Joab is definitely the son of Abraham and Rachel Elliott. He is named in Abraham's will. He dies without children. I have more information if anyone would want it. Marsha in WV Jeobowman@cs.com wrote: >> >> >My descent on this Elliott line is from the son, Jacob Elliott who m. Ann >Stone. My information shows that Jacob had 3 sisters, Eve, Esther, & Edith. I >had the information that both Eve and Edith married someone named shoemaker. I >received some information last year that lists the 8 children of Evan & Eve >Elliott Shoemaker. >My original (20 yr. old) info said Jacob had a brother, Joab, but the same >message last year said that further research had shown that Joab was the s/o >Abriham & Rachel Elliott rather than Jacob & Welmet. > >I am not aware that Israel & Welmet had a son, Israel. However, but my Jacob >& Ann Stone Elliott did have a son, Israel. > >Without checking for sources, I will just state that I have the info that >Welmet Lamb Elliott died in 1819 in Wayne Co, IN. >Joyce > >Joyce Overman Bowman >Indianapolis, IN > > > >

What surprises me is that the bride was of a Quaker background and the groom Moravian, wouldn't this be unusual? No love is blind. I have Quaker who marry out their faith but if spouse come into Quaker faith they can. So do not and disowned by the Quaker for marry out the faith. I many both ways. Then I read the women and children can be Quaker and the husband is not. But I do not think you Linebaugh became a Quaker. The Frey family was not Quaker. The Linebaugh were not Moravian until Count Z_____ came to America. That is when Jacob Leinbaugh and his wife and some of their children join. The Linebaugh is my family. www.geocities.com/janet_ariciu Not sure about Moravian but Jacob Linebaugh son Jacob move to NC with the Moravians. Frederick Linebaugh and Elizabeth Amelia Frey is my link to Jacob Linebaugh and Susan Nine/Nuen to Daniel Linebaugh and Rebecca Bowman (Bowman of Shenandoah) to Barsheba Linebaugh and Caswell Carter (have not found his parents) to Mahala Carter and Isaac Green to John Green and Margaret Kilmer to James Green and Lillie Stewart to John Green and LaVena Watts my parents Carter station, as I found out, was Quaker station. Janet Ariciu -----Original Message----- From: Stephanie [mailto:stephie@seasurf.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 11:46 PM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Q-R] New to the list Good Evening, I have just recently made a connection to ancestors that were Quakers. What surprises me is that the bride was of a Quaker background and the groom Moravian, wouldn't this be unusual? Can anyone enlighten me on these religions. This is the lineage: In 1740 they were in Berks co, PA, 1774 in Frederick county Maryland then John Linebaugh m. Elizabeth Reeser on 4 Sept 1798, Shenandoah County, VA by 1795 they are in Greene County, TN. Was Greene County a large Quaker or Moravian settlement? Thank you for your help. Stephanie Miller ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE.

Please ignore the previous post. I found some misinformation on the internet and upon closer study realize it is not correct. I am sorry. Stephanie

Good Evening, I have just recently made a connection to ancestors that were Quakers. What surprises me is that the bride was of a Quaker background and the groom Moravian, wouldn't this be unusual? Can anyone enlighten me on these religions. This is the lineage: In 1740 they were in Berks co, PA, 1774 in Frederick county Maryland then John Linebaugh m. Elizabeth Reeser on 4 Sept 1798, Shenandoah County, VA by 1795 they are in Greene County, TN. Was Greene County a large Quaker or Moravian settlement? Thank you for your help. Stephanie Miller

Jean & List - Here is what I have on the children of Jacob & Elizabeth Elliott. DOB Data on the 1st four children is from the genealogical records of Warrington MM, York co,PA. [1] Jacob Elliott, b.11 Nov 1752, York co,PA; marr. abt 1775 Betty Beeson, b.30 Jul 1754, Rowan co,NC; dau of Benjamin Beeson (1713-1794) & Elizabeth Hunter [2] Elizabeth Elliott, b. 8 Aug 1754, York co,PA; died young [3] Hannah Elliott, b.24 Nov 1756, York co,PA; marr. 1 Jan 1777, Center MM, Guilford co,NC Stephen Ward (c1750-c1835) [4] Israel Elliott, b.28 Jul 1759, York co,PA; [to Lost Creek MM,TN in 1797; to West Branch MM,OH in 1808] marr. abt 1780 Wilmet Lamb, b.ca.1764 dau of Joseph Lamb (c1740- ? ) & Frances Beeson [5] William Elliott, b.ca.1761, York co,PA [6] Abraham Elliott, b.ca.1764, Rowan co,NC [7] Elizabeth Elliott, b.ca.1766, Rowan co,NC [8] Rachel Elliott, b.ca.1768, Rowan co,NC If you are convinced from your research that Elizabeth, wife of Hugh Maxwell, is identical to [7] above, I can accept that as substantiated. Regards, Jerry Richmond You are cordially invited to visit "The Quaker Collection" http://home.sprynet.com/~jrichmon/qkrcoll.htm

