Dear Leslie: I am researching an ancestor John Murray who was a partner in privateering during the American Revolution with Joseph Coleman Fisher and with Andrew Bunner and Thomas Leaming, Jr. both of whom were married to Fisher sisters. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/1pa/paarchivesseries/series2/vol2/pass2-03.html http://books.google.com/books?id=anseU09GDTkC&pg=PA60&lpg=PA60&dq=archives+merchant+%22andrew+bunner%22+-california+-defendant&source=web&ots=sibKZRd9F1&sig=di3bPrwCGCjdXEWuqm6bvxVAW54 http://books.google.com/books?id=anseU09GDTkC&pg=PA56&lpg=PA56&dq=archives+%22andrew+bunner%22+privateer&source=web&ots=sibKZPh7J-&sig=UjLs5amdVpr_eGP5A6boo0afIjo http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA305&lpg=PA305&dq=%22thomas+leaming%22+%22john+murray%22&source=web&sig=PDdKrYn76zHHWC6juGyWiVTgPbs&id=kdoLAAAAYAAJ&ots=8p1ylzaTnJ&output=html It appears that the Fisher family married into the Coleman family to give us Joseph Coleman Fisher--the partner with John Murray, Andrew Bunner, and Thomas Leaming. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sam/leaming.html At http://www.amphilsoc.org/library/bulletin/20011/footnote11.htm is mention of early Quaker William Fisher having descendants including Leaming and Bunner: >J. Bennet Hill & Margaret Howe Hill, "William Fisher, Early >Philadelphia Quaker, and His Eighteenth Century Descendants Surnamed >Bradford, Brown, Browne, Bunner, Cavender, Cooper, Corker, Fisher, >Hartley, Leaming, Lloyd, Lyon, Trotter and Wilson," Genealogies of >Pennsylvania Families, vol. 1, A-He, Pennsylvania Genealogies, p. 564. Here's an order to inspect two of Bunner's ships, with mention of Miers Fisher a prominent Quaker. http://books.google.com/books?id=9k0OAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA79&lpg=PA79&dq=archives+%22andrew+bunner%22+merchant&source=web&ots=xs9L7-B5f-&sig=zU0F0bg-XIzT3ycUkwn9kB6j7L8 I even came across a John Fisher Murray born in Dublin of Sir James Murray from Derry. <http://www.ul.ie/~childsp/CinA/Issue62/TOC33_Phosporous.htm>http://www.ul.ie/~childsp/CinA/Issue62/TOC33_Phosporous.htm Below there appears to be mention of Miers Fisher. I cannot tell if the other Fishers are mentioned by you. I would appreciate any information you have on my Murray ancestor or, at least, Joseph Coleman Fisher, or any connection of this Fisher family to Ulster, Scotland, or Jacobites. Thanks. At 04:40 PM 4/4/2009, you wrote: >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:24:37 -0400 >From: Leslie Bagwell <[email protected]> >Subject: [Q-R] Fisher / Wright >Cc: QUAKER ROOTS <[email protected]> >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >This is my Fisher line arv. Philadelphia 1682 with William Penn, below >that my Wright line >Leslie Wright Bagwell > > > >Descendants of John Fisher >-------------------------- >1-John Fisher b. Unknown, d. Unknown > +Margaret ? b. Unknown, d. Unknown >|-2-Thomas Fisher b. 1669, , , England, d. Unknown, Georgetown, Sussex, >| Delaware, USA >| +Margary Maud b. 1671, , , England, m. 1692, Lewes, Sussex, Delaware, >USA, >| d. Unknown, par. Joshua Maud and Elizabeth Parr >| |-3-Joshua Fisher b. 1707, , , Delaware, USA, d. 1 Feb 1783 >| | +Sarah Rowland b. 6 Dec 1716, Lewes, Sussex, Delaware, USA, m. 27 Jul >| | 1733, Lewes, Sussex, Delaware, USA, d. 4 Jan 1772, par. Thomas >Rowland >| | and Sarah Miers >| | |-4-Esther Fisher b. 28 Jul 1734, d. 4 Feb 1795 >| | |-4-Lydia Fisher b. 4 May 1736, d. 14 Mar 1807 >| | |-4-Thomas Fisher b. 6 May 1741, d. 6 Sep 1810 >| | |-4-Samuel Rowland Fisher b. 6 Nov 1745, d. 6 May 1834 >| | |-4-Miers Fisher b. 21 Jun 1748, d. 12 Mar 