Hoping someone can help me locate the marriage of John Doyle and Mary Deir. Family history has it that they eloped to Montreal. All attempts to find this marriage in Eastern Ontario have been fruitless. Their first four children were baptized at the Catholic church in Gananoque, Ontario, and the entries state " of the lawful marriage of..". The first child baptized was on March 2, 1865, being born 19 Feb., 1865. So the marriage timing would appear to fall into the range of the Fall of 1863 or the winter of 1863/64. Are there microfilms for churches of that time available, say, at LDS? Being Irish they would probably gone to a church that ministered to the Irish population. John's parents were Thomas Doyle and Anne Fortune. Mary's were John Deir and Catherine Lloyd. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Paul Cote

Hey Best, This is my territory. Didn't even stop traffic for long, most places there would have been a 12 hour delay on the interstate, guess it's due to the wide open spaces LOL Pam In El Paso, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: <WFlem72706@aol.com> To: <QUEBEC-RESEARCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 5:21 PM Subject: [Q-R] Interesting: Attention Monte > > Plane lands atop truck before crashing > Dec 10, 2004 (FABENS, Texas) — A small plane that had lost power briefly > landed atop an 18-wheeler before crashing onto the highway, authorities said. > The two people aboard the plane came out unscathed, and the truck driver never > heard a thing. > > "Nothing happened to the truck, except for a couple of skid marks up top," > said Trooper Lucila Torres, a spokeswoman for the Texas Department of Public > Safety. > The single-engine plane carrying an El Paso couple fell off the trailer and > landed upside down on Interstate 10 during the emergency landing Thursday > about 19 miles east of El Paso, Torres said. > Pilot Mark Taylor Davis, 45, and wife Mercedes Davis, 42, were returning home > from Austin when the 1967 Mooney M20F developed engine trouble, state > troopers said. The engine died before the plane could reach an airstrip in Fabens. > Truck driver Raymond Bennett White Jr., 44, of Dayton, Texas, told state > troopers he didn't hear anything when the plane landed atop his trailer, Torres > said. > > > ==== QUEBEC-RESEARCH Mailing List ==== > Easy on list uncle also..he's always on the lookout making sure that we all behave<g> and have fun!! He's just a kid, go see him at: > http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=46372445103.44099125703&n=1356657918 > Q-R kids, you will > meet him among the old, the not so old and the new KIDS <g> > You can submit your photos and see all the happy listers at: > the Q-R list New Photo Album at : > http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=46372445103.21099125703&n=81073745 > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilbert Provost" <gprovost@reach.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 1:21 PM Subject: [CCC] Fwd: Post 1901 Census "Salutations à tous. Le débat, en deuxième lecture, sur le projet de loi S-18 a été ajourné le 2 décembre au nom du Sénateur Noël Kinsella. En début de semaine, la possibilité existait que la deuxième lecture se conclurait et que le projet S-18 serait envoyé au Comité des Affaires sociales, des Sciences et de la Technologie. Même si la toile internet du Comité ne porte aucune réunion au calendrier, la possibilité d'une réunion le mercredi était plausible. Évidemment, cette réunion n'a pas eu lieu. Le Sénat a siégé mardi, mercredi et jeudi et a été ajourné au lundi, 13 décembre. Bien que le Sénateur Kinsella ait été présent durant ces trois jours de session et qu'il ait parlé sur plusieurs sujets, aucun débat n'a été tenu sur le pojet de loi S-18. À tous les jours, S-18 était listé en priority sur l'ordre du jour du Sénat. Il est évident que cet ordre du jour importe peux car plusieurs sujets de moindre importance ont été discutés à la place du projet S-18. J'anticipe que la dernière journée de session du Sénat avant l'ajournement pour Noël sera le jeudi, 16 décembre. Il y aura donc quatre jours, tout au plus, pour finir la deuxième lecture du projet S-18 et pour le référer au Comité afin de suivre l'échéancier de fin d'année pour le finaliser. Selon le calendrier parlementaire, le Parlement ne siègera pas avant lundi, le 31 janvier 2005. Entre le début de session du Parlement en janvier jusqu'à l'ajournement pour l'été, il y aura 68 jours de session, peut être 78 jours s'il y a prolongement. Il n'y aura donc pas tellement de temps pour finaliser le projet S-18 au Sénat avant de refaire tout le processus devant la Chambre des Communes. S'il y a le moindre espoir, avant la fin de la session pour l'été, de retrouver l'accès public aux données des recensements, nous devons continuer nos efforts pour informer nos parlementaires de l'importance que nous y portons. Par le passé, le gouvernement a déjà acheminé avec scélérité un projet de loi important pour eux au travers du processus entier. Il nous faut faire que le projet S-18 soit important pour le gouvernement afin qu'ils accélèrent le passage du projet de loi S-18. Bonne chasse." Gordon A. Watts <mailto:gordon_watts@telus.net>gordon_watts@telus.net Co-président Comité du recensement canadien Port Coquitlam, BC <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census>http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en français <http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Index_f>http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Index _f Distribution permise Gilbert Provost Membre pour le Québec Comité du recensement canadien

