Thank you Janice, for getting in touch, and for your information. I did not have the court records. I notice that in one entry his name is spelled "Bercquer" and another it is "Bercker". The thought crossed my mind that....what if....Barker was actually an "Americanization" of his original name which has a foreign flavour, if these other spellings carry any grain of truth with them. French, Flemish?....perhaps this is why his background has always been a mystery, although this is also true of many other early English immigrants. Just something to keep in mind.... There were many Protestant dissenters from northern Europe who came early to this area. Another note. I found some early records of nearby NJ mentioning a Samuel Barker, but I believe I have eliminated this man because of dates and movements (he went back to England and perhaps died there).....from the possibility of being "ours". That Samuel Barker was from Derbyshire in England and seemed to be a well-off merchant. I also have Scarlett, Allen and Reynolds and Clayton families amongst my many Quaker lines. Esther Vawter and my mother (Mildred Haworth London) shared information on the Barkers for many years (Mother died in 1996). Let's keep in touch. Best wishes, Marilyn L. Winton > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [Q-R] FW: Samuel Barker of Christiana Hundred, DE> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:44:41 -0500> > Marilyn,> > I too descend from Samuel Barker, and have many of the same questions you > have regarding him and his family.> > I did not see the message from Mr. Standing about Christina Hundred area of > New Castle Co. DE but am always interested in any early history of that > area. Did the message go to Quaker Roots? When was it sent?> > I have a few tidbits of information which I will share with you.> First Samuel died in July of 1720. I have a copy of the Records of Old > Swedes Church, given me by Ester Barker Vawter of Fresno CA several years > ago. It is a typewritten account and not a photocopy of the original > record, so therefore subject to error. It states:> > "p. 251, 1720> Samuel Barker buried July 25th."> > Other entries of significance are:> p. 232, 1716,> Joseph Barker and Miss Johanna Clayton, married Sept. 27th.> > p. 241, 1717,> William Richardson and wife Mary's daughter Anna, 7 years old, the 5th of > last April, baptized July 31st, in the house of Samuel Barker.> William Richardson and wife Mary's child Mary, one year old 17th of March > last, baptized July 31st, in the house of Samuel Barker.> William Hicks and wife Anna's child William, born December 17, 1715, > baptized July 31st in the house of Samuel Barker. (they must have had a big > baptismal party that day)> > p. 265, 1721> Joseph Barker and wife Johanna's child Samuel, born March 30th, baptized May > 21st.> > also along with this record from Old Swede's is a record from Court of New > Castle On Delaware, 1676-1681. which states that a Samuel Berker served on a > jury (p. 174, January 3, 1677/8.> > p. 180 March 5, 1677/8> Upon the peticon of Samuel Bercqr & francis Holland, desiering a grant to > take up a seat of land, etc. The cort haue granted to Teticonrs to take up > each twoo hundred acres of Land they seating & Improoves the sd land > according to the order & Regulacons of his Honor the Governor. (I typed it > exactly as written)> > p. 261 December 3, 1678> Samuel Bercquer produc.....bill of Poul.....delivered.....Billop ye debt > proceeding from.......Barets desiring to haue.......opinon thereupon. > T.....opion that if the debt pro......francis Barents deceased, > that.....Billop (according to ye Counsill.....their Lettre to this Court > has........doe wth the same. (again I typed it exactly as written, > obviously it was very hard for the transcriber to figure out)> > then on p. 264 the following: (no date but it appears just after the above > date)> "A nomination for Elders & Churchwardens being this day delivered in Court. > The Court this day made the following election. Mr. John Moll and Mr. Jean > P. Jacquet for Elders and John Smith, Englebert Lott, Benjamin Gumry, Samuel > Bercker, and Will Penton for Church Wardens."> > Here are some of my thoughts on Samuel Barker. These are simply my theories > with no proof.:> > I don't think Samuel Barker was a Quaker, but instead a member of Old Swedes > Church. I think because he bought land from William Penn it is the assumed > of many that he was a Quaker. This would explain why he was buried at Old > Swedes instead of a Quaker burring ground. Somewhere I have heard his > children were all married there. There is a record of three of his > grandchildren being baptized there. I think that some of his children > became Quakers at some time and maybe only Daniel.