Hello everyone, I am seeking information on how to research in Roxton, Roxton Falls or Roxton Pond, Shefford County, Quebec. I have a birth record card from Vermont stating the person's father - DAVID HEMINGWAY - was born in ROXTON. This is the first hint of where he was born, so I am very anxious to find out if anyone knows anything about this area and how I could access data. Thank you all so very much! Mary H 8)

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:05 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census - S-18 debate adjourned to 12 April 2005 Greetings All. Third Reading debate of Bill S-18 continued in the Senate yesterday (Wednesday) with Senator Madeleine Plamondon speaking against the access we seek. As have others who oppose that access, she made references to 'promises' being broken and related this to a lack of trust the people have in politicians. The debate yesterday was more lengthy than those previously reported on. Some of this debate consisted of heckling on the part of some Senators that oppose access. I will not go into it here in any length but urge all to read the debate for themselves. For the first time some Senators, other than our champion Senator Milne, had supportive comments to make. As usual, the extracted Hansard debate has been placed on the Post 1901 Census Project website at the URL following my signature. Follow the link for "Progress of Bill S-18" For her speech opposing Bill S-18 Senator Plamondon will earn a Red X of Opposition on our Senators Scoreboard. Because they voted in favour of Senator Comeau's amendment that would have closed access to all Censuses from 1918 to 2005, a number of other Senators have earned their Red X of Opposition as well. They will appear as soon as I am able to make the changes to our website. Fortunately, the amendment of Senator Comeau was defeated so that what remains to be considered is the original Bill as presented by the government. We had hoped that Bill S-18 would have finished Third Reading and be referred to the House of Commons before the Senate recessed for the Easter break. We had hopes this would happen today (Thursday 24 March). Instead of that however, at the end of sitting yesterday, the Senate voted to adjourn until Tuesday 12 April 2005, at 2:00 PM. Even should all of those Senators who still wish to speak to Bill S-18 be able to do so, and it passed Third Reading and was referred to the House of Commons on 12 April, at that time there will be only 32 House sitting days left before Parliament recesses for the Summer. It is looking less and less like we will see Bill S-18 proceed in the House through First Reading, Second Reading, Committee and Report stages, Third Reading and Royal Assent before the Summer break. Happy (?) Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

To all:- Should you wish to see what YOUR Senator thinks about census release, please check it at the following site http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Senscore1.htm Very interesting!!! --- Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 5:30 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census - S-18 debate continues Greetings All. Third Reading debate of Bill S-18 continued in the Senate on Tuesday 22 March with Senator John Lynch-Staunton leading the charge against passage of the Bill. As he had done before for the Privacy Commissioner and the Chief Statistician, he now berated Justice Canada for having produced a legal opinion that differed from earlier opinions in that it found no intention that Census records were intended to remain confidential forever, and no evidence that any 'promise' had been made that would give such an impression. He stated that "Justice has a bad habit of tailoring opinions to suit its client." It does not appear to matter to the Honourable Senator that earlier opinions were based on a very narrow view of one specific clause in Instructions to Officers and Enumerators of Census (having the Force of Law), whereas the opinion of Ann Chaplin in August 2000 considered ALL pertinent clauses (also having the Force of Law) in those Instructions, as well as ALL legislation having a bearing on the access issue. The Honourable Senator was prolific in quoting clauses of various statutes, Instructions, and Census forms which, while they gave assurances of confidentiality in contemporary terms, nowhere was there anything that indicated that such confidentiality was intended to last FOREVER. The Honourable Senator Comeau added some further comments as well. During the course of the past seven years, whenever any Senator or MP has spoken against the access we seek, almost without exception they have voiced those objections as if genealogists and historians were seeking information from current Censuses, rather than from those of 92 or more years ago. While much of what they say may have some validity in terms of access to current Census records, to apply those terms to records almost a century old is, to say the least, misleading. The full text of yesterday's (Tuesday) debate has been added to the Post 1901 Census Project website at the URL following my signature. Follow the link "Progress of Bill S-18". Happy Hunting Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