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 2:53 AM Subject: Post 1901 Census - New column now online Greetings all. My latest column on Post 1901 Census issues is now online and accessible at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazce/gazce109.htm Topics in this issue include reaction to Bill S-18; Latter Day Saints support Bill S-18; Canadian Historical Association supports S-18; John English on secrecy vs. openness; U.S. Surgeon General declares National Family History Day; and British WW I service records going online. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f Permission to forward without notice is granted

To all:- Lots of ZEROs listed -- in fact, too many! Please download from the following http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/index.htm Let's make the next tabulation a bit larger!! I know we all desire the 1911 census -- we cannot go to Ottawa and speak -- our signatures have to speak for us. NUMBERS convince politicians!! Muriel ========== SENATE OF CANADA PETITIONS SENATOR LORNA MILNE BRITISH COLUMBIA:- Marcy Pollard, Chilliwack & Surrey 32 ALBERTA ------------------------ 0 SASKATCHEWAN ------------- 0 MANITOBA:- Barbara Hanson, Roblin ----------- 32 ONTARIO:- Beverly Guy, Toronto ---------------4 Isabel Henniger, Peterborough------ 1 Total = 5 QUEBEC:- -------------------------0 NEW BRUNSWICK:- Raymonde Bernest, Balmoral ------20 Mary Dobbelstyne, Fredericton ----30 Total = 50 NOVA SCOTIA :- -----------------0 PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND:- ----0 NEWFOUNDLAND ---------------0 TOTAL CANADIAN PETITIONS = 119 NON-RESIDENT PETITIONS:- William Deckman, Lake Mills, WI --------- 2 Previous Canadian Petitions ============== 3797 Petitions as of December 10, 2004 ========== 119 NEW TOTAL ----------------------3916 Previous Non-Resident Petitions = 647 Total for December 10, 2004 = 2 NEW TOTAL-----------------------649 Tabulation by Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON

Yes, for a small fee Mount Royal cemetery will do a search of their records & tell you what they find. On their website - click on "genealogy" for more details. If you click on "Products" - you can type in the name you seek & it will tell you if the name appears in either Mount Royal or Hawthorndale cems. (the website doesn't say which - though) Mt Royal is a large cemetery - & if you find your family member is buried in G section or A section or whatever -- ask them WHICH G or A section. G1- G2 G3 etc.. as that will narrow the search (should you ever visit) to a couple hours or so. Unlike the Notre Dame des Neiges cem-- Mt Royal lists women under their married name .. so if you are looking for Jean Brown who married John Jones -- they will list her under Jean Jones. P ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Lepore" <llepore@comcast.net> To: <QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [QUEBEC] Mount Royal Cemetery > Burnie - > > I found this page > http://www.rootsweb.com/~qcmtl-w/MRcemresearch.html > > according to this, you can send a request by email - hope > that info is still current. > > Lisa > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BReynaert" <bgreynaert@amtelecom.net> > To: <QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 9:08 PM > Subject: [QUEBEC] Mount Royal Cemetery > > > > Hi Listers > > I would like to know where I might find death records from Mount > Royal Cemetery, or if they are listed on line. I discovered that Mount > Royal started cremation in 1901. My great grandfather Edward Henry > Rothwell died aboard ship in the port of Montreal and was cremated c > 1903-1907.The only confirmed information on him is that he died and > was cremated in Montreal. This is my first posting and I thank one and > all for any help or suggestions. Burnie > > > > ______________________________

----- Original Message ----- From: BReynaert To: QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 9:08 PM Subject: Mount Royal Cemetery Hi Listers I would like to know where I might find death records from Mount Royal Cemetery, or if they are listed on line. I discovered that Mount Royal started cremation in 1901. My great grandfather Edward Henry Rothwell died aboard ship in the port of Montreal and was cremated c 1903-1907.The only confirmed information on him is that he died and was cremated in Montreal. This is my first posting and I thank one and all for any help or suggestions. Burnie

Dear Sir:- I know about this same-sex problem personally and feel the word "marriage" should be eliminated. A nephew told me they want a legal commitment so both could have medical benefits and other items known to "man-and-woman" marriages -- basically, the right to care for the other financially through his/her place of work. Can you imagine the ?fun? of doing family research in years to come, but as the number of years is 92, we will not be around to encounter this problem. Census records will very definitely be changed -- one partner will have to be listed as the HEAD of the household. This is one bit of governmental mismanagement I sincerely hope "goes down the drain" -- and get on with more pressing and needed matters. Muriel M. Davidson Brampton, ON

