>From: SHASTA4737@aol.com >Reply-To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [Q-R] Moormans >Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 16:04:41 EST > >Hi Dale, > >There is research about the Moorman and Reynolds' families (and I think the >Suzannah Reynolds who married Andrew Moorman) located on this site. There >is a >lot of research here also on the Clarks who married into this family: > >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr/ > > >Sincerely, > >Susan E. Davis > > > > >==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

In a message dated 12/1/2004 2:36:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, dharguess@coastline.edu writes: > Is anyone out there researching the Moorman family? I am trying to find > out if Andrew Moorman married a Suzannah Reynolds. I just found an Andrew Moorman, 1689-1756 (s/o Thomas & Elizabeth Macajah Clark Moorman) who married Susannah (surname not given). Is this the one you are looking for. Apparently she died and he married again, to Sarah Clark. Apparently the person who complied this info didn't know Susannah surname--and I guess that was your original question. Joyce

In a message dated 12/1/2004 2:36:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, dharguess@coastline.edu writes: > I am trying to find > out if Andrew Moorman married a Suzannah Reynolds. What is the time frame and general location? I have some Moorman info, though not much recent info. Joyce

Have you looked in any of the Hinshaw books? I recognize all of these names and am even related to some of them. Most genealogical libraries have copies of this series of books. If you don't have access let me know and I will look them up for you this weekend when I am at my library. Dale -----Original Message----- From: Linda Damrell [mailto:nutmeg_1952@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:46 PM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Q-R] Quaker Ancestors I am hoping someone will have information on one of my Quaker ancestors. They are as follows: William Rees b. 1736 in PA d. 1827 PA James Richard Haworth b. 1642/45 c. 1684 Isabel Radcliffe Haworth Ormerod b. 1641/46 d. 1707 Richard Wood b. 1691 VA d. 1725 VA William Clayton Jr. b. 1625 England d. 1689 PA William Beals b. 1625 England d. PA Jophn Jacob Beals b. 1650/60 I would appreciate any information on any of these individuals. ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Need assistance? Please contact:Quaker-Roots-L-Admin@RootsWeb.com List Manager for Quaker-Roots-L and Quaker-Roots-D Now with over 750 subscribers

I am hoping someone will have information on one of my Quaker ancestors. They are as follows: William Rees b. 1736 in PA d. 1827 PA James Richard Haworth b. 1642/45 c. 1684 Isabel Radcliffe Haworth Ormerod b. 1641/46 d. 1707 Richard Wood b. 1691 VA d. 1725 VA William Clayton Jr. b. 1625 England d. 1689 PA William Beals b. 1625 England d. PA Jophn Jacob Beals b. 1650/60 I would appreciate any information on any of these individuals.

This is all very interesting. Especially, since I am looking at a marriage that probably took place in Anson County. I am trying to confirm the marriage of a Rachel Moorman to a James Adcock who I have found in land records as owning a ferry on the Pee Dee River that was purchased from a Moorman. This is a round about way to find out more about the Adcocks. Thanks, Dale -----Original Message----- From: SHASTA4737@aol.com [mailto:SHASTA4737@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:16 PM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Q-R] Moormans I found a page with some of the research that discusses Andrew Moorman and Suzannah. The resarchers state that her maiden name may have been Reynolds. There is more discussion there: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr/reports/andrew1689.txt Sincerely, Susan E. Davis ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Hi! Looking for information on the family of James Crumley, perhaps of Greene Co., OH, and his association with any families with the surname Mooney (Moony, Money). James' father may have been William Crumley. Any help appreciated, Donna M. Wolf

Hi! Looking for information on the parents/siblings and descendants of Joseph Mooney and Elizabeth Taylor who were married around 1768 in New Castle Co., Delaware. Any help appreciated, Donna M. Wolf