Marsha Moses & others: This evening as I was going through my e-mails, I found quite a number of messages about the ELLIOTT Family of NC. Here is my point of reference to ELLIOTT from http://www.mendenhall.org/ . http://www.mendenhall.org/mfa/ElliottAlb.pdf Mendenhall Family Photographs Collected by Prof. A. Marshall Elliott (See contacts on Title page.) http://www.mendenhall.org/mfa/tng/getperson.php?personID=I10278&tree=Mendenhall Aaron Marshall Elliott page with a biography. http://www.mendenhall.org/mfa/tng/getperson.php?personID=I02049&tree=Mendenhall Rhonda Coffin Mendenhall m. Aaron C. Elliott b. 17 Sep 1808, Guilford Co, NC. Aaron C. Elliott was son of Aaron was the son of Thomas and Abigail (Anderson) Elliott. He married first Mary Symons. A. Marshall Elliott was born 24 Jan 1844, Guilford Co, NC ; and he was the grandson of James W. & Miriam (Hoggatt) Mendenhall, who are my 3G-Grandparents. I have used his family research charts of Mendenhalls from copies held by LDS, Salt Lake City, UT. I believe that he may have done some work on Elliott Family -- this idea is that I remember seeing a chart heading with Elliott Family heading in my Mendenhall research. He died before he got his works published. Many of his papers, atleast the Mendenhall ones, are held in Chester County (Pennsylvania) Historical Society, as I understsnf -- See Title page of the Albumn. Violet Moore Guy <vmguy@gmpexpress.net> 10/04/2004 ----- Original Message ----- From: "marsha moses" <mosesm@earthlink.net> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 9:37 PM Subject: [Q-R] Hills of Randoph and Guilford County, NC > I have saved an old e-mail that was sent in Jan 2002. It mentions a > book about the Hills of Randolph and Guilford county, NC and says that > Chapter 6 is Moving Westwqard to Kentucky and Ohio. Does anyone have a > title for this book? Now that I am pretty certain that my Elliott line > is from that general vicinity, I would like to see if that book might be > helpful to my research. Marsha in WV > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Need assistance? Please contact:Quaker-Roots-L-Admin@RootsWeb.com > List Manager for Quaker-Roots-L and Quaker-Roots-D > Now with over 750 subscribers >

Hello: Urie Catherine Elliott was from Mountain City, TN, I think? Mike Check out our Monaville, WV webpage at www.taylormadeministry.com/monaville.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "marsha moses" <mosesm@earthlink.net> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 7:28 AM Subject: [Q-R] Elliott > Sorry, Mike. I don't have anyone with that name in my data base. If > she was born in Indiana, I can give you some ideas on some lines to look > at.....but I don't know the Elliotts in WV or KY. Marsha > > Michael Taylor wrote: > > >Marsha: Do you have a Urie Catherine Elliott b 1850 m Thomas Thompson Talbert in your > >line? > >Thanks, Mike in WV > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

