> From a history written about this family comes the > following: > J.C. Brownfield was married in PA in 1846 to MISS > MARTHA SCHIPP [CHIPPS], daugher of David Schipp, a > native of the Keystone State and of German descent. > He was a contractor in stone and brick work. > Through one branch of the family she traces her > ancestry back to a MR. BROWN, a Quaker who came to > America with the noted William Penn. > My question is this....can anyone help us identify > MR. BROWN > Thank you for your attention to this request. > Glenn Hand I have a William Brown(e), a Quaker, who came to Pennsylvania in the late 1600s. There is a William Brown who has connections to Mr. Penn, but I've yet to see if this is my William Brown. Christina __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

It will be a new avenue too search.Thank You. keep on-keeping on-never quit. Roger

In a message dated 10/29/2004 11:34:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, zgordo@webtv.net writes: > Does anyone know if there are meetings in the > Channel Islands.Jersey,Guernsey,Alderney. > Checking the website <http://www.quaker.org> I found there are meetings on all 3 of the islands you mention. If you go to: <http://www.quaker.org.uk/mappages/findq.html#notknowit> it should bring you to the page where you can click on JE (for Jersey) or GY (for Guernsey) and you will have the info about all 3 meetings. Alderney is included on the Guernsey page. Those listed are: JERSEY FMH, 71 Colomberie, St. Helier, JE24QA (Meeting at) 10:30 AM Phone 01534 607 960 GUERNSEY FMH Clifton, St. Peter Port, GY1 10:30 AM 01481 254 788 ALDERNEY Alderney Pottery, Les Mouriaux, GY93UX 11:00 AM 01481 822 246 / 823 195 Whether these Meetings go back to the time of your ancestors, I don't know. Joyce Overman Bowman

According to "The Quaker Meeting houses of Britain", by David M. Butler, Friends Historical Society, 1999, pp. 233-235, Friends meetings have existed on both Guernsey and Jersey... Upper Clifton, St Peters Port, Guernsey: "For a meeting settled in 1790, Friends acquired a burial ground in 1797 of 14 sq yd within the Vardes estate in St Peters Port, with a right of way... The meeting house was built in 1811 on 'A piece of land situated at the top of Berthelot Street, in the parish of St Peters Port, and bordering upon the street called Vervure Street..." It's records should be recorded as follows: 1790-1804: Ringwood MM 1804-1824: Poole & Ringwood MM 1824-1870: Poole & Southampton MM 1871-1962: Alton, Southampton & Poole MM 1964-1965: Alton, Southampton & Poole MM 1966- Southampton & Portsmouth MM 71 Columberie, St Helier's, Jersey: "Earlier Quaker references to Jersey mention its use, or proposed use, as a place of banishment for English Friends (JFHS 1933, 33). More acceptable Quakerism dates from 1742 when the meeting was settled, gathering in the homes of members.... A plot of land 10 yd wide on Patriotic Street was bought for a burial ground c1833.... The present meeting house and its site were presented to Friends in 1872..." It's records should be recorded as follows: 1742-1870: Poole & Southampton MM 1871-1945: Alton, Southampton & Poole MM 1946-1965: Alton, Southampton & Poole MM 1966- Southampton & Portsmouth MM "JFHS" is the Journal of the Friends Historical Society. "Allen" was a familiar Quaker name, at least in the Philadelphia-area in the early years. Jeff Palmer - jap@highstream.net * * * Quote of the Week: “The state in which the rulers are most reluctant to govern is the best... and the state in which they are most willing, the worst." -- Plato -----Original Message----- From: zgordo@webtv.net [mailto:zgordo@webtv.net] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:17 PM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Q-R] Quaker Meetings Does anyone know if there are meetings in the Channel Islands.Jersey,Guernsey,Alderney. These Islands are off the coast of Normandy France.and are British Subjects even today. The reason I ask. Are things like how many Allen's are Quakers,? Some of my family moved there before huge constructions projects began in 1840.So why go to a small island like Victor Hugo did.? [to escape religious persecution.?]. Quakers were some of the early whalers off the East Coast Canada.many Channel Islanders did Maritime Occupations.My Family did. It would seem, after long hours of research. with very little results.That some of my relatived were in Hiding.WHY.?..Religious Reasons.? keep on-keeping on-never quit. Roger --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.782 / Virus Database: 528 - Release Date: 10/22/04

Does anyone know if there are meetings in the Channel Islands.Jersey,Guernsey,Alderney. These Islands are off the coast of Normandy France.and are British Subjects even today. The reason I ask. Are things like how many Allen's are Quakers,? Some of my family moved there before huge constructions projects began in 1840.So why go to a small island like Victor Hugo did.? [to escape religious persecution.?]. Quakers were some of the early whalers off the East Coast Canada.many Channel Islanders did Maritime Occupations.My Family did. It would seem, after long hours of research. with very little results.That some of my relatived were in Hiding.WHY.?..Religious Reasons.? keep on-keeping on-never quit. Roger