> > I think that Old Swedes Church was the oldest and perhaps only church other > than Quaker meetings in the immediate area. I have noticed that several > Quakers in the Chester Co PA area who "married out" of Quaker meeting > married at Old Swedes.> > The whole thing with Samuel is a mystery. Apparently he was christened at > Claverley England in 1648. (If indeed it is the same Samuel). Some of the > dates for the birth of his children must be wrong in the genealogies when > you consider the above mentioned baptisms. I think Samuel and Agnes were > married in England, and probably some of their children were born there. I > believe her to be English. He would have been 30 years old in 1678 when he > is listed in Delaware records. I wish we could find a ship's record of > exactly when he arrived in Delaware, but I feel sure he was here before > 1682. He purchased land before that date. I think it is pretty well > established he did not come on the Welcome as some genealogies report> > I believe Daniel's wife's name was Elizabeth Nicholas, or Nichols.> > I put out a message a few years ago asking if anyone knew exactly where > Barkers Bridge was, and one response said it is under water today. About > ten years ago I was on the outskirts of Philadelphia , and I saw a > handpainted sign which said "Barkers Bridge" with an arrow pointing away > from Philadelphia. I was in the car with others and I didn't insist on > taking that road, but now I wish I had.> > If Samuel was born in 1648 and died in 1720, he would have been 72 years old > at death. This would be logical. He would have come to DE when he was > close to 30 years old and that makes sense. So all we have to prove is the > Samuel baptized in Claverely England and the Samuel that arrived in > Wilmington DE are the same person. (That shouldn't be hard----yeah right) I > did read in one of my many accounts of him that he was a man of > means------and it seems the Samuel Barker in Claverley was also. Perhaps > Samuel came to the colonies because he was a younger son and younger sons > did not inherit land in the 1600's in England.> > Anyway my thoughts.> > If you find out anything new I would sure like to hear of it. I will take > some time to carefully look through my materials and see if I find anything > else of significance.> > Janice> > > > > Janice Shives> [email protected]> researching: Newman, Reddick, Barker, Farlow, Jones, Richardson, > McDonald, Smiley, Pike, Hadley, Harmon, Coltrane, Clark, Bobbitt, Allen, > Scarlett, Lindley, Newlin, Reynolds, Brown, McConnel, Johnson, Battin, > Davison and others.> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marilyn Winton" <[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]>> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:20 PM> Subject: [Q-R] FW: Samuel Barker of Christiana Hundred, DE> > > > I hope this message will arrive correctly at Quaker-Roots this time, now I > am registered with my new e-mail!> > From: [email protected]: [email protected]: Samuel > Barker of Christiana Hundred, DEDate: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:51:07 -0600> > I read with interest, Mr Standing's comments on the Christiana area of New > Castle Co., DE and its early history. My Samuel Barker was buried 1705 I > think (perhaps 1707) at Old Swedes Church in Wilmington. As his sons and > families were all Quakers (Daniel Barker md. _____ Nichols or Nicholson), I > have always wondered why he was buried at Old Swedes Church. His wife's > name was Agnes, and I always wondered if she could have been Swedish. > Samuel Barker came to the colonies in 1682, supposedly. He is thought by > many to be the same Samuel Barker as the one baptised in Claverly, > Shropshire, England....but I have never seen any proof that this is one and > the same man.I have not been able to examine the Monthly Meeting Records for > Center MM or Wilmington MM. Can anyone help, who perhaps has further > information on this early Samuel Barker? His land was supposed to be at > "Barker's Bridge" on Red Clay Creek.Many thanks,Marilyn L. Winton> > Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. 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 Hello Ladies,            I have spent many years researching Samuel Barker of of NJ & Derbyshire, England.            