To Marsha and Joyce and others, As I write this more E-mails are coming in. Thanks Jerry for your input. I have added a little to my data base this evening and this is what I have now on Elizabeth Elliott who married Hugh Maxwell. Is it correct? If anyone wants more on Hugh and Elizabeth's descendants let me know. I would like more on Elizabeth's sibling's families if anyone wants to share. First Generation ********************* 1. John ELLIOTT. Born ca 1700. Names and dates for John, Sarah and children from Jerry Richmond Notes from Jerry “ It appears that John and Sarah Elliott transferred their membership from Burlington MM, NJ to New Garden MM, Chester Co, PA in 1722. They may have been Charter Members when Sadsbury MM was established by New Garden MM.” John married Sarah, in PA? They had the following children: 2 i. Abraham (ca1725-) 3 ii. Jacob (ca1728-) 4 iii. Benjamin (ca1730-) Second Generation ********************* Family of John ELLIOTT (1) & Sarah 2. Abraham ELLIOTT. Born ca 1725. 3. Jacob ELLIOTT. Born ca 1728. Jacob and his brother Abraham bring a Certificate from Pennsylvania when they arrive at New Garden MM. Here is what (mosesm@earthlink.net) Marsha’s data base says : Elliott "1763, 11, 26. Jacob (Ellott) & W& ch, Jacob, Elizabeth, Hannah, Israel & William rocf Warrington MM, Pa, dated 1763, 9, 20 (Marsha has a copy of the original MM records for this)" New Garden MM, NC Records 1782, 4, 27 Jacob (Ellot) and wife Elizaberth and children William, Abraham, Elizabeth and Rachel, rocf Center MM, NC dated 1781,7,21. 1784 1,31, Jacob (Ellot) and wife Elizabeth and children William Abraham,, Eliz and Rachel, get Center MM. Cane Creek MM Records 1792, 4, 7 Jacob rocf Center MM. N.C. dated 1792,3,17. Ca 1755 Jacob married Elizabeth, in Lancaster County, PA. Elizabeth died on 28 Oct 1791 in Center MM, NC. aged 58 yrs. They had the following children: 5 i. Jacob (<1763-) 6 ii. Elizabeth (<1763-<1766) 7 iii. Hannah (<1763-) 8 iv. Israel (<1763-) 9 v. William (<1763-) 10 vi. Elizabeth (1766-1841) 11 vii. Abraham 12 viii. Rachel 4. Benjamin ELLIOTT. Born ca 1730. Third Generation ********************* Family of Jacob ELLIOTT (3) & Elizabeth 5. Jacob ELLIOTT. Born bef 1763. 6. Elizabeth ELLIOTT. Born bef 1763. Elizabeth died bef 1766. (Not sure who from but they said she died young so would have to be before the second Elizabeth) 7. Hannah ELLIOTT. Born bef 1763. 8. Israel ELLIOTT. Born bef 1763. 9. William ELLIOTT. Born bef 1763. 10. Elizabeth ELLIOTT, GGGG Grandmother. Born on 7 Jun 1766 in North Carolina. (?Perquimans Co. N. C. does not fit.?) Elizabeth died in Salem IN, on 4 Mar 1841; she was 74. Buried in Friends Cemetery Salem, IN. Jacob and his brother Abraham bring a Certificate from Pennsylvania when they arrive at New Garden MM. Here is what, (mosesm@earthlink.net), Marcia’s data base says: Elliott "1763, 11, 26. Jacob (Ellott) & W& ch, Jacob, Elizabeth, Hannah, Israel & William rocf Warrington MM, Pa, dated 1763, 9, 20 (She has a copy of the original MM records for this)" New Garden MM, NC Records 1782, 4, 27 Jacob (Ellot) and wife Elizaberth and children William, Abraham, Elizabeth and Rachel, rocf Center MM, NC dated 1781,7,21. 1784 1,31, Jacob (Ellot) and wife Elizabeth and children William Abraham,, Eliz and Rachel, get Center MM. Cane Creek MM Records 1792, 4, 7 Jacob rocf Center MM. N.C. dated 1792,3,17. On 30 Dec 1787 when Elizabeth was 21, she married Hugh MAXWELL, GGGG Grandfather, son of John MAXWELL (ca 1718/1720-aft 1762/1772) & Elizabeth McLENDON (McLANDEN) (1706/1710-? 1762), in North Carolina. Born on 9 Feb 1762 in North Carolina. Hugh died in Union Co IN, on 8 Jun 1830; he was 68. Buried in Salem Friends Cemetery, IN (another person Ward Cem.). Hugh and Elizabeth may have joined the Society of Friends after the Presbyterian Church split. I, Jean, have a map of Guilford County North Carolina in 1781 that shows the church on it. It was about 15,000 feet southeast of Guilford Courthouse, where the important battle of the Revolutionary War took place. The following Quaker church records show the Maxwell name for the first time. FROM P 408 CANE CREEK MONTHLY MEETING N.C. church records Guilford Co. N. C. 1790 8,7 Elizabeth rocf Center Monthly Meeting N. C. dated 1790 7,17 1792 10.6 Hugh recrq. 1792 10,6 Elizabeth dt. Hugh & Elizabeth recrq. They later go to Lost Creek Monthly Meeting in Tenn and listing of their children is on page 1108 of those records. They went to the Richmond area of IN My family line from there went to near Richmond, IN and in 1840 on to Salem, Iowa. another source says Hugh died 1 Dec 1838. (N. Wayne Cosby of Watson LA) They had the following children: i. John (1789-) ii. Elizabeth (1791-) iii. Jacob (1792-1845) iv. William (1794-) v. Hannah (1795-) vi. Thomas (1797-) vii. Mary (1799-) viii. Hugh (1801-) ix. David (1802-) x. Rachel (1804-) xi. Ruth (1806-) xii. Matilda (1808-) xiii. Lydia (1810-) 11. Abraham ELLIOTT. 12. Rachel ELLIOTT. On Oct 4, 2004, at 10:26 AM, marsha moses wrote: Jean, I am thrilled to hear from you! I agree that you and I are cousins! My premise is that two brothers moved from Pa to New Garden MM about 1763. One brother was Abraham and the other was Jacob. It is the Abraham's that have been sooooo confusing that I have finally think that I have figured out. Abraham had a son named Abraham and Jacob also had a son named Abraham. I descend from the Abraham who was the son of Jacob. The reason that he is not named in the below Hinshaw information is that he was not born until 1765. By the time Jacob and Elizabeth move or change MM, I believe that the older children have married and moved out of the home and so the children of Jacob and Elizabeth has slightly changed: 1784, 1,31, Jacob (Ellot) & w. Elizabeth, & ch. William, Abraham, Eliz & Rachel, gct Center MM (again from Hinshaw--but I do think that I have a copy of the original) It is also my belief that the Elizabeth who married Hugh Maxwell in 1787 is sister to my Abraham Elliott and daughter of our shared Jacob and Abraham Elliott. Here is what I have in my data base about your Hugh and Elizabeth; > Cane Creek MM page 408 Hinshaw Vol I > Maxwell > 1790,8,7 Elizabeth rocf Center MM, NC, dated 1790,7,17 > 1792,10,6 Hugh recrq (received by request) > 1792,10,6 Elizabeth, dt Hugh and Elizabeth, recrq > 1797, 10, 7 Hugh and sons gct Lost Creek MM [Tenn] > 1797, 10, 7 Elizabeth (with h) and children gct Lost Creek MM [Tenn] > > In the information for Abraham, I note that the date of birth does not > work....so need to double check the assumption that this is correct > information ( I am not sure without some digging what this last piece > of information means...) But I am almost sure that the following siblings moved from the Randolph/Guilford/Orange/Rowan County area (I have not done the land research to figure out exactly where they were all living) to Lost Creek in Tennessee then on to Wayne County, Indiana. My Abraham moved back to Warren County, Ohio during the Indian trouble around 1812 where several of his children married. One of his sons, Abner, then stayed in Ohio with his wife's people (she was Hannah Stubbs/Steubs.....oh, shoot...I don't have any more time....let me name the siblings (all children of Jacob and Elizabeth Elliott)that I think were at Lost Creek with families: Elizabeth and Hugh Maxwell Israel and Welmet Lamb Elliott Abraham and his wife (I think that her name may have been Rachel) and then I think that Israel and Welmet may have had a son named Jacob who married Ann (I can't come up with her maiden name by memory) who was also with them. I am sorry that I don't have time to dig up my files to give you more information....But I can only say that I am sooooo excited to find someone else to work on this line with me! I can't wait to share all that I have. Unfortunately my life is popping right now. Keep writing and I'll try to keep chatting. Marsha in WV Jean Leeper wrote: > > On Oct 4, 2004, at 6:22 AM, marsha moses wrote: > > "1763, 11, 26. Jacob (Ellott) & W& ch, Jacob, Elizabeth, Hannah, > Israel & William rocf Warrington MM, Pa, > > dated 1763, 9, 20 (I have a copy of the original MM records for > this)" > > I believe that Jacob and daughter Elizabeth could be my line. My > Elizabeth Elliott married Hugh Maxwell in 1787 > Elliott in N. C. They can be found in Cane Creek M. M. and Center M. > M. in the Guilford County area after their marriage. Do you have > anything else on this family? People have been trying to tell me my > Elizabeth was from Perquimans County also but I can not find the paper > trail. > > Jean > > g ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE. 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To Marsha Moses: The book you are looking for is The Hill Family of Chowan County, North Carolina, and it is conveniently posted online at this address: http://olympus.as.arizona.edu/~mccarthy/JILL/The%20Hill%20Family.htm They've done a great job, I find the book easy to look through even on an annoyingly slow dial-up connection. If you find your line in these Hills, I'd be interested in hearing from you. My husband is closely connected to this family, and I may be able to give you more leads depending on where your line fits in. Penny Sitler

