Hello, I am wondering if someone could look up in Hinshaw the Bush River Monthly Meeting minutes for a specific date: December 28, 1781 or December 28, 1782 (Hinshaw reportedly claimed that it was December 29, 1782, but a researcher who is helping me things that this date may be a mistake, and that it was really in 1781. I'm looking for information on John Townsend and his brothers, William and James, in regard to enlisting in the military during the Revolutionary War. The meetings for those days will contain the three disownments of James, William and John. I am also looking for information on John Townsend's request for restoration of membership in 1789, which will have a description of why John Townsend joined the military, and why this was non-Quaker to do. To get his membership restored, he had to state exactly what it was that he had done in a non-Quaker manner. "Going to war" is definitely non-Quaker. If that's what he said that he did, the Revolution was the only war available in that time-frame.While this John Townsend is a DAR patriot, when I tried to join the DAR based on John's service, the DAR decided that the previous information that they had accepted from as many as 40 plus individuals was not proof of his military service. The original Bush River Monthly Meeting minutes are archived at the Hege Library at Guilford College in Greensboro, North Carolina. The SLC Family History LIbrary does not have them on film, so I can't check to see if 1782 date cited by Hinshaw is accurate or not. Thank you so much, in advance!

In my experience, Hinshaw does not usually provide details of disownments except for situations involving marriage out of unity, etc. Page 1038 of Vol. I includes the following entries under the surname Townsend: 1781, 1, 27. James & William, s John , of Padget's Creek, dis. 1782, 12, 28. John, Jr., of Padget's Creek, dis. 1789, 1, 31. John, Jr. rst by rq. 1789, 2, 11. Margaret, dt John, m Samuel Hunt. The timing of the last entry made me wonder if it would be related to John's request for restoration -- to attend his sister's (?) wedding. It looks like you'll need to go to the actual records to learn more. (I have done that with records at Swarthmore and it worked extremely well.) I don't know if Guilford llibrarians will be able/willing to find the answers for you, but you might try emailing them at hegeref@guildford.edu. On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Kimberly Spangrude <kimspangrude@mac.com>wrote: > Hello, > > I am wondering if someone could look up in Hinshaw the Bush River Monthly > Meeting minutes for a specific date: December 28, 1781 or December 28, > 1782 (Hinshaw reportedly claimed that it was December 29, 1782, but a > researcher who is helping me things that this date may be a mistake, and > that it was really in 1781. > > I'm looking for information on John Townsend and his brothers, William and > James, in regard to enlisting in the military during the Revolutionary War. > The meetings for those days will contain the three disownments of James, > William and John. I am also looking for information on John Townsend's > request for restoration of membership in 1789, which will have a > description of why John Townsend joined the military, and why this was > non-Quaker to do. To get his membership restored, he had to state exactly > what it was that he had done in a non-Quaker manner. "Going to war" is > definitely non-Quaker. If that's what he said that he did, the Revolution > was the only war available in that time-frame.While this John Townsend is a > DAR patriot, when I tried to join the DAR based on John's service, the DAR > decided that the previous information that they had accepted from as many > as 40 plus individuals was not proof of his military service. > > The original Bush River Monthly Meeting minutes are archived at the Hege > Library at Guilford College in Greensboro, North Carolina. The SLC Family > History LIbrary does not have them on film, so I can't check to see if 1782 > date cited by Hinshaw is accurate or not. > > Thank you so much, in advance! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUAKER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Rick Davis

The tapes for bush river are available through the LDS family history centers. I am not at home, but here is the possible URL. If this does't work, search the library catalog for Bush River https://familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=434157&disp=Bush+River+Monthly+Meeting+of+Friends%20%20&columns=*,0,0 Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Rick Davis <rdphase4@gmail.com> wrote: > In my experience, Hinshaw does not usually provide details of disownments > except for situations involving marriage out of unity, etc. Page 1038 of > Vol. I includes the following entries under the surname Townsend: > > 1781, 1, 27. James & William, s John , of Padget's Creek, dis. > 1782, 12, 28. John, Jr., of Padget's Creek, dis. > 1789, 1, 31. John, Jr. rst by rq. > 1789, 2, 11. Margaret, dt John, m Samuel Hunt. > > > The timing of the last entry made me wonder if it would be related to > John's request for restoration -- to attend his sister's (?) wedding. > > It looks like you'll need to go to the actual records to learn more. (I > have done that with records at Swarthmore and it worked extremely well.) I > don't know if Guilford llibrarians will be able/willing to find the answers > for you, but you might try emailing them at hegeref@guildford.edu. > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Kimberly Spangrude > <kimspangrude@mac.com>wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I am wondering if someone could look up in Hinshaw the Bush River Monthly >> Meeting minutes for a specific date: December 28, 1781 or December 28, >> 1782 (Hinshaw reportedly claimed that it was December 29, 1782, but a >> researcher who is helping me things that this date may be a mistake, and >> that it was really in 1781. >> >> I'm looking for information on John Townsend and his brothers, William and >> James, in regard to enlisting in the military during the Revolutionary War. >> The meetings for those days will contain the three disownments of James, >> William and John. I am also looking for information on John Townsend's >> request for restoration of membership in 1789, which will have a >> description of why John Townsend joined the military, and why this was >> non-Quaker to do. To get his membership restored, he had to state exactly >> what it was that he had done in a non-Quaker manner. "Going to war" is >> definitely non-Quaker. If that's what he said that he did, the Revolution >> was the only war available in that time-frame.While this John Townsend is a >> DAR patriot, when I tried to join the DAR based on John's service, the DAR >> decided that the previous information that they had accepted from as many >> as 40 plus individuals was not proof of his military service. >> >> The original Bush River Monthly Meeting minutes are archived at the Hege >> Library at Guilford College in Greensboro, North Carolina. The SLC Family >> History LIbrary does not have them on film, so I can't check to see if 1782 >> date cited by Hinshaw is accurate or not. >> >> Thank you so much, in advance! >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> QUAKER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Rick Davis > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUAKER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message