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Jim, Thank you very much for the starting point!!! Greatly appreciated!! Linda

Jerry Richmond wrote: >I can confirm that the following entries are in the extracted >records of Exeter MM, Berks co,PA > >WORRALL >18 Mar 1777 Benjamin received in membership > 7 May 1779 Benjamin, son of Jonathan & wife, all of Berks co,PA > marries at Robeson MH, Eleanor Morris, dau of > David, decd, & wife of Berks co,PA >26 Feb 1783 Benjamin & wife Eleanor & children Elizabeth & Jane > granted certificate to Bradford MM > >There does not appear to be anything of significance beyond >receipt on this cert at Bradford MM. > Jerry sent essentially the same information to this list in November, 2003, since the question of Hannah Clendenon's parentage arises periodically; I clearly wasn't paying close attention at that time. Dan Treadway replied, saying, in part: This certainly rules out Elinor Morris as a possible mother for Hannah Clendenon, as the marriage is too late. It would seem to rule out this Benjamin as her father, since Hannah is not mentioned among his children in the 1783 certificate. I agree with Dan's assessment about this particular Benjamin Worrall and Eleanor (Elinor) Morris, on both counts. But then, on 02 November 2003, Barclay Richards wrote: Dan and All, From Early Church Records of Delaware County by Launey & Wright, page 168, "26/1/1767. Benjamin Worrall, son of John, dec'd, reported for marrying by a priest to one not a member, drinking to excess and neglecting meetings." Could this Benjamin have married Mary Howard, daughter of John Howard and Elizabeth Perry? This last (from Barclay) gets my juices flowing a bit; this Benjamin Worrall is the son of John (and Hannah Taylor), and brother of Thomas (who m. Lydia Vernon), John, Joshua, Peter, Hannah, and Esther. According to the minute, quoted above, he married out of unity early in 1767; Hannah (Clendenon) was born around 1767; and a Benjamin of the same age as this Benjamin was living next to Isaac and Hannah Clendenon in 1830 in Pennsville (Morgan County, Ohio). Isaac and Hannah Clendenon were clearly members in good standing--witness the many entries about them in the records--but no one seems to have been able, to date, to discover when, and where, they were married, nor who were the parents of Hannah. Is it possible that Hannah Clendenon is Hannah Worrell, Benjamin's daughter, and that Benjamin's family subsequently made the requisite amends and re-joined a meeting somewhere? As to whether this is the same Benjamin who married Mary Howard in 1780, I have no idea. Perhaps their marriage certificate states whether Benjamin were a widower. Best wishes, Lawrence Bouett

Jerry Richmond wrote: >I can confirm that the following entries are in the extracted >records of Exeter MM, Berks co,PA > >WORRALL >18 Mar 1777 Benjamin received in membership > 7 May 1779 Benjamin, son of Jonathan & wife, all of Berks co,PA > marries at Robeson MH, Eleanor Morris, dau of > David, decd, & wife of Berks co,PA >26 Feb 1783 Benjamin & wife Eleanor & children Elizabeth & Jane > granted certificate to Bradford MM > >There does not appear to be anything of significance beyond >receipt on this cert at Bradford MM. > Thanks, Jerry. This is interesting information for several reasons: first, it is unlikely that this Benjamin Worrall is the Benjamin who was the brother of Thomas, both of whom, along with their brothers, Jonathan and Joshua, and sisters Hannah Nuzum and Hannah Worral, were named in the will of their brother, Peter, whose will was proved 05 August 1767 in Chester County, Pennsylvania. Second, it does not explain who is the Benjamin Worrell who is living next to Isaac and Hannah Clendenon in Morgan County, Ohio in 1830, whose age suggests he may be the Benjamin, brother of Peter, above. This is still an area I would like to investigate. Best wishes, Lawrence Bouett

