Dear Billie Lee, You wrote: > I have an Elliot line from Perquimans Co., NC. A > Chart of the Elliott > family has been published by the Pasquotank > Historical Society of > Elizabeth City, NC > can you describe the format? Is this in an article or book, or just a chart published by itself? I looked for a website but find none. Any info on obtaining this would be appreciated. My ggg grandmother, first wife of John Thompson of Pasquotank, was Sarah Elliott according to family tradition but I have found no proof of this. Her daughter was named Sarah and her son John had Elliott as a middle name, but this is the extent of the evidence. By the 1850 census John had a second wife, Phoebe. Thanks, Paul Johnson Macon, NC __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com

> On Oct 4, 2004, at 6:22 AM, marsha moses wrote: > "1763, 11, 26. Jacob (Ellott) & W& ch, Jacob, Elizabeth, Hannah, Israel & William rocf Warrington MM, Pa, > dated 1763, 9, 20 (I have a copy of the original MM records for this)" I believe that Jacob and daughter Elizabeth could be my line. My Elizabeth Elliott married Hugh Maxwell in 1787 Elliott in N. C. They can be found in Cane Creek M. M. and Center M. M. in the Guilford County area after their marriage. Do you have anything else on this family? People have been trying to tell me my Elizabeth was from Perquimans County also but I can not find the paper trail. Jean grannyroots@iowatelecom.net or jeansjots@yahoo.com "Watch What You Say or Do, You Might Sell Your Parrot To The Town Gossip and If You Don't Have A Parrot Someone Above May Be Watching You" Every Name Index: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanlee Register Reports: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanlee/ leepergenealogical.html Cemetery project: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanlee/ cemeteriesmarionhenry.htm BillieLee Smith wrote: >> >> > Hi Marsha, > I have an Elliot line from Perquimans Co., NC. A Chart of the > Elliott family has been published by the Pasquotank Historical Society > of Elizabeth City, NC > > Billie Lee Smith > >

Sorry, Mike. I don't have anyone with that name in my data base. If she was born in Indiana, I can give you some ideas on some lines to look at.....but I don't know the Elliotts in WV or KY. Marsha Michael Taylor wrote: >Marsha: Do you have a Urie Catherine Elliott b 1850 m Thomas Thompson Talbert in your >line? >Thanks, Mike in WV > > > > >

Thanks for your reply, Billie. I am now about 98% sure that my Abraham Elliott--son of Jacob Elliott was not from Perquimans Co. I haven't given away my Perquimans County books yet....but Jacob and his brother Abraham bring a Certificate from Pennsylvania when they arrive at New Garden MM. Here is what my data base says : Elliott 1763, 11, 26. Jacob (Ellott) & W& ch, Jacob, Elizabeth, Hannah, Israel & William rocf Warrington MM, Pa, dated 1763, 9, 20 (I have a copy of the original MM records for this) I have been very aware of the Perquimans Co. NC Elliotts because I knew that one or the other group would probably be mine as my Catherine Elliott McKinsey was said to have been born in NC. But my big breakthrough this past summer has me no longer looking at the Perquimans lines. I would love to have any help that anyone can give me in sorting out which Elliotts were which in Ohio and Indiana in the 1800's. Thanks for your reply. Marsha in WV BillieLee Smith wrote: >> >> > Hi Marsha, > I have an Elliot line from Perquimans Co., NC. A Chart of the > Elliott family has been published by the Pasquotank Historical Society > of Elizabeth City, NC > > Billie Lee Smith > >