The records of South River Monthly Meeting, which was made up mainly of Friends in Bedford and Campbell counties but included the small number in Halifax, show that the Ehcholses began joining Friends in the 1750s. John, son of William and Sarah, became a member in 1757. William Sr. and Jr. joined in 1758, and Judith, daughter of John and Sarah, in 1759. There's nothing to indicate that other children of John and Sarah became Friends, or that the family had earlier Quaker connections. Nor is it clear how Sarah became a Friend, but her death is recorded in the monthly meeting records. I am descended from William Echols, Jr., through his daughter Judith Evans. Tom Hamm >I am Hoping some one can help me. > >William Echols b 1702 in VA and his wife Sarah Turner b abt 1705 in VA >Join the Quaker Soc. in VA 1720s or so. >So of the children join at same time. >The Quaker group would be in Lunenburg/Halifax, VA area > >Janet >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 10/27/2004 > > > >==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: > QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com > The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE.

From a history written about this family comes the following: J.C. Brownfield was married in PA in 1846 to MISS MARTHA SCHIPP [CHIPPS], daugher of David Schipp, a native of the Keystone State and of German descent. He was a contractor in stone and brick work. Through one branch of the family she traces her ancestry back to a MR. BROWN, a Quaker who came to America with the noted William Penn. My question is this....can anyone help us identify MR. BROWN Thank you for your attention to this request. Glenn Hand

I am Hoping some one can help me. William Echols b 1702 in VA and his wife Sarah Turner b abt 1705 in VA Join the Quaker Soc. in VA 1720s or so. So of the children join at same time. The Quaker group would be in Lunenburg/Halifax, VA area Janet --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 10/27/2004

Jerry, Kenneth Neal also has a Harmon Cox listed as a child of Thomas & Mary (Cook) Cox. Have not seen Harmon listed anywhere else either. Bob Cooke

Jerry, I don't have proof either that John Cox was a son of Thomas & Mary (Cook) Cox. I found him listed as a son on Kenneth Neal's website. He doesn't list a source. Bob Cooke

Dear Friends, I am seeking information about the Quaker connections of my ancestors from Leicester in the Seventeenth and Eighteenth centuries. My sixth great-grandfather, Francis Arnold, was a Freeman hosier of Leicester. Oral tradition has it that he was a member of the Religious Society of Friends. He married Anne Farren. I do not have any exact dates other than that his wife died in 1757, and one of their six known children, William, was born in 1698 in Leicester. It appears he became a Baptist. We do not know what became of the other children of Francis and Anne, but do know the names of some of them: Thomas, Robert, Anne, Jane and John. Thomas was a doctor. William's son was also a doctor (being the Dr Thomas Arnold of Leicester who operated an asylum there and wrote a number of works on mental illness). Would there be anyone on the list who could point me in the right direction re seeking information? Kind regards, Lynn Arnold

I am told that the Islands,Jersey.Guernsey.and Alderney had a small colony of Quakers. My Family moved there in 1842 one line from line from Gloucestershire Eng,[Blatchford-Winstone] the other line from Dorset,[Mullett-Richards] these four surnames are outsiders who's children married local's.the family is still there..Does anybody have similiar interest. The list archives have a Richard Blatchford.I was led to believe that the Blatchford's were not members of the society of friends. keep on-keeping on-never quit. Roger

I am in need of some items that Swarthmore College might have. Can you contact anyone by email that might put you in touch with someone that would do this work for me? I am willing to pay and know what I need. Thanks Joy Mark Saxton wrote: >Swarthmore College is a great resource for that type of info. > >Mark > >-----Original Message----- >From: marsha moses [mailto:mosesm@earthlink.net] >Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:58 AM >To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Q-R] Christiana Hundred > >I am just getting interested in Quakers in Pennsylvania--I am entirely >ignorant---going back two generations in my Elliott line takes me to the >area that you are talking about below. Can anyone point me to easy and >accurate information about Chirstiana Hundred and Chester County? I >just want some framework to use to begin my research in that area. >Thanks so much for any help that you can give me. Marsha in Wv > >CGarr34@aol.com wrote: > > > >>In a message dated 10/20/2004 10:02:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, >>QUAKER-ROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: >>have Swithin Chandler, b. 24 Jun 1674 in England, emigrated in 1687, d. >>abt 1742 in Chester Co, PA. He settled in the Brandywine area and was also >>in Christiana Hundred. ..... >> >> >> >> > > >==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Visit The Quaker Corner - http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers > > >==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Visit The Quaker Corner - http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers > > > > > >

In a message dated 10/24/2004 1:09:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, QUAKER-ROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Is there anyone on this list who recognizes any of these men or their > families? Or why they may have arrive in 1807. Or even more > importantly where they are likely to have lived before arriving in Wayne > Township? I would look to NC for them. About 1800 it was frowned upon to own slaves in NC and Quakers that did (even if they no longer did) were shunned enough that they moved to other states. Alot moved to SC and Ohio.