I too have questions about Jacob's family. Enclosed is what I have collected on Jacob and Sarah. See how it jibes with what you have. Do I need to make corrections? Stars indicate that I have more about that individual. Please tell me if you have anything more about their children, etc. I would appreciate hearing from you. I am interested in any Lamb. Billie Lee (Lamb) Smith Family Group J Jacob Lamb and Sarah Stone Jacob Lamb, son of Henry Lamb, was born 9 Sep 1742, Perquimans, NC, moving to New Garden MM in 1760. He was married in Centre, Rowan Co., NC, 14 July 1764 to Sarah Stone, born 28 Dec 1746, daughter of John Stone and Catherine ___. Sarah died 27 Aug 1799, in Guildford Co., NC. Jacob’s will was dated 22 Oct 1800 in Randolph Co., NC., probated later that year. (From “The Quaker Yeoman Quarterly” Vol 3, #4, page 8 John Stone, born ca 1720, m Catherine ___, born 1722 and died 14d 6mo 1800, Guilford Co., NC (Many doubt the accuracy of Bellarts’ work) Chn: 1. Sarah Stone, born 28 Dec 1746, New Garden, Guilford Co. 2. Christiana Stone, b 16 July 1753, Guilford Co, m/1 Reese, m/2 Presnall 3. Hulda Stone, born 6 Mar 1753, Guilford Co. m 27 May 1774, Guilford Co., Benjamin Greene. 4. Salathiel Stone, b 18 Jan 1759; m 21 Aug 1777 New Garden, Susanna Powell ) Chn: 1. John Lamb, born 21 May 1765, Perquimans Co, NC; married #F-2. Miriam Lamb, 1st cousin, born 12 Dec 1762, Pasquotank, NC, d/o Esau Lamb and Elizabeth Newby (Part II) 2. Lydia Lamb, born 16 May 1767, Perquimans Co., NC; married 29 April 1797, Guilford Co., NC, to John Harris . *3. Thomas E. Lamb (1), born 11 Feb 1770 4. Joseph Lamb, b ca 1771, Guilford Co., NC 5. Jacob Lamb, Jr., born 20 Jan 1773; m/1 Rachel ___; m/2 Foy (Lamb) Smith *6. Catherine Lamb, born 8 June 1774, Randolph Co. NC 7. Thomas Lamb (2), born 28 Dec 1777 *8. Huldah Lamb, born 9 Mar 1778, Randolph Co, NC *9. Isaac Lamb 10. Sarah Lamb, born 1784 *11. Rebecca Lamb, born 19 April 1786, Perq. Co 12. Christiana Lamb, born 11 Mar 1788, Perq. Co, NC; m 24 Oct 1807, Jesse Brewer, b ca 1788 J-8. Huldah Lamb Huldah Lamb, daughter of Jacob Lamb and Sarah Stone, was born 9 Mar 1778, in Randolph Co., NC. She was married 16 Mar 1794, in Center MM, Randolph Co., to Nathan (Nathaniel) Pearson, who was born 28 Oct 1770, Perquimans Co., NC, son of Jonathan Pearson (1) and Sarah (Bogue) Bundy. (See Pearson family, Part VIII) Hulda and Nathan left Randolph Co., and were received 3 Aug 1816 at Whitewater MM, Wayne Co., IN. Shortly after they went to Henry Co., IN, joining the Spiceland MM. He died 13 Nov 1845; she died 24 Mar 1864, both in Henry Co. Chn: *1. Jonathan Pearson, born about 1795, NC. 2. Exum Pearson, born about 1800; m 1822 to #1,778. Elizabeth Ratliff, daughter of Richard Ratliff and Elizabeth Pearson (See Ratliff Fam, Part VIII) . 3. Zeno Pearson, born before Dec 1818 4. Sarah Pearson, born 10 Sep 1799; married 1820, David Palmer 5. William Pearson, born before Dec 1818 6. Catherine Pearson, born 12 Oct 1806; married Josiah Draper 7. Hulda Pearson, born 1 Mar 1809; married Joshua Draper *9. Rhoda Pearson, born 3 Mar 1814; married 1834 J-1. Joseph Small (See Small Family, IV), son of Jesse Small and Elizabeth Draper 10. Joseph Pearson, born 7 Nov 1816 11. Nathan Pearson, born 2 Mar 1819 12. Zimri Pearson, born 4 Mar 1821 On Saturday, November 20, 2004, at 12:16 PM, Jeobowman@cs.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/20/2004 1:08:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, > jroos@baldwin-telecom.net writes: > >> Jacob Lamb's will was probated in November 1800 in Randolph Co., NC. >> He >> never >> lived in Indiana, but his daughter Catherine moved to Indiana with her >> husband >> Exum Elliott in 1807. >> > Thanks Joy for this info. I have not worked on the Lamb line for > several > years. I had a death date for Jacob (in NC) of 1800, but didn't > have--or at > least hadn't noted--the source. I'd be interested in getting a > transcription of > the will. Does it name all his children? When I started trying to > back-track > my information, I found there were 2 listings for "Jacob & Sarah Lamb" > in the > b. & d. records for Centre Meeting in Guilford Co, NC. There are no > dates or > info about Jacob or Sarah in the first listing--which lists 5 > children--John, > Lydia, Thomas, Jacob, & Catherine. Just below that is listed (the > same? > another?) Jacob & Sarah Lamb with 2 daughters--Rebecca & Christian. > The 2nd > listing gives a 1799 d. date for Sarah. Bellarts' info that Linda > Pearson just > sent lists all 7 of these children, plus Huldah as being the children > of Jacob & > Sarah Stone Lamb. This is possible, but considering the gap in ages > of the 2 > youngest from the older children, it seems possible to me that there > could > have been another Jacob & Sarah Lamb. There must be some other > source--maybe it > is his will and they are all listed in it. I'm going to send this to > the QR > line also knowing that many heads are better than one or two! Glad to > hear > from you anytime, Joy. > > Joyce > > Joyce Overman Bowman > Indianapolis, IN > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: > QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com > The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE. > > > Billie Lee Smith PO Box 476 Bucklin KS 67834 620-826-3274 billieleesmith@mac.com