Thank you so much. -----Original Message----- From: SHASTA4737@aol.com [mailto:SHASTA4737@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:05 PM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Q-R] Moormans Hi Dale, There is research about the Moorman and Reynolds' families (and I think the Suzannah Reynolds who married Andrew Moorman) located on this site. There is a lot of research here also on the Clarks who married into this family: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr/ Sincerely, Susan E. Davis ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Veeery interesting. I have Ballard's too. I will add this to my stuff as well. Dale -----Original Message----- From: Mark E. Dixon [mailto:mark.dixon@att.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:54 PM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Q-R] Moormans My ancestors, William Ballard (1715-1794) and his wife, Mary Ann Byrum (1710-1765), had a son, Moorman Ballard (1746/7-1821) who, ironically, married a Martha Moorman. William and Mary Ann lived in Bedford County, Va. Probably there were Moormans in the Ballard tree, but I don't know where. I'd like to know more about this family if anyone has a clue. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Harguess" <dharguess@coastline.edu> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 2:31 PM Subject: [Q-R] Moormans > Is anyone out there researching the Moorman family? I am trying to find > out if Andrew Moorman married a Suzannah Reynolds. > > Dale in Southern California > > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Need assistance? Please contact:Quaker-Roots-L-Admin@RootsWeb.com > List Manager for Quaker-Roots-L and Quaker-Roots-D > Now with over 750 subscribers > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE.

Thanks, I'll add this to what I am trying to compile. Maybe if I get enough information I will be able to put it all together somehow. -----Original Message----- From: Jeobowman@cs.com [mailto:Jeobowman@cs.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:38 PM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Q-R] Moormans In a message dated 12/1/2004 2:36:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, dharguess@coastline.edu writes: > Is anyone out there researching the Moorman family? I am trying to find > out if Andrew Moorman married a Suzannah Reynolds. I just found an Andrew Moorman, 1689-1756 (s/o Thomas & Elizabeth Macajah Clark Moorman) who married Susannah (surname not given). Is this the one you are looking for. Apparently she died and he married again, to Sarah Clark. Apparently the person who complied this info didn't know Susannah surname--and I guess that was your original question. Joyce ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Visit The Quaker Corner - http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers

I don't have my stuff with me here, but I think it was in the early 1700's probably in Virginia. -----Original Message----- From: Jeobowman@cs.com [mailto:Jeobowman@cs.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:32 PM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Q-R] Moormans In a message dated 12/1/2004 2:36:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, dharguess@coastline.edu writes: > I am trying to find > out if Andrew Moorman married a Suzannah Reynolds. What is the time frame and general location? I have some Moorman info, though not much recent info. Joyce ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Is anyone out there researching the Moorman family? I am trying to find out if Andrew Moorman married a Suzannah Reynolds. Dale in Southern California