Marsha & List - I show in one of my Quaker daabases that John Elliott, b.ca.1700, & wife Sarah had at least three sons. Abraham Elliott, b.ca.1725, Chester co,PA; d.ca.1808, Randolph co,NC marr.1: abt 1754 to Priscilla Foulke marr.2: 11 Aug 1774, Cane Creek MM,NC, to Mrs Sarah (Pike) Piggott; widow of William Piggott (1726-1770) Jacob Elliott, b.ca.1728, Chester co,PA marr. ca.1751. Lancaster co,PA, to Elizabeth ---- (c1733-1791) Benjamin Elliott, b.ca.1730, Chester co,PA; d.15 Feb 1803 marr. ca.1749, York co,PA, to Ann Wall my notes on Jacob Elliott are as follows: -Genealogical records from Warrington MM,PA -Sadsbury MM,. Lancaster co,PA on 6 Oct 1755 Jacob Elliot condemns his outgoing in marriage -Sadsbury MM on 1 Dec 1755 Jacob Elliot requests certificate to Warrington MM -New Garden MM, Rowan co,NC on 26 Nov 1763 Jacob Ellott & wife & 5 children received on certificate from Warrington MM,PA dated 20 Sep 1763 -Center MM set off from New Garden MM,NC in 1773 -New Garden MM on 27 Apr 1782 Jacob Ellott & hw Elizabeth & 4 children received on certificate from Center MM dated 21 Jul 1781 -New Garden MM on 31 Jan 1784 Jacob Ellott & hw Elizabeth & 4 children granted certificate to Center MM It appears that John & Sarah Elliott transferred their membership from Burlington MM,NJ to New Garden MM, Chester co,PA in 1722. They may have been Charter Members when Sadsbury MM was established by New Garden MM. I have seen no indication of when they were married or how they came to be members of Burlington MM,NJ. Regards, Jerry Richmond You are cordially invited to visit "The Quaker Collection" http://home.sprynet.com/~jrichmon/qkrcoll.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "marsha moses" <mosesm@earthlink.net> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [Q-R] Hills of Randoph and Guilford County, NC > Thanks for your reply, Billie. I am now about 98% sure that my Abraham > Elliott--son of Jacob Elliott was not from Perquimans Co. I haven't > given away my Perquimans County books yet....but Jacob and his brother > Abraham bring a Certificate from Pennsylvania when they arrive at New > Garden MM. Here is what my data base says : > > Elliott > 1763, 11, 26. Jacob (Ellott) & W& ch, Jacob, Elizabeth, Hannah, Israel > & William rocf Warrington MM, Pa, dated 1763, 9, 20 (I have a copy of > the original MM records for this) > > I have been very aware of the Perquimans Co. NC Elliotts because I knew > that one or the other group would probably be mine as my Catherine > Elliott McKinsey was said to have been born in NC. But my big > breakthrough this past summer has me no longer looking at the Perquimans > lines. I would love to have any help that anyone can give me in sorting > out which Elliotts were which in Ohio and Indiana in the 1800's. Thanks > for your reply. > Marsha in WV > > > BillieLee Smith wrote: > > >> > >> > > Hi Marsha, > > I have an Elliot line from Perquimans Co., NC. A Chart of the > > Elliott family has been published by the Pasquotank Historical Society > > of Elizabeth City, NC > > > > Billie Lee Smith > > > > > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Visit The Quaker Corner - http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers >

In a message dated 10/4/2004 4:53:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, blsmith@rurallink.net writes: > In my Lamb family history, I have a Welmet Lamb Elliott as follows: > Welmet Lamb, daughter of Joseph Lamb and Frances Beeson, was born ca > 1764, in Guilford Co., NC. She married ca 1779, NC, to Israel Elliott, > who was born 28 July 1759, in York Co., PA, died 30 May 1821, Wayne > Co., IN, son of Jacob and Elizabeth Elliott. > > Chn: 1. Eve Elliott, b 25 Jan 1787, NC , > 2. Esther Elliott , b ca 1780, Wayne Co., IN > 3. Israel Elliott > 4. Edith Elliott > 5. Jacob B Elliott II, born 22 Aug 1793 near Duckcreek MM, Henry Co., > IN. he was married before 1804, in Lost Creek, TN, to Ann Stone, who > was born 4 Jan 1785 > > Note that their son Jacob B was married to Ann Stone. > I have Welmet's complete ancestry, but I surely would like to get > Jacob's and Elizabeth's background, and very very much like to have the > info on the children of Welmet. Were there more than 5 children? When > did Welet die? Can you help me? > My descent on this Elliott line is from the son, Jacob Elliott who m. Ann Stone. My information shows that Jacob had 3 sisters, Eve, Esther, & Edith. I had the information that both Eve and Edith married someone named shoemaker. I received some information last year that lists the 8 children of Evan & Eve Elliott Shoemaker. My original (20 yr. old) info said Jacob had a brother, Joab, but the same message last year said that further research had shown that Joab was the s/o Abriham & Rachel Elliott rather than Jacob & Welmet. I am not aware that Israel & Welmet had a son, Israel. However, but my Jacob & Ann Stone Elliott did have a son, Israel. Without checking for sources, I will just state that I have the info that Welmet Lamb Elliott died in 1819 in Wayne Co, IN. Joyce Joyce Overman Bowman Indianapolis, IN

Brad, Thank you for this information. It is very helpful. I have located the FHL film number for the "list of the members of the New York Yearly Meeting at the time of the Separation of 1828" and will be ordering the film tomorrow. If you are interested in the information I have on some of the Quaker families in Brome County, Quebec, please visit http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/beede/bedees_in_quebec.htm Also, if you are interested in the information I have on Daniel Beede and Lydia Hoag and descendants, visit http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/beede/data/b4897.htm#P4897 I believe it corrects some of Zielinski's errors :-) Best regards, Jack -----Original Message----- From: Brad and Sheila Knowles [mailto:bnknowles@charter.net] Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:00 AM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Q-R] Re: Moses H. BEEDE (1795 VT - 1867 RI According to a pamphlet by S.A. Zielinski titled "The Story of the Farnham Meeting; A Quaker Meeting in Allen's Corner", Abner Beede, son of Daniel, came to East Farnham in 1820. The Farnham meeting was formed from member of the Ferrisburg MM that moved north and settled in Allen's Corner, Quebec, Canada. This was about 15 miles north of the Vermont border, about 75 miles from Ferrisburg. This migration started in about 1814, and in 1820, petitioned Ferrisburg for meeting for worship, became an Indulged Meeting in 1822, a Preparative Meeting in 1826, and a Monthly Meeting in 1842. Zielinski has Daniel born in 1771 and died in 1883, the same as you. However, he lists Daniel's wife as Lydia Bull (1772-1817), not Hoag. He does not mention when Daniel, Lydia, and their other children arrived in Allen's Corner, but he does have them there at some time. Children of Daniel and Lydia were Abner H. (1799-1882), Cynthia (1802-1848), and Tamzina (1808-1887). It is interesting to note that Abner had a son Moses H. Beede. Zielinski mentions a Moses H. Beede, born in Ferrisburg in 1795, but doesn't know where to place him genealogically. One thing to keep in mind in looking at these records is that since the Farnham meeting didn't become a monthly meeting until 1842, all of the records (birth, marriage, death) are listed as though they were in Ferrisburg; where they physically resided is not known. The Census of Brome County, Quebec can help in this regard. Also, Abner, Cynthia, and Tamzina are all buried in Brome County. A good site to use in this regard is the Quebec and Estern Counties Resource Page of Marlene Simmons: http://simmons.b2b2c.ca/ One other thing to keep in mind is that I have found Zielinski in error in tracing my own Knowles line in the Farnham meeting, and would suggest that you correlate anything mentioned above by him with other sources. In 1828 the New York Yearly Meeting took a census of all of their members, including all their children. I don't have access to this document, but it should list all of the children of Moses H. Beede that were born as of 1828, since the Ferrisburg MM was part of the NYYM. Also, the minutes of the Ferrisburg MM list all of their members as of 1828 (including all members in the Farnham area). Apparently this was the census that they forwarded to the yearly meeting. Both of these records are available from the Family History Library. Brad Knowles

I have an Ephraim Elliott in my line that shows up in Wayne County, Indiana in 1830 Census. Was suposedly from N.C. He has at one point several children that we can document...Giles, Nimrod, Narcissa, and Cynthia. There is another daughter that we have yet to identify. Mike Pearson

