Payne Marshall wrote: <snip> > HOWEVER, IF YOU KNOW OF ANY PRESENT DAY MARSHALL'S THAT CAN PROVE THEIR > ANCESTRY BACK TO ENGLAND OR WALES. WE WOULD BE WILLING TO PAY FOR THEM TO > GET > A Y-DNA TEST-----(Of course their ancestors would have to be male > Marshalls all the way back and their lineage not broken by a female for > the Y-DNA > TEST.) <snip> Well, there are plenty of Marshalls nowadays resident in England - I live next to one as it happens! But I have no idea whether any of them are keen enough genealogists to have traced themselves back to the seventeenth century. I don't think this approach will work. Just putting in a search for 'Marshall' in the non-parochial BMD database gets 12882 results from all over the country. So there are lots different Quaker and nonconformist families - finding a Marshall by chance who happens to come from the same family as you would be a considerable fluke. You would do much better to trace back from your known family in Ireland. Does the Quaker Digest for the Upper Grange Meeting provide any clues? What does it say about Jacob Marshall himself? Do you have a list of the other people at the meeting with him? [Ah, I see from a quick Google that the surnames are: Whiteside, Whitsitt, Forde, Mallon, Rigg or Riggs, Holden, Purdy, Hill, Sheppard, Rawlins, Simmons, Francis, Furnace, Boyd, Hobson, Haydock, Pillar, Calvert, Shaw, Douglas, Stockdale, Richardson, Jones, Courtney, Swenarton, Kerr, Marshall, Marsh, Laurence, Webb. What is known about the backgrounds of these people?] What connection does your Jacob Marshall have with Thomas & Annie Marshall who are listed as members of the meeting in 1680? The only meeting in England that comes up with both a Jacob and a Thomas in the seventeenth century is York, so it might be worth looking at wills there to see whether any mention is made of Irish connections. Chris Chris