I have found Google Books Online to be a great source of history. A person will find books on History of towns, people, you name it. I do searches on individuals and come up with a lot of references. If the book is listed as Full View it means you can download it in pdf format to your computer. Just make sure you have lots of free space on your computer. Although the book mentioned, "The History of Nantucket County, Island and Town including Genealogies of First Settlers" by Alexander Starbuck is not a Full View book it is mentioned and it lists other similar works. I found Genealogy of the Macy Family into which Shubael Swain married. I won't guarantee that's the one but I would suggest everyone take a look and do some searches on Google Books Online. There are a lot of genealogies on individuals if you take the time to do a search. You'll end up like me, and really get carried away. There are many books on Ancestry.com about Nantucket a person can access if they have a Ancestry.com subscription. I found one that contains the Vital Records of Nantucket up to the year 1850. Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Violet O. Guy" <[email protected]> To: "'Sue Maxwell'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [Q-R] Shubael Swain- Ebenezer and Lydia's will/NantucketHistorical Society > > Sue Maxwell: > > > > Try: > > "The History of Nantucket County, Island and Town including Genealaogies > of > First Settlers" by Alexander Starbuck. > Alexander Starbuck is also author of the "History of the American Whale > Fishery, etc." > (There are genealogies in my book; and includes those for the SWAIN > Family. > > > Contact: > Higginson Book Company > 148 Washington Street, Post Office Box 778 > Salem, Massachussetts 01970 > Phone 978/745-7170 > > www.higginsonbooks.com > > Remember that Nantucket is known for its whaling industry! Much of this > type of information may be found in this book; and here you will find such > information as "died at sea"! There are long lists of names of men or > specific vessels. > > Page 668: > "What maybe, perhaps not inaptly, termed the clannishness of the > descendents > of the First Purchasers, is illustrated by a title doggerel written by > some > one who had no fear of tribal displeasure nor any respect for the family > pride of those he lampoons. * > It appeared in two stanzas, published about 1834 and the irreverent writer > thus characheerized his victims: > > "The Rays and Russels, coopers are, > The knowing Folgers lazy, > A lying Coleman very rare, > An scarce a learned Hussey. > > > The Coffins noisey, fractious, loud. > The silent Gardens plodding, > The Mitchells good, the Barkers proud, > The Macys eat th pudding." > > As though that was not enough, some supper-reckless individ- > Ual added the following for good measure: > > "The Swains are swinish, clownish called, > The Barnards very civil, > The Starbucks they are loud to bawl, > Anc Pindhans beat tge devuk,"! > > > > In a large part of the ealy history if the Iskland the rule has > To follow the dates as shown by the Records. Those, after so > Large a number of the residents had become Friends, followed the > Custom of the Friends in using numerals to express months. > > **** > > Violet Moore Guy > [email protected] > 01/11/2009 > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sue Maxwell > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 1:21 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Q-R] Shubael Swain- Ebenezer and Lydia's will/ > NantucketHistorical > Society > > The Nantucket Hist Soc. won't talk to me about the subject anymore. They > have the Barney Collections and they insist it is absolutely correct. I > have > read those and the William Folger collections- both just say "died at sea" > and I don't know how that was determined. That is what is bugging me. > > > > Who are some of your Swains. Mine moved from Mass to NYC and one son to > Ohio. Shubael two known sons and daughter and has two unknown daughters. > The > knowns are Shubael Edgar ( my gg) Valentine, (moved to Ohio and his sons > moved out west) Sarah Anne, who lived in Brooklyn and married Isaac > Leggett. > SE, after marriage lived in Jersey City and was a prominent NYC lawyer. > His > son Edgar is my g grandfather and his daughter married William VanVorst, > but > died after childbirth. I am sure they had relatives in other states. My > grandmother, Eva Swain ( daughter of Edgar) was the first American girl to > be the premiere danseuse at the Met and was the youngest in the world. > There > are articles in her scrapbook from other states, so I am suspicious that > there were relatives around. I am co-authoring a book about her life and > the > ancestors will be the background for the book. That is why I want to crack > this brick wall, although it is not crucial. Isaac Leggett was a Quaker > but > must have changed as he and Sarah were married in a Methodist Church. His > twin brother remained Quaker, though- Abraham Leggett. Sue > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1886 - Release Date: 1/10/2009 6:01 PM

