In a message dated 9/26/2004 9:05:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, blsmith@rurallink.net writes: > I have a Quaker Thomas family that sounds like it could be connected > with the Isaac and Mary in question. My John M Thomas, Jr., had a > brother Isaac b ca the time of your Isaac; they are sons of John M > Thomas Sr (& Molly Clark), I connect to this John & Molly Clark Thomas family. Their oldest child was an Isaac Thomas b. 1767. He however had only one marriage--to Rachel Knight. They had 8 children whom I have extensive info about. Joyce Overman Bowman Indianapolis, IN

I have a Quaker Thomas family that sounds like it could be connected with the Isaac and Mary in question. My John M Thomas, Jr., had a brother Isaac b ca the time of your Isaac; they are sons of John M Thomas Sr (& Molly Clark), son of Stephen Thomas ( & Mary Clothier), son of Triston Thomas Jr. (& Judith Clayland). I am always happy to exchange, if this rings anyone's bell. Billie Lee Smith

In looking over my genealogy notes, I see that the people who did the historic research into the Allen house ruin have merged the John Allen (1694-1771) with his son John Allen (1720-1754). Part of the problem is that the immigrant is thought to be the son of John Allen as well, which gives a string of three men with the same name. Not having read the documentation, I am working with a fraction of the research that was generated, but the following is a summary: John Allen (b. 1694) settled in London Grove Twp. around 1720. We know this is the case, since the area was just being settled around this time. The property is located in the London Tract, and the earliest deeds for this area date to the 1718-1722 era. Several of the settlers had been living on their land for a decade before the deeds were executed, since the earliest London Tract deeds were approved in London. This John Allen apparently constructed the log house which was just excavated. John Allen (b. 1720) would probably not have constructed a house of any kind c. 1730. Since I recall the presenter stating that some of the pottery remains are known to date to the 1730s, this would suggest that the ruin was constructed by the John Allen (b. 1694). When John Allen (b. 1720) died in 1754, no deed was executed transferring the property. The presenter noted that this was strange and that his brother assumed ownership of the property. This is the kind of work that I do (for example, I recently ran the title of Shadrach Scarlett's property to the north). This is one of several reasons that a gap might exist in a chain of title. However, if the John (b. 1694) owned the property, everything is clear. The son's window and children did not need to transfer the property to someone else because they didn't own it. This leaves the question of who the brother was that was mentioned. Since the brother was not an ancestor of mine, I didn't note anything about him. I don't know whose brother he was. Anyway, it seems that the mystery brother was not needed to explain who owned the property after 1754. All I recall is that the brother was said to be a blacksmith. One thing which sticks out in my mind as I try to recall portions of the presentation is that most of it was devoted to the people who lived in the brick house which still stands. I think that the brick house was constructed in the 1780s -- it has a datestone, but since (again) my ancestors didn't live there, I did not take any notes about it. It seems a little strange that so much of the presentation dealt not with the house being excavated but rather dealt with a nearby and later house where none of the excavation work was done. If any of you are in the Chester County area and are interested in seeing these places, let me know. I can also show thee the house on Shadrach Scarlett's property. The oldest section of the Scarlett house seems to have been constructed not by the Shadrach Scarlett who married Phebe Bowater but by their son Shadrach. I have not been inside the house, which might reveal alternate clues, but the exterior construction reflects architectural trends associated with houses constructed after Shadrach Sr. died around 1739. One note about the Scarlett house: early deeds state that the property contained a mansion house, which would not be the case for the oldest section of the house that stands there now. This property also has a stone barn with a 1776 datestone which was enlarged c. 1820 to a double decker barn. _________________________________________________________________ Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx

I know nothing of individual families, but I recall that several Bates (including at least one "Martin" as I recall) acted as trustees of property for Newberry [now Martinsville (Newberry)] MM in Clinton County: Where records are kept: WILMINGTON mf LDS 476785-88, 974074 Records known extant: WYM ARCHIVES: MIN 1816-1952, WOMEN MIN 1816-1883, MIN, MARRIAGES, BIRTHS & DEATHS 1816-1927, BIRTHS & DEATHS 1772-1877, MARRIAGES 1817-1863, PM MIN 1851-1874, TREAS 1838-1886 with its records at the Wilmington YM Archives at Wilmington College, Wilmington, Ohio, and microfilmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah and copies available at local LDS Family History Centers. Tom Hill > I am searching for the family of Mary Ann/Maryan Ousley born ca 1800 to 1815 in VA, but married 23 Jan 1834 in Clinton Co., OH to Martin Bates. Would like information on any of the Ousley family in the Clinton Co. area. Believe this was the Newberry MM. > Jo Wilson