In a message dated 10/4/2004 10:41:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, mosesm@earthlink.net writes: > I only have seven children for the couple: (children of John (b. abt 1730) & > Elizabeth Elliott) > > Jacob, Elizabeth, Israel, Hannah, , William, Abraham, Rachel. Who am I > missing? > According to the info I have (which is on the way to you, Marsha) they had 2 daughters named Elizabeth. The first was born 1754 in PA, who died young. The second Elizabeth (without specific b. date listed) is listed as next to youngest child, b. in NC. Joyce Overman Bowman Indianapolis, IN

On Monday, October 4, 2004, at 10:26 AM, marsha moses wrote: > Jean, I am thrilled to hear from you! I agree that you and I are > cousins! My premise is that two brothers moved from Pa to New Garden > MM about 1763. One brother was Abraham and the other was Jacob. It > is the Abraham's that have been sooooo confusing that I have finally > think that I have figured out. Abraham had a son named Abraham and > Jacob also had a son named Abraham. I descend from the Abraham who > was the son of Jacob. The reason that he is not named in the below > Hinshaw information is that he was not born until 1765. By the time > Jacob and Elizabeth move or change MM, I believe that the older > children have married and moved out of the home and so the children > of Jacob and Elizabeth has slightly changed: > > > 1784, 1,31, Jacob (Ellot) & w. Elizabeth, & ch. William, Abraham, Eliz > & Rachel, gct Center MM (again from Hinshaw--but I do think that I > have a copy of the original) > > It is also my belief that the Elizabeth who married Hugh Maxwell in > 1787 is sister to my Abraham Elliott and daughter of our shared Jacob > and Abraham Elliott. Here is what I have in my data base about your > Hugh and Elizabeth; > >> Cane Creek MM page 408 Hinshaw Vol I >> Maxwell >> 1790,8,7 Elizabeth rocf Center MM, NC, dated 1790,7,17 >> 1792,10,6 Hugh recrq (received by request) >> 1792,10,6 Elizabeth, dt Hugh and Elizabeth, recrq >> 1797, 10, 7 Hugh and sons gct Lost Creek MM [Tenn] >> 1797, 10, 7 Elizabeth (with h) and children gct Lost Creek MM [Tenn] >> >> In the information for Abraham, I note that the date of birth does >> not work....so need to double check the assumption that this is >> correct information ( I am not sure without some digging what this >> last piece of information means...) > > > But I am almost sure that the following siblings moved from the > Randolph/Guilford/Orange/Rowan County area (I have not done the land > research to figure out exactly where they were all living) to Lost > Creek in Tennessee then on to Wayne County, Indiana. My Abraham moved > back to Warren County, Ohio during the Indian trouble around 1812 > where several of his children married. One of his sons, Abner, then > stayed in Ohio with his wife's people (she was Hannah > Stubbs/Steubs.....oh, shoot...I don't have any more time....let me > name the siblings (all children of Jacob and Elizabeth Elliott)that I > think were at Lost Creek with families: > > Elizabeth and Hugh Maxwell > Israel and Welmet Lamb Elliott > Abraham and his wife (I think that her name may have been Rachel) > > and then I think that Israel and Welmet may have had a son named Jacob > who married Ann (I can't come up with her maiden name by memory) who > was also with them. I am sorry that I don't have time to dig up my > files to give you more information....But I can only say that I am > sooooo excited to find someone else to work on this line with me! I > can't wait to share all that I have. Unfortunately my life is popping > right now. Keep writing and I'll try to keep chatting. Marsha in WV > > > > > Jean Leeper wrote: > >> > On Oct 4, 2004, at 6:22 AM, marsha moses wrote: >> > "1763, 11, 26. Jacob (Ellott) & W& ch, Jacob, Elizabeth, Hannah, >> Israel & William rocf Warrington MM, Pa, >> > dated 1763, 9, 20 (I have a copy of the original MM records for >> this)" >> >> I believe that Jacob and daughter Elizabeth could be my line. My >> Elizabeth Elliott married Hugh Maxwell in 1787 >> Elliott in N. C. They can be found in Cane Creek M. M. and Center M. >> M. in the Guilford County area after their marriage. Do you have >> anything else on this family? People have been trying to tell me my >> Elizabeth was from Perquimans County also but I can not find the >> paper trail. >> >> Jean >> >> g > Hi everyone, In my Lamb family history, I have a Welmet Lamb Elliott as follows: Welmet Lamb, daughter of Joseph Lamb and Frances Beeson, was born ca 1764, in Guilford Co., NC. She married ca 1779, NC, to Israel Elliott, who was born 28 July 1759, in York Co., PA, died 30 May 1821, Wayne Co., IN, son of Jacob and Elizabeth Elliott. Chn: 1. Eve Elliott, b 25 Jan 1787, NC , 2. Esther Elliott , b ca 1780, Wayne Co., IN 3. Israel Elliott 4. Edith Elliott 5. Jacob B Elliott II, born 22 Aug 1793 near Duckcreek MM, Henry Co., IN. he was married before 1804, in Lost Creek, TN, to Ann Stone, who was born 4 Jan 1785 Note that their son Jacob B was married to Ann Stone. I have Welmet's complete ancestry, but I surely would like to get Jacob's and Elizabeth's background, and very very much like to have the info on the children of Welmet. Were there more than 5 children? When did Welet die? Can you help me? I'm sorry I can't give you any authority, except the Quaker Encyopedia. I began this over forty years ago, and in the beginning I wasn't very good about documenting. Billie Lee Smith > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: > QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com > The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE. > > >