The name Hoag was and still is very well known in Salamanca, Cattaraugus Co. NY. Salamanca is part of the Seneca Indian Reservation that is undergoing extreme change at this time. They have just opened a new casino there, good or bad. There are and were Quakers in that area. Mostly gone now but the towns of Collins, Gowanda and North Collins all have churches and cemeteries. I have one side of the family from that area that are all buried there. There is a large Indian Library in Salamanca that you might call to see what info they have. Good luck with your search. KOP

There has been a Seneca reservation at Cattaraugus for over 200 years, and Quakers have long-standing ties with it, conducting a school there. While the Seneca were victims of a land-grab by speculators around 1840, they were never forcibly removed as were the Cherokee and other American Indians to the west and south. Given the large number of Quaker Hoags in New York and New England, it seems plausible that some of them would have been at Cattaraugus. Tom Hamm >Dear Folks, > >I am helping a friend research his great grandfather, who family >legend has it, was a Seneca Indian with the surname of Hoag. Bob >Henninge's grandfather was a careful family genealogist who >researched his mothers' and fathers' family lines. But late in his >life, he told four close family members that his father really was >not his biological father. The grandfather told the story that his >biological father was a Seneca Indian who was, and this is not a >joke, the milkman. This took place in New Albion and Little Valley, >Cattaraugus County New York and the family name was Lawrence. The >story handed down through the family was when the Indians were about >to be rousted out of their homes, the Quakers would alert the >Indians so they could excape. Some of the Indians did escape, but >some were also taken into the Quaker homes and would be given the >Quakers' surname. In the Lawrence family case, a Seneca Indian by >the name of Hoag was the family's milkman and fathered a child by >Mrs. Lawrence, a son, the grandfather of my friend Bob. > >Has anyone ever heard of the Quakers in New York playing such a role >as this, taking Indians into their homes and giving them their >surnames? Were there Quakers in Cattaraugus County NY? I haven't >been given a time frame but it would be the entire 1800's. > >Thank you for any clues. > >Beth Zaring > > > >==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Swarthmore College is a great resource for that type of info. Mark -----Original Message----- From: marsha moses [mailto:mosesm@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:58 AM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Q-R] Christiana Hundred I am just getting interested in Quakers in Pennsylvania--I am entirely ignorant---going back two generations in my Elliott line takes me to the area that you are talking about below. Can anyone point me to easy and accurate information about Chirstiana Hundred and Chester County? I just want some framework to use to begin my research in that area. Thanks so much for any help that you can give me. Marsha in Wv CGarr34@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 10/20/2004 10:02:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, >QUAKER-ROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: >have Swithin Chandler, b. 24 Jun 1674 in England, emigrated in 1687, d. >abt 1742 in Chester Co, PA. He settled in the Brandywine area and was also >in Christiana Hundred. ..... > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Visit The Quaker Corner - http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers

Dear Folks, I am helping a friend research his great grandfather, who family legend has it, was a Seneca Indian with the surname of Hoag. Bob Henninge's grandfather was a careful family genealogist who researched his mothers' and fathers' family lines. But late in his life, he told four close family members that his father really was not his biological father. The grandfather told the story that his biological father was a Seneca Indian who was, and this is not a joke, the milkman. This took place in New Albion and Little Valley, Cattaraugus County New York and the family name was Lawrence. The story handed down through the family was when the Indians were about to be rousted out of their homes, the Quakers would alert the Indians so they could excape. Some of the Indians did escape, but some were also taken into the Quaker homes and would be given the Quakers' surname. In the Lawrence family case, a Seneca Indian by the name of Hoag was the family's milkman and fathered a child by Mrs. Lawrence, a son, the grandfather of my friend Bob. Has anyone ever heard of the Quakers in New York playing such a role as this, taking Indians into their homes and giving them their surnames? Were there Quakers in Cattaraugus County NY? I haven't been given a time frame but it would be the entire 1800's. Thank you for any clues. Beth Zaring

Mary Jane: Thanks for responding so quickly! The marriage date I have is 6 Mar 1828 in Wilmington, De but that is from another source, could be incorrect. All I have is that Sarah was born c. 1781, 1793/96. Most sources say 1796. Sarah's middle initial was supposed to be "E". I also thought her mother could be Elizabeth. But for some reason, I nixed that. I think that Sarah was married to someone else, but cannot remember. I visited the cemetery at London Grove and could only find Isaac's tombstone. One resource told me they moved to Indiana but their children were all born in MD/PA and my grandparents were also. Isaac was also "disowned" from the Friends as he was married by a minister so I am thinking maybe Sarah was not Quaker. (Their first child was born June 1828 and they were married Mar 1828). Could that have had something to do with it?? Why do you say her birth date does not seem right if he was born in 1777? When was your Sara CHalfant born? Earlier? Also, Do you know why and when you wrote in that Sara married Isaac Pyle "with no proof" ? Do you have the children of William and Betty Chadds Pyle? You have been my only link with this line and I am desperate.... What connection are we? Michelle

Mary Jane: Would you have information on Sarah Chalfant who married Isaac Pyle? Isaac was from London Grove Meeting, Chester Co., PA. Isaac was born 1777 and they were married c. 1800 (don't have my info in front of me). Thanks! Michelle Bartorelli