Remember, as you read the following -- Bill S-18 is a government bill -- Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 1:52 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census Greetings All. Second Reading debate in the Senate on Bill S-18 was adjourned 2 December in the name of Senator Noél Kinsella. At the beginning of this week there were some indications that Second Reading might be finished and S-18 referred to Committee, with the Committee of Social Affairs, Science and Technology possibly meeting on it as early as Wednesday. This even though the Committee website shows that there are currently no Committee meetings scheduled. Obviously this has not happened. The Senate sat on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday of this week and has now been adjourned until Monday, 13 December. While Senator Kinsella was shown in attendence for each sitting day this week, and he did speak on other things, no further debate took place this week on Bill S-18. On the Senate Order Paper Bill S-18 has daily been shown high up in the order of items listed, however it would appear that this order has little meaning as many other items, lower in the list, seem to have taken precedence over S-18. I expect that the last sitting day of the Senate before adjournment for Christmas will be Thursday 16 December. This gives at most four sitting days for Bill S-18 to complete Second Reading debate and to be referred to Committee if this is to be accomplished in a timely manner (i.e. this year). According to the Parliamentary Calendar, Parliament will not resume sitting again until Monday, 31 January. From the time Parliament resumes sitting in January until it adjourns for the summer recess there will be 68 sitting days, possibly 78 days if an extension of sitting days is invoked. Not a lot of time for Bill S-18 to finish being processed in the Senate and then to go through the hoops once again in the House of Commons. If we have any hope at all, before Parliament recesses for the summer, of regaining the public access to Historic Census records we seek, we must continue to inform our parliamentarians how important this issue is to us. Government has been known to rush something through Parliament that is of importance to them. We must make this an issue that is important to them so that they will take steps to expedite passage of Bill S-18. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f Permission to forward without notice is granted

Burnie - I found this page http://www.rootsweb.com/~qcmtl-w/MRcemresearch.html according to this, you can send a request by email - hope that info is still current. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "BReynaert" <bgreynaert@amtelecom.net> To: <QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 9:08 PM Subject: [QUEBEC] Mount Royal Cemetery > Hi Listers > I would like to know where I might find death records from Mount Royal Cemetery, or if they are listed on line. I discovered that Mount Royal started cremation in 1901. My great grandfather Edward Henry Rothwell died aboard ship in the port of Montreal and was cremated c 1903-1907.The only confirmed information on him is that he died and was cremated in Montreal. This is my first posting and I thank one and all for any help or suggestions. Burnie >

Hi Listers I would like to know where I might find death records from Mount Royal Cemetery, or if they are listed on line. I discovered that Mount Royal started cremation in 1901. My great grandfather Edward Henry Rothwell died aboard ship in the port of Montreal and was cremated c 1903-1907.The only confirmed information on him is that he died and was cremated in Montreal. This is my first posting and I thank one and all for any help or suggestions. Burnie