Marsha: Do you have a Urie Catherine Elliott b 1850 m Thomas Thompson Talbert in your line? Thanks, Mike in WV Check out our Monaville, WV webpage at www.taylormadeministry.com/monaville.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "BillieLee Smith" <blsmith@rurallink.net> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [Q-R] Hills of Randoph and Guilford County, NC > > On Sunday, October 3, 2004, at 08:37 PM, marsha moses wrote: > > > I have saved an old e-mail that was sent in Jan 2002. It mentions a > > book about the Hills of Randolph and Guilford county, NC and says that > > Chapter 6 is Moving Westwqard to Kentucky and Ohio. Does anyone have > > a title for this book? Now that I am pretty certain that my Elliott > > line is from that general vicinity, I would like to see if that book > > might be helpful to my research. Marsha in WV > > > > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > > Need assistance? Please contact:Quaker-Roots-L-Admin@RootsWeb.com > > List Manager for Quaker-Roots-L and Quaker-Roots-D > > Now with over 750 subscribers > > > > > Hi Marsha, > I have an Elliot line from Perquimans Co., NC. A Chart of the Elliott > family has been published by the Pasquotank Historical Society of > Elizabeth City, NC > > Billie Lee Smith > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: > QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com > The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE. > >

I have saved an old e-mail that was sent in Jan 2002. It mentions a book about the Hills of Randolph and Guilford county, NC and says that Chapter 6 is Moving Westwqard to Kentucky and Ohio. Does anyone have a title for this book? Now that I am pretty certain that my Elliott line is from that general vicinity, I would like to see if that book might be helpful to my research. Marsha in WV

On Sunday, October 3, 2004, at 08:37 PM, marsha moses wrote: > I have saved an old e-mail that was sent in Jan 2002. It mentions a > book about the Hills of Randolph and Guilford county, NC and says that > Chapter 6 is Moving Westwqard to Kentucky and Ohio. Does anyone have > a title for this book? Now that I am pretty certain that my Elliott > line is from that general vicinity, I would like to see if that book > might be helpful to my research. Marsha in WV > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Need assistance? Please contact:Quaker-Roots-L-Admin@RootsWeb.com > List Manager for Quaker-Roots-L and Quaker-Roots-D > Now with over 750 subscribers > > Hi Marsha, I have an Elliot line from Perquimans Co., NC. A Chart of the Elliott family has been published by the Pasquotank Historical Society of Elizabeth City, NC Billie Lee Smith

"This Margaret was Margaret (Williams) Cook, born 1734, died 1822, daughter of Ennion and Frances (Bowes) Williams. She married Stephen Cook, son of John and Eleanor (Lansdale) Cook. So this Margaret was a sister-in-law to Margaret (Cook) Johnson. (My wife is descended from the latter.)" Tom Hamm ----------------------- Of course, Thank you Mr. Hamm. Bob Cooke