By any chance would this map have anything about the Peedee River? -----Original Message----- From: Violet O.Guy [mailto:vmguy@gmpexpress.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:16 PM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Q-R] Land transactions In Rowan/Orange/Guilford/Randolph Counties in NC Q-Rs: I have a very interesting map of Guiliford County, NC, which I purchased during the Mendenhall Family Reunion of 1999, which was held there in Guiliford County. The map shows rivers, Quaker Meeting houses and various denominations of churches plus pinpoints where families homes were. It also indicates boundries of the bordering counties. I find it quite interesting as I can find my ancestors' names written up on it. I believe that there was a discussion about this map sometime last winter. Violet Moore Guy 11/30/2004 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seth Hinshaw" <sethhinshaw@hotmail.com> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [Q-R] Land transactions In Rowan/Orange/Guilford/Randolph Counties in NC > Polecat Creek is a tributary of Deep River. It flows south from Greensboro, > west of > Pleasant Garden, just east of the Centre Meeting House, and flows into the > Deep > River east of Randleman. One of the major tributaries of Polecat Creek is > Little > Polecat Creek, which flows from just south of Climax, near Providence > Meeting > House, and into Polecat Creek just east of New Salem. > > My mother grew up on a farm which had an unnamed tributary of Polecat Creek > running across its western border. > > One other thing to keep in mind in tracing deeds along the border of > Guilford and > Randolph Counties is that a few decades ago Guilford County claimed that the > line had not been run correctly and paid for a new survey. As a result, the > line > was moved further north, giving Randolph County more land. The house where > my mother grew up was in Guilford County when it was constructed (1872) but > is > today just inside Randolph County. > > Another thing for researchers to remember in these deeds is that the > original > line separating Orange and Rowan Counties may be drawn. The southern > terminus of the boundary is the point where Moore and Montgomery Counties > touch the southern border of Randolph County. The Orange/Rowan line ran > due north from this point. This would place Providence very close to the > line. In practice, many of the earliest settlers did not know which county > they > lived in and sometimes filed their deeds in the wrong place. Hillsborough > was more > accessible than Salisbury, so some researchers believe that a few 1750s > settlers > along the line filed deeds in Hillsborough for this reason. > > >From: Thomas Hamm <tomh@earlham.edu> > >Reply-To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > >To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [Q-R] Land transactions In Rowan/Orange/Guilford/Randolph > >Counties in NC > >Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:27:26 -0500 > > > >You have the "genealogies" of Guilford and Randolph counties correct. > >Roughly, the eastern third of the two was part of Orange County before > >1770, and the western 2/3 was part of Rowan. What was known as the > >"Trading Path" ran basically east to west across the northern part of > >Randolph County. > > > >Tom Hamm > > > > > >>I am going through some of the land transactions that I looked at while > >>visiting NC two weeks ago. The following is from a book called: > >> > >>Randolph County > >>North Carolina > >> > >>Deed Abstracts > >>Books 1 thru 5 > >> > >>1779-1794 > >> > >>Volume I > >> > >>by Barbara Newsom Grigg > >>Rt. 2 Box 458 > >>Ashboro, NC 27203 > >> > >>I have made a note to myself that Abraham Elliott, Jr. seems to have lived > >>on Polecat Creek--also Joseph Elliot and Abraham Sr. and John Elliott > >> > >>Here is the entry that I am hoping someone can interpret for me: > >> > >>5;19, 11 Sept. 1792---James Alexander to Daniel Dawson, both of Guilford > >>County, for 150 pds. 150 a. in Randolph Co. being 1/2 the tract whereon > >>his father, George Alexander formerly lived on Polecat waters and both > >>sides the Trading Road adj. Benjamin Beeson & Jacob Elliot, crossing the > >>Old Orange Co. line. > >>Signed James Alexander, Wit: John Coe, Isaac Causey > >> > >>It is Jacob Elliott that I am interested in....and this seems to narrow > >>down just exactly where he lived better than any of the land transactions > >>that I have looked at. Is there a place that I can look at a map to see > >>where the Trading Road and the Old Orange County line would be? I have a > >>map that shows me the area where Polecat Creek is located. It seems to be > >>just west of Ashboro. Was Ashboro on the Trading Road? I have looked at > >>the animap images of the creation of Guilford and Randolph and it is > >>somewhat confusing. It looks to me as if Guilford was formed from part of > >>Rowan and part of Orange with both giving up some of their territory and > >>then Randoph was created from Guilford. Is my interpretation correct? > >>It is my gut feeling that my Jacob Elliott bought land in 1764 in Rowan > >>County....then lived in Guilford and finally Randolph without ever moving > >>off of his original property on Polecat Creek. Is my thinking valid? > > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Need assistance? Please contact:Quaker-Roots-L-Admin@RootsWeb.com List Manager for Quaker-Roots-L and Quaker-Roots-D Now with over 750 subscribers