See List, Now Everyone knows why this Bill, IS the Best! God Bless You B.B. It's always uplifting to hear of some nice people that are still just being that, Nice. Thanks Best Bill for making my day. Pam In Texas ----- Original Message ----- > From: <WFlem72706@aol.com> > To: <QUEBEC-RESEARCH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 3:34 PM > Subject: [Q-R] "Until the day break, and shadows flee away" > > > > Hi All > > > > The temp. never got above 38F/4C today and I never saw the sun, but it was > a > > thin layer of clouds by mid morning, so, that's good enough and bright > enough > > and managed to get 6 cemeteries in today. > > Had some firsts today. St. Peter & Paul Russian Orthodox Catholic > Cemetery, > > was the first stop and I believe its just over the line into Dewitt, > > N.Y.Never been in a Russian Orthodox cemetery before. Pretty well kept, > course most > > on the stones are inscribed in Spanish or something I couldn't read.(Maybe > > Russian?) Little bit of English on the stones and nothing very old in > here. I > > picked up seven flags in this one. > > You've heard of those meal deals? Well, this was a cemetery deal, five > > cemeteries for the price of one. > > Right across the street from the Russians, were 4 Jewish cemeteries. First > > time again being in a Jewish cemetery. They were "Chevra Shas", "Ahavath > > Achin", "Arbeiter Ring", and "Workmans Circle". And I have no idea what > those names > > mean. But, one thing that stuck out like a sore thumb, in the Jewish > > cemeteries, there was nothing wrong. No damage, no liter, no beer cans, I > didn't see > > as much as a chip on a stone, how is it, the Jewish can keep perfect > looking > > cemeteries and most all the other cemeteries I've been in look like mini > war > > zones. I did however pick up one flag in one of the Jewish cemeteries, > but > > it had been knocked down by a recent falling limb, that was very evident. > Now > > if anyone on the list is Jewish, please drop me a note off the list, as > I've > > got some questions concerning what I saw there today. Have no idea what > some > > of these customs represent. Many of the stones have black and white > photos > > attached to them of the deceased. > > A little further down the road was another Jewish cemetery, "Frumah > Packard > > & Adam Yeshuiar" I really didn't do much foot work here, as its a newer > > looking cemetery, again very clean and neat. I did stop at one grave along > the > > little road that winds through it, I could see a flag down in front of the > > grave, so just stopped and picked it up and pushed it back in, that was as > a car > > was driving by. I followed the little road through the cemetery to a spot > where > > the car had stopped that drove by while I was picking up the flag. A > middle > > aged man was by his car and waved me to stop, so I did. Pleasant guy, > first > > thing was, "Your not Jewish, are you?" "No" I said, how could you tell. > He > > laughed, he said, "That's not a Menorah on the front of your car." I have > a big > > red Christmas bow on the front of the car. Dead give away, again, > > appropriate for a cemetery. Then he said he saw me stop, pick up the flag > and put it > > back where it belonged and just wanted to say thanks. And then we both > had a > > good laugh, as he said, from a distance he wasn't sure if I was a Rabbi > or not, > > he caught the beard from a distance. So, finally got to talk to someone > in > > the cemetery, alive..........................hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmm Rabbi > > Bill...........nah ! > > # 6, I'm so glad the earlier cemeteries were smaller. Oakwood cemetery, I > > definitely think to many people have died in Syracuse, this place is to > big. I > > think this cemetery has its own zip/postal code. First stop to look around > > here, someone had placed a fully decorated Christmas tree on a babies > stone and > > it appeared as if someone had kicked it down. Well, Becky, your tree is > back > > up, Merry Christmas. > > 'Ya know, 'ya got to be a real turd to do something like that to a babies > > grave. > > > > Then I find an interesting historic stone, > > Eliza Clark > > Died Oct 31, 1879 (appropriate night to die, just > > like my Grandmother.) > > "First Matron of Onondaga Orphan Asylum" (hope she had been a nice > > matron...............) > > > > Then I find the area of the Civil War burials. One flag on the ground so I > > put that in a huge pot of dead flowers for an Unknown Soldier, buried > there. > > And for two listers, this should be of interest to you, in the very front > > row, first I find...... > > John Laflair > > PVT. CO. K (private company K ) > > 149th NY VOLS (New York volunteers) > > 1844-1902 > > ********************************** > > a few stones down from there............. > > Levi Casavand (which I'd bet was Casavant at one time) > > CORP. CO L ( Corporal Company L ) > > 2 NY H ART ( 2nd New York Heavy Artillery) > > 1839-1902 > > > > And yep, I got photos of both. > > > > Then the nice inscription of......... > > 'Until the day break and shadows flee away" > > A.M.Treadwell > > of Plattsburg, N.Y. > > died 1889 > > > > Now this is cool........................ > > > > Cornelius Cool > > died Jan 13, 1872 > > 68 years > > > > cool, eh ! :) > > > > Then I stumble across.................. > > John H. Walrath > > Born 1866 > > Died 1948 > > "Mayor of Syracuse 1921-1925" > > > > Then I find the odd name of the day.................. > > Peter Brummelkamp 1838 - 1902 > > Almost missed good old Pete, what caught my attention was a Christmas > wreath > > someone had put on his grave was knocked over, I got it back up and in > > place, Merry Christmas Pete. > > > > And last, was the historical find of the day............ > > Deborah Wemple ( no, I've never heard of her myself but............) > > Died 1785 (she had a very famous half brother) > > " Half sister of General Herkimer" (of the Revolutionary War.) > > > > Oakwood cemetery could make a rich man poor, if he was to pay for all the > > repairs for all the destruction in this cemetery, > > unbelievable................... > > > > I think the next clear day may be this > > Sunday................................. > > > > Best > > Bill > > > > > > ==== QUEBEC-RESEARCH Mailing List ==== > > For some Quebec Historical Novels, goto: > > http://home.maine.rr.com/artenayp/ > > Remember to remove the "TAGLINE" when you send a REPLY to the list, > another one will be added to your note. > > Souviens-toi d'enlever le "TAGLINE" en repondant a une question, un autre > sera ajoute a ta note. > > Visit Q-R web page at: Visite la page Web Quebec a: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > > Threaded Archives at: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/QUEBEC-RESEARCH > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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Seeking the parents and the marriage details for the following couple Hyacinthe AUBRY-dit-FRANCOEUR & Genevieve LEDUC I have one son for this couple Henri AUBRY-dit-FRANCOEUR m. 1857 St-Laurent, Ile-de-Montreal, Quebec (Source O.G.S.) Louise COUSINEAU d/o Amable COUSINEAU & Scholastique POIRIER I would also like a more exact marriage date for this couple.

Looking for marriage confirmation and the grooms parents Jules COLLIN b Mar 10 1839, Rimouski m. May 03 1874 Bic, Rimouski, Quebec Emma "Anna" LABRIE d/o Martial LABRIE & Victoire LAVOIE