Violet and others near Southern Maryland, Since this is a Quaker list, I thought some who are near the three Southern Maryland counties (Charles, Calvert, St. Mary's) might be interested in a program advertised in our local paper for Tuesday, Oct 5 at 7 o'clock. Wes Stone, a local historical reenactor, will present his portrayal of the generally-agreed upon founder of the Quakers, George Fox, at the Fairview Branch of the Calvert County library. Just a thought for those in the Washington DC area. Frank -----Original Message----- From: Violet Guy [mailto:vmguy@gmpexpress.net] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:09 AM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Q-R] William Gough Family Doug & others interested in St. Mary's County, Maryland: Maybe this URL will help. Less than a year ago, we relocated here. And yes, I do have ancestors that I track through this website as well on the Charles County, MD GenWeb site . This week-end, St. Mary's County will celebrate the "Blessing of the Fleet" with some of the celebrations be held on St. Clement's Island, where the Arch & the Dove first came in 1634 under the Calverts. Maryland was established as a Properitary Colony by the King of England and it came here is a Catholic Colony. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdstmary/ St. Mary's County Genealogy, a Maryland GenWeb site. Violet Moore Guy 10/01/2004 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Gough" <mjgough@cablelynx.com> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [Q-R] William Gough Family > Doug, this went to the Quaker-Roots-L list. You need to send it to > MDSTMARY-L@rootsweb.com. Did I per chance, send you the wrong URL? > > Mike > > Doug wrote: > > >Tercentenary History Of Maryland Vol IV devotes four pages to the > > > >Gough Family. Pages 221 & 222, and 555 & 556 gives the family tree > > > >of my Grandfather, Bernard Browne Gough and My Aunt, Mary > > > >Genevieve Gough Hodge. It states the following tree: Bernard B > > > >& Ida Magruder Gough, Thomas Washington & Mary Maguire > > > >Gough, Joseph Leo & Cassandra Cecil Gough, Charles & Ann > > > >Langley Gough, George Gough (will probated 1807 Leonardtown > > > >Md., Stephen & Ann Gough (1797), James & Priscilla Gough > > > >(1764), James & Elizabeth Gough (1725), Stephen & Clare > > > >Gough (1700), William & Hester Gough (1679), Calvert > > > >County, Md. > > > > > > > >Upon receiving several of the above wills from St Mary's County, > > > >I realized that Stephen Gough 1797 did not leave anything > > > >to a George Gough. All of his children were mentioned in > > > >the will. Therefore, I believe that the line is incorrect. George > > > >is not the son of Stephen. Although Charles is the son of > > > >George and left land etc to Joseph the dates do not agree. > > > >Joseph is shown dying in 1820.His son, Thomas Washington > > > >Gough was born 1843. I have census reports showing > > > >Cassandra living with Thomas and dying in 1888 in > > > >Baltimore. The Tercentenary states Joseph Leo was in the > > > >War of 1812 and died at sea, and is buried at Hampton > > > >Roads Virginia, date of death unknown. > > > > > > > >I am unable to verify but do believe that Joseph Leo is > > > >the father of Thomas Washington Gough but am > > > >unable to find whom Joseph Leo's father is??? > > > > > > > >Can anyone help me correct the line??? > > > > > > > >Doug Mordecai > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > >Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On > >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Michael J. Gough > mjgough@cablelynx.com > > > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: > QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com > The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE. > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Need assistance? Please contact:Quaker-Roots-L-Admin@RootsWeb.com List Manager for Quaker-Roots-L and Quaker-Roots-D Now with over 750 subscribers

Doug & others interested in St. Mary's County, Maryland: Maybe this URL will help. Less than a year ago, we relocated here. And yes, I do have ancestors that I track through this website as well on the Charles County, MD GenWeb site . This week-end, St. Mary's County will celebrate the "Blessing of the Fleet" with some of the celebrations be held on St. Clement's Island, where the Arch & the Dove first came in 1634 under the Calverts. Maryland was established as a Properitary Colony by the King of England and it came here is a Catholic Colony. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdstmary/ St. Mary's County Genealogy, a Maryland GenWeb site. Violet Moore Guy 10/01/2004 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Gough" <mjgough@cablelynx.com> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [Q-R] William Gough Family > Doug, this went to the Quaker-Roots-L list. You need to send it to > MDSTMARY-L@rootsweb.com. Did I per chance, send you the wrong URL? > > Mike > > Doug wrote: > > >Tercentenary History Of Maryland Vol IV devotes four pages to the > > > >Gough Family. Pages 221 & 222, and 555 & 556 gives the family tree > > > >of my Grandfather, Bernard Browne Gough and My Aunt, Mary > > > >Genevieve Gough Hodge. It states the following tree: Bernard B > > > >& Ida Magruder Gough, Thomas Washington & Mary Maguire > > > >Gough, Joseph Leo & Cassandra Cecil Gough, Charles & Ann > > > >Langley Gough, George Gough (will probated 1807 Leonardtown > > > >Md., Stephen & Ann Gough (1797), James & Priscilla Gough > > > >(1764), James & Elizabeth Gough (1725), Stephen & Clare > > > >Gough (1700), William & Hester Gough (1679), Calvert > > > >County, Md. > > > > > > > >Upon receiving several of the above wills from St Mary's County, > > > >I realized that Stephen Gough 1797 did not leave anything > > > >to a George Gough. All of his children were mentioned in > > > >the will. Therefore, I believe that the line is incorrect. George > > > >is not the son of Stephen. Although Charles is the son of > > > >George and left land etc to Joseph the dates do not agree. > > > >Joseph is shown dying in 1820.His son, Thomas Washington > > > >Gough was born 1843. I have census reports showing > > > >Cassandra living with Thomas and dying in 1888 in > > > >Baltimore. The Tercentenary states Joseph Leo was in the > > > >War of 1812 and died at sea, and is buried at Hampton > > > >Roads Virginia, date of death unknown. > > > > > > > >I am unable to verify but do believe that Joseph Leo is > > > >the father of Thomas Washington Gough but am > > > >unable to find whom Joseph Leo's father is??? > > > > > > > >Can anyone help me correct the line??? > > > > > > > >Doug Mordecai > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > >Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On > >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Michael J. Gough > mjgough@cablelynx.com > > > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: > QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com > The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE. >