This family is also listed in records as "Stevens" and variations thereof (in-laws to me). I noticed on www.rootsweb.com that a Samuel Stevens and Elizabeth Lewis are listed as his parents - as a starting point. -------Original Message------- From: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Date: 11/21/04 04:45:11 To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Q-R] Quaker Stephens in Berks Co. PA Hello, Can anyone out there help me with my Quaker Stephens family. I am stuck at ggg grand David Stephens. I have tracked him from Morgan County, Ohio back to Berks county, PA. David was born 1793 in Robeson township. He married in 1829. I have found that his wife Rebecca was a Dickinson also of Berks County. Her Dickinson family I have found much on, but the Stephens, I am stuck. I have found bits and pieces of Stephens mentioned in records, but can yet to make a connection. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Linda ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE. .

I am looking for children of Jonathan Kindley who was born 9-28-1808 in Ohio, son of John Kindley and "Betty" Wilson. John married 1) to Hannah Pickett/Piggott6-23-1831 Chester MM, Wayne Co, IN The child of this marriage (that I know of) is my husband's greatgreatgrandmother Elizabeth born 1832. Elizabeth's birth year is 1832 on her grave stone, census sometimes equals 1834 or 1836. Apparently Hannah died 1-18-1836 (when she and daughter received certification from Milford, this was date of last information mentioning her that I have gratefully received from a kind list member) and 4-30-1837 when Jonathan married Alice T. Brown (found in Wayne Co. marriage records). On 6-24-1837 Jonathan was disowned at the Milford meeting for marrying contrary to discipline. Alice would appear to have died before the marriage below. Jonathan married Margaret Briley 9-9-1841 Montgomery Co, OH. children that appear in the 1850 and 1860 census would seem to be all from Margaret. The ones born OH were probably born in Preble Co OH as Jonathan was in Preble Co, OH in 1840 census and Wayne Co, IN in 1850 and 1860. Children below: Sarah 1842/43 OH James W. 1845 OH John C. 1846-49 OH Guley E. 1848-51 OH Laura C 1853 IN Mortitia M. 1856 IN Seth C. 1859 IN One person reports Jonathan as having died in 1868 so there could be other children of Margaret's after Seth. If anyone has information on other children, particularly from Hannah, or any other information on this family, I would be grateful. Thanks. Karen (in california)

I have been researching the Stacey family for several years now and will attempt to answer some of your questions.......... you wrote>> Were Robert and Mahlon related?<< Yes ....... Mahlon (1638 - 1704), Thomas & Robert are brothers, they also have a sister Anne who married Godfrey Watkinson, who was Vicar of Clowne. you wrote>> There is another Mary Stacy who married John Renshawe in 1686 Burlington, NJ according to the Quaker records.Did Robert have a daughter named Mary ?<< In my opinion this is still up for debate.......... researchers on line do tend to claim that she is the daughter of Robert ...and have her listed as being born ca. 1659........ but I have not been able to find any proof of this so far....... From the Balby Monthly Meeting Records we can prove that Robert had the following children: Anne b. 7th day of the 7th month 1654 John b. 20th day of the 8th month 1656 Judith b. 12th day of the 5th month 1660 Eliz b. 25th day of the 8th month 1662 Ellen b. 21st day of the 4th month 1666 .......... Looking at these dates, of course it would be possible that she was born sometime between John and Judith, but the question that I find myself asking is why, since all the other's records are here wouldn't her's also be there? ............... Of course also according to researchers, the Will of Robert Stacy,Tanner of Philadelphia dated Nov 1699, probated 18 Oct 1701, names dau. Mary ............ I have not been able to see this will yet. IF he names her as dau Mary Renshawe, then of course that would be proof, but as I said I have not been able to see this Will yet..... .............and knowing that......... In NJ there was a Henry Stacey who had an heir ......... Mary Stacey, she is mentioned as such in my Samuel Barker's document dated June 23, 1685. This Henry is said by researchers to be the son of Robert......... which therefore, could mean that his "heir" Mary, could have been his wife? And actually the daughter in law of Robert, NOT the daughter. ........... I also have another interest in this couple, since my Samuel's son, John married Mary Renshawe on 12 May 1697 Whitwell Parish. I've speculated that this John Renshawe might be related to her. ........ ummm, criminy, I've got tons of documents piled here that I haven't touched since my friend, whom I was working on this with died in May, this is the first that I've been able to bring myself to touch them since his death. I know there are alot more clues buried in this pile. If you'd like to continue this please say the word and I'm happy to help with what I can. Good Luck, Pati > There is another Mary Stacy who married John Renshawe in 1686 Burlington, > NJ according to the Quaker records. > > I've been looking for this Mary's connection to the Stacy family. > > Both the Stacy's and this John Renshaw have connections to Derbyshire, > possible Eckington, England. > > Robert Stacy is indexed in the Court Records 1633-1694 Eckington as well as > John, Robert, and Thomas Renshaw. > > John Renshawe sold land to John Shinn in 1685. John Shinn married Ellen > Stacy, daughter of Robert Stacy. > > Were Robert and Mahlon related? Did Robert have a daughter named Mary ? > > Any help or ideas about Mary Stacy would be greatly appreciated! > > thanks >