Hi Jack I have received this one so you must be doing it right, your quairy does not have any Surnames that I am searching, mine are Quails Nicholson Franklin Burchfield/birchfield.Waldrop Parson Vines But the first 4 are the main ones as the rest are married in to the others ok not sure this makes any since at all, some who receive post could be set to receive by Digest only so they read it once a week . I read every day, I hope you find the family you are looking for. Blessings to you sky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack" <nvjack@nvbell.net> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 3:40 AM Subject: [Q-R] Moses H. BEEDE (1795 VT - 1867 RI) > Hello, > > I sent the message below yesterday but I never received a "copy" of it in > my > inbox as I expected, so I assume I must have done something wrong [as > usual]. If you have already received this query from me, I apologize for > sending it again. I am new to this list and don't know how it works > [yet]. > Perhaps someone can tell me what to expect regarding this list. I am not > expecting replies to my queries, just some indication that they are > actually > being received by the list members. > > Jack in Carson City > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack [mailto:nvjack@nvbell.net] > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 12:15 PM > To: 'QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com' > Subject: Moses H. BEEDE (1795 VT - 1867 RI) > > Greetings: > > I am trying to identify the children of Moses H. BEEDE, "Quaker minister > of > wide reputation", born 13 May 1795 Ferrisburg, VT to Daniel BEEDE > (1771-1833) and Lydia HOAG (1772-1817). He married Matilda DAKIN > (1790-after 1850) on 7 Apr 1817 in Ferrisburg, VT and died 19 Jun 1867 in > Providence, RI. > > So far, I have identified three children: > > Lydia BEEDE, born 29 Jan 1818 > Elias Dakin BEEDE, born 28 Dec 1819 > Keziah BEEDE, born 10 Dec 1832, died 26 Jan 1836 > > I believe there is a strong possibility that Moses and Matilda had other > children between 1819 and 1832 but I have been unable to find a record of > them. The records are probably buried in some Quaker Meeting Minutes > somewhere. > > Can one of you "Quaker Gurus" help me out? It would really be > appreciated. > > Jack Ralph in Carson City, NV > > > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Hello, I sent the message below yesterday but I never received a "copy" of it in my inbox as I expected, so I assume I must have done something wrong [as usual]. If you have already received this query from me, I apologize for sending it again. I am new to this list and don't know how it works [yet]. Perhaps someone can tell me what to expect regarding this list. I am not expecting replies to my queries, just some indication that they are actually being received by the list members. Jack in Carson City -----Original Message----- From: Jack [mailto:nvjack@nvbell.net] Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 12:15 PM To: 'QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com' Subject: Moses H. BEEDE (1795 VT - 1867 RI) Greetings: I am trying to identify the children of Moses H. BEEDE, "Quaker minister of wide reputation", born 13 May 1795 Ferrisburg, VT to Daniel BEEDE (1771-1833) and Lydia HOAG (1772-1817). He married Matilda DAKIN (1790-after 1850) on 7 Apr 1817 in Ferrisburg, VT and died 19 Jun 1867 in Providence, RI. So far, I have identified three children: Lydia BEEDE, born 29 Jan 1818 Elias Dakin BEEDE, born 28 Dec 1819 Keziah BEEDE, born 10 Dec 1832, died 26 Jan 1836 I believe there is a strong possibility that Moses and Matilda had other children between 1819 and 1832 but I have been unable to find a record of them. The records are probably buried in some Quaker Meeting Minutes somewhere. Can one of you "Quaker Gurus" help me out? It would really be appreciated. Jack Ralph in Carson City, NV

Herbert, Thank you for the additional information. I also have this book--it was my first major genealogical purchase and I consider it to be one of the most valuable and helpful "sources" that I own. I appreciate the comments on the land and mill operations. My husband is descended from John & Phebe (Scarlett) Allen, as well as Elizabeth Allen & her husband Simon Dixon. Alice Allen *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 9/25/2004 at 12:54 PM Standcedargrove@aol.com wrote: >This relates to a mailing from Seth Hinshaw dated 09/24/2004. Ed >Crabtree and Alice Allen submitted comments to this mailing on the same date. > > I happen to have a copy of the genealogy, _The Allen Family, >Descendants of John and Amy Cox Allen, with Allied Lines_, compiled by Lester M. Allen > of Greensboro, NC, c. 1987. <snip>