Bonjour From my files. Any additions or corrections will be appreciated. a Bientot Jack Langlois Modified Register for Guillaume LANGLOIS First Generation 1. Guillaume LANGLOIS was born Unknown in Prob:St-Leonard, Alecon, Orne, France. He died before May 1634 in France. Guillaume had two sons Noel and Jean. Noel was a riverboat pilot on the St-Lawerance Jean was a ships Captain and showed up in Quebec several times. It is also believed "possible"(peut-etre) that he had 3 daughters Marie,Marguerite,and Francoise. Marie married Jean Juchereau Marguerite married Abraham Martin in 1613 Francoise married Pierre Desportes All the above except Jean were in Quebec in 1634. It is generally accepted that Marguerite and Francoise were sisters from liseaux,France. Rene Jette has Guillaume listed as deceased on Noels marriage Certificate of 25 July 1634. Parents - Unknown Birthdate-Unknown Death- BEF May 1634 Guillaume married Jeanne (Milot) MILLET unknown. Jeanne was born Unknown in France. Rene Jette has Jeanne listed as alive on 25 Jul 1634,which is the date of Noels wedding. Death- Aft May 1634 Parents- Unknown Birthdate-Unknown Guillaume and Jeanne had the following children: 2 M i. Noel LANGLOIS was born in 1606 in Saint-Leonard, Alecon, Orne, France. He died on 14 Jul 1684 in Beauport, QC. He was buried on 15 Jul 1684 in Beauport, QC. Sources: 1- Histoire des Canadiens-Francais par Benjamin Sulte,printed Montreal 1882. 2- " Marriages of Notre-Dame,Quebec 1621-1900, Vol.2,Pg.31",Pub.1978, by Benoit Pontbriand, Noel Langlois son of Guillaume and Jeanne Millet,maries 25 Jul 1634,a Francoise Grenier. 3- Jesuit Relations. Noel was recruited in France as a censituary of Robert Gifart.Noel arrrived in Quebec the 4th of June 1634 aboard the ship the Saint Jehan. Pierre de Nesle was the Captain. For the next two months they built the manor for Lord Giffard and on the day the manor was dedicated (25 July,1634) Noel married Francoise Grenier. He was given land at Beauport.After rearing ten children and the death of Francoise he remarried.The jesuit relations book shows him as a norman pilot and also says he gave a yellow scarf to the church as a christmas offering. Noel was sometimes listed as a riverboat pilot also a ships carpenter. 4- 1666 census of Quebec listed as age 60,Veuf habittant. 5- 1681 census of Quebec as taken from Histoire desCanadiens-Francais par Benjamin Sulte,tome 5,chapter 4. Noel Langlois age 78,Marie Crevet(widow of Robert Caron) his wife age 71. Note: St-Leonard des-parcs does not have a baptism record and they have a good reason they began as a parish in 1623.Possibly St-Leonard des-Bois as this is on the sarthe river near Alencon and Mortagne in Perche. On 29 June 1637 Robert Giffard had ceded to Noel 300 arpents of land in Beauport. Noel being a carpenter had completed his 3 year contract to the satisfaction of the seigneur Giffard. Noel married (1) Francoise GRENIER on 25 Jul 1634 in Quebec, New France. Francoise was born in France. She died on 1 Nov 1665 in Quebec City, Quebec, Canada. She was buried on 1 Nov 1665 in Quebec. Source DGFQ par Rene Jette Pg.645. Francoise Grenier parents and origin unknown. died and buried 1 Nov 1665 at Quebec. Noel married (2) Marie dit Le Crevel CREVET daughter of Pierre CREVET and Marie LEMERCIER on 7 Jul 1666 in Chateau-Richer, QC(ct-Aubert). Marie was born in 1617/1621 in Benouville, Bayeux, Normandie, France. She died on 22 Nov 1695 in La Baie-St-Paul, Charlevoix, Pq. She was buried on 23 Nov 1695 in La Baie-St-Paul, Charlevoix, Pq. source:Sulte,Benjamin She arrived in Quebec in 1636.Elle premiere mari Monsieur Robert Caron in Quebec.Marie 45 ans au rec 1666 a Beaupre.50 ans au rec.1667. 71 ans au rec 1681,a Beauport.Rem.1666. 3 M ii. Jean LANGLOIS was born in France. Source:Rene Jette; Jean Langlois ar. Alencon.ev.sees, Normandie(Orne);pilote;cite 19 -09-1649(J.J.) au 01-09-1658 son of ( Guillaume and Jeanne Millet)St-Leonard de Parcs Note:20 July 1653 The flyboat commanded by Master Jean Langlois leaves Quebec for the fishery and carries our first letters to France. Note:8 Oct 1651 The shallop of Master Jean Langlois arrives. Note: 18 Sept 1650 On the 18th,there arrives from Bonaventure the shallop of Jean Langlois which brought us some bacon,wines,etc. The above three notes were taken from the Journal Des PP.Jesuites END:

