OK - I found them in the 1850 census for E.C. River, Bibb, Alabama. First name spelled Hiram, last name is spelled Mitchel. His dob is 1805, and his spouse, Mourning, dob 1803. Children with them: Adaline M age 18, Samuel age 13, Eliza age 12, and John age 6. Hiram is listed as a "Collier", his place of birth is listed as Tennessee as is Mournings' and Adalines'. The other children were listed as having been born in Alabama. IN the 1860 census for E.C. River, Bibb, Alabama, Hiram Mitchell (with this spelling: Mitchell) is listed same dob and birthplace. He is living in West Side Cahaba River, Bibb Alabama, and his spouse is Susan C. Mitchell, age 53, born in North Carolina. John Mitchell, assumedly in the 1850 census, is living with them and is age 16 now. Also, there is a Henry Mitchell age 4, Sarah L. Mitchell age 5 months (both born in Alabama as signified by the initials DO for ditto), and a James Gentry age 21, and Adeline Russell (not the same as in the previous census with last name of Mitchel) age 18, born in Alabama. On Jan 25, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Kimberly Spangrude wrote: There is a marriage certificate on file for a Susan Corley and Hiram Mitchell. Here is the page placemark from Ancestry: Alabama, Marriage Collection, 1800-1969 about Susan Corley Name: Susan Corley Spouse: Hiram Mitchell Marriage Date: 24 Aug 1854 County: Bibb State: Alabama Source information: Hunting For Bears So if this is Hiram and Susan C. (possibly for Corley?) Mitchell in the 1860 census, Hiram and Mourning would have had to divorce or Mourning would have had to die between 1850 and 1860. That is about all I could find! Kim > Cyndi, > I can't find a record of them in the Bibb County, Alabama 1850 census. I searched for Hiram Mitchell and spouse Mourning or Morning, and I changed the spelling of Hiram to Hyram, Hyrum, and Hirum- also tried Mitchell and Mitchel. I did find a non population record for agriculture with a Hiram Mitchell in Bibb County, Alababa for 1850. Could you send a link to the census you are referring to on ancestry? > Thanks, Kim > On Jan 25, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Kimberly Spangrude wrote: > >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Cyndi <cjhulett@comcast.net> >>> Subject: RE: [Q-R] Tennessee Quaker's >>> Date: January 25, 2013 10:42:01 AM MST >>> To: 'Kimberly Spangrude' <kimspangrude@mac.com> >>> >>> A marriage record would be great. What county they lived, were born in Tennessee? What do I know about them, what I sent and that is about it! >>> >>> Thank you >>> >>> From: Kimberly Spangrude [mailto:kimspangrude@mac.com] >>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 11:08 AM >>> To: Cyndi >>> Subject: Re: [Q-R] Tennessee Quaker's >>> >>> Cyndi, what specifically are you trying to find out about Mourning or Hiram, and what do you already know about them? Otherwise, people will be just digging up what you already know. Not trying to be snippity, but sometimes it helps to be a bit specific when trying to get bast "brick walls". >>> Kim Townsend Spangrude >>> On Jan 25, 2013, at 10:00 AM, Cyndi wrote: >>> >>> >>> In the 1850 Federal census for Bibb County, AL, it does show Hiram and his wife, Mourning. >>> >>> Thank you >>> Cyndi >>> >>> From: Kimberly Spangrude [mailto:kimspangrude@mac.com] >>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 10:51 AM >>> To: Cyndi >>> Subject: Re: [Q-R] Tennessee Quaker's >>> >>> http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.mitchell/11217/mb.ashx >>> >>> This message on rootsweb states that there is misinformation about two different Hiram Mitchells and that there may not have been a wife named "Mourning". >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 25, 2013, at 9:30 AM, Cyndi wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you so much for the information but my ancestor’s married name was Mourning Mitchell and she was married to Hiram Mitchell. You are very kind to have supplied me with such a quick answer and your kindness is much appreciated. >>> >>> Cyndi >>> >>> From: Kimberly Spangrude [mailto:kimspangrude@mac.com] >>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 10:19 AM >>> To: Thomas Hamm; Cyndi; QUAKER Roots >>> Subject: Re: [Q-R] Tennessee Quaker's >>> >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sweetpoe/landers/alrev.html >>> >>> John Landers (b.Aug. 15, 1757 Granville Co. N.C. - D.Oct. 30, 1840 in Benton Co. Alabama) Unknown where buried. >>> Service: PVT. Va. Volunteered at the commencement of the war and served in Capt. Jesse Saunders' Co. of N.C. Militia in an expedition against Scotch Tories. Enlisted in Prince Edward Co. Va. while on visit to his uncle, served in Capt. Allen's Co. in Va. Militia. Served other tours and was discharged September 22, 1781. He was a Minister of the Gospel for 40 yrs. >>> Pension: Cert.No. 23 283 >>> Issued: Dec. 18, 1833 Under Act of June 7, 1832, Ga. Agency. Pension 5 16 444. Last payment paid Aug. 27, 1841 to John Landers Jr. in care of W.H. Eifell, Jacksonville, Al. an attorney for the widow. >>> Residences: reared in Granville Co. N.C. resided there at beginning of war, after the war he moved to Columbia Co. Ga., lived there 9 yrs. then returned to N.C. and resided in Caswell Co. about 29 yrs. Then moved to DeKalb Co. Ga. where he resided in 1833. >>> Family: m1. Lucky JOHNSTON >>> m2. Morning (Mourning) MITCHELL b.Va. >>> Children: >>> John Landers Jr. >>> >>> Ref: Patriot Index, Gandrud Al. Records Vol.152 pg.97 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 25, 2013, at 9:04 AM, Thomas Hamm wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The only Quaker settlements in Tennessee were in East Tennessee--Blount, Greene, Washington, Jefferson, and Knox counties. While some Quakers used "Mourning" as a daughter's name, I have found non-Quakers who also did. >>> >>> T. Hamm >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: "Cyndi" <cjhulett@comcast.net> >>> To: QUAKER-ROOTS@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 10:48:11 AM >>> Subject: [Q-R] Tennessee Quaker's >>> >>> Good morning, >>> >>> >>> >>> Does anyone on this list know where in Tennessee, or what area the Quaker's >>> resided? I have an ancestor whose first name was Mourning and I was told >>> that it was a Quaker name. Her last name, married was Mitchel/Mitchell and >>> they moved to Alabama abt 1830. 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