This relates to a mailing from Seth Hinshaw dated 09/24/2004. Ed Crabtree and Alice Allen submitted comments to this mailing on the same date. I happen to have a copy of the genealogy, _The Allen Family, Descendants of John and Amy Cox Allen, with Allied Lines_, compiled by Lester M. Allen of Greensboro, NC, c. 1987. John Allen (1694-1771) came to America from Dublin, Ireland as a young man, bringing a certificate from Dublin Friends dated the 17th of the 1st mo. 1712/13 which was received by Newark MM on 2 mo. 3, 1714. At that time, Newark MM (after 1760 known as Kennett MM) consisted of Preparative Meetings of Newark, DE; New Castle, DE; Centre near present-day Centerville, DE; and Kennett Meeting over the Pennsylvania line, where Old Kennett Meetinghouse is now located. Kennett Preparative Mtg. included various new worship groups which were being set up with the colonization of present-day Chester County, PA. John Allen married Amy Cox in 1719 under the care of Newark MM. I do not believe that the parentage of Amy Cox has been determined with any degree of certainty. In the years from 1710 to 1730 Friends were moving into London Grove Township, Chester County, PA. London Grove Meeting is said to have been established in 1714. John Allen, the immigrant, seems to have settled on 63 acres of land two or three miles southwest of London Grove Meetinghouse, according to a map by Gilbert Cope included in the book entitled, "Two Hundredth Anniversary of London Grove Meeting 1714-1914". ---- I have visited London Grove Meetinghouse several times, but I have not sought out the exact location of the John Allen homestead. It appears that John Allen was in partnership in the milling business with Shadrach Scarlet ((1693-1739), son of Humphrey Scarlet and Ann (Richards) (Weaver) Scarlet. Shadrach Scarlet owned 100 acres of land just north of the 63 acres belonging to John Allen, the immigrant. Shadrach Scarlet died as a comparativly young man, and probably John Allen took over the management of the entire milling business. John and Amy Allen's oldest child was John Allen (1720-1754). John Allen married 9 mo. 12, 1740 Phebe Scarlet (1722-1815), daughter of Shadrach and Phebe (Bowater) Scarlet. They had six children, the youngest dieing in infancy. John Allen II seems to have been an enterprising man and tended to go on lengthy hunting expeditions. About 1752 or 1753 he visited the vicinity of Cane Creek near Snow Camp, North Carolina and filed for a land grant. However, after returning to Chester County, PA, he died before making the move to North Carolina. However, Phebe, his widow, with the children moved to North Carolina, where Phebe later married Isaac Cox. John Allen, the immigrant, lived on at the London Grove Twp homestead until 1771. He left a detailed will dated 12 mo. 7, 1769, which mentions land upon which his son John built a house near a mill.----- Before compiling the Allen Family genealogy, Lester Allen had visited the location in the company of Frank Walton, a long-time resident of the area, and was shown a house across the road from the site of a mill which had burned about 1915. Frank Walton believed that at least one room of the house had been part of the dwelling of John and Phebe (Scarlet) Allen.------ Of course Frank Walton could have been mistaken. I am interested in this matter, since it appears that I am a descendant of John and Phebe (Scarlet) Allen, through their daughter, Hannah Allen, who married Nicholas Barker in North Carolina. ---- Herbert Standing, Earlham, Iowa.

Greetings: I am trying to identify the children of Moses H. BEEDE, "Quaker minister of wide reputation", born 13 May 1795 Ferrisburg, VT to Daniel BEEDE (1771-1833) and Lydia HOAG (1772-1817). He married Matilda DAKIN (1790-after 1850) on 7 Apr 1817 in Ferrisburg, VT and died 19 Jun 1867 in Providence, RI. So far, I have identified three children: Lydia BEEDE, born 29 Jan 1818 Elias Dakin BEEDE, born 28 Dec 1819 Keziah BEEDE, born 10 Dec 1832, died 26 Jan 1836 I believe there is a strong possibility that Moses and Matilda had other children between 1819 and 1832 but I have been unable to find a record of them. The records are probably buried in some Quaker Meeting Minutes somewhere. Can one of you "Quaker Gurus" help me out? It would really be appreciated. Jack Ralph in Carson City, NV

