At 02:31 PM 1/29/2009, [email protected] wrote: >Robert Burns, > >On 1/25/2009 your e-mail contained the query as to whether your >French-speaking ancestors Michael Johannes Rudulph an his wife Anna >(princess, ward, and half-niece of the father of Frederic the Great) >from Prussia were members of Friends. They settled early near >Wilmington, Delaware on Christiana Creek, now New Castle, DE, >included in Christiana Hundred. > >I cannot find any trace of this couple in the records which I have >at hand. I am not well acquainted with Prussian history. I believe >that Frederick William I, father of Frederick the Greet, flourished >ca. 1700-1740. I believe that Frederick the Great relished the >French culture, although his father evidently did not. Yes, and my recollection (probably from The Rudulph Family book) is that father hated son's spelling "Frederic". I understand that Michael & Anna spoke French in the Scotch-Irish enclave. > I have no genealogy at hand to show the particular relationship of > Frederic the Great with the princess Anna. > >Christiana Hundred is in northern New Castle County, DE, along the >circular border with Pennsylvania. It includes the present town of >Centerville. Some of Christiana Hundred is very hilly, with the >lower Brandywine Creek, a tumultuous stream, rushing across it on >the way to Wilmington. In early Colonial times, I believe that >there were flour mills along its banks. After 1800 the Du Pont >ammunition works were established there and the Gilpin family had a paper mill. > >The first Quaker settlers settled in Christiana Hundred ca. >1686. Within a very few years they had established Centre Meeting >and had built a meetinghouse. The present meetinghouse, built about >1794, is about a mile southeast of Centerville. The first settlers, >including George Harlan and William Gregg, tended to come from >Ireland, being of English or Scottish heritage. Centre Meeting was a >Preparative Meeting of Newark Monthly Meeting, which was established >ca. 1686 and for its early history consisted of Newark Meeting in >Brandywine Hundred, New Castle Meeting at New Castle, Centre Meeting >in Christiana Hundred, and Kennett Meeting, established ca. 1700, >across the Delaware/Pennsylvania border in present-day Kennett >Township, Chester County, PA. Wilmington Preparative Meeting was >established by Newark Monthly Meeting in 1638 and was set off, along >with New Castle Preparative Meeting, as Wilmington Monthly Meeting in 1750. > >W hen I set about to abstract records of Wilmington MM and its >anticedent Meetings, I did not abstract many of the records of >Newark MM after 1738. I seem to have no Rudulph names in my >abstracted work. In my Wilmington MM records for 1738 to 1827, I >have only recorded a Mary Rudolph who was received as a member of >Wilmington MM from Darby MM, PA, on 12mo. 13, 1797. She was granted >a certificate from Wilmington MM to Philadelphia MM, Southern >District, on 8 mo. 6, 1801. That would have been towards the end of Michael & Anna. Michael died in 1741 and Anna is said to have soon after relocated to Paris for about 20 years. However, their eldest son Johannes Rudulph >a.k.a. "John of Darby" is another matter. The book says: >John Rudulph married, Jan. 20, 1740, Mary Bonsall, a Friend, the >dau. of Jacof and Martha (H00d) Bonsall of Darby Township. Mary >Bonsall was born Aug. 13, 1719 and died Mar. 16, 1795. (MSS. >Pedigress, Vol. 2077:5, Gen. Soc. of Phila.) > >[]John Rudulph died Dec. 10, 1768, intestate. Letters of >Administration were granted, Dec. 26, 1768, to his widow, Mary >(Bonsall) Rudulph, and to Jesse Bonsall of Darby Twp. (Adm. Book B, >page 203, Chester Co., Penna.) Jacob Hiltzheimer, of Phila., states >in his Diary that on Dec. 12, 1768, ["]Went to Darby to funeral of >John Rudulph. Israel Morris, Samuel Nichols, Joseph Jones and >myself carried the corpse to the Friends Ground[']. (Penna. Mag., >Vol. 16, page 94) After the death of John Rudulph, his widow, Mary >B. Rudulph, continued to operate Ble Ball Tavern. > >[]The final distribution of the estate of John Rudulph was made on >Sept. 20, 1774, his widow Mary receiving 1/3; 1/3 to his son Joseph >and 1/3 to be divided between his other four children: Jacob, Ann, >John, and Hannah. > >[]Note: The ame appears more often as Rudulph than Rudolph in >CHester County records. The descendants of John Rudulph, however, >were the first to accept the Rudolph spelling. I also see that Jacob Rudulph, son of Michael & Anna: >m. second, ca. 1769, Mrs. Frances (Jacob) Broom, daughter of Thomas >Jacob by his second wife Mrs. Anne (Land) Mankin, members of >Nottingham Monthly Meeting, Cecil County, Md. Thomas Jacob married >Mrs. Anne (Land) Mankin, dau. of Francis and Christina (Hill) Land, >at Newark Monthly Meeting 9 Mo., 1733. (Mottingham Monthly Meeting >Records, Vol. 1, page 48) And, I