Thanks Bertrand, I knew you'd have an explanation. I've been looking for the document in the Drouin but can't find anything there for Basset - or that date - 10 Oct 1690. Fran Sarnia, ON, Canada http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fjl1935/ THE FUTURE IS AS GREAT AS THE PROMISES OF GOD! Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Desjardins Bertrand wrote: >> Yes, PRDH does have it on the couple & Individual page. #898. & >> Acte * 72839 - no link to the death though. Possibly because the >> document has not survived, or perhaps Bertrand will explain why not. >> Comments : TUÉ D'UN COUP D'ÉPÉE PAR LE SIEUR DUMONT DE BLAIGNAC, >> LIEUTENANT DANS LES TROUPES DE LA MARINE. SOURCE: ACTE DU NOTAIRE >> BASSET EN DATE DU 10 OCTOBRE 1690 >> > > Bonjour, > > The explanation is that his burial, if it was recorded, did not reach us; hence no record in the repertory of B, M, S. But a notarial act, cited above, indicates he was killed on the tenth of October 1690. So we can give the date in his individual file. > > >> Francis T. Watters wrote: >> >>> P.S. Are you aware that the Drouin Collection may not show all the >>> BMD? That happens when the copy is taken off the one that was in the >>> Greffe where the priest may have missed some entries. I've seen that >>> several times. Some time whole pages are missing. Don't know why >>> Ancestry.com didn't use their LDS own microfilms at least up to >>> 1876. The Quebec Archives often do go beyond those years.. LDS took >>> off their copies from the parishes. >>> > > Contrary to what many people seem to think, The Generations Network, which is the parent company to the Ancestry sites, has no link with the LDS church; hence you can't refer to "their LDS own microfilms". Furthermore, the agreement between the Catholic church and the LDS leading to the microfilming of the Church copy in the 1970s did not give the LDS the right to replicate and eventually sell copies to outside organizations. Finally, there are cases where the church copy is missing records which are in the Greffe copy. The Drouin collection often has for the older records both copies. The thing to do of course would be to match the two series record after record; there are over 10 million, so... have fun! > > Bertrand Desjardins > > >

bonjour! "Killed by the cut of the sword of Sieur Dumont de Blaignac, Lieutenant in the troups of the Marine." Please see this link that Frances has and look under the section The Ulitimate Tragedy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fjl1935/biotoussaint.html I caught myself in the middle of unknowing.... maybe others as well?? Libby

>Yes, PRDH does have it on the couple & Individual page. #898. & > Acte * 72839 - no link to the death though. Possibly because the > document has not survived, or perhaps Bertrand will explain why not. > Comments : TUÉ D'UN COUP D'ÉPÉE PAR LE SIEUR DUMONT DE BLAIGNAC, > LIEUTENANT DANS LES TROUPES DE LA MARINE. SOURCE: ACTE DU NOTAIRE > BASSET EN DATE DU 10 OCTOBRE 1690 Bonjour, The explanation is that his burial, if it was recorded, did not reach us; hence no record in the repertory of B, M, S. But a notarial act, cited above, indicates he was killed on the tenth of October 1690. So we can give the date in his individual file. > > Francis T. Watters wrote: >> P.S. Are you aware that the Drouin Collection may not show all the >> BMD? That happens when the copy is taken off the one that was in the >> Greffe where the priest may have missed some entries. I've seen that >> several times. Some time whole pages are missing. Don't know why >> Ancestry.com didn't use their LDS own microfilms at least up to >> 1876. The Quebec Archives often do go beyond those years.. LDS took >> off their copies from the parishes. Contrary to what many people seem to think, The Generations Network, which is the parent company to the Ancestry sites, has no link with the LDS church; hence you can't refer to "their LDS own microfilms". Furthermore, the agreement between the Catholic church and the LDS leading to the microfilming of the Church copy in the 1970s did not give the LDS the right to replicate and eventually sell copies to outside organizations. Finally, there are cases where the church copy is missing records which are in the Greffe copy. The Drouin collection often has for the older records both copies. The thing to do of course would be to match the two series record after record; there are over 10 million, so... have fun! Bertrand Desjardins

Good Morning Listers, I came across some marriage records in the PRDH and the place the information was recorded is listed as: "Registre des Hurons de Loretteville". can these records be accessed on-line and if so would anyone have the website address? If not, could anyone give me any direction on exactly what these records are, where they may be located and how I might research these records? Thank you for any help. Lone Star Pam

> Hi Francis; > > Yes, PRDH does have it on the couple & Individual page. #898. & > Acte * 72839 - no link to the death though. Possibly because the > document has not survived, or perhaps Bertrand will explain why not. > The date is also mentioned in "Nos Ancestres" & possibly "Les Recrues." > > PRDH: > Individu # 72839 > TOUSSAINT HUNAULT DESCHAMPS Status(es) : Immigrant > Father : NICOLAS HUNAULT > Mother : MARIE BENOIT > Family > Birth : around 1625 st-pierre-es-champs, ev. beauvais, > picardie (ar. beauvais, oise) > Death : 1690-09-13 Montréal > > First marriage : 1654-11-23 Montréal > with > MARIE LORGUEIL > Father : PIERRE LORGUEIL > Mother : MARIE BRUYERE > Family > > Comments : TUÉ D'UN COUP D'ÉPÉE PAR LE SIEUR DUMONT DE BLAIGNAC, > LIEUTENANT DANS LES TROUPES DE LA MARINE. SOURCE: ACTE DU NOTAIRE > BASSET EN DATE DU 10 OCTOBRE 1690 > > hope this helps, > > Fran Sarnia, ON, Canada > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fjl1935/ > > THE FUTURE IS AS GREAT AS THE PROMISES OF GOD! > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com) > > > > Francis T. Watters wrote: >> Hi Fran; >> >> Where did you get the date of Tousaint's death? He is not in the >> PRDH at that date either even though I also checked in all of >> September 1691 under "parishes", and there was no Toussaint buried in >> that month. As a matter of fact, I couldn't find Toussaint's death >> at all in any parish. >> >> Frank >> P.S. Are you aware that the Drouin Collection may not show all the >> BMD? That happens when the copy is taken off the one that was in the >> Greffe where the priest may have missed some entries. I've seen that >> several times. Some time whole pages are missing. Don't know why >> Ancestry.com didn't use their LDS own microfilms at least up to >> 1876. The Quebec Archives often do go beyond those years.. LDS took >> off their copies from the parishes. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frances LaChance" >> <[email protected]> >> To: "QUEBEC-RESEARCH-L" <[email protected]>; >> "Quebec-List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 2:58 PM >> Subject: [QUEBEC] Drouin 1690 - Notre-Dame - Burials >> >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Need more help with Drouin. Searching for the burial of Toussaint >>> Hunault, d/s 13 Sep 1690. I've looked in the Notre-Dame index & "Copie >>> Textulle' but can't find him. I know the graveyard was moved to the >>> St-Antoine area - then later, somewhere else, but the records should >>> still be at Notre-Dame. >>> >>> If you have suggestions on where I should look next I'd appreciate it >>> and if anyone comes across anything pertaining to him in their >>> research, >>> please let me know. >>> >>> -- >>> Fran >>> Sarnia, ON, Canada >>> >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fjl1935/ >>> >>> THE FUTURE IS AS GREAT AS THE PROMISES OF GOD! >>> >>> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system >>> (http://www.grisoft.com) >>> >>> . >

Good afternoon I'm looking for the parents & marriage for JEAN BENOIT & ROSINA GROULX. Their son Leopold married 12 Feb 1923 at Ste-Anne Ottawa, Robina Dubien d/o Alphonse Dubien/Debien/Desbien & Bridget-Annie Mahoney. Thank you for your help. Renée

Hi All, Need more help with Drouin. Searching for the burial of Toussaint Hunault, d/s 13 Sep 1690. I've looked in the Notre-Dame index & "Copie Textulle' but can't find him. I know the graveyard was moved to the St-Antoine area - then later, somewhere else, but the records should still be at Notre-Dame. If you have suggestions on where I should look next I'd appreciate it and if anyone comes across anything pertaining to him in their research, please let me know. -- Fran Sarnia, ON, Canada http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fjl1935/ THE FUTURE IS AS GREAT AS THE PROMISES OF GOD! Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com)

No marrriage for Mar 26 Have a nice day Renée

Tammy L. Vallee, of Saskatoon posted the following Letter to the Editor in the March 24, 2007 issue of the Star Phoenix - please take heed, as only 55% said YES for release of family data in 2098. For those who do not say YES, there could be only obituaries to assist research. Also some state they never received 2006 census forms. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Genealogists and family historians view the 2006 census results with saddened hearts. Only 55 percent of the 31.6 million people counted answered "YES" to releasing their census information in 92 years. Some may not be aware of the seriousness of this question and its impact on future generations. The privacy of personal information is paramount in today's society. >From the perspective of family history, however, the privacy laws risks sealing recordsthat are key sources in tracing a family tree. http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/letters/story.html?id=64850d26-4e2f [Copy of what is being typed as timing of letters is often brief] Most of us will have passed on in 92 years. [only Obituaries?] By then, four generations could have come along and produced the next family historian seeking information. Where will that genealogist go for information on grandparents or great-grandparents? Genealogists tuen to such records as the census in hopes of finding information. Their glimmer of hope will soon fade to disappointment and heartache if their ancestors have refused to release personal census information. Those who answer "NO" must have a reason, but is it one that your great-grandchild might accept in 92 years? Those who didn't bother to answer YES or NO to the census question are letting someone else decide for them. For a genealogist, the issue is not what answers were given on the census, but that in 92 years there's proof that you existed. The data provides a better understanding of who you were and where you lived. There is still a chance to change your answer to a "YES". http://www.12.statscan.ca:80/english/census06/reference/info/request.cfm Tammy L. Vallee, Saskatoon - - - - - - - Muriel M. Davidson [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee, Brampton, ON --------------------------------------------------- >From Gordon A. Watts:- The question in English can be found on the Statistics Canada website at http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census06/reference/info/personal.cfm To view it in French, click on the Francais link in the top left corner of the link bar at the top of the page. Gordon A. Watts [email protected] Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC

Hi All This is a despirate cry for help. I have been trying to find the birth records of two people for a couple of decades now. The first is JEAN BAPTIST DANDURAND born approx 1825, he lists his place of birth as Lacolle Quebec, he was married to Esther Patenaude, I have her parents but can not find their marriage. the couple lived in the Malone area and then keesville,(cant' find records there either) and then moved to Swanton Vt where he is buried. The second person is Victoria Lefor/Lefort/leford she was born about 1858 and she married Oscar Reynolds in Franklin Vt in in 1878 in a civil marriage. She lists her parents as John and mary leford. I found a notory record of Jean Laford in Standbridge east. the only Jean Lefort/Laforest I can find is married to Josephte Bessette. thank you Carollee --------------------------------- The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.

Marriages for Mar. 25 (Source PRDH) Union Before 1719-03-25 Lieu indéterminé au Québec GUYON DION CLAUDE & GAGNON FRANCOISE s/o Union 1688-10-25 Ste-Famille I.O. GUYON-DION JEAN & PEPIN-LACHANCE MARIE d/o Union 1686-10-28 Château-Richer GAGNON MATHURIN & COCHON CHARLOTTE ------------ Union 1729-03-25 Contrecoeur DUPRE FRANCOIS & ALLAIRE-DALLAIRE MARIE s/o Union Before 1703-12-31 Lieu inconnu DUPRE FRANCOIS & MASSON CATHERINE d/o Union 1705-11-25 St-François I.O. ALLAIRE-DALLAIRE ETIENNE & BILODEAU MARIE-ANNE --------------- Union 1747-03-25 Lieu inconnu GAGNON IGNACE & PETIT MARIE BARBE s/o Union 1710-11-13 Québec GAGNON JOSEPH & LUNEAU MARIE ANNE d/o Union 1727-02-24 Neuville PETIT NICOLAS & SYLVESTRE-CHAMPAGNE MARIE-JEANNE ------------------

I posted this Feb 9 Union 1770-02-09 St-François-de-la-Rivière-du-Sud GUYON-DION JEAN-BAPTISTE ** & PARE MARIE-MADELEINE s/o Union 1730-04-18 Ste-Famille I.O. GUYON-DION JOSEPH & BAUCHER-MORENCY-BOUCHER MARIE-BRIGITTE-THECLE d/o Union 1698-11-05 Cap-St-Ignace BAUCHER-MORENCY JOSEPH & LEMIEUX MARTHE ************** ---------------- Joseph & Marte Lemieux were the martenal grandparents of Jean-Baptiste Guyon-Dion ** the correct answer is PRDH Marriage of JEAN BAPTISTE GUYON DION Father : JOSEPH GUYON DION Mother : MARIE BRIGITE THECLE BAUCHER MORENCY BOUCHER and MARIE MADELEINE PARE Father : LOUIS PARE Mother : MARIE LOUISE FOURNIER********** Previous marriage with MARIE GENEVIEVE MORISSET Marriage: 1770-02-09 St-François-de-la-Rivière-du-Sud ---------------- Union 1742-10-01 Montmagny PARE LOUIS & FOURNIER MARIE-LOUISE PRDH ********** Thank you Jean and sorry for the error Renée

Marriages for March 24, (source PRDH) Union Before 1616-03-24 Lieu inconnu GERVAIS URBAIN & PEBISE JEANNE --------------- Union 1671-03-24 Lieu indéterminé (au Québec) BAUDOUIN JACQUES & DURAND FRANCOISE s/o Union 1641-07-08 France BAUDOUIN SOLON & GOTREAU ANNE d/o Union Before 1651-12-31 Lieu inconnu DURAND PIERRE & ASSELIN NOELLE ---------------- Union 1708-03-24 Lieu indéterminé (au Québec) BRABANT-LAMOTHE MICHEL & LAFAYE MARIE-ELISABETH s/o Union 1671-10-27 Lieu indéterminé (au Québec) BRABANT-LAMOTHE PIERRE & GOUPIL MARIE-ANNE d/o Union 1690-01-19 Lieu indéterminé (au Québec) LAFAYE-DELAFAYE RENE-ANTOINE & OZOU MARIE-MADELEINE ------------- Union 1779-03-24 Montréal (Protestants) JONES EPHREM & COURSOLLE-LAFLOTTE MARIE-CHARLOTTE PRDH s/o ?? d/o Union 1739-05-25 Verchères COURSOLLE-LAFLOTTE MICHEL & GUYON-LEMOINE-DION-BUISSON MARIE-JOSEPHE ------------------------