Dear List, I am looking for an Edwin Clark who married Rebecca Hatcher. My wife is a descendant of Edwin and Rebecca Clark. Descendants of William Hatcher 1 William Hatcher b: May 22, 1791 in Loudoun Co, VA .. +Elizabeth Bland b: Abt. 1792 in Virginia ........ 2 Rebecca Hatcher b: January 01, 1819 in Logan Co, OH d: September 15, 1909 in Richardson Co, NE ............ +Edwin Clark b: Abt. 1825 in Albany, Clinton Co, KY d: March 24, 1865 in Philadephia, Tennessee Rebecca was a Quaker Hatcher. Don't know for sure but I there were Clarke Quakers. Samuel, Jesse (VA) and Jesse (NC) Clarks were also in ClintonCo, KY at the time and one of them could be Edwin's father. Does anyone recognize these folks? Thanks, Mike -- Michael J. Gough mjgough@cablelynx.com

I am looking for The parents of Thomas Andrew Nicholson of Al. if any one has any Info Please share with me Sky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel C. Matthews" <noelm@hypermall.net> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 1:10 PM Subject: [Q-R] Granberry - Virginia Quakers > The Granberry family is hard to trace because there are several family > spellings, such as Cranbury (the earliest), Cranbery, Granby, and > Granberry. They are all derived from the Old English form > "crana-byrig", meaning an earthwork frequented be cranes. > > William Granberry, b. abt 1625 in England, d. after 1684 in > Nansemond Co VA He married Ann ? about 1658. > > William had a brother John Granberry and they came to America together, > were the first of the name in America, and arrived in Nansemond Co., VA > about 1856. There is a land grant in their names at Simons Creek, Lower > Norfolk County, Virginia, on 7 February 1656. In 1682 John Granberry > received a patent for land, along with William, in Nansemond County, > Virginia, on the North Carolina border. In 1679 William Granberry > received a patent for land in the same county. > > Son William Granberry Jr., born about 1660 in Nansemond Co., VA married > Sarah Montgomery about 1698. > > Son of William Jr and Sarah was Moses Granberry born about 1700. Moses > was still in Nansemond Co., VA around 1726. he bought land then there. > Moses married Elizabeth ?, not sure when. > > Their son James Granberry married Mary Manning about 1750. > Their son, Moses's second wife was Elizabeth Dulaney. > > Their son Jonathan Granberry (1794-1850) married Ann Nancy Travis (1800 > - 1883) in 1815. Ann was a 1st cousin > to William Barrett Travis of the Texas Alamo fame. > > Son of Jonathan and Ann was William Stafford Granberry (1834 - 1924). He > married Harriet Pope in 1855. > > Their daughter Nancy Virginia Granberry (1868 - 1909) married John > Carrol Nations in 1884. > > Their daughter was Bertha Lenora Nations (1891 - 1984) married John > William Crawford (1877 - 1938) in 1907. > > Their daughter Elsie Inez Crawford married Frank Arnold Matthews. These > were my parents. > > Any connections with anyone? > > Noel > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

The Granberry family is hard to trace because there are several family spellings, such as Cranbury (the earliest), Cranbery, Granby, and Granberry. They are all derived from the Old English form "crana-byrig", meaning an earthwork frequented be cranes. William Granberry, b. abt 1625 in England, d. after 1684 in Nansemond Co VA He married Ann ? about 1658. William had a brother John Granberry and they came to America together, were the first of the name in America, and arrived in Nansemond Co., VA about 1856. There is a land grant in their names at Simons Creek, Lower Norfolk County, Virginia, on 7 February 1656. In 1682 John Granberry received a patent for land, along with William, in Nansemond County, Virginia, on the North Carolina border. In 1679 William Granberry received a patent for land in the same county. Son William Granberry Jr., born about 1660 in Nansemond Co., VA married Sarah Montgomery about 1698. Son of William Jr and Sarah was Moses Granberry born about 1700. Moses was still in Nansemond Co., VA around 1726. he bought land then there. Moses married Elizabeth ?, not sure when. Their son James Granberry married Mary Manning about 1750. Their son, Moses's second wife was Elizabeth Dulaney. Their son Jonathan Granberry (1794-1850) married Ann Nancy Travis (1800 - 1883) in 1815. Ann was a 1st cousin to William Barrett Travis of the Texas Alamo fame. Son of Jonathan and Ann was William Stafford Granberry (1834 - 1924). He married Harriet Pope in 1855. Their daughter Nancy Virginia Granberry (1868 - 1909) married John Carrol Nations in 1884. Their daughter was Bertha Lenora Nations (1891 - 1984) married John William Crawford (1877 - 1938) in 1907. Their daughter Elsie Inez Crawford married Frank Arnold Matthews. These were my parents. Any connections with anyone? Noel