Hi I have a lot of Antoine Beaudry in my line and pls let me know which one you are interested in. I have a few Charbonneau but none in my direct line. Antoine B ( 1708-1781)s/o Louis + Françoise Langlois m Hélène Pigeon ( 1707-1781) d/o François + Madeleine Etienne PAT 16/08/1730 this is in my direct line. Des.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:08 AM Subject: Post 1901 Census - 3rd reading debate of S-18 Greetings All. Third Reading debate of Bill S-18 resumed in the Senate on Monday 21 March 2005. Senator Lorna Milne spoke against the amendment proposed earlier by Senator Comeau. She urged members of the Senate to defeat the amendment and to pass the Bill. Senator Lynch-Staunton asked if Senator Milne would "allow a question or two". The Honourable Senator couched his comments in the form of questions. It appeared however, that his main purpose was to object to the commitment of Statistics Canada to participate with the Libarary and Archives of Canada at the time of Census, to educate and encourage Canadians to allow access to their Census records, 92 years in the future, to preserve Canada's history for future generations. The Honourable Senator stated his intention to speak to this "in due course" but subsequently moved adjournment of the debate, after which Senator Jack Austin (Leader of the Government in the Senate) asked when he intended to "make his contribution?". The response was "As soon as I can, honourable senators". We cannot help but wonder, if the good Senator had something further to "contribute" why did he not do so at that time, rather than necessitate further debate on another day. We hope that the Honourable Senator made his "contribution" today (Tuesday), however we will not know that until tomorrow morning when the online Hansard is accessible. We had hoped that Bill S-18 would have received Third Reading (without amendment) and be referred to the House of Commons by this time. We remain hopeful that this will happen before the Senate recesses for Easter this Thursday. The full text of Monday's debate in the Senate, in both official languages, has been added to the Post 1901 Census Project website at the URL following my signature. Follow the link for "Progress of Bill S-18". Happy Hunting Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

Many thanks to Mike Girou and Fran Wilcox, who wrote, respectively, that: Quebec Royal Ancient Free and Accepted Masons, see http://www.biblio.com/books/21920790.html AF&AM is standard in all Masonic orders. As I recall, the 'R' indicates whether they are York Rite or Scottish Rite, two different flavors of Masonry that accomodate differing religious views. and to remind me of old reliable Uncle Google: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=GRAND+LODGE+OF+QUEBEC+CANAD A.&btnG=Google+Search My father was a Mason (albeit not very active) - but I certainly didn't click on this. Again, my appreciation to all. Ginny Crawford Carmel Valley CA USA

Greetings, listers. Some of you may already know that I have a wonderful retirement job in a Carmel antique shop - it is SO MUCH FUN bopping around among all the interesting and beautiful objects and talking about them - I can't seem to get tired of it. And what should come in the other day but a giant locket-type decoration and ribbon combination, dated 1912, clearly intended to be worn on a gentleman's evening jacket lapel. The word QUEBEC of course caught my eye - but I need help understanding the rest of it. Any comments or suggestions will be very welcome! Here's the description: The "locket" is a big metal oval - clearly sterling silver and so stamped, with a gold wash. It is more than 2" tall, 1 and a half inches wide, and about 1/2 inch deep. There is a circle of cobalt blue enamel in the center of the top surface which has a silver cornucopia superimposed. This innner circle lifts out to reveal a cavity the size of the whole piece - for snuff? Compromising letters? Who knows! Around the outside of the inner circle are big letters: GRAND LODGE OF QUEBEC, CANADA. This locket-shaped object hangs from a wide cobalt blue ribbon that is crossed by three ornamented silver bars, with a 3 inch long straight pin at the top of the back - which I assume would anchor the piece on the lapel. The whole piece is a bit more than 5" tall if it were pinned in place. The reverse of the locket is crowded with handsome engraving executed by a skilled hand - quite clear except as noted. It says: PRESENTED TO HON. [?] BRO. JOS. [could be JAS.] HANNAH as a mark of esteem by the members of ST. ANDREWS LODGE No. 53, Q.R.A.F. & M. on the occasion of the 40th anniversary: l892-1912. What lodge is this, do you think? Masonic, maybe? If anyone knows (or has a good guess!), please let me know. I am at the eMail address - VCrawf@aol.com - or you can write me c/o the list if you think others will be interested. Thank you! Salut to all, Ginny Crawford in California - a descendant of Louis GUERTIN dit le Sabotier, a lot of FRASERs, a lot of CHINIQUYs, PERRAULTs, and so on.

