Dale: i have some Newlins in my ancestry- back to Nicholas (1620-1699) m to Elizabeth Paggott. would be happy to share whatever i have however i lost them at Jane (1715-1798)who married a Sharples. this particular line goes down thru Talbot to East to Pipher (me). I've not really researched them however there is a book- Genealogy of the Sharpless Family, Descended from John and Jane Sharples, Settlers Near Chester, Pennsylvania,  published 1887 which references Nicholas Newlin--this shows his certificate with Friends dated 12 mo. 25, 1682.....on page 171 --it also states where he emigrated from and to .... i found this info thru Ancestry---   does this give you anything??????? margo      On Tue, 4/3/12, Dale Harguess <daleharguess4@gmail.com> wrote: From: Dale Harguess <daleharguess4@gmail.com> Subject: [Q-R] Newlin family To: "QUAKER-ROOTS" <QUAKER-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2012, 11:50 AM Here I am again asking for help.  I notice that I have several Newlin's who married into the family in many different generations.  Starting in the late 1700s up until the late 1800's.  I can't seem to connect them although they were all Quakers and it is not a very common name so I think that they must be connected. Does anyone out there know anything about this family? Thanks, Dale in California ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUAKER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here I am again asking for help. I notice that I have several Newlin's who married into the family in many different generations. Starting in the late 1700s up until the late 1800's. I can't seem to connect them although they were all Quakers and it is not a very common name so I think that they must be connected. Does anyone out there know anything about this family? Thanks, Dale in California

I've been trying to sort out some references as to "burial at Tyger River Burial Grounds" in both the Bush River and Cane Creek SC Meeting notes, as per Hinshaw. From these notes from Medlin and William, below, I'm not sure I can say anything definitive. Your thoughts and input are appreciated. *********************************** Medlin's Quakers in South Carolina Friends Meetings in South Carolina 1675 - 1981 pp 35 -36 BUSH RIVER: Largest Meeting in South Carolina, with its own Monthly Meeting from 1770 until 1822, and its own Quarterly Meeting for a much briefer time. Meetings for Worship were still held here with some regularity until around 1856. CANE CREEK: Also called Tyger River. Located near Cane Creek in Union County. Had its own Monthly Meeting from 1789 until about 1808, with jurisdiction over Friends in Union, Spartanburg, Chester, and York Counties. (The Meeting for Worship was established in 1775, under Bush River MM originally.) Most of the members of the Meeting moved to Miami, Ohio, and established Caesar's Creek MM there, continuing to use the same Minute Book from SC. LOWER MEETING: The minutes of Cane Creek Monthly Meeting in 1801 mention the appointment of an overseer for "the Lower Meeting of Padget's Creek. [sic, quote is unclosed] The existence of two graveyards for Friends on this creek would seem to indicate that this was a separate meeting for worship, rather than a designation of Padget's Creek of being "lower" geographically or organizationally than Cane Creek. PADGET'S CREEK: Also know as Tyger River, this Meeting was established in 1774 under Bush River Monthly Meeting and after 1789 reported to Cane Creek. Worship probably continued here after 1820. It was located in Union County near Sedalia, and at some point before 1801 was divided into two meetings for worship. (See LOWER) Members here moved in large numbers to Miami, Ohio, to form the Caesar's Creek Monthly Meeting there in the early 1800's [sic], and the remaining members were transferred on paper to New Garden Monthly Meeting in North Carolina in 1809. ************* And here is a passage shared by Thomas Hamm: ..........from the Journal of the Life, Travels, and Gospel Labours of William Williams (1828) may be helpful. They are for 9th Mo. 1804, traveling in South Carolina. 9-16: At Bush River 9-17: "Had a meeting at the Rocky Spring, wherein I was enabled to labour to the peace of my mind. Lodged again with our aforesaid friend [Enoch Pearson], who was our pilot and feeling companion to Tiger River, next day." 9-19: "Had a meeting at the lower meeting house on Paget's Creek." "The three following days we attended, in succession, Cane Creek Preparative Meeting, the upper meeting on Paget's Creek, and the Cane Creek Monthly Meeting."