Exactly which John Allen would this be? Thanks. Ed Crabtree (Missouri) familyhistorian@kc.rr.com Outgoing emails scanned by McAfee VirusScan

This would be of interest to me as well, as my husband is the 6gg grandson of the immigrant John Allen. I was not aware that the immigrant John Allen had a brother who came to America, so it must have been his son John, who died in 1754. John II's brothers were William, Joseph, & Benjamin, and I believe they stayed in PA while John II's family went to NC. Alice Allen *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 9/24/2004 at 9:50 AM familyhistorian@kc.rr.com wrote: >Exactly which John Allen would this be? > >Thanks. > >Ed Crabtree (Missouri) >familyhistorian@kc.rr.com >Outgoing emails scanned by McAfee VirusScan >

Last evening, a local historic preservation organization hosted a lecture on archaeology. One of the projects discussed was the recent work on the c. 1730 John Allen house. This building was constructed on Route 41 near the eastern border of London Grove Township, Chester County. This was of interest to me, since I descendant from him. The house chronology is roughly as follows: c. 1730 -- a log cabin was constructed. This building faced roughly NNE onto the public road from Newport DE to Lancaster PA. The Allens lived here until John Allen died; at that time, the remainder of the family moved to NC and his brother assumed the ownership of the property. c. 1785 -- a new and large brick house was constructed on the other side of the road. The Hoopes family had purchased the property and constructed the new house. c. 1810 -- The road became Gap-Newport Turnpike. As part of the upgrading of the road to a turnpike, its route was straightened. One result of this was that the log house built by John Allen ended up on the same side of the road as the Hoopes House. The log house disappears from tax records after this time, which suggests that the Hoopes family tore it down. The log house would have stood between the new brick house and the road, so the Hoopes family may have felt that it detracted from a view of their above-average sized house. c. 1935 -- The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania upgraded the road again. Their goal this time was to level it, taking out some of the hills. In this location, the state brought in infill to raise the roadbed. This work played an important role in preserving the subterranean remains. 2004 -- Plans for the widening of Gap-Newport Pike precipitated a survey of historic and archaeological resources along its length. This work led to the discovery of the foundation of the log house constructed by John Allen. _________________________________________________________________ Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the Back to School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx

Many thanks, Chris and all, for your responses. These sites all sound wonderful!! Terri

I wrote: >Another possibility, by the way, for finding out about 17th Century Quakers >travelling to America, especially in wartime and/or via Holland, is to >search whether they were issued with a passport. So far as I know the >details haven't yet got online (I'm happy to be corrected on that!!), but a >good American university might well have a collection of calendars on its >shelves. Ah, when I did a bit of message editing, I managed to cut out the name of the calendar. Sorry for any confusion. Passport details can be found in the Calendar of State Papers. Chris

Terri wrote: >Please explain what A2A is. All I can think of is Ancestors to >America???? Also, where is it?? Sorry, I was being rather lazy in my earlier post. The access for A2A is: http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/index.asp The central UK archives are held the National Archives in Kew. Their catalogue is online at: http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/default.asp However, a vast number of records are held at local depositories around the UK, and A2A is slowly (well, quite fast really!) putting all the English local catalogues onto a single database. Some time ago, many northern Friends records were added to A2A under the theme 'Our Mutual Friends in the North' [you can specify the theme in the extended search option]. More recently a lot of family records have been added. Once you've found a record that looks interesting, you can contact the appropriate record office to get further details (you may have to pay their research service; or they may well look up something simple for free). This is particularly useful if you've got something solid like a surname, a meeting name or a port/ship; but even if you haven't, you'll get a much better idea of what sort of records are available. Probate indexes are also going online. The most recent one, for the County of Lancashire, is still on trial: http://www.xmission.com/~nelsonb/lws.htm Another possibility, by the way, for finding out about 17th Century Quakers travelling to America, especially in wartime and/or via Holland, is to search whether they were issued with a passport. So far as I know the details haven't yet got online (I'm happy to be corrected on that!!), but a good American university might well have a collection of calendars on its shelves. You can get an idea of the sort of detail the Calendar has by looking at one that is online (the reign of James I, so too early for Quakers) at: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/source.asp?pubid=47 Oh dear, I'm beginning to ramble! British History Online (from which the above comes) is another tremendously useful research tool: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/about.asp Chris

