It's important to keep in mind that monthly meetings didn't always follow the letter of the Discipline. A number of burying grounds permitted marked graves, even if they were supposed to be under the ban. Others followed the rules strictly. I've found in Philadelphia Yearly Meeting, for example, that at London Grove in Chester County almost no grave markers before 1850 are to be found. But to the north, also in Chester County at Old Caln, there are numerous markers before 1850. Some Friends meetings today restrict burial to members simply because space is limited. I don't know of any that still ban tombstones. Most yearly meetings began allowing small, plain stones in the 1850s. Tom Hamm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Cooke" <cookerl3@aol.com> To: treadway@netins.net, quaker-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 6:52:29 PM Subject: Re: [Q-R] Quaker Funerals Thanks Dan, In 1806, without multiple signed written permission, burials of non-members was expressly forbidden in a Friend's Burial Grounds. The use of headstones of any type was not permitted and if one was found, it was to be removed immediately. Pretty serious stuff. ...Is there a latest edition of the Book of Discipline?... According to Wikipedia: "Philadelphia Yearly Meeting published their Rules of Discipline of the Yearly Meeting of Friends held in Philadelphia in 1806, with paragraphs on each of the main practices and testimonies of Friends in that Yearly Meeting arranged in alphabetical order. The title Faith and Practice was first applied to Philadelphia Yearly Meeting's book of discipline in 1955 and it was revised in 1972, 1979, and 1997, with minor revisions in 2002" So, technically, these and other rules may still be on the books/active? rlc -----Original Message----- From: Daniel W Treadway <treadway@netins.net> To: Bob Cooke <cookerl3@aol.com>; quaker-roots <quaker-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, May 25, 2013 4:55 pm Subject: Re: [Q-R] Quaker Funerals On Thu, 23 May 2013 20:23:54 -0400 (EDT) Bob Cooke <cookerl3@aol.com> wrote: > > > How does a Quaker funeral differ from a regular Christian funeral? >Do Friends allow dedications or eulogies for the departed or is it >silent as they are during meeting? Would the dedication or eulogy be >given by a "minister" or as in meeting, there is no "minister" and >someone would just rise and begin speaking? Is there a timeframe for >the length of a service, could they last 60 to 90 minutes or longer? >Is there a timeframe for the actual burial? Early on many Quakers >were buried in unmarked graves, so it seems they didn't want any type >of recognition. Would this lack of recognition discipline prevent >dedications and/or eulogies from being given? Could someone be >disowned for giving one? > > Thank you, > Robert Cooke > Bob, the 1806 Philadelphia Yearly Meeting Book of Discipline is available on line at http://www.qhpress.org/texts/obod/index.html. Click on the link for Births and Burials to see that section. -- Dan Treadway P. O. Box 72 Gilbert IA 50105 treadway@netins.net http://showcase.netins.net/web/treadway/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUAKER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message