1819, Philadelphia, >| | | Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA >| | |-4-Jabez Maud Fisher b. 10 Sep 1750, , , Delaware, USA, d. Dec >1779, , , >| | | England >| | |-4-Sarah Fisher b. 1 Jun 1759, d. 17 Jan 1789 >| |-3-Margaret Fisher b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| | +Joseph Booth Jr b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| |-3-Elizabeth Fisher b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| | +Daniel Eyre b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| |-3-Margery Fisher b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| | +James Miers b. Unknown, d. Unknown, par. John Miers and Mary Haworth >| | |-4-Esther Miers b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| | |-4-Mary Miers b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| | |-4-Sarah Miers b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| | |-4-Elizabeth Miers b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| |-3-Esther Fisher b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| | +Abraham Wynkoop b. 1 Jul 1703, d. Unknown, par. Benjamin Wynkoop and >| | Femmetje Vander Huil >| | |-4-Phebe Wynkoop b. 28 Oct 1729, d. 17 Sep 1800 >| | |-4-Benjamin Wynkoop b. 23 Nov 1734, d. 2 Sep 1803 >| |-3-James Fisher b. Unknown, d. Abt 1747 >| | +? b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| | |-4-Esther Fisher b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| |-3-Jabez Maud Fisher b. Unknown, d. After 1742 >| +Sarah ? b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| |-4-Edward Fisher b. Unknown, d. 1791 >| |-4-Margaret Fisher b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| |-4-Fenwick Fisher b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| |-4-Elizabeth Maud Fisher b. Unknown, d. 31 Oct 1783 >|-2-John Fisher b. Unknown, , , England, d. Unknown >| +Elizabeth Light b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| |-3-John Fisher b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| | +Catherine ? b. Unknown, m. Bef 1730, d. 8 Mar 1744 >| | |-4-John Fisher b. 21 Feb 1730, d. Unknown >| | |-4-George Fisher b. 10 Feb 1732, d. 21 Feb 1777 >| | |-4-Catherine Fisher b. Feb 1735, d. Unknown >| | +Grace Lloyd b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| | |-4-Jabez Maud Fisher b. 1 Mar 1733, d. 21 Feb 1786 >| | |-4-William Fisher b. After 1744, d. Unknown >| | |-4-Sarah Fisher b. After 1744, d. Unknown >| | |-4-Thomas Fisher b. After 1744, d. Unknown >| | |-4-Elizabeth Fisher b. After 1744, d. After 1800 >| | |-4-Hannah Fisher b. After 1744, d. Unknown >| | |-4-James Fisher b. After 1744, d. Unknown >| |-3-James Fisher b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| |-3-William Fisher b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| |-3-Ann Fisher b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| +Enoch Cummings b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| |-4-Jane Cummings b. Unknown, d. 25 May 1775 >| |-4-Mary Cummings b. Unknown, d. Unknown >| |-4-Hannah Cummings b. Unknown, d. Unknown >|-2-James Fisher b. Unknown, d. Unknown >|-2-Ann Fisher b. Unknown, d. Unknown >|-2-Alice Fisher b. Unknown, d. Unknown >|-2-Sarah Fisher b. Unknown, d. Unknown >|-2-Rachel Fisher b. Unknown, d. Unknown >|-2-Rachel Fisher b. Unknown, d. Unknown Robert Burns 4877 Voltaire Street P.O.B. 7263 Ocean Beach (San Diego), CA U.S.A. 92167 (619) 223-0441 (voice) (847) 557-1220 (e-Fax) If you do not have eFax Messenger or an eFax Microviewer installed on your PC, download a free copy at http://www.efax.com/en/efax/twa/page/download E-Mail: <[email protected]> TM URL: http://www.OBLaw.com TM http://www.RobertBurns.biz