see that Frances "was a younger sister of Susan Jacob who had married Tobias Rudulph." Tobias was another son of Michael & Anna. There's more in the book. So, it seems that either the Rudulph sons were Quakers by upbringing or by marriage. >The town of Wilmington, first laid out as "Willingtown", in 1728, >did not really take off as a thriving port city until the first >Quakers arrived on the scene in 1735-1736. > >The early Society of Friends was primarily an Anglo-Saxon >phenomenon. In the later 1600's there was a campaign to convert >Mennonites and other like minded residents of the Netherlands and >the nearby German Palatinate to Quakerism, but it was not very >successful. I don't believe there was much Quaker missionary >activity in Prussia. A few German Quaker familjies immigrated to >Germantown near Philadelphia from the Palatinate. > >I do not think there was much Quaker missionary activity in the late >1600's in France. However, in the years following 1600, a number of >French Protestants (Huguenots) were forced to flee from France to >England, and it seems a number of these exiled Huguenots joined the >Quaker movement in the years following 1652. Perhaps your Rudulph >ancestors were among these Huguenots. > >I have scanned your contributions to the Quaker-Roots web site over >the past few years in order to try to comprehend what your wider >quest might be. There seems to be some reference to the Mankin >family. In early Delaware the Swedes organized a Swedish Lutheran >church on the Delaware River called Holy Trinity, commonly called >"Old Swedes". A 1699 church building of "Old Swedes" is still >maintained today within ht Wilmington city limits.. When the Dutch >took control of Delaware, I suppose Old Swedes became a Dutch >Reformed Church, and when the English gained control ca. 1665, Old >Swedes became an Anglican church. The pastors at Old Swedes, in >Colonial times, liked to believe that they were presiding over the >established church of the Colony. They particularly liked to lord >it over the dissident Quakers, who had little regard for them. In >1707 a local citizen named Richard Mankin died, and the resident >priest at Old Swedes took charge of the burial. However, two >Quakers, George Robinson and Cornelius Empson, showed up at Old >Swedes and contested the right of the priest to be in charge of this >particular burial.. Probably George Robinson was in some way >related to Richard Mankin. George Robinson had come from northern >Ireland and had married Catherine Hollingwsorth, daughter of >Valentine Hollingsworth in 1688 after the Hollingsworth family had >put him on probation for a year or two to see whether he was worthy >to marry Catherine. Cornelius Empson, something of an entrepreneur, >had come to Delaware from Yorkshire in England. > >You mention some kind of relationship of the Rudulph family to the >Warner family. Members of the Warner family had been members of >Wilmington Meeting from as early as 1738. Joseph Warner, a >silversmith, died in 1800 > >Some researchers of the Rudulph family seem to mention the Large, >Dungan, and Latham families. I happen to be a descendant of these >families as well as of the Hollingsworths. The Large and Dungan >families to whom I am related settled in Bucks County, PA. I do not recall the Large, Dungan, and Latham families beyond a dear friend Robert Latham of San Diego County who died a number of years ago of throat cancer. I have been quite impressed with the Hollingsworths, though, coming across them in my research of my Murray ancestry. My primary interest continues to be my ancestor John Murray, and my mother's primary interest is Princess Anna Rudulph. John Murray's daughter Abigail married Zebulon Rudulph, a descendant of Michael & Anna. There are several generations of intermarriage and business between the Murrays, Rudulphs, Syngs, and Hollingsworths. We can address that in greater detail. In great frustration, I have yet to ascertain John Murray's parents or many other aspects of his life before he married Elizabeth Syng in Philadelphia in 1772. >I'm afraid that I cannot help you very much in your quest for your >Rudulph ancestors. Thanks. You did help me to realize the documented relationship of the Rudulphs and the Friends. > > ----- Herbert Standing, Earlham, Iowa. > >---------- > From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in between, stay > up-to-date with the <http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000023>latest news. Robert Burns 4877 Voltaire Street P.O.B. 7263 Ocean Beach (San Diego), CA U.S.A. 92167 (619) 223-0441 (voice) (847) 557-1220 (e-Fax) If you do not have eFax Messenger or an eFax Microviewer installed on your PC, download a free copy at http://www.efax.com/en/efax/twa/page/download E-Mail: <[email protected]> TM URL: http://www.OBLaw.com TM http://www.RobertBurns.biz