In a message dated 12/9/2004 11:56:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, gboivin@telusplanet.net writes: In genealogy the use of ABT (about) BEF (before) AFT (after) or c (circa) are always assumed dates... No accuracy intended... Just to place the individual within a timeline. EST (estimated) is when mathematics has been used to calculate a day such as from a tombstone ( 72 years 8 months 31 days). The "d. AFT Jul 25 1635" comes from the fact that she wasn't listed as dead when Noel got married on m. Jul 25 1634/35 while the marriage registry states that the father was dead. The reason for Guillaume's death date being "BEF May 1634" is because he was listed as being dead "3 mois passés" (3 months ago) when Noel married. So July > June > May > April = 3 months. So if he died in April it was BEF May. ____________________________________ The data about dates, especially the use of ABT, BEF, AFT and C is most valuable. In 17th century Québec, the official record of births, marriages and deaths was the parish register. It is not uncommon to find the date of baptism noted, but not the date of birth. Similarly, the date of burial, but not the date of death. Or, the notation will include an expression such as "hier", "avant hier" (yesterday, or the day before yesterday). Please be careful not to confuse the dates. It is the birth that takes place a day or two before the baptism, and the death a day or two before the burial, not the other way round! Also, please take note that the Old Style - New Style dating system for the first three months of the calendar year was never used in French Canada, either in Québec or in Acadie. France adopted the Gregorian calendar immediately upon its proclamation in October 1582, and all years from 1583 forward begin on January 1, not on April 1. But Great Britain and its colonies did not adopt the Gregorian calendar until 1752, so dates between January 1 and March 31 are notated thus: Feb 27 1697/98. [BTW, there would be no Jul 25 1634/35 on any calendar.] Fr Owen Taggart

The Source for "St-Leonard-des-Parcs, Alencon, Normandie" is Jette. In genealogy the use of ABT (about) BEF (before) AFT (after) or c (circa) are always assumed dates... No accuracy intended... Just to place the individual within a timeline. EST (estimated) is when mathematics has been used to calculate a day such as from a tombstone ( 72 years 8 months 31 days). The "d. AFT Jul 25 1635" comes from the fact that she wasn't listed as dead when Noel got married on m. Jul 25 1634/35 while the marriage registry states that the father was dead. The reason for Guillaume's death date being "BEF May 1634" is because he was listed as being dead "3 mois passés" (3 months ago) when Noel married. So July > June > May > April = 3 months. So if he died in April it was BEF May. As for... > Some records have Jeanne's death as 1607. ???? This may be but they are not sources.no proof exists. I never said that proof existed. I am stating a fact. That some records DO indicate that she died in 1607 but I have her listed as being alive when Noel got married. She may have died in 1607 and the Priest simply didn't mark her down as dead when Noel got married. I don't know. So both info's are listed in my database until I can get a time machine and be there at her deathbed. As for... > [d/o Jacques MILLET and Jeanne VINCENT] ??????? parents inconnu You are right. My original research indicated that Jacques was possibly her brother and not her father. I made a mistake typing that in my database. Thanks for noticing that. I've disconnected them now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack" <j12l@charter.net> To: <QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [QUEBEC] LANGLOIS - LAFAILLE and TREMBLAY - POUTRE > Bonjour > Please review the following information for its validity.It appears that > quesses were used. Once this type of information is reduced to writing; It > is all but impossible to erase. Verify your sources!! > a Bientot > Jacques Langlois > See ???? below > > > Descendants of: Guillaume LANGLOIS > > > > 1 Guillaume LANGLOIS > > b. 1566 St-Leonard-des-Parcs, Alencon, Normandie > ??????? no proof exists as St Leonard-des-Parcs was not established as > a parish until 1627 > > d. BEF May 1634 St-Leonard-des-Parcs, Alencon, Normandie > ??????? This is an assumed date > > m. Jeanne MILLET > > m. ABT 1590 St-Leonard-des-Parcs, Alencon, Normandie > ???? no proof exists. > > b. 1570 France d. AFT Jul 25 1635 > ???? no proof exists > > [d/o Jacques MILLET and Jeanne VINCENT] > ??????? parents inconnu > > Some records have Jeanne's death as 1607. > ???? This may be but they are not sources.no proof exists. > > > > Thanks for reading the above examples. > Jacques > > > 2 Noel LANGLOIS > > b. c1606 Alencon, Orne, Normandie, France > > d. Jul 14 1684 Beauport, Montmorency, Quebec > > m1. Francoise M. GARNIER-dit-GRENIER > > m. Jul 25 1634 Notre-Dame-de-Quebec, Quebec > > b. c1609 France > > d. Nov 01 1665 Hotel-Dieu-de-Quebec, Quebec > > m2. Marie CREVET-CRENEL > > m. Jul 27 1666 Chateau-Richer, Montmorency 1, Quebec > > b. c1603 Benouville, Bayeux, Normandie, France > > d. Nov 22 1695 Baie-St-Paul, Charlevoix, Quebec > > [d/o Pierre CRENEL and Marie MERCIER] > > > > Francoise & Noel were married by Reverend Father Charles > > Lallemant. Witnesses included Robert Giffard (dentist) > > and Noel Juchereau. > > > > Different documents list Marie's family name as CREVET or > > CRENEL. Some sources list Marie's birthplace as Caen, > > Benouville, Calvados, France. > > > > 3 Noel LANGLOIS-dit-TRAVERSY > > b. Dec 1651 Quebec > > d. Oct 1693 Beauport, Montmorency, Quebec > > m1. Aimee CARON > > m. 1672 Quebec > > b. 1655 Quebec > > d. Oct 1685 Quebec > > [d/o Robert CARON and Marie CREVET-CRENEL] > > Noel & Anne's Marriage Contract signed 5 years after > > marriage (Jan 06 1677). > > m2. Genevieve PARANT > > m. Dec 02 1686 Beauport, Montmorency, Quebec > > b. 1670 Quebec > > [d/o Pierre PARENT and Jeanne BADEAU] > > Noel was the 1st to use the TRAVERSY name. Most of his > > descendants use this name. > > On May 25 1677 he was at Port-Joli Concession (Riviere > > des Trois-Saumons). He sold this later to Charles > > AUBERT (November 19 1686). Noel can be found listed > > at Beauport during 1681 census. > > > > 4 Noel LANGLOIS-dit-TRAVERSY > > b. Jan 22 1692, Beauport, Montmorency > > d. 1759 > > m. Francoise NIQUET > > m. Jul 01 1721 St-Francois-du-Lac, Yamaska, Quebec > > b. BEF 1709 > > [d/o Alexis NIQUET and Francoise GIGUERE] > > > > 5 Joseph LANGLOIS-dit-TRAVERSY > > b. Feb 23 1728 St-Francois-du-Lac, Yamaska, Quebec > > m. Charlotte Vitale CARON > > m. Feb 21 1757 St-Francois-du-Lac, Yamaska, Quebec > > b. May 02 1737 St-Francois-du-Lac, Yamaska, Quebec > > [d/o Vital CARON and Charlotte Josephte M. JOLIET] > > > > 6 Charles LANGLOIS-dit-TRAVERSY > > b. 1771 > > d. 1831 > > m. Anne M. LANDRY > > m. Nov 10 1795 St-Francois-du-Lac, Yamaska, Quebec > > b. BEF 1783 > > [d/o Jacques LANDRY and Marie BIBEAU] > > > > 7 Narcisse LANGLOIS-dit-TRAVERSY > > b. Jun 05 1809 St-Francois-du-Lac, Yamaska, Quebec > > d. Apr 28 1883 Drummondville, Quebec > > m. Genevieve LAFORET > > m. Sep 11 1832 St-Francois-du-Lac, Yamaska, Quebec > > b. BEF 1820 > > [d/o Michel LAFORET and Francoise COTE] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ann Blakeney" <bobann@sympatico.ca> > > To: "Gary Boivin" <gboivin@telusplanet.net> > > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 4:16 PM > > Subject: RE: [QUEBEC] LANGLOIS - LAFAILLE and TREMBLAY - POUTRE > > > > > >> Hello Gary, > >> > >> In "The Langlois Family History Book: I have there is a Narcisse > >> Langlois, > >> son of Charles and Marie Anne Landry. He was Baptised 05-06-1809, St > >> Francois du Lac...died 28-04-1883 in Drummondville. Unfortunalely there > > is > >> no marriage listed here. > >> Another source shows a marriage 30 Jan 1844, L'Acadie (Co. St Jean) > >> I hope this is of some use to you. > >> Ann > >> > > ------- Snipped to save our database -------- > > > > > > > > ==== QUEBEC Mailing List ==== > > **Do not use signature lines after your message** > > **They confuse our keyword archives through repetition** > > *** Don't forget to thank someone (offlist) for their help *** > > > > > > > > ==== QUEBEC Mailing List ==== > ** Simple courtesy is most important ** > * Privately thank those that help you * > ** Any complaints... Write me at gboivin@telusplanet.net** >