The mystery is solved, thanks to Stewart Baldwin, who said it was "acompt", an archaic word and spelling for "account." I never would have thought the letter after "a" was a "c." Once you Google "year of Christian account," you can see what the phrase means. Thank you, Stewart! Thank you to the others who asked for a copy of the document so they could see if they could help me. This mailing list is one of my favorites. *Katherine Benbow * On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Katherine Benbow <benbow.family@gmail.com>wrote: > I am going back and looking at some documents, and one of them is a Quaker > will, which disproves the "rule" about "In the name of God, amen." The > will starts with that phrase and then goes on to say "The 20th day of the > 2nd month in the year of Christian _____ 1713..." The will was by a > wealthy merchant who was a member of a Quaker family in early Philadelphia. > > I am trying to figure out what the word after "Christian" is. It looks > like "atoinpt" but could be "atompt". The "t" doesn't look like an > old-fashioned court "s," but it's a little unlike the other "s" and "t" > letters in the rest of the document, perhaps because it's under the > beginning phrase written in capital letters, and it may be compacted a bit > because of that. > > I am wondering if it's an abbreviated "atonement." but it doesn't look > like there's an "e" after the "n" or "m". Is there a familiar or known > phrase in old Quaker or court documents that would help me decipher this > word? > > If someone wants me to email the cropped image to them, I can do that. I > don't think I can attach files to emails which go through this list. > > *Katherine Benbow > > * >

Katherine Benbow <benbow.family@gmail.com> wrote: >I am going back and looking at some documents, and one of them is a Quaker >will, which disproves the "rule" about "In the name of God, amen." The >will starts with that phrase and then goes on to say "The 20th day of the >2nd month in the year of Christian _____ 1713..." The will was by a >wealthy merchant who was a member of a Quaker family in early Philadelphia. > >I am trying to figure out what the word after "Christian" is. It looks >like "atoinpt" but could be "atompt". The "t" doesn't look like an >old-fashioned court "s," but it's a little unlike the other "s" and "t" >letters in the rest of the document, perhaps because it's under the >beginning phrase written in capital letters, and it may be compacted a bit >because of that. It is hard to tell without looking at the actual record, but my guess would be "acompt" (an old version of the word "account"). Stewart Baldwin

I am going back and looking at some documents, and one of them is a Quaker will, which disproves the "rule" about "In the name of God, amen." The will starts with that phrase and then goes on to say "The 20th day of the 2nd month in the year of Christian _____ 1713..." The will was by a wealthy merchant who was a member of a Quaker family in early Philadelphia. I am trying to figure out what the word after "Christian" is. It looks like "atoinpt" but could be "atompt". The "t" doesn't look like an old-fashioned court "s," but it's a little unlike the other "s" and "t" letters in the rest of the document, perhaps because it's under the beginning phrase written in capital letters, and it may be compacted a bit because of that. I am wondering if it's an abbreviated "atonement." but it doesn't look like there's an "e" after the "n" or "m". Is there a familiar or known phrase in old Quaker or court documents that would help me decipher this word? If someone wants me to email the cropped image to them, I can do that. I don't think I can attach files to emails which go through this list. *Katherine Benbow *

Simeon is well documented. I am descended from his son John Taylor (ca 1745-1807). Simeon was the son of Thomas and Rachel (Minshall) Taylor and grandson of Thomas and Frances (Yardley) Taylor and John and Rachel Minshall. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Harguess" <daleharguess4@gmail.com> To: "QUAKER-ROOTS" <QUAKER-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 6:07:17 PM Subject: [Q-R] Another very long shot This group has been so helpful to me and I hope you don't get fed up with all my questions. I am wondering if anyone knows anything about a Simeon Taylor who was born ca 1704 don't know where and who married an Esther Dicks the daughter of Nathan/Natanial Dicks and Deborah Clark. They had a daughter named Rachel Taylor b. ca 1735 Thanks again for all of your help. Dale in California ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUAKER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This group has been so helpful to me and I hope you don't get fed up with all my questions. I am wondering if anyone knows anything about a Simeon Taylor who was born ca 1704 don't know where and who married an Esther Dicks the daughter of Nathan/Natanial Dicks and Deborah Clark. They had a daughter named Rachel Taylor b. ca 1735 Thanks again for all of your help. Dale in California

