Oh, religious tolerance exists, but it had to be created. Disproportionately, it was the Quakers who created this tolerance. Madison famously observed that religious liberty was a product of our "multiplicity of sects," i.e., many different religions. In such an environment, the only way to protect your own liberty is to protect everyone's liberty. That was the system pioneered by the Quakers in Pennsylvania. Incidentally, the fellow who carried Charles II's order to Boston was Samuel Shattuck, my 10th-great uncle. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Burns" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Q-R] QUAKER-ROOTS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 26 > So much for the myth of religious tolerance in the Americas. > > At 12:01 AM 1/22/2009, you wrote: >> > ?? Christopher Holder (1631-1688, born and buried near Bristol), has >> > been >> > described as ?high-born? and ?highly educated? with ?abundant means? >> > and ? >> > kinsmen high in the church?. At 25, in 1656, he arrived in Boston >> with a group >> > intent upon introducing Quakerism in America. The whole group was >> > sent back to England immediately. He returned to America the next >> year with >> > a Quaker party which succeeded in launching the American mission. He is >> > credited with organizing the first Quaker meeting in America, in >> Christopher?s >> > Hollow, near Sandwich on Cape Cod, and he preached from New England to >> > Maryland.? The Boston authorities jailed him several times for >> not obeying their >> > anti-Quaker laws and in 1658 cut off one of his ears.? He may >> have helped finance >> > both the 1657 expedition and the 1661 chartered voyage which >> carried back the >> > king?s order that Boston must stop hanging Quakers > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Robert Burns, Attorney & Counselor at Law > California Bar Assn. No. 91489 > 4877 Voltaire Street > P.O.B. 7263 > Ocean Beach (San Diego), CA U.S.A. 92167 > (619) 223-0441 (voice) > (847) 557-1220 (e-Fax) > If you do not have eFax Messenger or an eFax Microviewer installed on your > PC, > download a free copy at http://www.efax.com/en/efax/twa/page/download > > > E-Mail: <[email protected]> TM > URL: <http://www.oblaw.com/>http://www.OBLaw.com TM > http://www.RobertBurns.biz > > Over 28 years practicing law. > > Family Law, Personal Injury Law, Probate Law, and More > Major credit cards accepted. > > The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally > privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not > the intended recipient please delete. > > As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that > all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community > are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope > ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and > liberality. George Washington. > > Without Freedom of Thought, there can be no such Thing as Wisdom; and > no such Thing as publick Liberty, without Freedom of Speech. > Benjamin Franklin > > Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbors to compromise > whenever you can. Point out to them how the nominal winner is often > a real loser--in fees, expenses, and waste of time ... Never stir up > litigation. A worse man can scarcely be found than one who does > this. Abraham Lincoln. > > The SDCBA Attorney Code of Conduct can be found > at: http://www.sdcba.org/codeofconduct.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mark; And your Samuel Shattuck was along with my 8th great grandfather, Nicholas Phelps! Perley claimed "they returned together [Samuel Shattuck and Nicholas Phelps], but Mr. Phelps, being weak in body after some time died." [George Fox, The Journal of George Fox, (rev. ed.) John L. Nickalls (Cambridge: At the University Press, 1952) pp. 411-5; Jones, Quakers in America, p. 94; Perley, History of Salem, p. 257, 268-70.] We know that Nicholas and Hannah were together in Salem when at the Quarterly Court of June 1662, "Nicholas Phelpes and his wife . . . were presented for frequent absence from meeting on the Sabbath Day." Hannah was fined alone in 1663. [Dow and Thresher, Quarterly Courts of Essex, 2:431-2. Chu, Neighbors, p. 170. Dr. Chu has compiled tables of the "Adult Quakers in Salem, 1658-70" and the fines assessed for those years.] Gwen Boyer Bjorkman, "Hannah (Baskel) Phelps Phelps Hill: A Quaker Woman and Her Offspring," National Genealogical Society Quarterly, 75 (December 1987), pp. 289-302. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/2995/hannah.htm Gwen Boyer Bjorkman [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Mark E. Dixon Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Q-R] QUAKER-ROOTS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 26 Oh, religious tolerance exists, but it had to be created. Disproportionately, it was the Quakers who created this tolerance. Madison famously observed that religious liberty was a product of our "multiplicity of sects," i.e., many different religions. In such an environment, the only way to protect your own liberty is to protect everyone's liberty. That was the system pioneered by the Quakers in Pennsylvania. Incidentally, the fellow who carried Charles II's order to Boston was Samuel Shattuck, my 10th-great uncle. Mark