This Margaret was Margaret (Williams) Cook, born 1734, died 1822, daughter of Ennion and Frances (Bowes) Williams. She married Stephen Cook, son of John and Eleanor (Lansdale) Cook. So this Margaret was a sister-in-law to Margaret (Cook) Johnson. (My wife is descended from the latter.) Tom Hamm >List, > >I found this among a list of "works" by Albert Cook Myers: > > >Journals of the Travels of Margaret Cook (1734-1822), Quaker minister, from >Pennsylvania to Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, >1778-1891, serially in weekly issues of FRIENDS' INTELLIGENCER, >Philadelphia. Vol. LIV, April-September 1897. >Does anyone know if the above Margaret Cook is a descendant of Peter Cook & >Elinor Norman? The only Margaret I know of in this time frame is Margaret >Cook (1721-1781), dau.of John Cook & Elinor Lansdale, wife of James Johnson >(1725-1809). Could "Cook" be Margaret's married name? >Thanks, >Bob Cooke > > >==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Visit The Quaker Corner - http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers

List, I found a posting about Flower Swift's Militia in Montgomery Co., Virginia _http://www.ls.net/~newriver/va/swift/swiftbio.html_ (http://www.ls.net/~newriver/va/swift/swiftbio.html) Scroll down to Cook & Cox. A John Cook is found on two undated muster lists from 1780/81/82 or 1783 and the webmaster names John Cook, b. 1765, son of Abraham & Phebe Mills as a small possibility. I've contacted Mr. Quinn and he has no further other then what is posted. He points out correctly that John was probably too young 15-18. He tells me 18 was usually the cut off age, but not always. The only thing that strikes me about his family records is that he married later then most young Quaker men, after the Revolution in 1792 to Lydia Hussey. They were disowned for the marriage 10/27/1792. Has anyone heard about this? Bob Cooke

Doug, this went to the Quaker-Roots-L list. You need to send it to MDSTMARY-L@rootsweb.com. Did I per chance, send you the wrong URL? Mike Doug wrote: >Tercentenary History Of Maryland Vol IV devotes four pages to the > >Gough Family. Pages 221 & 222, and 555 & 556 gives the family tree > >of my Grandfather, Bernard Browne Gough and My Aunt, Mary > >Genevieve Gough Hodge. It states the following tree: Bernard B > >& Ida Magruder Gough, Thomas Washington & Mary Maguire > >Gough, Joseph Leo & Cassandra Cecil Gough, Charles & Ann > >Langley Gough, George Gough (will probated 1807 Leonardtown > >Md., Stephen & Ann Gough (1797), James & Priscilla Gough > >(1764), James & Elizabeth Gough (1725), Stephen & Clare > >Gough (1700), William & Hester Gough (1679), Calvert > >County, Md. > > > >Upon receiving several of the above wills from St Mary's County, > >I realized that Stephen Gough 1797 did not leave anything > >to a George Gough. All of his children were mentioned in > >the will. Therefore, I believe that the line is incorrect. George > >is not the son of Stephen. Although Charles is the son of > >George and left land etc to Joseph the dates do not agree. > >Joseph is shown dying in 1820.His son, Thomas Washington > >Gough was born 1843. I have census reports showing > >Cassandra living with Thomas and dying in 1888 in > >Baltimore. The Tercentenary states Joseph Leo was in the > >War of 1812 and died at sea, and is buried at Hampton > >Roads Virginia, date of death unknown. > > > >I am unable to verify but do believe that Joseph Leo is > >the father of Thomas Washington Gough but am > >unable to find whom Joseph Leo's father is??? > > > >Can anyone help me correct the line??? > > > >Doug Mordecai > > > > > > >==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > -- Michael J. Gough mjgough@cablelynx.com