One correction. Guilford County did not exist in 1765. It started administration of its territory on 1 April 1771. The western 2/3 of it came from Rowan County, and the eastern 1/3 of it came from Orange County. So you would need to figure out where the family was living, through deeds or other records, to determine which county was their actual residence at the time. Just as a note in general: Few babies would have been born at a MM, and few people would have died there, so that's the source for the record, but not the place of birth. One needs to remember the difference between attendance at preparatory meetings vs. the MM's records. My husband's family had one person whose data was recorded in Cane Creek MM (NC), but who was in the census and deeds of Cumberland County, far to the south. You can deal with the issue of current location in various ways, including listing the county that had jurisdiction at the time and then add "now Guilford." *Katherine Benbow* * * *NCGenWeb Western Piedmont Regional Coordinator* * * On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Michael Wells <ufomike@gmail.com> wrote: > 18 May 1765, Guilford, NC. Phoebe is my 2nd cousin, 5x removed. :) > > -Mike > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Dale Harguess <daleharguess4@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > Here we go with another longshot. I am trying to find out the birthdate > > and place of a Samuel Ozbun who married a Phebe Hodgson on 29 Apr 1790 in > > North Carolina. His parents were Samuel Ozbun and Elizabeth Lamb and her > > parents were George Hodgson and Rachel Christy Oldham. > > They had 6 children: Ruth Ozbun b. 26 Feb 1791 NC, Abner Ozbun b. 18 Jul > > 1792 NC, Elizabeth Ozbun b. 13 Feb 1794 NC, Rachel Ozbun b. 30 Jun 1796 > NC, > > William Ozbun b. 17 Nov 1798 NC and Jesse Ozbun b. 13 Jan 1801 NC. I > only > > have a spouse for Jesse Ozbun a Nancy Brown. > > I would like to have the names of the spouses of the other children if > > possible. > > Thanks, > > Dale in California > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > QUAKER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUAKER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The following is from the obituary for Josiah Bozarth who died 1873 in Southhampton Twp Burlington New Jersey. "Thyself and family are respectfully invited to attend the funeral of Josiah Bozarth [1805-1873] from his late residence, near Burr's Mill on fifth day, the 23rd instant at 10 o'clock. 1 month 20th 1873." There are no records indicating he was Quaker. However, the language and dating make it seem possible. Could his wife, Barbara Asay, (1814-1894) have been Quaker. All that is known of her is she is buried in a Methodist Cemetery in Pemberton Burlington NJ. Does Asay sound familiar to anyone? Thanks Suzanne

Ruth m. Gravner Green on 23 Nov 1809 in Guilford, NC William . Keziah Harvey (b. Abt. 1802 in Guildord), date unknown Jesse m. Nancy Brown (b. Abt 1805 in Guilford), date unknown No data on the other kids. -Mike On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Dale Harguess <daleharguess4@gmail.com>wrote: > Here we go with another longshot. I am trying to find out the birthdate > and place of a Samuel Ozbun who married a Phebe Hodgson on 29 Apr 1790 in > North Carolina. His parents were Samuel Ozbun and Elizabeth Lamb and her > parents were George Hodgson and Rachel Christy Oldham. > They had 6 children: Ruth Ozbun b. 26 Feb 1791 NC, Abner Ozbun b. 18 Jul > 1792 NC, Elizabeth Ozbun b. 13 Feb 1794 NC, Rachel Ozbun b. 30 Jun 1796 NC, > William Ozbun b. 17 Nov 1798 NC and Jesse Ozbun b. 13 Jan 1801 NC. I only > have a spouse for Jesse Ozbun a Nancy Brown. > I would like to have the names of the spouses of the other children if > possible. > Thanks, > Dale in California > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUAKER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

