Sue, I went to books.google.com and searched for <"ebenezer swain" nantucket> and found a citation on page 390 of /Nantucket Lands and Landowners/ by Henry Barnard Worth. It gives an extract of Ebenezer Swain's 1813 will. Names wife Lydia, children Ebenezer and Phebe, and grandchildren Stephen and Mary West. So it would appear that in 1813, the father of this family did not believe his son Shubael was alive, or that he had any surviving children to take their father's share of the estate. -- Dan Treadway Dan- While that sounds convincing and a bit discouraging, it could also mean that the other's were married, who hadn't died- what do you think? If your thoughts are right then I am back at the very beginning with this man and will have to rely on the suggestions at the workshop,, but if he didn't die at sea, or was rescued and that was not recorded, then he might be one in the same. Mine married about 1779, so that would mean he was already making money and supporting a family. Perhaps the others were not married. Yet, in 1806, and Ebenezer Swain and small family move into my Shubael's home and Shubael moves his family to a different place. So you could be right. This is a really hard brick wall. Thank you so much for looking that up- I will get a copy of that. Sue