In a message dated 1/21/09 10:50:44 PM, [email protected] writes: > I can not help you locate Pauline Waite Harper, but I have information > about Hope Clifton and Christopher Holder.    --  S. Newton > >    Christopher Holder (1631-1688, born and buried near Bristol), has been > described as “high-born” and “highly educated” with “abundant means” and “ > kinsmen high in the church”. At 25, in 1656, he arrived in Boston with a group > intent upon introducing Quakerism in America. The whole group was > sent back to England immediately. He returned to America the next year with > a Quaker party which succeeded in launching the American mission. He is > credited with organizing the first Quaker meeting in America, in Christopher’s > Hollow, near Sandwich on Cape Cod, and he preached from New England to > Maryland.  The Boston authorities jailed him several times for not obeying their > anti-Quaker laws and in 1658 cut off one of his ears.  He may have helped finance > both the 1657 expedition and the 1661 chartered voyage which carried back the > king’s order that Boston must stop hanging Quakers. He crossed the ocean a > number of times, but during the 1660s and 1670s was a resident of Newport > RI.   He married: >    1)  Mary Scott  (m. 1660 in Eng., d.1664/5 in RI), daughter of Quaker > Catherine Marbury Scott of Providence RI and niece of the better-known Anne > Marbury Hutchinson. Mary’s daughter Mary (1661-1737) marr. Peleg Slocum from > Portsmouth in 1680, and raised a large family in Dartmouth, not far from Newport > but in MA.  >    According to the RI MM register of births, a daughter Elizabeth was born > to Christopher and Mary in 11 mo. 1664/5, at or close to the time of Mary’s > death.  Elizabeth (d.c.1715) marr. John Alloway in Eng. and settled there. >    2)  Hope Clifton (m. Dec. 1665; d.1680/1 in RI) was part of a group of > Quakers, including Mary Dyer, who were jailed in Boston for protesting the 1658 > ear mutilations and banished upon their release.   >    From the RI MM births register:  these children were born to Christopher > and Hope in Newport:  Christopher (b.10 mo. 1666);  Hope (b. 1 mo. 1668);  > Patience (b. 12 mo. 1668);  Content (b. 3mo. 1674);  Ann (b.12 mo. 1775).   >    The deaths register reported Hope’s death at Newport in 11 mo. 1680 and > listed the deaths of 4 of her children:  John (d. 6 mo. 1672); Ann (d. 1 mo. > 1676); Patience and Content (d. 6 mo. 1676).   Hope was buried in the burial > ground donated by her father, Thomas Clifton, who drowned in 5 mo. 1681 while “ > washing”, age 75.  Mary d. as the widow of Thomas in 11 mo. 1686/7 at about > 87. (The Clifton Burying Ground was at the corner of Thomas and Golden Hill > Streets, according to an article in the Newport Historical Soc. Bull. 12/1913, > no.10, pp.38-9).  Christopher was in England when Hope died and the Meeting > had to find homes for her two surviving children. Christopher’s widow in > England is said to have remembered Hope’s descendants in her will. >    From wedding certificates (marriage register):  Thomas and Hope signed > the wedding certificate for the 1672 Mary Gould/Joseph Bryar wedding at Wm. > Coddington’s house in Newport, an event attended by George Fox and mentioned in > his Journal.  Christopher and Hope signed the wedding certificates for the > weddings of Matthew Borden of Portsmouth to Sarah Clayton of Newport in 1st mo. > 1673/4, and of Ralph Cowland of Portsmouth to Joan Hide, “late of London”, > in 4 mo. 1677. Thomas Clifton signed the certificate at the Walter > Newberry/Ann Collins wedding on 13 April 1675. >    Thomas Clifton became a Quaker at Rehoboth MA before he moved to Newport, > and like other RI Quakers, bought land at Monmouth NJ in 1667.  (Edwin > Salter, History of Monmouth and Ocean Counties, 1890). >    3)  Grace Lawrence/Laurence Beaton, an English Quaker who outlived Holder > (m.1682 in Eng., her 2nd marriage, his 3rd). >   >    Some sources:  > Besse’s record of the Sufferings of early Quakers, see both >      English and American sections; > Early records of Rhode Island Monthly Meeting at the Newport >      Historical Society; > Charles F. Holder’s history: The Quakers in Great Britain >      and America (NY, Neuner, 1913, 423p.); > Austin’s Genealogical Dictionary of R. Is.  > -  -  -  -  -  > > In response to: > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 > From: MMNA through gmail <[email protected]> > Subject: [Q-R] FW: [Hope CLIFTON, Christopher HOLDER] > To: "Quaker-Roots list" <[email protected]> > > Quaker-Roots list,      I received the attached message forwarded from > www.QuakerMeetings.com, but the website no longer provides the Contact's > e-mail address as it forwards queries.  (1) Do any of you know how I can > reach Pauline Waite Harper?  (2) Do you know anything to help her?  Of > course, if she told me the geographical location of the couple and date of > marriage, I would suggest the location of possibly-helpful records but I do > no people genealogy.     Tom Hill > > Thomas C. Hill > Cincinnati, OH and > Charlottesville, VA > [email protected] > Website: WWW.QuakerMeetings.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, 20 January 2009 > To: [email protected] > > Hi, My grandmother Mary Clifton, daughter of Thomas and Mary Butterworth > Clifton, was a sister to Hope Clifton who married Christopher Holder. I > understand from my readings that Christopher was a strong Quaker follower, > and I believe more of my ancestors followed him.  Can you recommend sources > to find the earliest of Quaker Records in America? Thank You, Pauline Waite > Harper. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > Thanks for reminding me where I had read about Christopher Holder. I highly suggest reading the book "Mary Dyer, A Rebel Quaker" by Ruth Plimpton. Chapter 19 of this wonderful book is entitled Christopher Holder. The book also has wonderful information about Mary Dyer meeting and visiting Margaret Fell, The mother of Quakerism. The historical record about Boston and the backgroud on the charter of Rhode Island and the influence of the Quakers is also very good. Mary was hung by the Congregational Bostonites and her statue today is in the "Boston Commons". Howard W Cook ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgI D=62%26bcd=DecemailfooterNO62)