18 May 1765, Guilford, NC. Phoebe is my 2nd cousin, 5x removed. :) -Mike On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Dale Harguess <daleharguess4@gmail.com>wrote: > Here we go with another longshot. I am trying to find out the birthdate > and place of a Samuel Ozbun who married a Phebe Hodgson on 29 Apr 1790 in > North Carolina. His parents were Samuel Ozbun and Elizabeth Lamb and her > parents were George Hodgson and Rachel Christy Oldham. > They had 6 children: Ruth Ozbun b. 26 Feb 1791 NC, Abner Ozbun b. 18 Jul > 1792 NC, Elizabeth Ozbun b. 13 Feb 1794 NC, Rachel Ozbun b. 30 Jun 1796 NC, > William Ozbun b. 17 Nov 1798 NC and Jesse Ozbun b. 13 Jan 1801 NC. I only > have a spouse for Jesse Ozbun a Nancy Brown. > I would like to have the names of the spouses of the other children if > possible. > Thanks, > Dale in California > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUAKER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Here we go with another longshot. I am trying to find out the birthdate and place of a Samuel Ozbun who married a Phebe Hodgson on 29 Apr 1790 in North Carolina. His parents were Samuel Ozbun and Elizabeth Lamb and her parents were George Hodgson and Rachel Christy Oldham. They had 6 children: Ruth Ozbun b. 26 Feb 1791 NC, Abner Ozbun b. 18 Jul 1792 NC, Elizabeth Ozbun b. 13 Feb 1794 NC, Rachel Ozbun b. 30 Jun 1796 NC, William Ozbun b. 17 Nov 1798 NC and Jesse Ozbun b. 13 Jan 1801 NC. I only have a spouse for Jesse Ozbun a Nancy Brown. I would like to have the names of the spouses of the other children if possible. Thanks, Dale in California

I am resending this, as I originally only replied to Dale (and not the whole group). Here's what I said: Hi Dale, I show her as being born c. 1744 in Guilford or Rowan counties, NC. I have over 200 known Dicks/Dix family members! Hope this helps, Mike Wells PS she (Rachel) was my 1st cousin, 6x removed. ;) On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Dale Harguess <daleharguess4@gmail.com>wrote: > I know this is a longshot because it is so ancient but I am hoping that > someone can tell me the date of the birth of a Rachel Christy OLDHAM who > married a George Hodgson on 27 Nov. 1764 in Guilford County, NC. I have > that her parents were a William OLDHAM and a Sarah DICKS. > If anyone knows anything about this family I would appreciate it greatly. > Thanks, > Dale in California > P.S. also the place of her birth if known. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QUAKER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I know this is a longshot because it is so ancient but I am hoping that someone can tell me the date of the birth of a Rachel Christy OLDHAM who married a George Hodgson on 27 Nov. 1764 in Guilford County, NC. I have that her parents were a William OLDHAM and a Sarah DICKS. If anyone knows anything about this family I would appreciate it greatly. Thanks, Dale in California P.S. also the place of her birth if known.

Mike Wilson, The Stark Monthly Meeting was and is in Neosho County, Kansas. https://www.quakermeetings.com/Plone/meeting_view?anID=839 I see no reference to Hinshaw abstracts, even the informal ones. Tom Hill Thomas C. Hill Charlottesville, VA 22901-6355 U.S.A. formerly Cincinnati, OH www.QuakerMeetings.com E-mail: MonthlyMeetings@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: quaker-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:quaker-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wilson Sent: Thursday, 22 March, 2012 8:52 PM To: Quaker-Roots-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Q-R] KS Meeting places My g-gpa, David Willson (2-L's) is purportedly recorded in the Warren Co., NJ Meeting born on March 6, 1861 in NJ and dying in Neosho Co., KS on March 2, 1895. Both dates are more precise than my descendant records (non-Quaker), and I'm surprised that Quaker ancestry was never discussed in family get-togethers. Is this common for extended Quaker family to record at 'home base' rather than at the local Meeting? In fact, I don't know if there was a local Meeting in, or near, Erie, Neosho Co., KS. Can anyone in the forum provide proof of these dates and places? Hinshaw's books are not available in the local library, and his index is checked out. Any other reference material available to verify this David Willson is a son of Abijah and Margaret Willson of Quakertown, NJ? Thanks in advance, Mike Wilson, mwtroth@comcast.net