I too have some information about Jacob (b.abt. 1730) & his wife Elizabeth unknown. I only have 5 children listed for them. I would also be glad to share what I have, but it is probably about the same as Joyce's. Jackie Thomas Grant Co. Ind. -----Original Message----- From: Jeobowman@cs.com [mailto:Jeobowman@cs.com] Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:58 AM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Q-R] Elliotts In a message dated 10/4/2004 8:51:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, grannyroots@iowatelecom.net writes: > > On Oct 4, 2004, at 6:22 AM, marsha moses wrote: > > "1763, 11, 26. Jacob (Ellott) & W& ch, Jacob, Elizabeth, Hannah, > Israel & William rocf Warrington MM, Pa, > > dated 1763, 9, 20 (I have a copy of the original MM records for this)" > > I believe that Jacob and daughter Elizabeth could be my line. My > Elizabeth Elliott married Hugh Maxwell in 1787 > Elliott in N. C. They can be found in Cane Creek M. M. and Center M. > M. in the Guilford County area after their marriage. Do you have > anything else on this family? I have some information about Jacob (b. abt 1730) & Elizabeth Elliott. I have 8 children listed for them including an Elizabeth--but I have no info on her marriage. Would be glad to share with you the info I have. Joyce Joyce Overman Bowman Indianapolis, IN ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Need assistance? Please contact:Quaker-Roots-L-Admin@RootsWeb.com List Manager for Quaker-Roots-L and Quaker-Roots-D Now with over 750 subscribers

Joyce, I only have seven children for the couple: Jacob, Elizabeth, Israel, Hannah, , William, Abraham, Rachel. Who am I missing? I can't wait to talk some more! Oh for infinite hours....I am perhaps going to spend Wednesday in Ohio on this line and also on the Thomas line from Newberry SC. Anyone who has any suggestions on time best spent on these two lines in Ohio, I am open to suggestions. My time is going to be VERY limited. Marsha inWV Jeobowman@cs.com wrote: > >I have some information about Jacob (b. abt 1730) & Elizabeth Elliott. I >have 8 children listed for them including an Elizabeth--but I have no info on her >marriage. >Would be glad to share with you the info I have. > >Joyce > >Joyce Overman Bowman >Indianapolis, IN > >

Jean, I am thrilled to hear from you! I agree that you and I are cousins! My premise is that two brothers moved from Pa to New Garden MM about 1763. One brother was Abraham and the other was Jacob. It is the Abraham's that have been sooooo confusing that I have finally think that I have figured out. Abraham had a son named Abraham and Jacob also had a son named Abraham. I descend from the Abraham who was the son of Jacob. The reason that he is not named in the below Hinshaw information is that he was not born until 1765. By the time Jacob and Elizabeth move or change MM, I believe that the older children have married and moved out of the home and so the children of Jacob and Elizabeth has slightly changed: 1784, 1,31, Jacob (Ellot) & w. Elizabeth, & ch. William, Abraham, Eliz & Rachel, gct Center MM (again from Hinshaw--but I do think that I have a copy of the original) It is also my belief that the Elizabeth who married Hugh Maxwell in 1787 is sister to my Abraham Elliott and daughter of our shared Jacob and Abraham Elliott. Here is what I have in my data base about your Hugh and Elizabeth; > Cane Creek MM page 408 Hinshaw Vol I > Maxwell > 1790,8,7 Elizabeth rocf Center MM, NC, dated 1790,7,17 > 1792,10,6 Hugh recrq (received by request) > 1792,10,6 Elizabeth, dt Hugh and Elizabeth, recrq > 1797, 10, 7 Hugh and sons gct Lost Creek MM [Tenn] > 1797, 10, 7 Elizabeth (with h) and children gct Lost Creek MM [Tenn] > > In the information for Abraham, I note that the date of birth does not > work....so need to double check the assumption that this is correct > information ( I am not sure without some digging what this last piece > of information means...) But I am almost sure that the following siblings moved from the Randolph/Guilford/Orange/Rowan County area (I have not done the land research to figure out exactly where they were all living) to Lost Creek in Tennessee then on to Wayne County, Indiana. My Abraham moved back to Warren County, Ohio during the Indian trouble around 1812 where several of his children married. One of his sons, Abner, then stayed in Ohio with his wife's people (she was Hannah Stubbs/Steubs.....oh, shoot...I don't have any more time....let me name the siblings (all children of Jacob and Elizabeth Elliott)that I think were at Lost Creek with families: Elizabeth and Hugh Maxwell Israel and Welmet Lamb Elliott Abraham and his wife (I think that her name may have been Rachel) and then I think that Israel and Welmet may have had a son named Jacob who married Ann (I can't come up with her maiden name by memory) who was also with them. I am sorry that I don't have time to dig up my files to give you more information....But I can only say that I am sooooo excited to find someone else to work on this line with me! I can't wait to share all that I have. Unfortunately my life is popping right now. Keep writing and I'll try to keep chatting. Marsha in WV Jean Leeper wrote: > > On Oct 4, 2004, at 6:22 AM, marsha moses wrote: > > "1763, 11, 26. Jacob (Ellott) & W& ch, Jacob, Elizabeth, Hannah, > Israel & William rocf Warrington MM, Pa, > > dated 1763, 9, 20 (I have a copy of the original MM records for this)" > > I believe that Jacob and daughter Elizabeth could be my line. My > Elizabeth Elliott married Hugh Maxwell in 1787 > Elliott in N. C. They can be found in Cane Creek M. M. and Center M. > M. in the Guilford County area after their marriage. Do you have > anything else on this family? People have been trying to tell me my > Elizabeth was from Perquimans County also but I can not find the > paper trail. > > Jean > > g