I can confirm for you that the Samuel Barker of NJ & Derbyshire, Eng. are not the same as your Samuel. My Samuel Barker of NJ & Derbyshire actually never came to amercia, he just owned lots of property here. He was the Steward for Dame Martha Rhodes of Barlborough House. Good Luck in your search, Pati BLowers May -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn Winton <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 12:42 am Subject: Re: [Q-R] FW: Samuel Barker of Christiana Hundred, DE hank you Janice, for getting in touch, and for your information. I did not ave the court records. I notice that in one entry his name is spelled Bercquer" and another it is "Bercker". The thought crossed my mind hat....what if....Barker was actually an "Americanization" of his original name hich has a foreign flavour, if these other spellings carry any grain of truth ith them. French, Flemish?....perhaps this is why his background has always een a mystery, although this is also true of many other early English mmigrants. Just something to keep in mind.... There were many Protestant issenters from northern Europe who came early to this area. nother note. I found some early records of nearby NJ mentioning a Samuel arker, but I believe I have eliminated this man because of dates and movements he went back to England and perhaps died there).....from the possibility of eing "ours". That Samuel Barker was from Derbyshire in England and seemed to e a well-off merchant. also have Scarlett, Allen and Reynolds and Clayton families amongst my many uaker lines. Esther Vawter and my mother (Mildred Haworth London) shared nformation on the Barkers for many years (Mother died in 1996). et's keep in touch. est wishes, arilyn L. Winton > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [Q-R] FW: amuel Barker of Christiana Hundred, DE> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:44:41 -0500> > arilyn,> > I too descend from Samuel Barker, and have many of the same uestions you > have regarding him and his family.> > I did not see the message rom Mr. Standing about Christina Hundred area of > New Castle Co. DE but am lways interested in any early history of that > area. Did the message go to uaker Roots? When was it sent?> > I have a few tidbits of information which I ill share with you.> First Samuel died in July of 1720. I have a copy of the ecords of Old > Swedes Church, given me by Ester Barker Vawter of Fresno CA everal years > ago. It is a typewritten account and not a photocopy of the riginal > record, so therefore subject to error. It states:> > "p. 251, 1720> amuel Barker buried July 25th."> > Other entries of significance are:> p. 232, 716,> Joseph Barker and Miss Johanna Clayton , married Sept. 27th.> > p. 241, 717,> William Richardson and wife Mary's daughter Anna, 7 years old, the 5th of last April, baptized July 31st, in the house of Samuel Barker.> William ichardson and wife Mary's child Mary, one year old 17th of March > last, aptized July 31st, in the house of Samuel Barker.> William Hicks and wife nna's child William, born December 17, 1715, > baptized July 31st in the house f Samuel Barker. (they must have had a big > baptismal party that day)> > p. 65, 1721> Joseph Barker and wife Johanna's child Samuel, born March 30th, aptized May > 21st.> > also along with this record from Old Swede's is a record rom Court of New > Castle On Delaware, 1676-1681. which states that a Samuel erker served on a > jury (p. 174, January 3, 1677/8.> > p. 180 March 5, 1677/8> pon the peticon of Samuel Bercqr & francis Holland, desiering a grant to > take p a seat of land, etc. The cort haue granted to Teticonrs to take up > each woo hundred acres of Land they seating & Improoves the sd land > according to he order & Regulacons of his Honor the Governor. (I typed it > exactly as ritten)> > p. 261 December 3, 1678> Samuel Bercquer produc.....bill of oul.....delivered.....Billop ye debt > proceeding from.......Barets desiring to aue.......opinon thereupon. > T.....opion that if the debt pro......francis arents deceased, > that.....Billop (according to ye Counsill.....their Lettre o this Court > has........doe wth the same. (again I typed20it exactly as ritten, > obviously it was very hard for the transcriber to figure out)> > then n p. 264 the following: (no date but it appears just after the above > date)> A nomination for Elders & Churchwardens being this day delivered in Court. > he Court this day made the following election. Mr. John Moll and Mr. Jean > P. acquet for Elders and John Smith, Englebert Lott, Benjamin Gumry, Samuel > ercker, and Will Penton for Church Wardens."