Thanks to "Best Bill", I now have the parish - Saint Philippe de Chateauguay - where my great grandparents were married on 17 Sept. 1885. They were Benjamin Boudrias and Nathalie Boudrias. My grandmother was born about 1890, her name was Cedia Nathalie Boudrias. Would anyone have the records for this parish? I would love to verify her birth and also if possible, what happened to her sisters Marie-Anne, Anne-Marie-Zephirine, and Praxilde-Eudoxie. I have no further information on the sisters except for their names. My grandmother was the last child born in Canada, the family came to Fall River, Mass. about 1893. Thanks so much for any help with my "Mémère"! Paula

This message may be forwarded -- we WANT the 1911 census Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul, Jeff: SEN" <PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 2:25 PM Subject: [CCC] Notes to Minister Emerson Hello there everyone: Further to our ongoing campaign to pass bill S-18, I would like to ask each and every one of you to write to Minister Emerson to urge him to take whatever steps are necessary to have the bill get through the Senate as soon as possible. You may want to word it as a Christmas wish, or however you like. However he should be made aware of the significant interest that there is across Canada to have this bill passed as soon as possible. Minister Emerson's email addresses are: emerson.david@ic.gc.ca Or emersd@parl.gc.ca I would hope that as many letters as possible could get to Minister Emerson very quickly. Jeff Paul Policy Advisor Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne Ph: (613) 947-9744 Cell: (613) 715-2965