<http://genforum.genealogy.com/folger/messages/3.html> http://genforum.genealogy.com/folger/messages/3.html   Abiah was the yougest child of Nantucket co-founder Peter Folger. Here's what I have on them: FOLGER NOTES Peter Folger (1617/18 - 1690) was the only known son of John Folger (ca. 1590/95 - 1664/65), of Flemish decent, who was the first to bear the surname in America.1,2 He was born in England and arrived at age 18 in Massachusetts from Norwich, County Norfolk, England, in 1635 on the ship Abigail with his father and his mother Meribah (also Merible, Meribell, Myrable) Gibbs Folger (d.> 1664).1,3 John Folger was from the village of Diss, about 20 miles from Norwich, and Meribah Gibbs was from nearby Freyn. She was the daughter of yeoman John Gibbs. The family moved first to Dedham, then Watertown, then to Martha's Vineyard, before finally settling in Nantucket. Peter had two sisters, Ruth and Joanna.1 In 1642, John Folger and his family were living in Watertown and owned six acres of land.4 In the same year, they accompanied Rev. Thomas Mayhew, Jr. to Martha's Vineyard, were they bought a house and land. John Folger died about 1660. His wife Meribell was still living in 1664.4 Peter Folger (who spelled his name "ffoulger") married Mary Morrill of Salem in 1644.1,2 She was an indentured servant in the household of Rev. Hugh Peters (who came to America in the same ship as the Folgers). It is said that he paid her service debt of 20£ to Rev. Peters to secure her freedom.7 Peter Folger was a deciphel of Puritan Thomas Mayhew, Jr., following him to Martha's Vineyard, where he served as Mayhew's accountant and general overseer.2 Peter Folger was a preacher, surveyor, miller, and blacksmith.3 While living on Martha's Vineyard, he became a prominent citizen of Edgartown, serving as a town commissioner and schoolmaster. He was also employed by the Commissioners of the United Colonies to teach English and Christianity to Indian children.5 He was a staunch Anabaptist (now Baptist). At a meeting of the proprietors of Nantucket Island held in Salisbury in late 1660, Peter was chosen as one of five men to lay out the land, which was to be purchased from Mayhew.4 The previous year, he had accompanied Tristram Coffin and others to Nantucket to view the potential purchase.4 Peter surveyed the Island during 1661-1662, and on 4 July 1663 was granted half a share. He moved his home to Nantucket in 1663, and there, as he did on Martha's Vineyard, Peter Folger served as an interpreter between the Indians and the English. On 21 July 1673, he was elected clerk of the courts in Nantucket.4,5 He died in 1690 and his widow died in 1704.4 Peter and his wife had at least nine children, all but the youngest born on Martha's Vineyard.1,3,4,6 They were: Joanna, m. John Coleman, son of Thomas; Bethiah (d. 6 June 1669), m. 26 Feb. 1668 John Barnard (d. 6 June 1669), son of Robert - both drowned; Dorcas, m. 12 Feb. 1675 Joseph Pratt of Charlestown; Eleazur (1648-1716), m. 1671 Sarah Gardner, daughter of Richard and Sarah, Bathshua, m. Joseph Pope, son of Joseph of Salem; Patience, m. Ebenezer Harker; John (b. 1659), m. Mary Barnard, daughter of Nathaniel Barnard; Experience, m. John Swain, Jr.; and Abiah (15 Aug. 1667- 1752), m. ca. 1690 Josiah Franklin of Boston (23 Dec. 1657 - 16 Jan. 1744/5, emigrated to England ca. 1685 - Abiah was his second wife). On November 25, 1689, Abiah Folger, who was an aunt of Ebenezer Harker, became the second wife of Josiah Franklin (1652 - 1745) of Boston. Josiah was the son of Thomas Franklin and Jane White, and had been previously married to Anne Child (in ca. 1675).6 One of the children of Josiah and Abiah was Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790), who became our famous American statesman.1,2 An historical marker stands on Nantucket Island today. It reads: This Tablet is Erected by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts in Commemoration of Abiah Folger Franklin Daughter of Peter Folger Wife of Josiah Franklin and Mother of Benjamin Franklin. She was Born August 15, 1667, in a House Which Stood 225 Feet North Fifty-two Degrees West from this Spot and Died in Boston in 1752.2 Abiah Folger and Josiah Franklin had issue4: John (b. 7 Dec. 1690), m. Gooch — one son, lost at sea; Peter (22 Nov. 1692 - 1 Jul. 1766), m. Mary , no issue; Mary (b. 26 Sept. 1694), m. Robert Homes, two children; James (4 Feb. 1696 - Feb. 1735), m. Anne (d. 19 Apr. 1763), four children; Sarah (9 Jan. 1699 - 23 May 1733), m. Joseph Davenport, children; Ebenezer (b. 20 Feb. 1701), drown as child; Thomas (b. 7 Dec. 1703, died young; Benjamin (6 Jan. 1706 - 17 Apr. 1790), m. 1 Sept. 1701 Deborah Read (d. 19 Dec. 1774); Lydia (b. 8 Aug. 1708), m. 1731 Robert Scott; and Jane (27 March 1712 - 1795), m. 27 Jul. 1727Edward Mecom. REFERENCES 1. James E. Banks, The History of Martha's Vineyard, Vol. III, Dukes County Historical Society, Edgartown, Mass., 1966. 2. Florence B. Anderson, A Grandfather for Benjamin Franklin, Meador Publishing Co., Boston, Mass., 1940. 3. New England Historic Genealogical Society, Vital Records of Nantucket, Massachusetts to the Year 1850, Boston, 1926, Vols. I and V. 4. William C. Folger, "The Folger Family," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, Vol. XVI, New England Historic-Genealogical Society, Albany, NY, 1862, pp. 269-279. 5. Henry B. Worth, Nantucket Lands and Land Owners, Heritage Books, Bowie, Maryland, 1992. 6. James Savage, A Genealogical Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England, Vol. II, 1860 (Republished by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, Maryland, 1994). 7. Thelma P. Simpson and Rebecca W. Sanders, ‘Kith and Kin' of Eastern Carteret County, Carteret County Historicl Society, Morehead City, N.C., 1983.