> > Here are some of my thoughts on amuel Barker. These are simply my theories > with no proof.:> > I don't think amuel Barker was a Quaker, but instead a member of Old Swedes > Church. I think ecause he bought land from William Penn it is the assumed > of many that he was Quaker. This would explain why he was buried at Old > Swedes instead of a uaker burring ground. Somewhere I have heard his > children were all married here. There is a record of three of his > grandchildren being baptized there. I hink that some of his children > became Quakers at some time and maybe only aniel.> > I think that Old Swedes Church was the oldest and perhaps only church ther > than Quaker meetings in the immediate area. I have noticed that several Quakers in the Chester Co PA area who "married out" of Quaker meeting > arried at Old Swedes.> > The whole thing with Samuel is a mystery. Apparently e was christened at > Claverley England in 1648. (If indeed it is the same amuel). Some of the > da tes for the birth of his children must be wrong in the enealogies when > you consider the above mentioned baptisms. I think Samuel and gnes were > married in England, and probably some of their children were born here. I > believe her to be English. He would have been 30 years old in 1678 hen he > is listed in Delaware records. I wish we could find a ship's record of exactly when he arrived in Delaware, but I feel sure he was here before > 682. He purchased land before that date. I think it is pretty well > stablished he did not come on the Welcome as some genealogies report> > I elieve Daniel's wife's name was Elizabeth Nicholas, or Nichols.> > I put out a essage a few years ago asking if anyone knew exactly where > Barkers Bridge as, and one response said it is under water today. About > ten years ago I was n the outskirts of Philadelphia , and I saw a > handpainted sign which said Barkers Bridge" with an arrow pointing away > from Philadelphia. I was in the ar with others and I didn't insist on > taking that road, but now I wish I ad.> > If Samuel was born in 1648 and died in 1720, he would have been 72 years ld > at death. This would be logical. He would have come to DE when he was > lose to 30 years old and that makes sense. So all we have to prove is the > amuel baptized in Claverely England and the Samuel that arrived in > Wilmington E are the same person. (That shouldn't be hard----yeah right) I > did read in ne of my many accounts of him that he was a man of > means------and it seems he Samuel Barker in Claverley was also. Perhaps > Samuel came to the colonies ecause he was a younger son and younger sons > did not inherit land in the 600's in England.> > Anyway my thoughts.> > If you find out anything new I ould sure like to hear of it. I will take > some time to carefully look through y materials and see if I find anything > else of significance.> > Janice> > > > Janice Shives> [email protected]> researching: Newman, Reddick, Barker, Farlow, ones, Richardson, > McDonald, Smiley, Pike, Hadley, Harmon, Coltrane, Clark, obbitt, Allen, > Scarlett, Lindley, Newlin, Reynolds, Brown, McConnel, Johnson, attin, > Davison and others.> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marilyn inton" <[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]>> Sent: Thursday, ebruary 05, 2009 2:20 PM> Subject: [Q-R] FW: Samuel Barker of Christiana undred, DE> > > > I hope this message will arrive correctly at Quaker-Roots his time, now I > am registered with my new e-mail!> > From: [email protected]: [email protected]: Samuel > Barker of hristiana Hundred, DEDate: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:51:07 -0600> > I read with nterest, Mr Standing's comments on the Christiana area of New > Castle Co., DE nd its early history. My Samuel Barker was buried 1705 I > think (perhaps 1707) t Old Swedes Church in Wilmington. As his sons and > families were all Quakers Daniel Bark er md. _____ Nichols or Nicholson), I > have always wondered why he as buried at Old Swedes Church. His wife's > name was Agnes, and I always ondered if she could have been Swedish. > Samuel Barker came to the colonies in 682, supposedly. He is thought by > many to be the same Samuel Barker as the ne baptised in Claverly, > Shropshire, England....but I have never seen any roof that this is one and > the same man.I have not been able to examine the onthly Meeting Records for > Center MM or Wilmington MM. Can anyone help, who erhaps has further > information on this early Samuel Barker? His land was upposed to be at > "Barker's Bridge" on Red Clay Creek.Many thanks,Marilyn L. inton> > Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. 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