Hello, I'm new to the list, and was wondering if there are any Johnson experts out there? I'm researching a semi-Quaker family (they appear in Hinshaw sometimes, sometimes not -- seem to have been in and out of the church) headed by Gideon Johnson, born c. 1798. He was living in Morgan County, Indiana, in 1850. He married first Delilah Hays (maiden name per her daughter's death certificate), second Edith Jessup. Delilah was from Ohio, as were their oldest children, so I checked for marriage records. The only marriage I could find was between Gideon Johnson and Delilah *Ross*. No marriage between Delilah Hays and __ Ross -- that I could find. Their marriage took place at right about the right time to be "my" family. Aside from pin-pointing the right couple, I've been trying to determine whether "my" Gideon is the one who was the son of William Johnson & Sarah Bloxom, or another one. Linda Humphrey Seattle, WA dnlsmoore@earthlink.net

Hello Bess - I have been curious about Quakers in Newfoundland, too, since discovering that Mary Fisher visited there to preach, and it seems you have discovered quite a few Newfoundland names with Quaker connections. All I can do is offer my opinion that if there had been an official Friends meeting there in the 17th century, I suspect I would have seen a reference to it somewhere, and we would find records of its existence, including reports on incidents of persecution. Friends did not have paid clergy, which kept start-up costs low, though they shared the cost of sending people like Mary Fisher on preaching missions, and if some willing member had a large enough house, and local authorities were not too hostile, others might gather in it for worship until a meetinghouse could be built. But a meeting would have to have developed a resident core group with acceptable leadership to obtain recognition as a meeting from other Friends. Mary Fisher (1623?-98) was about the most traveled Quaker woman of her time. A typical biographical sketch reports that she became a Friend in Yorkshire in 1652 and suffered a 16-month imprisonment for it there. She and the older Elizabeth Williams were badly treated for preaching in Cambridge in 1653. She traveled to Barbados and Boston in 1655-56 with another older Quaker, Anne Austin, but Boston sent them straight back to Barbados, where they remained for another year, convincing a number of residents of the merits of Quakerism. The typical biographical sketch neglects to mention that she was preaching in Newfoundland in 1659 with Esther Biddle (c1629-96) who had previously "touched shore" there in 1656, a year in which a whole ship full of Quakers was said to have put in [the Speedwell brought a group intent on preaching in 1656, but had non-Quaker passengers as well.] I read this in a paper on the Internet, which I gather you also found, about the "Anglicans, Puritans, and Quakers in 17th-C Newfoundland." It had a footnote saying English Quakers were collecting money for mission activity in Feb. 1660(/61?), and reporting Newfoundland as one of the countries where such activity was taking place. The best known Mary Fisher story is that she walked some 500 miles across the Middle East in 1660 to obtain an audience with the Sultan, who listened politely to her message. Only with this mission behind her, did she marry, in 1662, another Quaker preacher, William Bayly from Poole, and thus fade out of the Quaker limelight. He and many other prominent Quaker men were in prison in London that year, and Mary was one of the "angels" who came daily with food. I assume that she raised their three children in England. Between imprisonments, Bayly continued his career as a "master mariner," visiting many ports and both preaching and writing against the wickedness he observed there. Friends saw him in Barbados in 1672; he died at sea on his way back from the W. Indies in 1675. Mary then married in 1678 John Cross, with whom she had, by 1685, emigrated to Charleston, SC, where an occasional traveling Quaker found her and a Quaker meeting, and where she was laid to rest in a Quaker burial ground. A Charleston-born and Anglican-raised grandaughter turned Quaker as an adult and crossed the ocean to preach in England. There are a number of Watermans mentioned in the " Sufferings" compiled by Joseph Besse, including poor widow Mary of Lincolnshire, who died while imprisoned for tithes in 1687, but none of them are named Richard. I saw a note on another list about a Quaker, Margaret Gibbs, b.c1670 in Barbados, who married Humphrey Waterman, who was not a Quaker, and moved to Philadelphia. I am afraid I can offer no help on Gillettes or the other Newfoundland names you list. -- S. Newton