Hello, Can anyone out there help me with my Quaker Stephens family. I am stuck at ggg grand David Stephens. I have tracked him from Morgan County, Ohio back to Berks county, PA. David was born 1793 in Robeson township. He married in 1829. I have found that his wife Rebecca was a Dickinson also of Berks County. Her Dickinson family I have found much on, but the Stephens, I am stuck. I have found bits and pieces of Stephens mentioned in records, but can yet to make a connection. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Linda

Q-Rers: My response to a query this week on GenForum -- " a record of Barnabas Coffin owning a section of land in New Farmington, IN in the year 1816. (Quaker-1816)" "Barnabas Coffin, Indiana: There are possibly two laterals from my line of "Barnabas & Phebe (Marshall)Coffin, Nantucket, MA>Guilford Co., NC" for Barnabas is a family name! "1) SON, Barnabas Coffin m. Sarah Wheeler dr of John. (No other information published in "The Coffin Family" edited by Louis Coffin, NHA; page 274. *Nothing more, not even a number; however you might check Quaker Records at New Garden MM and/or at Deep River MM in Guilford Co., NC.)" "2) GRANDSON, Barnabas Coffin s/o Joseph & Hannah (Ballinger) Coffin, md. Miriam Worth dr of David & Eunice 12/29/1829; see "The Coffin Family" page 285 and page 300. Quaker records may be obtained from Deep River MM, Guilford Co., IN and Springfield MM, Wayne Co., IN." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I have found this: in "COFFIN FAMILY NEWWSLETTER", August 1997, Volume XIII, No. 3, Whole No 51: "Barnabas Coffin, Jr. and his two wives": Louis Coffin, page 274, had Barnabas, son of Barnabas and Phebe (Marshall) Coffin and his wife Sarah Wheeler but had no birth or dates and no family. It was stated by Editor, David P. Coffin in his article that there was a database of 6-generations; and he went on to write that "Many of our Coffins in the mid-west are descended from the line of William and Priscilla of North Carolina, grandparents of this Barnabas Junior." Others who migrated to Indiana: 1) My own GGG-Grandparents, Himelius & Priscilla (Coffin) Mendenhall as well as 2) Hannah Coffin dr Barnabas & Phebe md. Joseoh C. Hitchcock, who migrated to Indiana, are descendents of Barnabas & Phebe. Thanks for any help :-) Violet Moore Guy

I can confirm that the following entries are in the extracted records of Exeter MM, Berks co,PA WORRALL 18 Mar 1777 Benjamin received in membership 7 May 1779 Benjamin, son of Jonathan & wife, all of Berks co,PA marries at Robeson MH, Eleanor Morris, dau of David, decd, & wife of Berks co,PA 26 Feb 1783 Benjamin & wife Eleanor & children Elizabeth & Jane granted certificate to Bradford MM There does not appear to be anything of significance beyond receipt on this cert at Bradford MM. Regards, Jerry Richmond You are cordially invited to visit "The Quaker Collection" http://home.sprynet.com/~jrichmon/qkrcoll.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Bouett" <lbouett@pacbell.net> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 1:51 PM Subject: [Q-R] Isaac and Hannah Clendenon--a speculation > I am a direct descendant of Isaac Clendenon (1768-1834) and his wife, > Hannah. The parentage of Isaac Clendenon is known, as is much about his > descendants. It is also true that his wife was named Hannah, but there > is considerable doubt about her parentage--even her surname. > > It is widely accepted--erroneously, in my opinion--that she was Hannah > Worrall, a daughter of Thomas Worrall and Lydia Vernon. I accept that > Hannah, the daughter of Thomas Worrall and Lydia Vernon, did not marry > Isaac Clendenon. But who was Isaac's wife? > > Isaac and Hannah Clendenon were living in Pennsville, Penn Township, > Morgan County, Ohio, during the 1830 US Federal Census. Both were in > their 60's at the time, and both Isaac and Hannah died in Pennsville: > Isaac at age 66 in 1834 and Hannah at age 90 in 1857 (from Hinshaw). > What is interesting is that the very next household to Isaac and Hannah > in 1830 is that of 'Benjamin Worrell', whose age is given as 80-90 > years. Next to him is 'Thomas Worrell', whose age is given as 20-30 years. > > I have no idea who the younger Thomas Worrell is; but Thomas Worrell, > the one who married Lydia Vernon, and who, together, have long been > credited as the parents of Hannah, the wife of Isaac Clendenon, had a > brother, Benjamin, whose age in 1830 would have been about 87. > > One further thing: in the 1850 US Federal Census, Hannah Clendenon was > still living in Pennsville, Ohio, in the household of her son, Isaac. > She was 83 years old. > > Now, I do not propose to make any particular connection here, except to > point to the obvious fact that those living near a family in a census > are frequently relatives, but consider this: (1) genealogy is replete > with stories--some true, and others not; (2) many stories contain a > grain of truth, however changed over time; and (3) investigations must > begin somewhere ... :-) > > So, all of this, to me, begs some questions: > > 1. What if Hannah Clendenon's maiden name really was Worrell/Worrall? > > 2. What if she were the daughter, not of Thomas Worrell/Worrall, but of > his brother, Benjamin? > > 3. Does anyone have any verifiable information about the marriage and > family of Benjamin Worrall? > > I have unconfirmed information that Benjamin married Elinor Morris ca. > 1766 in Delaware County, Pennsylvania. This information should be in > the minutes of one of the Quaker meetings of the time, perhaps Exeter or > Chester MM. I have no information whatever about their family, and my > own data are inconveniently in storage at the moment, due to a move. > (The problem, of course, is that my interest in genealogy is not packed > away, like my data!) > > I hope someone can shed some verifiable light on this continuing puzzle. > > Best wishes, > Lawrence Bouett > San Diego, California > > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

In correspondence that I saw years ago, the described descendancy of Henry Lamb, the Glovemaker, from Col. Joshua Lamb, as descibed by James Bellarts, was ultimately regarded as FAKELORE by knowledgeable Lamb reseachers and has certainly never been proven. The Roxbury descendancy is not carried beyond Joshua Lamb Jr in James Savage's dictionary. Up until his death in the early 1990's Bellarts was the Publisher of the "Quaker Yeoman" and was highly regared in some circles. However the late Cheska Wheatly, former Administrator of the Q-R List had little but contempt for Bellarts work, particularly for the bogus & erroneous material on the Clayton Line published in the cited book. At one point Cheska remarked that she wished the LDS would burn tke microfilm of Bellarts book, so that these questionable descents would not continue in circulation. Regards, Jerry Richmond You are cordially invited to visit "The Quaker Collection" http://home.sprynet.com/~jrichmon/qkrcoll.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <LindaLpearson@aol.com> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [Q-R]ancestors of Jacob Lamb > > > > This comes from Fact, Fiction, Folklore, and Fakelore by James Bellarts > > Colonel Joshua Lamb, born Sept. 27, 1642, Roxbury, Suffolk Co., Mass., > served as a Colonel in King Phillip's war; married (possibly second marriage) Mary > Alcock, born August 15, 1652, Boston, Mass, died October 9, 1700, Roxbury, > Suffolk Co., Mass, daughter of Dr. John and Sarah Palsgrave Alcock. He was > granted "the whole island of Roanoke" by Sir William Berkeley April 17, 1676. > <snip,snip>

In a message dated 11/20/2004 1:08:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, jroos@baldwin-telecom.net writes: > Jacob Lamb's will was probated in November 1800 in Randolph Co., NC. He > never > lived in Indiana, but his daughter Catherine moved to Indiana with her > husband > Exum Elliott in 1807. > Thanks Joy for this info. I have not worked on the Lamb line for several years. I had a death date for Jacob (in NC) of 1800, but didn't have--or at least hadn't noted--the source. I'd be interested in getting a transcription of the will. Does it name all his children? When I started trying to back-track my information, I found there were 2 listings for "Jacob & Sarah Lamb" in the b. & d. records for Centre Meeting in Guilford Co, NC. There are no dates or info about Jacob or Sarah in the first listing--which lists 5 children--John, Lydia, Thomas, Jacob, & Catherine. Just below that is listed (the same? another?) Jacob & Sarah Lamb with 2 daughters--Rebecca & Christian. The 2nd listing gives a 1799 d. date for Sarah. Bellarts' info that Linda Pearson just sent lists all 7 of these children, plus Huldah as being the children of Jacob & Sarah Stone Lamb. This is possible, but considering the gap in ages of the 2 youngest from the older children, it seems possible to me that there could have been another Jacob & Sarah Lamb. There must be some other source--maybe it is his will and they are all listed in it. I'm going to send this to the QR line also knowing that many heads are better than one or two! Glad to hear from you anytime, Joy. Joyce Joyce Overman Bowman Indianapolis, IN

Yes, they will stick over time....I have the same problem. What I have done is to scan the photo's and articles on to the computer and save on the hard drive as well as make several backups on cd's or dvds. This way they don't deteriorate. Hope this is helpful. Ruthann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Buckingham" <a.d.buckingham@verizon.net> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:39 PM Subject: [Q-R] Storing Old Photos, etc. > Hello All, > > > > First, I apologize to those who may receive this more than once because I > am > cross-posting to get the best answers. I have many old photos and > newspaper > clippings from the 1800's and early 1900's which have been passed down > stored in shoe boxes and the like. I was thinking of storing them in > 3-ring > binders inside of Avery page protectors. I will not be pasting or taping > them, just placing them in loose. I am concerned that the page protectors > may stick to the faces of the pictures and possibly damage them. Does > anyone know if this is the case? Thanks. > > > > Alan Buckingham > > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Alan, the advice you have received so far seems excellent to me, but for additional information on this issue, you also might try subscribing to another Rootsweb mailing listserv called "Vintage-Photos-L." You can get subscribing information on it from the Rootsweb listserv website (where you subscribed to Quaker-Roots-L). The level of expertise on the Vintage Photos list seems quite high to me. It is not generally as active a list as this one, but the responses to questions are prompt and usually expert. Regards, Tom Miller (Thomas Cook Miller) In a message dated 11/19/2004 9:24:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, a.d.buckingham@verizon.net writes: > Hello All, > > > > I have received an overwhelming response to my plea for information about > storing old photos. It will take me time to go through all of the responses > and rather than try to reply to each and every one I want to just give a > public thanks for all the great help! I have received some great > information. Again, THANK YOU everyone! > > > > Alan Buckingham >

Researching Valentine Jenkins b. 1730, wife Mercy, "possible" father of Margaret Jenkins of the Oblong M. M. Dutchess Co NY, Margaret was disowned in 1788/89 for her marriage to Samuel West a non-Quaker. She was reinstated in 1798 by the Danby M. M. while she was living in Peru, NY. Samuel West and Valentine, Jr show up in St. Albans Chrittenden Co VT in 1790. By 1792 Samuel is in Peru, NY. Valentine Jr appears to have stayed in Middle Hero VT. I am looking for Valentine Sr's daughters. Possibly another dau. m. William Barber West named Abigail. Wm. and Samuel appear to be connected as they buy land next to each other in Peru NY in 1792, Wm's land later sold to David Buck. Wm. still visits Samuel or maybe David for Wm's 2 sons meet and marry David's 2 daughters. Again they might be related. Living next door to George B. West, son of Wm. B. West is Simeon Jenkins and his son Jedediah, Simeon is nephew of Valentine Jenkins. William has a son named John V. West (does the V. stand for Valentine or Voorhees?...Voorhees being the maiden name of Simeon's grandmother). Valentine does have a dau. named Susanna who m. Richard Robotham I have Valentine's lineage back but need to "Prove" Margaret is his dau. Fran West Rockford, MI

I am a direct descendant of Isaac Clendenon (1768-1834) and his wife, Hannah. The parentage of Isaac Clendenon is known, as is much about his descendants. It is also true that his wife was named Hannah, but there is considerable doubt about her parentage--even her surname. It is widely accepted--erroneously, in my opinion--that she was Hannah Worrall, a daughter of Thomas Worrall and Lydia Vernon. I accept that Hannah, the daughter of Thomas Worrall and Lydia Vernon, did not marry Isaac Clendenon. But who was Isaac's wife? Isaac and Hannah Clendenon were living in Pennsville, Penn Township, Morgan County, Ohio, during the 1830 US Federal Census. Both were in their 60's at the time, and both Isaac and Hannah died in Pennsville: Isaac at age 66 in 1834 and Hannah at age 90 in 1857 (from Hinshaw). What is interesting is that the very next household to Isaac and Hannah in 1830 is that of 'Benjamin Worrell', whose age is given as 80-90 years. Next to him is 'Thomas Worrell', whose age is given as 20-30 years. I have no idea who the younger Thomas Worrell is; but Thomas Worrell, the one who married Lydia Vernon, and who, together, have long been credited as the parents of Hannah, the wife of Isaac Clendenon, had a brother, Benjamin, whose age in 1830 would have been about 87. One further thing: in the 1850 US Federal Census, Hannah Clendenon was still living in Pennsville, Ohio, in the household of her son, Isaac. She was 83 years old. Now, I do not propose to make any particular connection here, except to point to the obvious fact that those living near a family in a census are frequently relatives, but consider this: (1) genealogy is replete with stories--some true, and others not; (2) many stories contain a grain of truth, however changed over time; and (3) investigations must begin somewhere ... :-) So, all of this, to me, begs some questions: 1. What if Hannah Clendenon's maiden name really was Worrell/Worrall? 2. What if she were the daughter, not of Thomas Worrell/Worrall, but of his brother, Benjamin? 3. Does anyone have any verifiable information about the marriage and family of Benjamin Worrall? I have unconfirmed information that Benjamin married Elinor Morris ca. 1766 in Delaware County, Pennsylvania. This information should be in the minutes of one of the Quaker meetings of the time, perhaps Exeter or Chester MM. I have no information whatever about their family, and my own data are inconveniently in storage at the moment, due to a move. (The problem, of course, is that my interest in genealogy is not packed away, like my data!) I hope someone can shed some verifiable light on this continuing puzzle. Best wishes, Lawrence Bouett San Diego, California