List, I found this among a list of "works" by Albert Cook Myers: Journals of the Travels of Margaret Cook (1734-1822), Quaker minister, from Pennsylvania to Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, 1778-1891, serially in weekly issues of FRIENDS' INTELLIGENCER, Philadelphia. Vol. LIV, April-September 1897. Does anyone know if the above Margaret Cook is a descendant of Peter Cook & Elinor Norman? The only Margaret I know of in this time frame is Margaret Cook (1721-1781), dau.of John Cook & Elinor Lansdale, wife of James Johnson (1725-1809). Could "Cook" be Margaret's married name? Thanks, Bob Cooke

Tercentenary History Of Maryland Vol IV devotes four pages to the Gough Family. Pages 221 & 222, and 555 & 556 gives the family tree of my Grandfather, Bernard Browne Gough and My Aunt, Mary Genevieve Gough Hodge. It states the following tree: Bernard B & Ida Magruder Gough, Thomas Washington & Mary Maguire Gough, Joseph Leo & Cassandra Cecil Gough, Charles & Ann Langley Gough, George Gough (will probated 1807 Leonardtown Md., Stephen & Ann Gough (1797), James & Priscilla Gough (1764), James & Elizabeth Gough (1725), Stephen & Clare Gough (1700), William & Hester Gough (1679), Calvert County, Md. Upon receiving several of the above wills from St Mary's County, I realized that Stephen Gough 1797 did not leave anything to a George Gough. All of his children were mentioned in the will. Therefore, I believe that the line is incorrect. George is not the son of Stephen. Although Charles is the son of George and left land etc to Joseph the dates do not agree. Joseph is shown dying in 1820.His son, Thomas Washington Gough was born 1843. I have census reports showing Cassandra living with Thomas and dying in 1888 in Baltimore. The Tercentenary states Joseph Leo was in the War of 1812 and died at sea, and is buried at Hampton Roads Virginia, date of death unknown. I am unable to verify but do believe that Joseph Leo is the father of Thomas Washington Gough but am unable to find whom Joseph Leo's father is??? Can anyone help me correct the line??? Doug Mordecai

Thanks to Tom and all the others who have so generously given their time and efforts to my search for Ousley and Bates in the Clinton Co., OH area. I really do appreciate it. It is absolutely true - genealogist are the friendliest and best of people. Jo Wilson

George CARTER from Bucklebury, Berkshire, England settled in East Bradford, Chester Co, PA he married Elizabeth TULL. They were a Quaker family. Among their children were sons John CARTER b 26 Nov 1723 m Hannah COPE/COOPE; George CARTER b abt 1719 m Lydia WORTH Sons of John and Hannah were: Abraham, John, Jacob, Daniel and James. Sons of George and Lydia were: Thomas b 23 Jun 1745; George b 21 Aug 1747 m Ruth Martin; Joseph b 5 Dec 1749. I am hoping to make contact with any direct male CARTER descendant of the above families for purpose of trying to establish our connection to George CARTER from Bucklebury, England. Lynn Marion