----- Original Message ----- From: "Violet O.Guy" <vmguy@gmpexpress.net> Violet wrote > Q-Rs: > > I have a very interesting map of Guiliford County, NC, which I purchased > during the Mendenhall Family Reunion of 1999, which was held there in > Guiliford County. The map shows rivers, Quaker Meeting houses and various > denominations of churches plus pinpoints where families homes were. It > also > indicates boundries of the bordering counties. I find it quite > interesting > as I can find my ancestors' names written up on it. As of this past March the map and paperback supplement were available from: Guilford County Genealogical Society Publications PO Box 49104 Greensboro, NC 27419-1104 The cost was $10 for the Guilford County Map & Supplement by Fred Hughes The map "positions land-owners, mills, schools, churches, roads, rivers & streams and many other features as they exited prior to 1800." Some of the land-owners are Starbuck, Gardner, Dick, Macy, Coffin and other Quaker families, in addition to Violet's Mendenhalls. Bonnie Lyons Anderson, IN Researching Coffins & Peacocks

Michael: Thanks so much for the look-up! According to the information about Barnabas & Phebe (Marshall) Coffin's son Barnabas, Jr, as found in the 6 g-chart, which was published in "COFFIN FAMILY NEWSLETTER", August 1997, Volume XIII, No. 3, Whole No 51 (pp14 & 15): Barnabas Coffin, Jr. m. 1st, Sarah WHEELER. b. 1785, m 1806 - 8 children m. 2nd, Sophia FISLER, b. 1814, m. 1830, d. 1850 - children listed.. --- I translate your info from Crane Creek as: "Sarah WHEELER is the daugheter of John & Mary (Piggott) Wheeler". Barnabas Coffin Sr. transferred his Nantucket, MA certificate at New Garden, MM, Guiford Co., NC and then he & Phebe were listed in the formation of Deep Creek MM, where their children are listed -- and Barnabas Coffin, Sr. became Clerk of the QM or the YM, I believe (but then, I know only from genealogy studies, the structure of the Quaker Meetings.) WHEEKER: Just remember that my widowed 4G-Grandmother Mendnhall md.2ndly, the widower, Manlove WHEELER. I'll have to look at Deep Creek MM records. When I was there at the Deep River Meeting house for1999's Mendenhall Family Reuion, I found the Manlove Wheeler's (a widower with children by first wife) grave plots as I was looking for his 2nd wife, Mary (Kendall) Mendenhall . who is the widow of Elijah ; therefore, she is my 4G-Grandmother Mendenhall. We were unable to find Barnabas, Sr. & Phebe (Marshall) Coffins' graves, but we did find the grave of their grandson, Shubal Coffin, MD. QUESTION for the List: Does anyone know "the Barnabas Coffin owning a section of land in New Farmington, IN in the year 1816 (Quaker-1816)"??? New Farmington, IN is near Seymour, which is west of I- 65, on US-50, so probably in Jackson County? Their are other Coffins from NC>IN as well as those that migrated directly from Nantucket or elsewhere in the East. Thanks! Violet Moore Guy 11/30/2004 ----- Original Message ----- From: "usacmech" <usacmech@prodigy.net> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 5:49 AM Subject: Re: [Q-R] Barnabas & Phebe (Marshall) COFFIN, Nantucket> Guiliford, Co., NC > >From the book " Piedmont North Carolina Cemeteries ", Quaker records of the > Cane Creek MM, (now) Alamance Co, NC., by Mr. & Mrs. Hornaday. > > Cane Creek Birth and Death Records > > Sarah Wheeler born 7-31-1793 dau of John and Elizabeth. > John Wheeler born 4-8-1746 husband of Elizabeth born 1760, son of John and > Mary Wheelr. Born in Maryland > Elizabeth Wheeler born 4-24-1760. Wife of John born 1746, dau of Benjamin > and Mary Piggott. > > I don't know if this is the Mary Wheeler who married Barnabas Coffin. > > Take Care. Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Violet O.Guy" <vmguy@gmpexpress.net> > To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 12:42 AM > Subject: [Q-R] Barnabas & Phebe (Marshall) COFFIN, Nantucket> Guiliford, > Co., NC > > > > Q-Rers: > > > > My response to a query this week on GenForum -- " a record of Barnabas > Coffin owning a section of land in New Farmington, IN in the year 1816. > (Quaker-1816)" > > > > "Barnabas Coffin, Indiana: There are possibly two laterals from my line of > "Barnabas & Phebe (Marshall)Coffin, Nantucket, MA>Guilford Co., NC" for > Barnabas is a family name! > > > > "1) SON, Barnabas Coffin m. Sarah Wheeler dr of John. > > (No other information published in "The Coffin Family" edited by Louis > Coffin, NHA; page 274. *Nothing more, not even a number; however you might > check Quaker Records at New Garden MM and/or at Deep River MM in Guilford > Co., NC.)" > > > > "2) GRANDSON, Barnabas Coffin s/o Joseph & Hannah (Ballinger) Coffin, md. > Miriam Worth dr of David & Eunice > > 12/29/1829; see "The Coffin Family" page 285 and page 300. Quaker records > may be obtained from Deep River MM, Guilford Co., IN and Springfield MM, > Wayne Co., IN." > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > I have found this: in "COFFIN FAMILY NEWWSLETTER", August 1997, Volume > XIII, No. 3, Whole No 51: > > > > "Barnabas Coffin, Jr. and his two wives": Louis Coffin, page 274, had > Barnabas, son of Barnabas and Phebe (Marshall) Coffin and his wife Sarah > Wheeler but had no birth or dates and no family. It was stated by Editor, > David P. Coffin in his article that there was a database of 6-generations; > and he went on to write that "Many of our Coffins in the mid-west are > descended from the line of William and Priscilla of North Carolina, > grandparents of this Barnabas Junior." > > > > Others who migrated to Indiana: 1) My own GGG-Grandparents, Himelius & > Priscilla (Coffin) Mendenhall as well as > 2) Hannah Coffin dr Barnabas & Phebe md. Joseoh C. Hitchcock, who migrated > to Indiana, are descendents of Barnabas & Phebe. > > > > Thanks for any help :-) > > > > Violet Moore Guy > > > > > >