I have a Family Group Sheet on this individual in the Quaker Collection at http://home.sprynet.com/~jrichmon/lamb0051.htm As noted there, his wife Sarah Stone died in NC in 1799. As noted on the FGS, he apparently accompanied his married children to Indiana in about 1810. He was the subject of the Charity of Duck Creek MM, Henry co,IN in 1831 as a very old man, organized by Mrs Christiana (Stone) Reese Presnall, his late wife's sister. I have seen nothing to indicate he served in the Revolutionary War. In North Carolina he was a member of Center MM, Guilford co,NC. Their early records have been lost. Regards, Jerry Richmond You are cordially invited to visit "The Quaker Collection" http://home.sprynet.com/~jrichmon/qkrcoll.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <MsJudi756@aol.com> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:07 PM Subject: [Q-R] jacob Lamb > I am researching Jacob Lamb 1742-1806 spouse Sarah Stone- Wayne Co. IN. > quakers. I am interested in his military records if he has one. Revolutionary > war. His parents were Henry and Elizabeth Henley Lamb. Does anyone have any info > on this Lamb family? > _msjudi756@aol.com_ > (mailto:msjudi756@aol.com) > > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

There is another Mary Stacy who married John Renshawe in 1686 Burlington, NJ according to the Quaker records. I've been looking for this Mary's connection to the Stacy family. Both the Stacy's and this John Renshaw have connections to Derbyshire, possible Eckington, England. Robert Stacy is indexed in the Court Records 1633-1694 Eckington as well as John, Robert, and Thomas Renshaw. John Renshawe sold land to John Shinn in 1685. John Shinn married Ellen Stacy, daughter of Robert Stacy. Were Robert and Mahlon related? Did Robert have a daughter named Mary ? Any help or ideas about Mary Stacy would be greatly appreciated! thanks >My records have Reuben Pownall and Mary Stacy having 1 daughter, Eleanor, >who married John Neal Jr. The source was "The Welcome Claimants Proved, >Disproved and Doubtful" page 427. > >Mary > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "DAVID BROWN" <dbrown544@prodigy.net> >To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:29 PM >Subject: [Q-R] Reuben Pownall m. Mary Stacy > > > > Does anyone happen to know if Reuben Pownall and Mary Stacy had children? >I believe they married in 1699/1700 in New Jersey, but I can find no >information on descendants of this couple. Mary Stacy was a daughter of >Mahlon Stacy and Rebecca Ely. > > > > Thanks in advance for your assistance. > > > > David

I have very great grandmother Mercy Lamb who married it CT in the 18th century to a T.Keene and only Joseph shows up as a possible ancestor from her kids. ----- Original Message ----- From: <LindaLpearson@aol.com> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 20:51 Subject: Re: [Q-R]ancestors of Jacob Lamb This comes from Fact, Fiction, Folklore, and Fakelore by James Bellarts Colonel Joshua Lamb, born Sept. 27, 1642, Roxbury, Suffolk Co., Mass., served as a Colonel in King Phillip's war; married (possibly second marriage) Mary Alcock, born August 15, 1652, Boston, Mass, died October 9, 1700, Roxbury, Suffolk Co., Mass, daughter of Dr. John and Sarah Palsgrave Alcock. He was granted "the whole island of Roanoke" by Sir William Berkeley April 17, 1676. In this grant he is referred to as "Marchant Joshua Lamb of Roxbury, County of Suffolk in New England". He died in Perquimans Co., NC, September 23, 1690. His widow Mary Lamb returned to Roxbury in 1690 where she signed some papers and called herself of said town. Since Joshua Lamb died intestate, the only records of his children are in Roxbury, Mass, Vital Records and Genealogical Disctionary of the First Settlers of New England, by James Savage. His children: Colonel Joshua Lamb, Jr. (below) Dorothy Lamb, baptized 04 mo-08-1679, m. Rev. Dudley Woolbridge George Lamb, baptized 01 mo-27-1681 John Lamb, b. april-22-1683; died shortly after birth Elizabeth Lamb, b. Mar-02-1682/3; d. Jun-09-1683 John Lamb, b. Feb.-03-1685; d. Jun-16-1685 Samuel Lamb, b. Apr-09-1686 Thomas Lamb, b. Mar-23-1688/9 Colonel Joshua Lamb, Jr., baptized 01 mo-07-1674/75, Roxbury, Suffolk Co., Mass; died Jul-20-1754; married (possible second marriage) Oct-01-1702, Susanna Cary, b. 1672, Roxbury, Suffolk Co., Mass. Their children: William Lamb Henry Lamb (below) Joshua Lamb III, b. Jul-14-1703, according to The Lamb Family in Mass 1630-1939, by R. G. Albion. In July 1722 Joshua Lamb III fell from the roof of the dormitory at Harvard College, where he was a senior, and was killed. Cotton Mather, the celebrated divine, preached a sermon "upon the vain presumption of living and thriving in the world - produced by the premature and much lamented death of Mr. Joshua Lamb". Henry Lamb, (known as the glove maker), b. 1697; d. 02 mo-10-1761, Rowan Co., NC. The first record of Henry Lamb in NC is found in Hathaway's North Carolina Historical and Genealogical Register, where on page 147 it states in the July 1715 Court Notes for Chowan Co., NC, "Patrick Laughgly proves right for importation of 13 people" including Thomas and Henry Lamb. It should be noted that "importation" does not necessarily mean from England. It could mean from another colony. Henry Lamb and his family were received 02 mo-04-1739, from Nansemond Monthly Meeting, VA, by Perquimans Monthly Meeting, Perquimans Co., NC (reference: Hinshaw, Volume 1, page 57). Henry Lamb, together with his sons Joseph, Jacob, and Thomas Lamb were recieved on certificate from Perquimans Monthly Meeting, Perquimans Co., NC, by New Garden Monthly Meeting, Guilford Co., NC, 11 mo-29-1760 (reference: Hinshaw, Volume 1, page 556). Henry Lamb married first, Chowan Co., NC, Gulielma (unknown). He married second February 10, 1739, Elizabeth (possibly Henley) b. 1701, rowan Co., NC; d. 09 mo-13-1774, under Center Monthly Meeting, Rowan Co., NC. The children of Henry Lamb by his first wife Gulielma (reference: Hinshaw, Volume1, page 11): Thomas Lamb, b. 1721, d. Rowan Co., NC, married 09 mo-06-1746, Sarah Moore, Perquimans Monthly Meeting, Perquimans Co., NC Mary Lamb, b. 1724, Nansemond Co., VA, d. after 1779; m. 09 mo-02-1748, at Henry Lamb's house per minutes of Perquimans Monthly Meeting, Perquimans Co., NC, Joseph Sanders, son of Benjamin and Ann Sanders William Lamb, b. 1728, Nansemond Co., VA, m. Miriam Newby, b. 1726, daughter of Samuel and Elizabeth Newby. The will of William Lamb was probated April 1758. Isaac Lamb, b. 1730, d. 1782, Perquimans Co., NC, will probated Jan 1782, m. 02 mo-18-1756, Old Neck Meeting House, Perquimans Co., NC, Elizabeth Nixon, b. 1731/32, d. Jul-26-2796, Perquimans Co., NC, daughter of Phineas and Mary Nixon. The probable children of Henry and Elizabeth Lamb: Joseph Lamb, b. c1744, m. 07 mo-23-1761, New Garden Monthly Meeting, Guilford Co., NC, Frances Beeson, b. 12 mo-10, 1744/45, daughter of Benjamin and Elizabeth Beeson. Elizabeth Lamb, b. c1741, m. 06 mo-07-1761, New Garden Monthly Meeting, guilford Co., NC, Samuel Ozburn, son of Matthew Osborn Bethia Lamb, b. c1739, m. 07 mo-09-1761, New Garden Monthly Meeting, Guilford Co., NC, Benjamin Beeson, b. 02 mo-09-1741, son of Benjamin and Elizabeth Beeson. Jacob Lamb, b 1743, will probated 1806, Randloph Co., NC, m. 06 mo-14-1764, New Garden Monthly Meeting, Guilford Co., NC, Sarah Stone, b. 12 mo-28-1746, daughter of John and Catherine Stone. Their children: John Lamb, b. 05-01-1765 (05-21-1765?) Lydia Lamb, b. 05 mo-16-1767 Thomas Lamb, b. 02 mo-11-1771; m. Hannah Lewis Jacob Lamb, b. 01 mo-20-1773 Catherine Lamb, b. 06mo-08-1774, d. 02 mo-26-1859, Wayne Co., IN, m. 03 mo-19, 1788, Center Monthly Meeting, Guilford Co., NC, as his second wife, Exum Elliott, b. 04 mo-10-1765, Perquimans Co., NC, d. 10 mo-08-1841, Wayne Co. IN, son of Jacob and Zilpha Elliott. Huldah Lamb, b. 09 mo-25-1778, Guilford Co., NC, d. Mar-24-1864, Henry Co., IN, m. 03 mo-16-1794, Center Monthly Meeting, Randolph Co., NC, Nathan Pearson. They removed to Wayne Co., IN, where they were received by Whitewater Monthly Meeting 08 mo-03-1816. Rebecca Lamb, b. 04 mo-19-1786, m. first Jun-12-1808, Surry Co., NC, Joseph Ratliff, b. 08 mo-03-1788, Randolph Co., NC, d. 04 mo-12-1837, Clear Springs Meeting, IN. Rebecca Lamb m. second (as his second wife) Nov-27-1844, Duck Creek Monthly Meeting, Henry Co., IN, Stephen Macy, son of Enoch and Anna Macy, b. 12 mo-04-1778, New Garden, Guilford Co., NC, d. 12 mo-02-1867, Richmond, Randolph Co., IN. Christian Lamb, b. 03 mo-11-1788. Linda, MS, USA ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE.