Suggest you go to http://www.genealogie.umontreal.ca/en/acces.htm and subscribe if you want more about events in Quebec before 1800. Jerry, Hawaii

Hi and Happy 4th to all, I have a couple of questions I am hoping someone can answer for me. While looking through some death records I have I found a reference to a person by the name of Alfred Duprat who died as a young child. His mother's name was Evelina Pariseau. Then it list's the witnesses as: Louis Pariseau, grandfather (I understand, this could be the mother's father but then it lists the father as) and Alfred Pariseau, father of the child. The father's name is Alfred Duprat. Am I correct in concluding Pariseau is a "dit" for Duprat or the other way around? Also, the English for Duprat could it also be Pratt? Thanks for any help. I think I have most of my relatives in my data base, but I think they are probably listed under a "dit" name and I have no clue. Is there a book someone may suggest for the different "dit" names and/or English translations for them? TIA, Pam Harbison

The West Coast Quebec Genealogy Group is meeting this Saturday, July 10, 10:00 - noonish, in the upstairs room at the BCGS Resource Centre 12837-76th Avenue, #211, Surrey, BC 604-502-9119 We're an informal group of amateur genealogists who research in a variety of areas... Filles a Marier, Filles du Roi, Carignan-Salieres Regiment, Acadians, Hessians, French-Canadians, as well as Scots, English and Irish in Quebec. If you live in the Vancouver area or if you're going to be in the area, come and meet other researchers, and share your successes, brick walls and resources over a cup of coffee. Date of future meeting: August 14. Autumn schedule is not set yet. There's a drop-in fee of $2.00 which goes towards purchasing Quebec resources (Drouin films, repertoires, other books, etc) which will be housed in the BCGS library. Remember to bring a mug, we'll have the coffee. If you'd like more information, please e-mail me. Also, I can forward directions on how to get to the BCGS Resource Centre. Linda Linda Maguire Maitland White Rock (Vancouver), BC

http://www.rootsweb.com/~canbc/vote1898/voters98.htm Found this in my travels. Hope it will help someone. Doris

Posted by Jacques l'HEUREUX on the FRANCO-AMERICAN List ***************************************************** Bangor Daily News By Beurmond Banville, Monday, June 28, 2004 Setting foot on L'Isle Sainte Croix in the middle of the St. Croix River, 125 invited visitors arrived Saturday morning at a sandy beach on the south end, speaking in hushed tones amid what has become sacred ground. The 6.5-acre island is U.S. territory now, run by the National Park Service, and few people are allowed to walk around the site, which is the burial ground for 35 of the French explorers who died their first winter in North America 400 years ago. A 35-step stairway leads to the upper island, where the explorers developed gardens and a settlement. "You are standing in the footprints of those men, many of [whom] are interred here, the original settlers who arrived here 400 years ago," said Park Service staffer Mike Furmari in French and English shortly after 7 a.m. Saturday. "Bienvenue a [welcome to] Sainte Croix." Saturday's visitors seemed aware they were in a special place. The burial ground, located on a small, grassed-over area on the southern end of the island, is nearly the only evidence of the colony. As the morning mist turned to rain during Saturday's ceremonies, the solemnity of the commemoration was clear: No one left until the ceremonies were completed. The settlers' French descendants consider the settlement the beginning of their lives in North America. The island is visible off Red Beach, from U.S. Route 1, about eight miles south of Calais. The National Park Service has created an onshore interpretive park to tell the story of the settlement. The expedition, led by Pierre Dugua, Sieur de Mons and explorer Samuel de Champlain, landed on the island on June 26, 1604. They were aboard two galleons and three smaller ships. The resulting settlement included 12 to 15 buildings. During the winter, one of the harshest on record, nearly half of the 79-man expedition died of scurvy, malnutrition and exposure. The first snowstorm struck on Oct. 6, and they were in snow until April 1605. The colony moved that June to Port Royal, Nova Scotia. The St. Croix settlement existed three years before the English colony at Jamestown, Va., in 1607 and well before the Plymouth colony in Massachusetts. A white flag signifying the Bourbon monarchy of 17th century France flies on the northern end of the island where the buildings were located. Several memorials with information on the settlement can be found scattered about the island. On Saturday, members of the Passamaquoddy Tribe and officials of the United States, Canada and France exchanged gifts, took part in Indian purification rites and presented a short history of the settlement during the meeting of two worlds, 400 years later. The one-hour ceremony was conducted in French, English and Indian languages. The island was chosen because of good anchorage, its environment and because it could be easily fortified against expected English or Spanish expeditions. When Francois Gravier du Pont, a fur merchant and ship captain, left the expedition on the island in August 1604, his ship loaded with fish and furs, he was the only European at the time who knew the location of the settlement. "When I returned the following spring with supplies, I found death, 35 of my friends had died," said Furmari, who appeared as Gravier. "It had been very cold, and they had suffered a lack of food and wood. "Their way to the mainland had been cut off by dangerous river ice," he said. "More may have died had it not been for the Indians on the mainland who brought them food and wood." The Passamaquoddy were thanked for the efforts of their ancestors. Mark Altaveter, lieutenant governor of the Pleasant Point Passamaquoddy, Robert Newell, governor of Indian Township, both in Maine, and Hugh Akagi, chief of the St. Andrews, New Brunswick, Passamaquoddy, received the medal of France's Legion of Honor and swords from Xavier Darcos, minister delegate of cooperation, development and francophony, France's representative to the commemoration. The American Indians, in turn, presented gifts. They also presented a resolution, printed on birch bark, to France to continue the Treaty of Friendship approved years ago. Blanche Sockabasin, a drummer and singer, and Joan Dana, spiritual mother of the Passamaquoddy, both from Peter Dana Point, burned sage and performed purification rites on the island before dignitaries arrived. They also performed the purification on many who attended the ceremony. "The Passamaquoddys were already here for thousands of years, and their action possibly saved many of the French who survived here," noted U.S. Rep. Michael Michaud, D-Maine. "This is an event of special meaning," he said at the ceremony. "St. Croix has not received its place in history." For more information on the Ste-Croix anniversary, see http://www.francoamericanconnection.com/st-croix/

To all my American friends... Happy 4th of July !!!!!!!!!!!!! Go to this web site and click the sky multiple times and fast.... http://www.njagyouth.org/liberty.htm From Gary Boivin (Canadian)

Looking for marriage and parents of: Paul COURNOYER and Marie VERVILLE abt 1830 in PQ. Their daughter Sophie Cournoyer married Joseph Paul-Hus 6 Nov 1849 St-Pierre-de-Sorel, Richelieu, PQ TIA, Bob Wespiser in Naples, Maine

Looking for parents of: Francois PAUL-HUS and Pelagie PAGE who married 4 June 1832, St-Pierre-de-Sorel, Richelieu, PQ. Their son Joseph Paul-Hus married Sophie Cournoyer 6 Nov 1849 St-Pierre-de-Sorel, Richelieu, PQ TIA, Bob Wespiser in Naples, Maine

I was wondering if anyone could please help me with a dead end in my research. My great grandmother Rosemary Arnold was born in Quebec december 1875 I have no idea where. Her parents were Marea Eber or Hebert and Robert Arnold. She married Joseph William Byers from Ontario (Durham) and eventually ended up in BC my grandmother Evelyn Byers was born in North Vancouver she married John Stelmock. Any help would be soooo appretiated. Rosemary seems to be dark in complexion eyes hair face . I not sure if she may have some metis.