Many thanks for those who emailed me the web site for http://simmons.b2b2c.ca/ It is the one I was looking for. As I am in Toronto and have access to Ontario Genealogical records please let me know if I can return the favour. Bob

A short time ago a web site was posted which allowed access to a data base of a lady in Quebec who has info on BMD's in Quebec going back to the 1700's. Unfortunately I have lost the link and would appreciate someone passing it on to me. I found a potential link to church records in 1793-7 in Three Rivers and would like to contact her to have her provide me with the records. I am aware that she charges for this but since this is a potential important link to my ggg grandparents the small charge is not important. Bob

No marriages for March 23rd Have a nice day Renée

Thank you for the clarification Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Desjardins Bertrand" <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [Q-R] Drouin Index It is the responsibility of The Generations Network (mother company to the Ancestry sites) which hires firms that specialize in data transcription. It is precisely because the keying will be done by people who do not know French-Canadian names that TGN struck an agreement with the PRDH who will assume quality control and data corrections. Bertrand Desjardins PRDH

Hi Pam (are you related to Roy...Orbison?) Saint-Pierre-du-Portage was the former name of the parish of L'Assomption. It was founded in 1724. http://www.uquebec.ca/musique/orgues/quebec/lassomption.html#English Cheers, Mona Pam Harbison wrote: > Hello List Members, > Could someone point me in the correct direction on the "Drouin" collection, > to Portage, L'Assomption? I find L'Assomption but not Portage. I am not from > Canada and am not familiar with how to search the different parishes ect. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. Would it even be on this collection? > Please email me off-list with any replies. Thank you again for all your > help. Lone Star Pam > >

Hi Sheila I had 3 marriages for Marie Valade so I opened the family page. The parents had 2 Marie and they both married twice. Marie mar. to Jean Cadieux was a fille du Roy. In the book by Peter Gagne it says that her mother Sarah Cousseau renounced Calvinism 27 Sep. 1685 at Saint-Nicolas. It doesn't say when she died but you have 1691. Now you have the two events she "renounced" in 1685 and died in 1691. There's no mention of the mother's first marriage to Samuel Bertrand. Hope that clears this up for you Good luck Remee PRDH Couple [Family] of ANDRE VALADE and SARAH COUSSEAU Father : PIERRE COUSSEAU Mother : ANNE BOURRADIER Couple Marriage: 1630-02-03 France Children married before 1800 : Sex Date of marriage First name of the child Place of marriage Name of the spouse f 1658-08-19 MARIE QUEBEC [Couple] MICHEL LHOMME m 1669-11-10 GUILLAUME QUEBEC [Couple] MARIE FRANCOISE ASSELIN f 1663-11-26 MARIE MONTREAL [Couple] JEAN BAPTISTE CADIEUX ================================ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Sheila Lafleur Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [QUEBEC] Marie-Barbe Valade / Sara COUSSEAU Hi list...... any suggestions? I am trying to confirm the below information and can't seem to find the right google search about people condemned of heresies Marie-Barbe Valade : Father: Andre Valade. a carrier or messenger of St. Nicholas de La Rochelle, Mother: Sara Cousseau, widow of Samuel Bertrand: she died from "heresie" at St Nicolas on Sept. 27, 1685, and was buried at the same place at the age of 95 July 25 1691. ( that statement doesn't make sense to me perhaps something was lost in english translation) She had nine children. Married at the Temple on Oct 26 1625 to Samuel Bertrand, "saulnier" the contract was passed by Couseeau (not.), on Sept. 2nd, in the presence of David Pepin, one of the peers of LaRochelle and Great uncle of the intended wife. In 1630 she remarried Andre Valade, Marie Barbe's father... future bride of Michel L'Hommes and Jacques LeMeilleur." Thanks Sheila Lafleur

Hello List Members, Could someone point me in the correct direction on the "Drouin" collection, to Portage, L'Assomption? I find L'Assomption but not Portage. I am not from Canada and am not familiar with how to search the different parishes ect. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Would it even be on this collection? Please email me off-list with any replies. Thank you again for all your help. Lone Star Pam