Friends, Upon returning to my office today, I went back into my indices of southwest Ohio Quaker deeds and found NO Bates names in the Martinsville (Newberry) MM records. There was no Bates involved in Clinton County Quaker deeds until Eliza Bates at Cuba [Ohio] MM in 1890. The Newberry MM trustee's name I recalled as Bates was in fact Betts. I am sorry if this error has impeded Jo Wilson's or anyone else's research. Obviously, Hinshaw and the LDS microfilm references should provide accurate answers as to membership. Tom Thomas C. Hill 425 Walnut Street, Suite 1800 Cincinnati, OH 45202 U.S.A. Phone: 513-357-9334 Fax: 513-381-0205 e-mail: tomhill@nuvox.com -----Original Message----- From: tomhill@nuvox.net Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 3:28 PM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Q-R] Ousley Family, Clinton Co., OH I know nothing of individual families, but I recall that several Bates (including at least one "Martin" as I recall) acted as trustees of property for Newberry [now Martinsville (Newberry)] MM in Clinton County: Where records are kept: WILMINGTON mf LDS 476785-88, 974074 Records known extant: WYM ARCHIVES: MIN 1816-1952, WOMEN MIN 1816-1883, MIN, MARRIAGES, BIRTHS & DEATHS 1816-1927, BIRTHS & DEATHS 1772-1877, MARRIAGES 1817-1863, PM MIN 1851-1874, TREAS 1838-1886 with its records at the Wilmington YM Archives at Wilmington College, Wilmington, Ohio, and microfilmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah and copies available at local LDS Family History Centers. Tom Hill > I am searching for the family of Mary Ann/Maryan Ousley born ca 1800 to 1815 in VA, but married 23 Jan 1834 in Clinton Co., OH to Martin Bates. Would like information on any of the Ousley family in the Clinton Co. area. Believe this was the Newberry MM. > Jo Wilson

DASHJUST@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/19/2004 3:15:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JodyWils@aol.com writes: I am searching for the family of Mary Ann/Maryan Ousley born ca 1800 to 1815 in VA, but married 23 Jan 1834 in Clinton Co., OH to Martin Bates. Would like information on any of the Ousley family in the Clinton Co. area. Believe this was the Newberry MM. Hi, In addition to being a Henley, my husband is also descended from the Owsleys (alternate spelling Ousley) family of Virginia and Kentucky. His immediate ancestors of that line were not Quakers. However, you might get some assistance from the Owsley Family Historical Society. There is a website www.owsleyfamily.com-- Hope this helps. Madeleine Henley ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE. My Bernard Family are Quakers who came from Virginia to Clinton County, Ohio at this same time. While I do not reconize this as one of my names, it could be, I will look. Bernie Naylor bernardallisonnaylor@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

According to the certificate of transference that the immigrant John Allen brought with him from Dublin, Ireland (transcribed in "The Allen Family, Descendants of John & Amy Cox Allen" etc), the immigrant John Allen was the son of John Allen, deceased. I've never seen mention of a brother who came to America, although (stretching my memory here) a James Allen was in the area about the same time. Also according to the book, it was a tradition that the first son of a John Allen had to be named John as well. My husband descends from John & Amy Cox Allen, then John & Phebe (Scarlett) Allen, John & Rachel (Stout) Allen, then John & Dinah (Stuart) Allen before we lose the "John." If I remember correctly, John & Dinah had a son John, he just doesn't happen to my husband's direct ancestor. Since I live on the west coast, it's not going to be easy to get to these houses, although I hope to get back east one day when we retire. Hope these are all still standing by then. Alice Allen *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 9/26/2004 at 7:26 PM sethhinshaw@hotmail.com wrote: >In looking over my genealogy notes, I see that the people who did the >historic >research into the Allen house ruin have merged the John Allen (1694-1771) >with >his son John Allen (1720-1754). <snip>