I have in my files an Elizabeth Hoover Bulla (1778-1857) whose husband was William Bulla (1777-1862) of Wayne Co., IN.  The daughter of Andrew and Elizabeth Waymire Hoover, Elizabeth married William in N. Carolina around 1798, and they became the parents of 10.  Among the first settlers in Wayne County, living northwest of Richmond, they were active in the Underground Railroad.  She and William were buried in a Hoover-Bulla Cemetery somewhere in Wayne Co..Elizabeth's sister Rebecca (1791-1867) married Isaac Julian (1781-1823) and settled in Centerville, near Richmond.  (From a 1970 history of Indiana Yearly Meeting, Our Special Heritage, by Richard Ratcliff, 165p., p.22, where there is a photo of William.  The same information is in Opal Thornburg's 1963 history of Earlham...the College, 484p., p.10) [Responding to the message of 3/24/2012:] I would like info about the Bulla, Hampton, crampton familes.  They are paternal ancestors.  Robert Sutherland  rwa430@sbcglobal.net

Robert I have some information about the Bulla family. How do you connect? How much information do you want? I also have Anna Hampton: father William Hampton; mother Sarah Johnson. I do not have anything on Crampton's. If you need a lookup, I live in Wayne County. Dave Sloan In a message dated 3/24/2012 5:14:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rws430@sbcglobal.net writes: I would like info ab out the Bulla,Hampton, crampton familes. They are paternal ancestors. Robert Sutherland rwa430@sbcglobal.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUAKER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't think that you can come to any firm conclusions. From what I've read, the theory didn't match the practice.   Part of the problem lies in the particular cause of any apprenticeship. This could range from forced (caused by poverty or vagrancy and organised through the parish Overseers of the Poor) to voluntary (arranged privately, often within the family network), with shades inbetween.   Private apprenticeships would most likely start somewhere between the age of 14 and 21, but quite possibly earlier. Forced apprenticeships were more likely to start earlier. The apprenticeship was usually supposed to last for seven years. The apprentice was not supposed to marry during the apprenticeship.   I don't know about any age in which an orphan child need 'to be to not "give money with him" when placing him'. I would think that this would very much depend on the trade, on the family relationship, and on any quid pro quo; but maybe this is a reference to the age of 24. Quite probably others on the list can be more helpful.   Have a look at:   https://www.familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Apprenticeship_in_England       Chris

Hello, I have another mystery Crew ancestor from New Kent Co., Virginia. She is Sarah CREW, who declared intent to marry Charles Johnson in 1735 in Henrico County. Per evidence compiled by Paulette Smith (from old posts on Crew Family Genforum), she may have been the daughter of Arthur or Robert Crew, two sons of Andrew Crew of Charles City County. Robert was born about 1675 in Charles City Co.; he died about Aug. 1737 at Charles City Co.; he married Sarah Crisp (dau. of ? Crisp & Mary Howard) about Oct. 17, 1703. He had a daughter, Sarah, born about 1713. Arthur's daughter's (also named Sarah) birth was recorded at St Peter's Parish, New Kent County, 21 Apr. 1712. Arthur was born about 1673; he married Mary Renshall. Of the 2 brothers, Robert was a Quaker. My Sarah Crew's husband, Charles, was supposedly a son of John Johnson of New Kent....they were first members of St. Peter's Parish, but the family later became Quakers.....Sarah and Charles eventually moved to Amelia County, where Charles died about 1768. Quite impoverished at the time, Sarah and the family of Charles received aid from Amelia Monthly Meeting. (Hinshaw VI, p.254). Sarah and her sons, James (my ancestor), Thomas, and Robert were then gct to New Garden MM in North Carolina. If anyone has ever seen information regarding the parentage of Sarah, I would be very interested in learning anything you might be able to share. Susan Carlson