Q-Rs: I have a very interesting map of Guiliford County, NC, which I purchased during the Mendenhall Family Reunion of 1999, which was held there in Guiliford County. The map shows rivers, Quaker Meeting houses and various denominations of churches plus pinpoints where families homes were. It also indicates boundries of the bordering counties. I find it quite interesting as I can find my ancestors' names written up on it. I believe that there was a discussion about this map sometime last winter. Violet Moore Guy 11/30/2004 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seth Hinshaw" <sethhinshaw@hotmail.com> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [Q-R] Land transactions In Rowan/Orange/Guilford/Randolph Counties in NC > Polecat Creek is a tributary of Deep River. It flows south from Greensboro, > west of > Pleasant Garden, just east of the Centre Meeting House, and flows into the > Deep > River east of Randleman. One of the major tributaries of Polecat Creek is > Little > Polecat Creek, which flows from just south of Climax, near Providence > Meeting > House, and into Polecat Creek just east of New Salem. > > My mother grew up on a farm which had an unnamed tributary of Polecat Creek > running across its western border. > > One other thing to keep in mind in tracing deeds along the border of > Guilford and > Randolph Counties is that a few decades ago Guilford County claimed that the > line had not been run correctly and paid for a new survey. As a result, the > line > was moved further north, giving Randolph County more land. The house where > my mother grew up was in Guilford County when it was constructed (1872) but > is > today just inside Randolph County. > > Another thing for researchers to remember in these deeds is that the > original > line separating Orange and Rowan Counties may be drawn. The southern > terminus of the boundary is the point where Moore and Montgomery Counties > touch the southern border of Randolph County. The Orange/Rowan line ran > due north from this point. This would place Providence very close to the > line. In practice, many of the earliest settlers did not know which county > they > lived in and sometimes filed their deeds in the wrong place. Hillsborough > was more > accessible than Salisbury, so some researchers believe that a few 1750s > settlers > along the line filed deeds in Hillsborough for this reason. > > >From: Thomas Hamm <tomh@earlham.edu> > >Reply-To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > >To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [Q-R] Land transactions In Rowan/Orange/Guilford/Randolph > >Counties in NC > >Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:27:26 -0500 > > > >You have the "genealogies" of Guilford and Randolph counties correct. > >Roughly, the eastern third of the two was part of Orange County before > >1770, and the western 2/3 was part of Rowan. What was known as the > >"Trading Path" ran basically east to west across the northern part of > >Randolph County. > > > >Tom Hamm > > > > > >>I am going through some of the land transactions that I looked at while > >>visiting NC two weeks ago. The following is from a book called: > >> > >>Randolph County > >>North Carolina > >> > >>Deed Abstracts > >>Books 1 thru 5 > >> > >>1779-1794 > >> > >>Volume I > >> > >>by Barbara Newsom Grigg > >>Rt. 2 Box 458 > >>Ashboro, NC 27203 > >> > >>I have made a note to myself that Abraham Elliott, Jr. seems to have lived > >>on Polecat Creek--also Joseph Elliot and Abraham Sr. and John Elliott > >> > >>Here is the entry that I am hoping someone can interpret for me: > >> > >>5;19, 11 Sept. 1792---James Alexander to Daniel Dawson, both of Guilford > >>County, for 150 pds. 150 a. in Randolph Co. being 1/2 the tract whereon > >>his father, George Alexander formerly lived on Polecat waters and both > >>sides the Trading Road adj. Benjamin Beeson & Jacob Elliot, crossing the > >>Old Orange Co. line. > >>Signed James Alexander, Wit: John Coe, Isaac Causey > >> > >>It is Jacob Elliott that I am interested in....and this seems to narrow > >>down just exactly where he lived better than any of the land transactions > >>that I have looked at. Is there a place that I can look at a map to see > >>where the Trading Road and the Old Orange County line would be? I have a > >>map that shows me the area where Polecat Creek is located. It seems to be > >>just west of Ashboro. Was Ashboro on the Trading Road? I have looked at > >>the animap images of the creation of Guilford and Randolph and it is > >>somewhat confusing. It looks to me as if Guilford was formed from part of > >>Rowan and part of Orange with both giving up some of their territory and > >>then Randoph was created from Guilford. Is my interpretation correct? > >>It is my gut feeling that my Jacob Elliott bought land in 1764 in Rowan > >>County....then lived in Guilford and finally Randolph without ever moving > >>off of his original property on Polecat Creek. Is my thinking valid? > > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Polecat Creek is a tributary of Deep River. It flows south from Greensboro, west of Pleasant Garden, just east of the Centre Meeting House, and flows into the Deep River east of Randleman. One of the major tributaries of Polecat Creek is Little Polecat Creek, which flows from just south of Climax, near Providence Meeting House, and into Polecat Creek just east of New Salem. My mother grew up on a farm which had an unnamed tributary of Polecat Creek running across its western border. One other thing to keep in mind in tracing deeds along the border of Guilford and Randolph Counties is that a few decades ago Guilford County claimed that the line had not been run correctly and paid for a new survey. As a result, the line was moved further north, giving Randolph County more land. The house where my mother grew up was in Guilford County when it was constructed (1872) but is today just inside Randolph County. Another thing for researchers to remember in these deeds is that the original line separating Orange and Rowan Counties may be drawn. The southern terminus of the boundary is the point where Moore and Montgomery Counties touch the southern border of Randolph County. The Orange/Rowan line ran due north from this point. This would place Providence very close to the line. In practice, many of the earliest settlers did not know which county they lived in and sometimes filed their deeds in the wrong place. Hillsborough was more accessible than Salisbury, so some researchers believe that a few 1750s settlers along the line filed deeds in Hillsborough for this reason. >From: Thomas Hamm <tomh@earlham.edu> >Reply-To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [Q-R] Land transactions In Rowan/Orange/Guilford/Randolph >Counties in NC >Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:27:26 -0500 > >You have the "genealogies" of Guilford and Randolph counties correct. >Roughly, the eastern third of the two was part of Orange County before >1770, and the western 2/3 was part of Rowan. What was known as the >"Trading Path" ran basically east to west across the northern part of >Randolph County. > >Tom Hamm > > >>I am going through some of the land transactions that I looked at while >>visiting NC two weeks ago. The following is from a book called: >> >>Randolph County >>North Carolina >> >>Deed Abstracts >>Books 1 thru 5 >> >>1779-1794 >> >>Volume I >> >>by Barbara Newsom Grigg >>Rt. 2 Box 458 >>Ashboro, NC 27203 >> >>I have made a note to myself that Abraham Elliott, Jr. seems to have lived >>on Polecat Creek--also Joseph Elliot and Abraham Sr. and John Elliott >> >>Here is the entry that I am hoping someone can interpret for me: >> >>5;19, 11 Sept. 1792---James Alexander to Daniel Dawson, both of Guilford >>County, for 150 pds. 150 a. in Randolph Co. being 1/2 the tract whereon >>his father, George Alexander formerly lived on Polecat waters and both >>sides the Trading Road adj. Benjamin Beeson & Jacob Elliot, crossing the >>Old Orange Co. line. >>Signed James Alexander, Wit: John Coe, Isaac Causey >> >>It is Jacob Elliott that I am interested in....and this seems to narrow >>down just exactly where he lived better than any of the land transactions >>that I have looked at. Is there a place that I can look at a map to see >>where the Trading Road and the Old Orange County line would be? I have a >>map that shows me the area where Polecat Creek is located. It seems to be >>just west of Ashboro. Was Ashboro on the Trading Road? I have looked at >>the animap images of the creation of Guilford and Randolph and it is >>somewhat confusing. It looks to me as if Guilford was formed from part of >>Rowan and part of Orange with both giving up some of their territory and >>then Randoph was created from Guilford. Is my interpretation correct? >>It is my gut feeling that my Jacob Elliott bought land in 1764 in Rowan >>County....then lived in Guilford and finally Randolph without ever moving >>off of his original property on Polecat Creek. Is my thinking valid?

Friends, I may have missed a response to this inquiry, but it looked a good speculation. Seeing no response from someone with the facts, I went to the Monthly Meetings in North America site <www.QuakerMeetings.com> and found that the earliest of the four meetings in Stevens County, Kansas [Lafayette/Bethel] started in 1888. http://www.quakermeetings.com/search_display?MeetingName=&County=Stevens &StateOrProvince=Kansas&generalSearchWord= [two-line URL] In fact Haviland MM was settled slightly earlier, set off from Rose Hill MM closer to Wichita. So it seems that to research the possibilities one would need to study the records in the Mid-America Yearly Meeting archives at Friends University or the "Hinshaw" index cards for Kansas at Swarthmore, Friends University, William Penn College or (possibly) Earlham College. Sources: MMNA YM list: "The Quaker Collection of the Edmund Stanley Library, Friends University, Wichita, Kansas, holds the Heiss typescripts of the Hinshaw abstracts of Iowa and other midwest monthly meetings, and the Wilcox Library of William Penn College in Oskaloosa, Iowa holds photocopies." MMNA Definitions: "I generally do not list the location of unofficial records, such as the Hinshaw meeting-history and vital-information cards that Swarthmore retains or the Heiss typescripts of the Hinshaw data for mid-west meetings that exist in various libraries." I vaguely recall that one of the genealogical publishing houses put out a book of copies of the Heiss typescripts. Tom Thomas C. Hill 425 Walnut Street, Suite 1800 Cincinnati, OH 45202 U.S.A. e-mail: tomhill@nuvox.com www.quakermeetings.com -----Original Message----- From: Robert Hill [mailto:rlrhill@cox.net] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:43 PM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Q-R] Possible Quaker ancestry - Wayne Co., IN I've recently been going over some of my father's ancestry, and found a clue that leads me to believe that some of them may have been Quakers. Benjamin McCASHLAND and his wife Elizabeth WEEKLY and their six children migrated about 1830 from Culpeper Co., Virginia to the Whitewater Valley, Wayne Co., Indiana. Near the same time, Spencer STEVENS, his wife Elizabeth (possibly RHEBARTH) and eight children migrated to Centerville, Wayne Co., IN from Rowan Co., North Carolina. Their grandchildren, Joseph Marion STEVENS and Nancy Elizabeth McCASHLAND married in 1870, had eight children born in Wayne County, and migrated to Stevens Co. in south-west Kansas about 1887. Now, here's the clue I mentioned. Nancy Elizabeth and three of her children died in Haviland, Kiowa Co., Kansas, while Joseph Marion stayed with the farm in Stevens County. The only reason [speculation] I can think of for Nancy to go to Haviland is to be with someone she trusted, either family or church, or both. Haviland was settled by Quakers from Indiana. I never heard my father mention Quakers, and my mother was surprised when I mentioned this possibility to her. Not knowing up from down concerning Quaker genealogy, I thought it would be a good idea to talk to some people who do know the subject. Where do I go to find out if my speculation is valid? Bob Hill in AZ

My family of Footes, Wilsons, and Lynns from this same area and same time followed or moved with the Quakers. I have found Patrick Lynn/Linn, John Wilson (don't know who his parents are)but cannot find John (Wesley) Foote. The Footes and Lynns are from Ireland. These families went to Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky, Illinois. In Illinois, the Footes were affiliated with the Cadawalladers (sp?). Can anyone find anything on the John Foote family in Rowan County around 1788-1795 or so? Thanks! Mary Lou Tannich -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Hamm [mailto:tomh@earlham.edu] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 7:27 AM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Q-R] Land transactions In Rowan/Orange/Guilford/Randolph Counties in NC You have the "genealogies" of Guilford and Randolph counties correct. Roughly, the eastern third of the two was part of Orange County before 1770, and the western 2/3 was part of Rowan. What was known as the "Trading Path" ran basically east to west across the northern part of Randolph County. Tom Hamm >I am going through some of the land transactions that I looked at >while visiting NC two weeks ago. The following is from a book >called: > >Randolph County >North Carolina > >Deed Abstracts >Books 1 thru 5 > >1779-1794 > >Volume I > >by Barbara Newsom Grigg >Rt. 2 Box 458 >Ashboro, NC 27203 > >I have made a note to myself that Abraham Elliott, Jr. seems to have >lived on Polecat Creek--also Joseph Elliot and Abraham Sr. and John >Elliott > >Here is the entry that I am hoping someone can interpret for me: > >5;19, 11 Sept. 1792---James Alexander to Daniel Dawson, both of >Guilford County, for 150 pds. 150 a. in Randolph Co. being 1/2 the >tract whereon his father, George Alexander formerly lived on Polecat >waters and both sides the Trading Road adj. Benjamin Beeson & Jacob >Elliot, crossing the Old Orange Co. line. >Signed James Alexander, Wit: John Coe, Isaac Causey > >It is Jacob Elliott that I am interested in....and this seems to >narrow down just exactly where he lived better than any of the land >transactions that I have looked at. Is there a place that I can >look at a map to see where the Trading Road and the Old Orange >County line would be? I have a map that shows me the area where >Polecat Creek is located. It seems to be just west of Ashboro. Was >Ashboro on the Trading Road? I have looked at the animap images of >the creation of Guilford and Randolph and it is somewhat confusing. >It looks to me as if Guilford was formed from part of Rowan and part >of Orange with both giving up some of their territory and then >Randoph was created from Guilford. Is my interpretation correct? >It is my gut feeling that my Jacob Elliott bought land in 1764 in >Rowan County....then lived in Guilford and finally Randolph without >ever moving off of his original property on Polecat Creek. Is my >thinking valid? > > >==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ______________________________