> There are many quakers already established in the dar ( I have 4) that > qualified me. They weren't as neutral as believed. Perhaps, but the "bar" required to be a DAR "patriot ancestor" is low. One criteria for an ancestor to be considered a patriot is whether he took the oath of allegiance. But the oath was required, and refusal to take it was punishable by a variety of penalties -- including confiscation of one's entire estate. Some Quakers did lose their entire estates for this reason. We call their descendants "Canadians." If you find an ancestor on the DAR's rolls, consider asking, "Did he believe in the Revolution?" or "Did he just want those pesky Founding Dads to go away and leave him alone so he could farm in peace?" For many, it was a go-along-to-get-along decision. Mark