Some may have been wondering where to find this information, picked up from another mail list. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee ============== You can find a transcription of the instructions to the enumerators for the 1881 census at http://www.irdh.umontreal.ca/1881/enum_engl.htm The site is the 1881 Canadian Census Project site. "The 1881 Canadian Census Project is a project based at the Département de Démographie/CIED, Université de Montréal to enhance a 100% sample of the 1881 Canadian census for academic historical, demographic and genealogical research. This sample contains over 4.3 million records, covering the entire enumerated Canadian population in 1881 and making it one of our most important resources for the study of social and economic organization during Canada's formative period."

Duncan Moody Cameron died 1 Jan. 1899 in his 66th. year in Ft. Covington, New York. I find this to be just below the Quebec border. Does anyone have information on Duncan's parents, wife, birth, etc? Merci, Judith

Please read -- information re World War One records - Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census - New column posted Greetings All. FYI. My latest column on the Post 1901 Census campaign has now been posted online at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazce/gazce113.htm Headline subjects include: Bill S-18 proceeding through Senate; Time is getting short; More records in danger of destruction. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

I am looking for a James Wingate McGregor who was living at: 407 Dorchester Street West, Montreal in 1916 and 5th Beaver Hall Sg, Montreal in 1917 and 394 Dorchester Street West, Montreal in 1918. Can anyone help me to find out more? Particularly, did he have children? Gregor N.Gregor Macgregor www.gregormacgregor.com +44 777 1717 086

To all who desire the 1911 and later census records:- Bill S-18, a government bill, is presently wending its way through the Senate of Canada toward the House of Commons. It is a Bill to amend the Statistics Act, and when passed, census records from 1911 to 2001 will be released, 92 years following enumeration. It must be noted that the 1911 records should have been released June 1, 2003 -- slightly overdue. The Quebec scoreboard for Members of Parliament is found at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Score4.htm#PQ I have written letters with both languages to all -- now it is the turn of the people of Quebec to check and see if his or her Member of Parliament has 1. Never Replied --------- BLUE ? 2. Undecided ------------- GREEN symbol. There are NO RED symbols -- and some GOLD - meaning YES. As Parliament is not in session this week, very possibly you will see the MP in your home riding. I will accept your verbal reply by email -- and hoping all will be GOLD ones! Information is at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census in both English and Francais, as are all governmental items. Looking forward to hearing from many -- please try as I hope (and predict) this will be the last census bill by the government. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm

Information ???: (birth / death / parents) (naissance / mort / parents) Henriette LEDUC & Jean Antoine ROBITAILLE Henriette LEDUC (Pierre LEDUC & Henriette GIRARD) m. 04-08-1867 Papineauville, Quebec Jean Antoine ROBITAILLE ( ????? & ?????)

IN one of the emails sent by Tom Dunn I printed out the registry of businesses in Hardwick, VT. Yesterday a gentleman stated he was researching Darling and since this I have gone through some papers. Sumner E. DARLING, Jr. Attorney at Law, Cowles Block Hardwick, VT On the same page is George H. McLEOD, treasurer Granite Trust Company. I am sure these are pieces that Karina has on the main Vermont Rootsweb page. Harriet

I have written to Waltham Archives in Waltham, MA and this volunteer, Mr. Read called me because one of his ancestors was a lady with the last name of CADY. I haven't connected his line to my husbands but thought it would be good to put it on the genealogy lists for those who would like to check out READ, CADY William Read, volunteer at Waltham Archives, 380 Trapelo Road Waltham, MA. 02134-6399 telephone of archives (617) 647-8104

hI ALL, While looking at information I picked up, probably at the American Canadian Genealogical Society I came across the name CHATENAY, Jean married to Marie-Anne Hebert with three children and he served in the Saint-Ours companyof CARIGNAN-SALIERES REGIMENT. Interestingly the dit name for Chatenay is LaGuigne, have any of you connected this to the name Chateoneuf or Shatney? It seems I should be reading some materials I pick up closer. Harriet

