Jean, I am thrilled to hear from you! I agree that you and I are cousins! My premise is that two brothers moved from Pa to New Garden MM about 1763. One brother was Abraham and the other was Jacob. It is the Abraham's that have been sooooo confusing that I have finally think that I have figured out. Abraham had a son named Abraham and Jacob also had a son named Abraham. I descend from the Abraham who was the son of Jacob. The reason that he is not named in the below Hinshaw information is that he was not born until 1765. By the time Jacob and Elizabeth move or change MM, I believe that the older children have married and moved out of the home and so the children of Jacob and Elizabeth has slightly changed: 1784, 1,31, Jacob (Ellot) & w. Elizabeth, & ch. William, Abraham, Eliz & Rachel, gct Center MM (again from Hinshaw--but I do think that I have a copy of the original) It is also my belief that the Elizabeth who married Hugh Maxwell in 1787 is sister to my Abraham Elliott and daughter of our shared Jacob and Abraham Elliott. Here is what I have in my data base about your Hugh and Elizabeth; > Cane Creek MM page 408 Hinshaw Vol I > Maxwell > 1790,8,7 Elizabeth rocf Center MM, NC, dated 1790,7,17 > 1792,10,6 Hugh recrq (received by request) > 1792,10,6 Elizabeth, dt Hugh and Elizabeth, recrq > 1797, 10, 7 Hugh and sons gct Lost Creek MM [Tenn] > 1797, 10, 7 Elizabeth (with h) and children gct Lost Creek MM [Tenn] > > In the information for Abraham, I note that the date of birth does not > work....so need to double check the assumption that this is correct > information ( I am not sure without some digging what this last piece > of information means...) But I am almost sure that the following siblings moved from the Randolph/Guilford/Orange/Rowan County area (I have not done the land research to figure out exactly where they were all living) to Lost Creek in Tennessee then on to Wayne County, Indiana. My Abraham moved back to Warren County, Ohio during the Indian trouble around 1812 where several of his children married. One of his sons, Abner, then stayed in Ohio with his wife's people (she was Hannah Stubbs/Steubs.....oh, shoot...I don't have any more time....let me name the siblings (all children of Jacob and Elizabeth Elliott)that I think were at Lost Creek with families: Elizabeth and Hugh Maxwell Israel and Welmet Lamb Elliott Abraham and his wife (I think that her name may have been Rachel) and then I think that Israel and Welmet may have had a son named Jacob who married Ann (I can't come up with her maiden name by memory) who was also with them. I am sorry that I don't have time to dig up my files to give you more information....But I can only say that I am sooooo excited to find someone else to work on this line with me! I can't wait to share all that I have. Unfortunately my life is popping right now. Keep writing and I'll try to keep chatting. Marsha in WV Jean Leeper wrote: > > On Oct 4, 2004, at 6:22 AM, marsha moses wrote: > > "1763, 11, 26. Jacob (Ellott) & W& ch, Jacob, Elizabeth, Hannah, > Israel & William rocf Warrington MM, Pa, > > dated 1763, 9, 20 (I have a copy of the original MM records for this)" > > I believe that Jacob and daughter Elizabeth could be my line. My > Elizabeth Elliott married Hugh Maxwell in 1787 > Elliott in N. C. They can be found in Cane Creek M. M. and Center M. > M. in the Guilford County area after their marriage. Do you have > anything else on this family? People have been trying to tell me my > Elizabeth was from Perquimans County also but I can not find the > paper trail. > > Jean > > g
On Monday, October 4, 2004, at 10:26 AM, marsha moses wrote: > Jean, I am thrilled to hear from you! I agree that you and I are > cousins! My premise is that two brothers moved from Pa to New Garden > MM about 1763. One brother was Abraham and the other was Jacob. It > is the Abraham's that have been sooooo confusing that I have finally > think that I have figured out. Abraham had a son named Abraham and > Jacob also had a son named Abraham. I descend from the Abraham who > was the son of Jacob. The reason that he is not named in the below > Hinshaw information is that he was not born until 1765. By the time > Jacob and Elizabeth move or change MM, I believe that the older > children have married and moved out of the home and so the children > of Jacob and Elizabeth has slightly changed: > > > 1784, 1,31, Jacob (Ellot) & w. Elizabeth, & ch. William, Abraham, Eliz > & Rachel, gct Center MM (again from Hinshaw--but I do think that I > have a copy of the original) > > It is also my belief that the Elizabeth who married Hugh Maxwell in > 1787 is sister to my Abraham Elliott and daughter of our shared Jacob > and Abraham Elliott. Here is what I have in my data base about your > Hugh and Elizabeth; > >> Cane Creek MM page 408 Hinshaw Vol I >> Maxwell >> 1790,8,7 Elizabeth rocf Center MM, NC, dated 1790,7,17 >> 1792,10,6 Hugh recrq (received by request) >> 1792,10,6 Elizabeth, dt Hugh and Elizabeth, recrq >> 1797, 10, 7 Hugh and sons gct Lost Creek MM [Tenn] >> 1797, 10, 7 Elizabeth (with h) and children gct Lost Creek MM [Tenn] >> >> In the information for Abraham, I note that the date of birth does >> not work....so need to double check the assumption that this is >> correct information ( I am not sure without some digging what this >> last piece of information means...) > > > But I am almost sure that the following siblings moved from the > Randolph/Guilford/Orange/Rowan County area (I have not done the land > research to figure out exactly where they were all living) to Lost > Creek in Tennessee then on to Wayne County, Indiana. My Abraham moved > back to Warren County, Ohio during the Indian trouble around 1812 > where several of his children married. One of his sons, Abner, then > stayed in Ohio with his wife's people (she was Hannah > Stubbs/Steubs.....oh, shoot...I don't have any more time....let me > name the siblings (all children of Jacob and Elizabeth Elliott)that I > think were at Lost Creek with families: > > Elizabeth and Hugh Maxwell > Israel and Welmet Lamb Elliott > Abraham and his wife (I think that her name may have been Rachel) > > and then I think that Israel and Welmet may have had a son named Jacob > who married Ann (I can't come up with her maiden name by memory) who > was also with them. I am sorry that I don't have time to dig up my > files to give you more information....But I can only say that I am > sooooo excited to find someone else to work on this line with me! I > can't wait to share all that I have. Unfortunately my life is popping > right now. Keep writing and I'll try to keep chatting. Marsha in WV > > > > > Jean Leeper wrote: > >> > On Oct 4, 2004, at 6:22 AM, marsha moses wrote: >> > "1763, 11, 26. Jacob (Ellott) & W& ch, Jacob, Elizabeth, Hannah, >> Israel & William rocf Warrington MM, Pa, >> > dated 1763, 9, 20 (I have a copy of the original MM records for >> this)" >> >> I believe that Jacob and daughter Elizabeth could be my line. My >> Elizabeth Elliott married Hugh Maxwell in 1787 >> Elliott in N. C. They can be found in Cane Creek M. M. and Center M. >> M. in the Guilford County area after their marriage. Do you have >> anything else on this family? People have been trying to tell me my >> Elizabeth was from Perquimans County also but I can not find the >> paper trail. >> >> Jean >> >> g > Hi everyone, In my Lamb family history, I have a Welmet Lamb Elliott as follows: Welmet Lamb, daughter of Joseph Lamb and Frances Beeson, was born ca 1764, in Guilford Co., NC. She married ca 1779, NC, to Israel Elliott, who was born 28 July 1759, in York Co., PA, died 30 May 1821, Wayne Co., IN, son of Jacob and Elizabeth Elliott. Chn: 1. Eve Elliott, b 25 Jan 1787, NC , 2. Esther Elliott , b ca 1780, Wayne Co., IN 3. Israel Elliott 4. Edith Elliott 5. Jacob B Elliott II, born 22 Aug 1793 near Duckcreek MM, Henry Co., IN. he was married before 1804, in Lost Creek, TN, to Ann Stone, who was born 4 Jan 1785 Note that their son Jacob B was married to Ann Stone. I have Welmet's complete ancestry, but I surely would like to get Jacob's and Elizabeth's background, and very very much like to have the info on the children of Welmet. Were there more than 5 children? When did Welet die? Can you help me? I'm sorry I can't give you any authority, except the Quaker Encyopedia. I began this over forty years ago, and in the beginning I wasn't very good about documenting. 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To Marsha and Joyce and others, As I write this more E-mails are coming in. Thanks Jerry for your input. I have added a little to my data base this evening and this is what I have now on Elizabeth Elliott who married Hugh Maxwell. Is it correct? If anyone wants more on Hugh and Elizabeth's descendants let me know. I would like more on Elizabeth's sibling's families if anyone wants to share. First Generation ********************* 1. John ELLIOTT. Born ca 1700. Names and dates for John, Sarah and children from Jerry Richmond Notes from Jerry “ It appears that John and Sarah Elliott transferred their membership from Burlington MM, NJ to New Garden MM, Chester Co, PA in 1722. They may have been Charter Members when Sadsbury MM was established by New Garden MM.” John married Sarah, in PA? They had the following children: 2 i. Abraham (ca1725-) 3 ii. Jacob (ca1728-) 4 iii. Benjamin (ca1730-) Second Generation ********************* Family of John ELLIOTT (1) & Sarah 2. Abraham ELLIOTT. Born ca 1725. 3. Jacob ELLIOTT. Born ca 1728. Jacob and his brother Abraham bring a Certificate from Pennsylvania when they arrive at New Garden MM. Here is what (mosesm@earthlink.net) Marsha’s data base says : Elliott "1763, 11, 26. Jacob (Ellott) & W& ch, Jacob, Elizabeth, Hannah, Israel & William rocf Warrington MM, Pa, dated 1763, 9, 20 (Marsha has a copy of the original MM records for this)" New Garden MM, NC Records 1782, 4, 27 Jacob (Ellot) and wife Elizaberth and children William, Abraham, Elizabeth and Rachel, rocf Center MM, NC dated 1781,7,21. 1784 1,31, Jacob (Ellot) and wife Elizabeth and children William Abraham,, Eliz and Rachel, get Center MM. Cane Creek MM Records 1792, 4, 7 Jacob rocf Center MM. N.C. dated 1792,3,17. Ca 1755 Jacob married Elizabeth, in Lancaster County, PA. Elizabeth died on 28 Oct 1791 in Center MM, NC. aged 58 yrs. They had the following children: 5 i. Jacob (<1763-) 6 ii. Elizabeth (<1763-<1766) 7 iii. Hannah (<1763-) 8 iv. Israel (<1763-) 9 v. William (<1763-) 10 vi. Elizabeth (1766-1841) 11 vii. Abraham 12 viii. Rachel 4. Benjamin ELLIOTT. Born ca 1730. Third Generation ********************* Family of Jacob ELLIOTT (3) & Elizabeth 5. Jacob ELLIOTT. Born bef 1763. 6. Elizabeth ELLIOTT. Born bef 1763. Elizabeth died bef 1766. (Not sure who from but they said she died young so would have to be before the second Elizabeth) 7. Hannah ELLIOTT. Born bef 1763. 8. Israel ELLIOTT. Born bef 1763. 9. William ELLIOTT. Born bef 1763. 10. Elizabeth ELLIOTT, GGGG Grandmother. Born on 7 Jun 1766 in North Carolina. (?Perquimans Co. N. C. does not fit.?) Elizabeth died in Salem IN, on 4 Mar 1841; she was 74. Buried in Friends Cemetery Salem, IN. Jacob and his brother Abraham bring a Certificate from Pennsylvania when they arrive at New Garden MM. Here is what, (mosesm@earthlink.net), Marcia’s data base says: Elliott "1763, 11, 26. Jacob (Ellott) & W& ch, Jacob, Elizabeth, Hannah, Israel & William rocf Warrington MM, Pa, dated 1763, 9, 20 (She has a copy of the original MM records for this)" New Garden MM, NC Records 1782, 4, 27 Jacob (Ellot) and wife Elizaberth and children William, Abraham, Elizabeth and Rachel, rocf Center MM, NC dated 1781,7,21. 1784 1,31, Jacob (Ellot) and wife Elizabeth and children William Abraham,, Eliz and Rachel, get Center MM. Cane Creek MM Records 1792, 4, 7 Jacob rocf Center MM. N.C. dated 1792,3,17. On 30 Dec 1787 when Elizabeth was 21, she married Hugh MAXWELL, GGGG Grandfather, son of John MAXWELL (ca 1718/1720-aft 1762/1772) & Elizabeth McLENDON (McLANDEN) (1706/1710-? 1762), in North Carolina. Born on 9 Feb 1762 in North Carolina. Hugh died in Union Co IN, on 8 Jun 1830; he was 68. Buried in Salem Friends Cemetery, IN (another person Ward Cem.). Hugh and Elizabeth may have joined the Society of Friends after the Presbyterian Church split. I, Jean, have a map of Guilford County North Carolina in 1781 that shows the church on it. It was about 15,000 feet southeast of Guilford Courthouse, where the important battle of the Revolutionary War took place. The following Quaker church records show the Maxwell name for the first time. FROM P 408 CANE CREEK MONTHLY MEETING N.C. church records Guilford Co. N. C. 1790 8,7 Elizabeth rocf Center Monthly Meeting N. C. dated 1790 7,17 1792 10.6 Hugh recrq. 1792 10,6 Elizabeth dt. Hugh & Elizabeth recrq. They later go to Lost Creek Monthly Meeting in Tenn and listing of their children is on page 1108 of those records. They went to the Richmond area of IN My family line from there went to near Richmond, IN and in 1840 on to Salem, Iowa. another source says Hugh died 1 Dec 1838. (N. Wayne Cosby of Watson LA) They had the following children: i. John (1789-) ii. Elizabeth (1791-) iii. Jacob (1792-1845) iv. William (1794-) v. Hannah (1795-) vi. Thomas (1797-) vii. Mary (1799-) viii. Hugh (1801-) ix. David (1802-) x. Rachel (1804-) xi. Ruth (1806-) xii. Matilda (1808-) xiii. Lydia (1810-) 11. Abraham ELLIOTT. 12. Rachel ELLIOTT. On Oct 4, 2004, at 10:26 AM, marsha moses wrote: Jean, I am thrilled to hear from you! I agree that you and I are cousins! My premise is that two brothers moved from Pa to New Garden MM about 1763. One brother was Abraham and the other was Jacob. It is the Abraham's that have been sooooo confusing that I have finally think that I have figured out. Abraham had a son named Abraham and Jacob also had a son named Abraham. I descend from the Abraham who was the son of Jacob. The reason that he is not named in the below Hinshaw information is that he was not born until 1765. By the time Jacob and Elizabeth move or change MM, I believe that the older children have married and moved out of the home and so the children of Jacob and Elizabeth has slightly changed: 1784, 1,31, Jacob (Ellot) & w. Elizabeth, & ch. William, Abraham, Eliz & Rachel, gct Center MM (again from Hinshaw--but I do think that I have a copy of the original) It is also my belief that the Elizabeth who married Hugh Maxwell in 1787 is sister to my Abraham Elliott and daughter of our shared Jacob and Abraham Elliott. Here is what I have in my data base about your Hugh and Elizabeth; > Cane Creek MM page 408 Hinshaw Vol I > Maxwell > 1790,8,7 Elizabeth rocf Center MM, NC, dated 1790,7,17 > 1792,10,6 Hugh recrq (received by request) > 1792,10,6 Elizabeth, dt Hugh and Elizabeth, recrq > 1797, 10, 7 Hugh and sons gct Lost Creek MM [Tenn] > 1797, 10, 7 Elizabeth (with h) and children gct Lost Creek MM [Tenn] > > In the information for Abraham, I note that the date of birth does not > work....so need to double check the assumption that this is correct > information ( I am not sure without some digging what this last piece > of information means...) But I am almost sure that the following siblings moved from the Randolph/Guilford/Orange/Rowan County area (I have not done the land research to figure out exactly where they were all living) to Lost Creek in Tennessee then on to Wayne County, Indiana. My Abraham moved back to Warren County, Ohio during the Indian trouble around 1812 where several of his children married. One of his sons, Abner, then stayed in Ohio with his wife's people (she was Hannah Stubbs/Steubs.....oh, shoot...I don't have any more time....let me name the siblings (all children of Jacob and Elizabeth Elliott)that I think were at Lost Creek with families: Elizabeth and Hugh Maxwell Israel and Welmet Lamb Elliott Abraham and his wife (I think that her name may have been Rachel) and then I think that Israel and Welmet may have had a son named Jacob who married Ann (I can't come up with her maiden name by memory) who was also with them. I am sorry that I don't have time to dig up my files to give you more information....But I can only say that I am sooooo excited to find someone else to work on this line with me! I can't wait to share all that I have. Unfortunately my life is popping right now. Keep writing and I'll try to keep chatting. Marsha in WV Jean Leeper wrote: > > On Oct 4, 2004, at 6:22 AM, marsha moses wrote: > > "1763, 11, 26. Jacob (Ellott) & W& ch, Jacob, Elizabeth, Hannah, > Israel & William rocf Warrington MM, Pa, > > dated 1763, 9, 20 (I have a copy of the original MM records for > this)" > > I believe that Jacob and daughter Elizabeth could be my line. My > Elizabeth Elliott married Hugh Maxwell in 1787 > Elliott in N. C. They can be found in Cane Creek M. M. and Center M. > M. in the Guilford County area after their marriage. Do you have > anything else on this family? People have been trying to tell me my > Elizabeth was from Perquimans County also but I can not find the paper > trail. > > Jean > > g ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE. 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Wow! Jean, your organization is really wonderful! I just returned from Warren County, Ohio where I was looking at Elliotts, Thomas's and McKinseys who moved with the Quaker families from NC and SC in the early 1800's. I have a little bit of new information that I will share as soon as I have time. I can't wait to read your info, Jean....but it has hit at an exceptionally busy time for me. I'll get back with you as soon as I get a few hours. I have quite a bit of information on Abraham and Abraham Jr. (the Abraham who was brother to my Jacob who married Elizabeth and his son named Abraham) because I was years figuring out the three Abraham's who showed up in the Randolph County Censuses. If no one else shares that, I'll send it along when I get time. And I have a list of Abraham and Rachel's children. What I don't have is proof that Abraham's wife was named Rachel. At least it is not documented in my data base. When I get time, I'll look in my files and piles to see why I put Rachel as name for Abraham's wife. Remind me of my promise. This big breakthrough on my Elliott family has been so much fun and so exciting. For anyone just starting to read my information, it started when I found Abraham's will two years ago with a trip to Ft. Wayne Indiana ( I had a measley two hours there....but VERY worthwhile). To clarify this is Abraham Elliott who was the son of Jacob Elliot married to Elizabeth who moved from Pa to NC in 1763. The Abraham whose will I have was born to this couple in 1765. I still have not seen the orginal will --what I have in my files is a transcription. Then I found an article for Abraham's son, Joab, who died childless in Crawfordsville, Indiana which had wonderful information about Joab's ancestry. I will be happy to share that with you as well....again remind me of my promise. Thanks for sharing your Elliott report! I'll be back in touch. Marsha in WV Jean Leeper wrote: > To Marsha and Joyce and others, > As I write this more E-mails are coming in. Thanks Jerry for your > input. I have added a little to my data base this evening and this > is what I have now on Elizabeth Elliott who married Hugh Maxwell. Is > it correct? If anyone wants more on Hugh and Elizabeth's descendants > let me know. I would like more on Elizabeth's sibling's families if > anyone wants to share. > > First Generation > ********************* > >