In a message dated 4/11/2005 6:53:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, CageyCat@aol.com writes: I don't know what faith John Haines followed. The rest were German Baptists/COB Brethren. --- Judy- HAINES is another name just like LANE--that could be English and could be German. While the LANEs could be LEHN, the HAINES could be HOENS/HANES/HAYNES/HAINES. The English family who descend from John HAINES of New Jersey are Quaker in the early generations while several German HANES/HOENS families in PA would be more likely to possibly be Brethren/Mennonite or Lutheran or German Reformed. You don't find TOO many intermarriages at an early date between the English Quaker HAINES descendants and the Germans. If they practiced a PA Dutch/German religion and married and lived within that group--they most likely descend from the German HOENS family of York County, PA or the HANES family of Berks County. I descend from both the New Jersey Quaker HAINES family and the York PA German HOENS family -- but the two lines for many generations married within their own communities and religious groups. Joan