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    1. Re: [Q-R] Robert Stacy family query
    2. I have been researching the Stacey family for several years now and will attempt to answer some of your questions.......... you wrote>> Were Robert and Mahlon related?<< Yes ....... Mahlon (1638 - 1704), Thomas & Robert are brothers, they also have a sister Anne who married Godfrey Watkinson, who was Vicar of Clowne. you wrote>> There is another Mary Stacy who married John Renshawe in 1686 Burlington, NJ according to the Quaker records.Did Robert have a daughter named Mary ?<< In my opinion this is still up for debate.......... researchers on line do tend to claim that she is the daughter of Robert ...and have her listed as being born ca. 1659........ but I have not been able to find any proof of this so far....... From the Balby Monthly Meeting Records we can prove that Robert had the following children: Anne b. 7th day of the 7th month 1654 John b. 20th day of the 8th month 1656 Judith b. 12th day of the 5th month 1660 Eliz b. 25th day of the 8th month 1662 Ellen b. 21st day of the 4th month 1666 .......... Looking at these dates, of course it would be possible that she was born sometime between John and Judith, but the question that I find myself asking is why, since all the other's records are here wouldn't her's also be there? ............... Of course also according to researchers, the Will of Robert Stacy,Tanner of Philadelphia dated Nov 1699, probated 18 Oct 1701, names dau. Mary ............ I have not been able to see this will yet. IF he names her as dau Mary Renshawe, then of course that would be proof, but as I said I have not been able to see this Will yet..... .............and knowing that......... In NJ there was a Henry Stacey who had an heir ......... Mary Stacey, she is mentioned as such in my Samuel Barker's document dated June 23, 1685. This Henry is said by researchers to be the son of Robert......... which therefore, could mean that his "heir" Mary, could have been his wife? And actually the daughter in law of Robert, NOT the daughter. ........... I also have another interest in this couple, since my Samuel's son, John married Mary Renshawe on 12 May 1697 Whitwell Parish. I've speculated that this John Renshawe might be related to her. ........ ummm, criminy, I've got tons of documents piled here that I haven't touched since my friend, whom I was working on this with died in May, this is the first that I've been able to bring myself to touch them since his death. I know there are alot more clues buried in this pile. If you'd like to continue this please say the word and I'm happy to help with what I can. Good Luck, Pati > There is another Mary Stacy who married John Renshawe in 1686 Burlington, > NJ according to the Quaker records. > > I've been looking for this Mary's connection to the Stacy family. > > Both the Stacy's and this John Renshaw have connections to Derbyshire, > possible Eckington, England. > > Robert Stacy is indexed in the Court Records 1633-1694 Eckington as well as > John, Robert, and Thomas Renshaw. > > John Renshawe sold land to John Shinn in 1685. John Shinn married Ellen > Stacy, daughter of Robert Stacy. > > Were Robert and Mahlon related? Did Robert have a daughter named Mary ? > > Any help or ideas about Mary Stacy would be greatly appreciated! > > thanks >

    11/21/2004 05:58:14
    1. Re: [Q-R] Robert Stacy family query
    2. Bev
    3. Thank you so much for your response! I was especially delighted to hear of the Renshaw connection you mentioned. I would love to pursue this with you. I have a copy of the will of John Renshaw probated 1704 of Whitwell Parish, Derby England. It's hard to read and very long! just the type of thing we avid family historians love to spend lots and lots of time on....He mentions "John,the son of my son, deceased, now in New Jersey". We believe this grandson is John Renshaw who married Elizabeth Newcombe (Quaker records).... and have been working to prove whether or not John Renshawe who married Mary Stacy is the son of John Renshaw of Whitwell parish...and John who married Elz. Newcombe is the grandson mentioned in the will. If you'd like me to send it to you via email, let me know... It may contain a clue or two about your Mary. Certainly is in the right time frame. Thank you for the possibilities you have given me for the family of Mary Stacy. I found some land deeds this morning that I need to go back and review in which Mary Stacy, widow , sold land. I tend to agree with you that if Mary were the daughter of Robert, she would have been recorded as the other children were. I started researching the Rencher surname years and years ago with the solid understanding that "we" were in no way related to the early "Renshaws" of PA, MD, NJ....however, DNA testing has planted us in the exact same family! We are currently looking for Renshaws from the line of John of Whitwell to ask to test. It's difficult at best! Thank you again for your response... and I'd love to work on this some more with you. The Stacy family fascinates me ! > I have been researching the Stacey family for several years now and >will attempt to answer some of your questions.......... > I have been researching the Stacey family for several years now and >will attempt to answer some of your questions.......... > > you wrote>> Were Robert and Mahlon related?<< > > Yes ....... Mahlon (1638 - 1704), Thomas & Robert are brothers, >they also have a sister Anne who married Godfrey Watkinson, who was Vicar of >Clowne. > > you wrote>> There is another Mary Stacy who married John Renshawe in >1686 Burlington, NJ according to the Quaker records.Did Robert have a >daughter >named Mary ?<< > > In my opinion this is still up for debate.......... researchers on >line do tend to claim that she is the daughter of Robert ...and have her >listed >as being born ca. 1659........ but I have not been able to find any proof of >this so far....... > > From the Balby Monthly Meeting Records we can prove that Robert had >the following children: > >Anne b. 7th day of the 7th month 1654 >John b. 20th day of the 8th month 1656 >Judith b. 12th day of the 5th month 1660 >Eliz b. 25th day of the 8th month 1662 >Ellen b. 21st day of the 4th month 1666 > > .......... Looking at these dates, of course it would be possible that >she was born sometime between John and Judith, but the question that I find >myself asking is why, since all the other's records are here wouldn't >her's also >be there? ............... > > Of course also according to researchers, the Will of Robert >Stacy,Tanner of Philadelphia dated Nov 1699, probated 18 Oct 1701, names >dau. Mary >............ I have not been able to see this will yet. IF he names her as >dau Mary >Renshawe, then of course that would be proof, but as I said I have not been >able to see this Will yet..... > > .............and knowing that......... > > In NJ there was a Henry Stacey who had an heir ......... Mary Stacey, she >is mentioned as such in my Samuel Barker's document dated June 23, 1685. > > This Henry is said by researchers to be the son of Robert......... > which >therefore, could mean that his "heir" Mary, could have been his wife? And >actually the daughter in law of Robert, NOT the daughter. > > ........... I also have another interest in this couple, since my >Samuel's son, John married Mary Renshawe on 12 May 1697 Whitwell Parish. I've >speculated that this John Renshawe might be related to her. > > ........ ummm, criminy, I've got tons of documents piled here that I >haven't touched since my friend, whom I was working on this with died in May, >this is the first that I've been able to bring myself to touch them since his >death. I know there are alot more clues buried in this pile. If you'd like to >continue this please say the word and I'm happy to help with what I can. > > Good Luck, > Pati >

    11/22/2004 09:21:24