According to a pamphlet by S.A. Zielinski titled "The Story of the Farnham Meeting; A Quaker Meeting in Allen's Corner", Abner Beede, son of Daniel, came to East Farnham in 1820. The Farnham meeting was formed from member of the Ferrisburg MM that moved north and settled in Allen's Corner, Quebec, Canada. This was about 15 miles north of the Vermont border, about 75 miles from Ferrisburg. This migration started in about 1814, and in 1820, petitioned Ferrisburg for meeting for worship, became an Indulged Meeting in 1822, a Preparative Meeting in 1826, and a Monthly Meeting in 1842. Zielinski has Daniel born in 1771 and died in 1883, the same as you. However, he lists Daniel's wife as Lydia Bull (1772-1817), not Hoag. He does not mention when Daniel, Lydia, and their other children arrived in Allen's Corner, but he does have them there at some time. Children of Daniel and Lydia were Abner H. (1799-1882), Cynthia (1802-1848), and Tamzina (1808-1887). It is interesting to note that Abner had a son Moses H. Beede. Zielinski mentions a Moses H. Beede, born in Ferrisburg in 1795, but doesn't know where to place him genealogically. One thing to keep in mind in looking at these records is that since the Farnham meeting didn't become a monthly meeting until 1842, all of the records (birth, marriage, death) are listed as though they were in Ferrisburg; where they physically resided is not known. The Census of Brome County, Quebec can help in this regard. Also, Abner, Cynthia, and Tamzina are all buried in Brome County. A good site to use in this regard is the Quebec and Estern Counties Resource Page of Marlene Simmons: http://simmons.b2b2c.ca/ One other thing to keep in mind is that I have found Zielinski in error in tracing my own Knowles line in the Farnham meeting, and would suggest that you correlate anything mentioned above by him with other sources. In 1828 the New York Yearly Meeting took a census of all of their members, including all their children. I don't have access to this document, but it should list all of the children of Moses H. Beede that were born as of 1828, since the Ferrisburg MM was part of the NYYM. Also, the minutes of the Ferrisburg MM list all of their members as of 1828 (including all members in the Farnham area). Apparently this was the census that they forwarded to the yearly meeting. Both of these records are available from the Family History Library. Brad Knowles > > Subject: > Moses H. BEEDE (1795 VT - 1867 RI) > From: > "Jack" <nvjack@nvbell.net> > Date: > Sun, 26 Sep 2004 01:40:37 -0700 > To: > QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > >Hello, > >I sent the message below yesterday but I never received a "copy" of it in my >inbox as I expected, so I assume I must have done something wrong [as >usual]. If you have already received this query from me, I apologize for >sending it again. I am new to this list and don't know how it works [yet]. >Perhaps someone can tell me what to expect regarding this list. I am not >expecting replies to my queries, just some indication that they are actually >being received by the list members. > >Jack in Carson City > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jack [mailto:nvjack@nvbell.net] >Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 12:15 PM >To: 'QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com' >Subject: Moses H. BEEDE (1795 VT - 1867 RI) > >Greetings: > >I am trying to identify the children of Moses H. BEEDE, "Quaker minister of >wide reputation", born 13 May 1795 Ferrisburg, VT to Daniel BEEDE >(1771-1833) and Lydia HOAG (1772-1817). He married Matilda DAKIN >(1790-after 1850) on 7 Apr 1817 in Ferrisburg, VT and died 19 Jun 1867 in >Providence, RI. > >So far, I have identified three children: > >Lydia BEEDE, born 29 Jan 1818 >Elias Dakin BEEDE, born 28 Dec 1819 >Keziah BEEDE, born 10 Dec 1832, died 26 Jan 1836 > >I believe there is a strong possibility that Moses and Matilda had other >children between 1819 and 1832 but I have been unable to find a record of >them. The records are probably buried in some Quaker Meeting Minutes >somewhere. > >Can one of you "Quaker Gurus" help me out? It would really be appreciated. > >Jack Ralph in Carson City, NV > >______________________________ > > > >>

In a message dated 10/4/2004 8:51:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, grannyroots@iowatelecom.net writes: > > On Oct 4, 2004, at 6:22 AM, marsha moses wrote: > > "1763, 11, 26. Jacob (Ellott) & W& ch, Jacob, Elizabeth, Hannah, > Israel & William rocf Warrington MM, Pa, > > dated 1763, 9, 20 (I have a copy of the original MM records for this)" > > I believe that Jacob and daughter Elizabeth could be my line. My > Elizabeth Elliott married Hugh Maxwell in 1787 > Elliott in N. C. They can be found in Cane Creek M. M. and Center M. > M. in the Guilford County area after their marriage. Do you have > anything else on this family? I have some information about Jacob (b. abt 1730) & Elizabeth Elliott. I have 8 children listed for them including an Elizabeth--but I have no info on her marriage. Would be glad to share with you the info I have. Joyce Joyce Overman Bowman Indianapolis, IN