Bonjour Please review the following information for its validity.It appears that quesses were used. Once this type of information is reduced to writing; It is all but impossible to erase. Verify your sources!! a Bientot Jacques Langlois See ???? below > Descendants of: Guillaume LANGLOIS > > 1 Guillaume LANGLOIS > b. 1566 St-Leonard-des-Parcs, Alencon, Normandie ??????? no proof exists as St Leonard-des-Parcs was not established as a parish until 1627 > d. BEF May 1634 St-Leonard-des-Parcs, Alencon, Normandie ??????? This is an assumed date > m. Jeanne MILLET > m. ABT 1590 St-Leonard-des-Parcs, Alencon, Normandie ???? no proof exists. > b. 1570 France d. AFT Jul 25 1635 ???? no proof exists > [d/o Jacques MILLET and Jeanne VINCENT] ??????? parents inconnu > Some records have Jeanne's death as 1607. ???? This may be but they are not sources.no proof exists. > Thanks for reading the above examples. Jacques > 2 Noel LANGLOIS > b. c1606 Alencon, Orne, Normandie, France > d. Jul 14 1684 Beauport, Montmorency, Quebec > m1. Francoise M. GARNIER-dit-GRENIER > m. Jul 25 1634 Notre-Dame-de-Quebec, Quebec > b. c1609 France > d. Nov 01 1665 Hotel-Dieu-de-Quebec, Quebec > m2. Marie CREVET-CRENEL > m. Jul 27 1666 Chateau-Richer, Montmorency 1, Quebec > b. c1603 Benouville, Bayeux, Normandie, France > d. Nov 22 1695 Baie-St-Paul, Charlevoix, Quebec > [d/o Pierre CRENEL and Marie MERCIER] > > Francoise & Noel were married by Reverend Father Charles > Lallemant. Witnesses included Robert Giffard (dentist) > and Noel Juchereau. > > Different documents list Marie's family name as CREVET or > CRENEL. Some sources list Marie's birthplace as Caen, > Benouville, Calvados, France. > > 3 Noel LANGLOIS-dit-TRAVERSY > b. Dec 1651 Quebec > d. Oct 1693 Beauport, Montmorency, Quebec > m1. Aimee CARON > m. 1672 Quebec > b. 1655 Quebec > d. Oct 1685 Quebec > [d/o Robert CARON and Marie CREVET-CRENEL] > Noel & Anne's Marriage Contract signed 5 years after > marriage (Jan 06 1677). > m2. Genevieve PARANT > m. Dec 02 1686 Beauport, Montmorency, Quebec > b. 1670 Quebec > [d/o Pierre PARENT and Jeanne BADEAU] > Noel was the 1st to use the TRAVERSY name. Most of his > descendants use this name. > On May 25 1677 he was at Port-Joli Concession (Riviere > des Trois-Saumons). He sold this later to Charles > AUBERT (November 19 1686). Noel can be found listed > at Beauport during 1681 census. > > 4 Noel LANGLOIS-dit-TRAVERSY > b. Jan 22 1692, Beauport, Montmorency > d. 1759 > m. Francoise NIQUET > m. Jul 01 1721 St-Francois-du-Lac, Yamaska, Quebec > b. BEF 1709 > [d/o Alexis NIQUET and Francoise GIGUERE] > > 5 Joseph LANGLOIS-dit-TRAVERSY > b. Feb 23 1728 St-Francois-du-Lac, Yamaska, Quebec > m. Charlotte Vitale CARON > m. Feb 21 1757 St-Francois-du-Lac, Yamaska, Quebec > b. May 02 1737 St-Francois-du-Lac, Yamaska, Quebec > [d/o Vital CARON and Charlotte Josephte M. JOLIET] > > 6 Charles LANGLOIS-dit-TRAVERSY > b. 1771 > d. 1831 > m. Anne M. LANDRY > m. Nov 10 1795 St-Francois-du-Lac, Yamaska, Quebec > b. BEF 1783 > [d/o Jacques LANDRY and Marie BIBEAU] > > 7 Narcisse LANGLOIS-dit-TRAVERSY > b. Jun 05 1809 St-Francois-du-Lac, Yamaska, Quebec > d. Apr 28 1883 Drummondville, Quebec > m. Genevieve LAFORET > m. Sep 11 1832 St-Francois-du-Lac, Yamaska, Quebec > b. BEF 1820 > [d/o Michel LAFORET and Francoise COTE] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ann Blakeney" <bobann@sympatico.ca> > To: "Gary Boivin" <gboivin@telusplanet.net> > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 4:16 PM > Subject: RE: [QUEBEC] LANGLOIS - LAFAILLE and TREMBLAY - POUTRE > > >> Hello Gary, >> >> In "The Langlois Family History Book: I have there is a Narcisse >> Langlois, >> son of Charles and Marie Anne Landry. He was Baptised 05-06-1809, St >> Francois du Lac...died 28-04-1883 in Drummondville. Unfortunalely there > is >> no marriage listed here. >> Another source shows a marriage 30 Jan 1844, L'Acadie (Co. St Jean) >> I hope this is of some use to you. >> Ann >> > ------- Snipped to save our database -------- > > > > ==== QUEBEC Mailing List ==== > **Do not use signature lines after your message** > **They confuse our keyword archives through repetition** > *** Don't forget to thank someone (offlist) for their help *** > >