Apologies for being away and not forwarding sooner. - Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:41 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census - debate of S-18 continues Greetings All. Third Reading debate of Bill S-18 continued in the Senate yesterday (Wednesday, 9 March 2005), with Senator Gerald Comeau speaking, as usual, in opposition to the Bill. He expressed his disappointment that the sponsor of the bill (Senator Milne - although he did not mention her by name) had not yet spoken to the Bill in Third Reading. This even though, according to the Hansard transcripts for 8 March 2005 , debate was adjourned in his name immediately the motion to read the bill the third time was made by Senator Rompkey. As usual, the Honourable Senator Comeau fixated upon 'breaking of ... promises' that neither he, nor anyone else, have been able to prove ever existed. He berated the Privacy Commissioner and the Chief Statistician for their positions of support for Bill S-18. As he had done during the Committee stage, he proposed an amendment to the Bill that would allow unrestricted access to the 1911 and 1916 Censuses, but would prevent any public access at all to records of Census from 1918 to 2005. His motion this time was seconded by Senator Ethel M. Cochrane. Extracted Hansard transcripts for March 7, 8 and 9 March, relating to Bill S-18, have been added to the Post 1901 Census Project website at the URL following my signature. Follow the links for Bill S-18. These extracts are in both official languages. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census > en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm > > Permission to forward without notice is granted > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 12:40 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census - Third Reading of S-18 moved Greetings All. FYI On Tuesday 8 March 2005 Third Reading of Bill S-18 in the Senate was moved by Senator Bill Rompkey. Debate on the motion however was immediately adjourned without any discussion taking place. Hopefully we will see the debate continued today (Wednesday). Happy Hunting. Gordon

I just found out my gg grandfather was married in 1844 in St. Roch, Quebec Can anyone tell me where that is...I found 3 different versions of St. Roch, one that is part of Quebec City, one that is by Val D'Or, one that is called St-Roch-des-Aulnaies, and another called St-Roch de Richelieu He was a military guy...so likely it would be a place where the military were located. It sounds like a place where there were a large number of Irish immigrants, as he married a Catherine O'shea from Ireland.. Mark John Hammond married 6.2.1844 St-Roch to Catherine O'Shea Mark John parents : Thomas Hammond & Elisabeth Jemph Catherine parents : Charles (John) O'Shea and Catherine Delamp If anyone has this family in their tree, I would love to hear from you. Donna ***************************************************** Donna L. Alden-Bugden, NP, RN, BScN, MN(ANP) Nurse Practitioner, Winnipeg, Manitoba E-Mail Address: Donna@Alden-Bugden.ca Websites and Communities: The Canadian Nurse Practitioner NP Online Community ANP-Canada (Advanced Practice Nursing - Canada) Advanced Practice Nurses Webring *****************************************************

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Post 1901 Census - Bill S-18 reported back to Senate Greetings All. FYI. On Monday 7 March 2004 Bill S-18 - An Act to amend the Statistics Act, was reported back to the Senate by the Senate Standing Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology. It was reported without amendment. "On motion of Senator Keon, [the] bill [was] placed on the Orders of the Day for third reading at the next sitting of the Senate." While the motion reads that the debate on third reading will proceed "at the next sitting of the Senate", which would be today, such is not necessarily the case. This is standard wording when the Speaker asks when bills will be read next and does not necessarily mean that it will, in fact, be debated the next time the Senate sits. Hansard transcripts are not available online until the day after the event so it will be tommorrow (Wednesday) before I can find out if Third Reading of S-18 actually begins today. Senator Keon has not given us a definitive response to the question of his support, or otherwise, of the access we seek. Presumably his position will become clear when he speaks to the Bill. We hope that during Third Reading we will hear from some of those Senators supportive of access rather than only those who, up to date, have opposed it (with the notable exception of Senator Lorna Milne). According to the Parliamentary Calendar, Parliament sits this week and does not sit next week. It sits again from 21 to 24 March and recesses once more until 4 April. It sits until 20 May when it breaks again for a week. It sits again from 30 May to 9 June which is the normal last day before the Summer recess. There may be a possible extension of up to ten days, to 23 June, before the Summer recess. In any case, at this moment there are 46 sitting days left, with a possible extension of up to 10 days, for an absolute maximum of 56 sitting days before Parliament recesses for the Summer. All of this is, of course, subject to change at the whim of the government and we should not count on any more than the 46 days. Not much time to see Bill S-18 to be completed before Summer. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC htp://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted