What a wonderful piece of information. Thank you so much for sharing it. Dale - California -----Original Message----- From: Standcedargrove@aol.com [mailto:Standcedargrove@aol.com] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 3:37 PM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Q-R] Madden Surname This is in reply to a mailing from Linda Smith dated 12/03/2004 in which she seeks assistance in relating four separate Maddens in her family tree who seem to have connections with Quakers. I have seen a similar query from Linda Smith which she has submitted to the Madden Family Genealogy Forum on the internet.. In order to come to grips with this problem, one must have a clear concept of the pattern of Quaker migration in Colonial America, particularly of the migration of the Quakers who first settled in the Philadelphia area. This settlement began about 1675 in southern New Jersey, across the Delaware River from the Philadelphia site. The pace of settlement increased rapidly in 1682 under the leadership of William Penn, who had acquired the Pennsylvania Colony in 1681. By 1700 Quakers from the British Isles, along with many non-Quakers, had occupied much of the territory within a 25 mile radius of Philadelphia. Between 1700 and 1740, children of the first Quaker settlers, as well as some new immigrants from England and Ireland, had pushed out within a fifty mile radius of Philadelphia, although the Quaker constituency grew less and less farther to the west and north. Mennonites and other Germans settled beyond the Quakers, and Scotch-Irish settled in central Pennsylvania beyond the Mennonites. The mountainous area of western Pennsylvania seemed to remain under Indian control, and there seemed to be little white migration directly from western Pennsylvania into Ohio until after 1800. ----- From about 1725 until 1750, Quakers began moving down through western Maryland to Frederick and Loudon Counties in northern Virginia. Frederick County, VA covered much more territory than it does now, including Berkeley County, West VA. The center of the Quaker settlement in Frederick County was at Hopewell, outside of Winchester. Virginia, where a Monthly Meeting was organized in 1734. Unfortunately, the early records of Hopewell MM were destroyed by a fire ca 1758, so the early history of the Hopewell settlement is obscure. ------ Beginning about 1750 and extending to about 1775 and the beginning of the Revolutionary War, there was a large migration of Quakers from Pennsylvania, as well as from Virginia, to the Piedmont area of north-central North Carolina. The Colonial Virginia government had never been very hospitable to Quakers and North Carolina seemed more welcoming. The earliest Quaker Meeting in the Piedmont was at Cane Creek, near the present town of Snow Camp, in what is now Alamance County, but which was in Orange County in Colonial times. Cane Creek MM was established ca. 1750, including in its original membership all of the early Quaker settlers in the Piedmont, with many other Monthly Meetings being organized during the remaining of the century. The Spring Meeting settlement was only three miles or so from Cane Creek. Spring Preparative Meeting became a Monthly Meeting in 1793.------- The early Quaker settlers in the Piedmont soon discovered that the North Carolina government, centered in the Tidewater area on the Eastern Shore, had designs for heavy taxation of the new Piedmont settlers. This led to the Regulator Movement of the 1760's and early 1770's which became quite violent. To escape this situation, a Quaker migration to the back country of South Carolina began about 1765, including some of the early North Carolina Piedmont settlers.The central Quaker settlement in northwestern South Carolina was at Bush River near Newberry, with other settlements throughout the area, extending to Wrightsborough, Georgia, about forty miles to the west. ----- At the end of the Revolutionary War, and extending to 1800 and after, there was extensive Quaker settlement in eastern Tennessee. ----- Shortly after 1800, to escape the encroaching Slavery oriented culture, there was a mass migration of Quakers from the Carolinas and Georgia, as well as from Virginia, into the Ohio territory. The South Carolina and Georgia settlements were decimated, with most of the Quakers moving into the Miami River area of southwestern Ohio. ---- By 1810 they were moving across the border into Indiana, and by 1825 they had reached the Vermilion River on the Indiana/Illinois border. A six volume set of abstracted Quaker records compiled under the direction of Willliam Wade Hinshaw, entitled_ An Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy_, documents the Quaker Monthly Meetings which were established during this migration through Virginia and the South and up thorough Ohio. A seventh volume to this set, published in six sections and an index, was compiled under the direction of Willard Heiss: _ Abstracts of the Records of the Society of Friends in Indiana_. However these works do not include abstracts of the Friends Meetings in the Chester County area of Pennsylvania. ---- A six volume set of such abstracts has been published in more recent years by the Selby Publishing Company and can be found in large genealogical libraries, along with the Hinshaw and Heiss volumes. --- But these records often do not tell the whole story. Many records have been lost, and scattered Quaker families on the Frontier were often not included. One must look for wills, land records, and other historical items to fill in the blanks. I do not have most of the Hinshaw-Heiss works at hand, except for Hinshaw records pertaining to the South Carolina and Georgia Monthly Meetings. I have the impression that members of the Madden family were often on the fringe of the Friends communities, often friends of the Friends. I will try to deal with two branches of your Madden family as they might relate to my mother's Quaker ancestry: In the Branch 4 which you describe, you state that George Madden b 16 Mar 1759 Chester County, PA m. Edith Harvey, d 1823 Clinton County, Ohio.----- I have an ancestor through the Hadley family, Jesse Towell, whose parents were married in July 1745 at Old Swedes Church in Wilmington, DE. Jesse Towell may have been born in York County, PA, probably not a birthright Quaker, although Henry Towell, his father seems to have had a sister who was a Quaker. ---- Jesse Towell seems to have followed the Quaker migration to Cane Creek, North Carolina, and in 1788 he was received into membership in Cane Creek MM by request. Jesse Towell's oldest son, John Towell, b 16 Nov. 1775 in Orange Co., NC., m. 11 Feb 1798 in Orange Co., NC, Martha Madden, b 15 Aug 1780, d 18 June 1817. My records indicate that Martha Madden was a daughter of George Madden and Edith (Harvey) Reynolds.----- It appears that Edith (Harvey) Reynolds, b. 20 Sep 1744 in Chester County, PA, was a daughter of Isaac Harvey and Martha Newlin, who were married 23 Feb 1740 in Concord Meeting, Chester County, PA. and moved with their family to the vicinity of Cane Creek MM, Orange Co. NC.(now in Alamance Co., NC.) sometime after 1750. Isaac and Mary (Newlin) Harvey were both buried in Spring Meeting Cemetery, Alamance Co., PA. Isaac Harvey was a son of William and Judey Harvey who had lived at Chads Ford, PA at the time of Isaac's birth on 21 Sep 1718. Martha Newlin was a daughter of Nathaniel Newlin, Jr. and Jane Woodward. Nathaniel Newlin, Jr. was a son of Nathaniel Newlin, Sr. and Mary Mendenhall. Nathaniel Newlin, Sr. was a son of Nicholas Newlin and Elizabeth Paggott who had brought their family to Concord, Chester Co., PA from Mountmelick, County Tyrone, Ireland in 1683. Mary Mendenhall was a daughter of Thomas Mildenhall and Joane Stroud and had been born in Ramsbury Parish, Wiltshire, England, probably coming to Concord, PA with her brothers, John and Benjamin Mendenhall ca. 1682-1683. My mother was a descendant of John Mendenhall. In the Branch 1 which you describe: Charles Madden m. Keturah Cook (dau of Isaac and Charity. I am a descendant of Isaac and Charity (Wright) Cook. My records indicate that Charles Madden was a son of John Madden, Jr., son of John and Bridget (Helm) Madden, but I am not sure of the source of this information.---- In browsing through the Maddem Family Genealogical Forum on the internet, I seem to have run across a statement that John and Susannah Madden brought their large family from Frederick County, VA to Laurens Co., South Carolina. On page 9 of this Madden Family Genealogy Forum there are a series of mailings dealing with the Maddens of Laurens County, SC. One lady, Susanne Liva, in a mailing dated March 22, 2004, states that she has much information concerning the family of John and Bridget (Helm) Madden, but she wants to share it off the web site. She seems to give no address. ----- Keturah Cook, eleventh child of Isaac and Charity (Wright) Cook, is not listed in the Bush River MM records, although her ten brothers and sisters are listed. Isaac and Charity were granted a certificate to Miami MM in Ohio on October 26, 1805, as part of the great migration of Quakers from the South which was taking place at that time. The Cooks seemed to touch base in Clinton County, Ohio, with some of the children and grandchildren being affiliated with Caesars Creek MM, but many of the family were on the move by 1810 to become members of Silver Creek MM near Liberty in Union County, Indiana. By 1830 some of the family had made their way across Indiana to the Indiana/Illinois border where, at Vermillion MM, Permilia Madden, daughter of Charles and Keturah (Cook) Madden, married, as his second wife, Jonathan D. Dillon. Permilia had previously been married to George Henderson. I will close this mailing by observing that it is possible that the George Madden who moved from Chester County, PA to Orange County, NC could have had a common ancestry in Chester County with a John Madden who moved from Frederick County, VA to Laurens County, SC. ------ Herbert Standing, Earlham, Iowa ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl