Looking for information on Samuel Warrington born about 1808 New Jersey and Abigail Bourne born about 1808 Massachusetts, who were married 1829 in Preble County, OH. I think it is possible that at one time the families of one or both may have been Quaker. They moved to Indiana from Ohio about 1833. Their oldest daughter, Lydia, married Edward H. Finley. The oldest daughter of Edward and Lydia, Frances, married Jacob Reece Wright in Grant Co., IN. Samuel may have had a brother named Benjamin who married Sarah Horner 1834 Preble Co., OH. Any information on these individuals could help a lot. Cathey Wright Jendeski

Jerry From the booklets " Piedmont North Carolina Cemeteries ". There is no mention were Thomas Atkinson born 9-18-1741 came from but his 2nd wife Ruth H. (Harvey) was born 1755 in Chester Co., PA. and was the dau od Issac and Martha Harvey. Thomas Atkinson B 1741 1st wife Ruth C. (Cruze) was the dau of John and Ann Cruze. Take Care. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry M." <jerrym@netacc.net> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [Q-R] Quaker Ancestors > Michael - I want to know where Thomas Atkinson, b. 1741, came from to Cane Creek. I don't know whether Hinshaw has it in his books or not. > Jerry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: usacmech > To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 2:29 PM > Subject: Re: [Q-R] Quaker Ancestors > > > There were several Thomas Atkinsons at the Cane Creek (now) Alamance Co., > NC. > > Maybe the following will help; > > From the booklets " Piedmont North Carolina Cemeteries ", compiled Quaker > records by Mr. & Mrs. Hornaday. > > Cane Creek Birth and Death Records > > Thomas Atkinson born 8-28-1796 son of John and Mary. > > Thomas Atkinson born 8-30-1796 son of Thomas and Ruth. > > Thomas Atkinson born 9-18-1741 husband of Ruth C. (Cruze) and Ruth > H.(Harvey). Son of Henry and Ann. See note # 1. > > Note # 1. Two of the children of Thomas Atkinson b 1741, Elisabeth and > William went to Wrightsboro, GA. > > In the Spring MM Records Arrivals and Removals; > > Ruth Atkinson to Wrightsboro MM, GA. 11-09-1795 grt. h & ch. > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Good Luck. Michael > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry M." <jerrym@netacc.net> > To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:30 AM > Subject: Re: [Q-R] Quaker Ancestors > > > > Can you look up Thomas Atkinson, he was accepted at Cane Creek in N. > Carolina, but I would like to know from where he moved his membership. > > Jerry M. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: TEXTIQUE@aol.com > > To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:10 PM > > Subject: Re: [Q-R] Quaker Ancestors > > > > > > Linda; > > > > I have the whole series of Hinshaw's books at home along with many other > > Quaker records. If you can't find them at your library (and I can't > imagine > > they won't have them); I can look anything up at any time. > > > > Jan Thomas > > Textile Specialist & Independent Researcher > > Colorado Springs > > > > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > > Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > > Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Need assistance? Please contact:Quaker-Roots-L-Admin@RootsWeb.com > List Manager for Quaker-Roots-L and Quaker-Roots-D > Now with over 750 subscribers > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: > QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com > The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE. >

Here is my first posting to this list, and my Brickwall ancestor. James W. Leach was born about 1802 in Maryland, though some sources say Virginia or Pennsylvania. According to several History Books written about Salem, Columbiana Co., Ohio, this James W. Leach was raised in the household of Joseph Wright, and that Joseph Wright had a son in law named John Spencer. That in the fall of 1809 my ancestor James W. Leach b. 1802 recalls coming thru Salem, OH to visit John Spencer, who he describes as the son in law of Joseph Wright, his foster father. (Salem, OH is famous for being founded and settled by Quakers, however, there were plenty of non-Quakers there as well. Probably the FIRST settlers came there as of 1803.) On the 1810 Tax roll of Salem , OH is listed: Joseph Wright, Sr Joseph Wright, Jr John Spencer I have found that a Joseph Wright, Sr b. 1737 VA d. 1831, and his son Joseph Wright, Jr b. 1781 d. 1860 both were from Bedford Co, VA. The Sr. stayed Quaker lifelong, but the Jr. was dismissed in VA for marrying out. ( There is a CD for sale with information about this specific Wright family of Bedford Co VA, and I can give you privately information where to order it.) Both father and son did arrive in Salem, OH about 1803. The route taken was : Bedford Co VA (Goose Creek MM) to Westland, Washington Co PA (Westland MM) to Salem, Columbiana Co, OH (Middleton MM) as of Nov 12, 1803. In the History of Salem, OH it is said that both Joseph Wright and wife, and John Spencer and wife were early members of the First Baptist Church in Salem, OH, deed dated 1809, located in Perry twsp. It appears that the Joseph Wright who was the Baptist in Salem was Joseph Wright, Jr originally of Bedford Co VA, who had been dismissed in 1802 for marrying Sarah EDGAR in VA. However, this Joseph Wright was too young to be the father in law of John Spencer of Salem, but perhaps was only a neighbor and fellow Baptist? According to Wright researchers, both Joseph Wright, Sr and Jr did leave Bedford Co VA and did settle in Salem, OH. While the father remained Quaker lifelong, the son did not, because of a marriage out of faith. I need to find the parents of my ancestor James W. Leach, who apparently is NOT blood related to the WRIGHT family, or the Spencer family, but was either orphaned or abandoned either in Westland, PA or at Salem, OH. Could there be a Mr. Leach, married to a Miss Edgar in Bedford Co VA, who produced James W. Leach, and was given to Joseph Wright, Jr and Sarah Edgar to raise in Salem, OH?? The author William Fetters, who has written so much on the LEECH-LEACH families of Salem, OH, who were Quaker, does not see any connection to my ancestor James W. Leach of Salem, OH. In 1821 my ancestor James W. Leach b. 1802 MD was one of the founders of the First Methodist Episcopal Church of Salem, OH. He married Mary Bowker, who was of Quaker ancestry in Burlington Co NJ, she was daughter of Isaiah Bowker, Rev War Vet. They married and lived lifelong in Salem, OH. On census reports, James W. Leach never gives a place for his father's birth, but does state his mother was born in IRELAND. I am looking for a Mr. LEACH/LEECH/LEITCH, who married an Irish immigrant, perhaps they were Quakers who arrived from Maryland to Westland MM, PA with an infant in 1802-3 time frame. Something occurred to cause the son to be given away to Joseph Wright, who in 1803 arrived in Salem, OH and raised the child in the Perry twsp (formed from Butler twsp), of Salem, OH, on the Lisbon road. The causes could be: death to the parents, an illegitament birth of James W. Leach, a divorce, abandonment. The exact cause is unknown as to WHY he would be raised in a Non-related household. Please give me your thoughts and comments and advice as to my oldest ancestor James W. Leach b. 1802 MD. Best regards, Lillian Martin, d/o Emily Leach, d/o Charles E. Leach, s/o William Edgar Leach (Salem), s/o James Augustus Leach (Salem), s/o Thomas Lupton Bain Leach (Salem), s/o James W. Leach b. 1802 MD. died 1888 Salem, OH.

I want to thank Tom for the URL to the list of Meetings.I was extremely surprised to find one in Pasoquotank, North Carolina. keep on-keeping on-never quit. Roger

Thanks - Judy -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Hamm [mailto:tomh@earlham.edu] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:35 AM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [Q-R] Recorder's Minutes Ordinarily, they are archived with the monthly meeting minutes. I know, for example, that is the case at Swarthmore, Guilford, and here at Earlham. Of course, sometimes specific volumes get lost. Tom Hamm >Tom, > >They may not be called "minutes" but then my query is where are these vital >records stored, located, archived? > >Judy > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tom Hill [mailto:tomhill@nuvox.net] >Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 1:34 PM >To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [Q-R] Recorder's Minutes > >Judith Heald, > > In my review of Quaker records I have seldom seen separate >minutes from a meeting's recorder. The result of the recorder's work is >the record of births, deaths, marriages and membership. However, in a >few meetings there are drafts of vital records and drafts of the >presiding clerk's minutes; perhaps someone has considered those >"recorder's minutes".. > > Tom > >Thomas C. Hill >425 Walnut Street, Suite 1800 >Cincinnati, OH 45202 U.S.A. >e-mail: tomhill@nuvox.com >www.quakermeetings.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: jheald [mailto:jheald@pennswoods.net] >Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 8:04 AM >To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Q-R] Recorder's Minutes > >In addition to the Meeting Minutes, all Quaker Meetings I have been >associated with also have a position called "Recorder" within which are >kept what I consider the real genealogical finds. The Recorder notes >births, deaths, marriages, new members and members who leave the >meeting. The Recorder noted my daughter's marriage with her parents >names, her husband's parents names, and what meeting he was associated >with as well. Problem is, I don't know where these minutes for other >Monthly Meetings are located!!! Swarthmore has archived Meeting minutes, >but not Recorder Minutes? My hubby thinks the London Grove Recorder >notes are on the London Grove property in the safe, but where are >others? > >Judy > >Judith Walter Heald jheald@pennswoods.net Spring >Mills, PA 16875 > > >==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: > QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com > The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE. ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE.

In a message dated 12/13/2004 2:48:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, QUAKER-ROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Nearly everyone on this list knows I have no information on > individuals, so they will not be surprised that I am responding only to > the request to suggest sources of the information. > > Pasquotank MM > <http://www.quakermeetings.com/viewRecord_display?anID=TST1826L>was the > earliest Quaker meeting in North Carolina and came to be known as Symons > Creek or Little River from 1741 until it closed in 1851 and was attached > to Piney Woods MM in Perquimans County Tom, Thank you so much. You told me exactly what I needed to know....that I was looking in the wrong place! The family was from the Little River of Durants meeting and not the Cane Creek meeting. Thank you for taking time to help. It is very much appreciated. Debbie

The reference too Pasquotank North Carolina. really tweeked out my mind.or what's left of it. i have two references where my Ancestors from the Blatchford lineage Married Quakers.There are still some missing links.I just entred some information about the interconnected Hobson Line and the Tuckness line and of cource the Canadian Armitage line.The Blatchford family not being Quakers sure did marry into there families.. Some of the Blatchford were in Wales at Quaker Yard,Treharris, Glamorgan.was this the reason.? keep on-keeping on-never quit. Roger

I've noticed that there has been some discussion on Claytons. I do not recognize the men or women mentioned. I have a Rachel Clayton who married Michael Newbold in 1696 in Springfield Burlington County, NJ. I have her parents as John Clayton and Alice Myers/Myres from Lancashire, England. I wonder whether anyone knows anything about this Clayton family? Tom Hamm, would this be one of the Lancashire families that you are speaking of? Thanks for any help. NT jcntsmith@aol.com

Here's one of my Quaker branches about which I don't believe I've ever seen any discussion here on Quaker Roots: The Case family of Long Island. I'm descended from a John Case (d.1703/4) who is believed to have arrived on the ship Dorset at Newport, R.I., about 1635. According to an old Case family genealogy, he first lived with his brother, Thomas, who had immigrated earlier. I don't know whether my John was a Friend, but apparently Thomas was. Dr. Increase Mather thus speaks of him in 1681: "There went down about a moneth since three mad Quakers, called Thomas Case's crew, one man named Denham, belonging to Newer-Snicks, and two women with him belonging to Oyster Bay; these went down to South-hold, where they meet with Samuel Banks of Fairfield, the most blasphemous villain that ever was known in those parts. These joining together with some other inhabitants of South-hold of the same spirit, there went into their company a young merchant named Thomas Harris, who was somewhat inclining to the Quakers before (he belonged to Boston); they all go about him and fell a-dancing and singing, according to their diabolical manner." (Source: Life of John Case, by A.P. Case) Is anyone familiar with this Case family? Mark

Thomas Hamm wrote: <snip> >I need to check on the copyright implications of this. One >consideration is whether a genealogist making and distributing >multiple copies of a CD, even to people only for their personal use >and not for profit, would have an effect on the copyright holder. It >seems to me parallel to the cases involving the music industry. <snip> I posted something a little earlier about this, but sent it in under a non-subscribed address. After a few years experience on mailing lists, I shouldn't be making a beginner's mistake like that! Anyway, five points ... [not legal opinion, just as I understand the situation] ... (1) Anyone purchasing and unpacking a commercial CD might somewhere in the process be entering into a legal contract not to transmit the information. (2) The real issue of copyright is whether the financial interests of the publisher and author are harmed by transmission of the information. If by posting or emailing information to an individual or list, you are diminishing the number of copies of the CD that will be sold, then the publisher and author have a good legal case against you. If you aren't damaging their financial interests, then copyright doesn't have much in the way of teeth. I would think that anyone researching Nantucket Quakers is a potential purchaser of the CD under discussion and so any dissemination of the contents is damaging to the interests of publisher and author. It is, in effect, theft. (3) This sort of thing boomerangs badly onto us as genealogists. If the authors aren't getting a fair return for their research, then they are unlikely to do more research. (4) The moral burden doesn't lie only on the person posting the information. It also lies on the people requesting the data - there's not any great ethical difference between requesting a large chunk of data from a commercial CD and stealing a pair of socks from your local store. (5) The above doesn't mean that people can't post or transmit small amounts of data (within the rules laid own by the list administrator). You could easily argue, if this is done with full details of the source, that it is a form of advertising and will enhance sales. Chris

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In a message dated 12/13/2004 1:44:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, robinzer@seidata.com writes: > Searching for our roots we need so me help. We have heard that somewhere > our ancestors may have been Quakers, but have no proof. Robert (S?) Dwiggins > b1746 in MD, probably Talbot Co. Died 05Apr1789 in Guilford Co., NC. Some of > the family migrated to Indiana , Missouri and Arkansas. We believe his > father was James Dwiggins who came to NC through VA from MD. There was Mary Dwiggins who transferred her membership from New Garden MM in Guilford Co, NC to Whitewater MM, Wayne Co, IN in 1812. Is this part of your family? If she was married, it would appear that his husband was not a member. There were a few other mentions of the name Dwiggins in the Quaker records (Hinshaw's EAQG) in NC and Ohio, but the others were mostly in the late 1800's. Joyce Joyce Overman Bowman Indianapolis, IN

Debbie, Nearly everyone on this list knows I have no information on individuals, so they will not be surprised that I am responding only to the request to suggest sources of the information. Pasquotank MM <http://www.quakermeetings.com/viewRecord_display?anID=TST1826L>was the earliest Quaker meeting in North Carolina and came to be known as Symons Creek or Little River from 1741 until it closed in 1851 and was attached to Piney Woods MM in Perquimans County <http://www.quakermeetings.com/viewRecord_display?anID=TST1453L>. Look for your family names in Hinshaw under these two MMs in eastern North Carolina; you should not expect to find them under Piedmont-area meetings like Cane Creek MM. Tom Thomas C. Hill 425 Walnut Street, Suite 1800 Cincinnati, OH 45202 U.S.A. e-mail: tomhill@nuvox.com www.quakermeetings.com -----Original Message----- From: Nascar2sexxx@wmconnect.com [mailto:Nascar2sexxx@wmconnect.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:05 AM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Q-R] NC Burges family Hello everyone, I am hoping someone can help me or steer me in the right direction. In 1850 I find a family in the census John and Lydia Burges in Pasquotank County NC. Later I do not find them. I believe this could possibly be the family I have been looking for. I can find them in 1860...under another name. Would this family be listed in the Cane MM? I believe they were excommunicated from the church, moved and changed their names around (using the middle as last) because of the impending war which my ancestor served in. Thanks to any help or suggestions. Debbie

Searching for our roots we need so me help. We have heard that somewhere our ancestors may have been Quakers, but have no proof. Robert (S?) Dwiggins b1746 in MD, probably Talbot Co. Died 05Apr1789 in Guilford Co., NC. Some of the family migrated to Indiana , Missouri and Arkansas. We believe his father was James Dwiggins who came to NC through VA from MD. Before that we can only guess. Ireland or England?? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Bob Binzer

Sorry, Carol, I don't--but I would be willing to bet there is a connection. My Peace Chase (see below) has a sister named Susannah Chase. She was b. in 1734 and married Daniiel Wood. Probably she is named after a relative, but I don't have all the children of Stephen Chase's cousins, so I really can't help you. Have you searched for clues online? I think the Chase/Chace genealogy has been pretty well mined. There are actually two early Chase families. There was another Chase immigrant who settled in the Massachussetts Bay Colony, so sometimes the two families are confused. I'll send you the email of someone who might be able to help off list in another email. Leslie -----Original Message----- From: Carol Thompson [mailto:ctgd@mac.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 8:15 AM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Q-R] Joseph CHASE/CHACE/BUFFINGTON New England Leslie; I have a Wiliam Buffington marrying a Susannah Chase in 1726, Swansea, MA. He was the son of Benjamin Buffington and Hannah Southwick. Do you know what her connection is to your Chase family? Carol T. On Dec 10, 2004, at 11:57 PM, Leslie Hope wrote: > Joel, > > I am descended from William Chase as well; however I descend thru > Stephen > (brother of George) m. Esther Buffington. Then I am descended from > their > daughter Peace (a good Quaker name!) m. David Baker. David Baker moved > to > Ontario NY with his adult children and their families after Peace died > and > the next generation (Moses Baker m. Cynthia White) migrated to Lenawee > Co, > MI where they remained members of the Society of Friends. You probably > need > to check the Providence RI MM records to see if Louisa was disowned for > *marrying out of meeting.* > > Leslie Hope > Carol Thompson CTGD 130 Center Street Clinton, NJ 08809 ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Visit The Quaker Corner - http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers

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Leslie; I have a Wiliam Buffington marrying a Susannah Chase in 1726, Swansea, MA. He was the son of Benjamin Buffington and Hannah Southwick. Do you know what her connection is to your Chase family? Carol T. On Dec 10, 2004, at 11:57 PM, Leslie Hope wrote: > Joel, > > I am descended from William Chase as well; however I descend thru > Stephen > (brother of George) m. Esther Buffington. Then I am descended from > their > daughter Peace (a good Quaker name!) m. David Baker. David Baker moved > to > Ontario NY with his adult children and their families after Peace died > and > the next generation (Moses Baker m. Cynthia White) migrated to Lenawee > Co, > MI where they remained members of the Society of Friends. You probably > need > to check the Providence RI MM records to see if Louisa was disowned for > *marrying out of meeting.* > > Leslie Hope > Carol Thompson CTGD 130 Center Street Clinton, NJ 08809

Copyright questions often arise here at the college. I checked with our director of information services. He confirms that it is a violation of copyright to make multiple copies of any material on which the copyright is still in effect, even if the copies are for personal use and not for profit. Thus Don Cordell was correct to withdraw his offer to copy the Nantucket CD because of the copyright. So when making offers, please be conscious of this. Tom Hamm List Co-Administrator

We're all grateful to people who offer to share information. However, when your response is simply "please send me a copy, too," please send it to the individual making the offer and not to the whole list. Remember that hitting reply posts to all of our subscribers. I need to check on the copyright implications of this. One consideration is whether a genealogist making and distributing multiple copies of a CD, even to people only for their personal use and not for profit, would have an effect on the copyright holder. It seems to me parallel to the cases involving the music industry. Tom Hamm List Co-Administrator

Work by several researchers (Louis Jones and Charles Hansen come immediately to mind) have made a convincing case that William Clayton who married Prudence Lanckford was not connected with the gentry Clayton family in Yorkshire and Lancashire. Tom Hamm >My wife is descended from William Clayton and Prudence Lanckford so, when I >came across the following passage in an old book today (at the Chester >County Historical Society, West Chester, PA), I copied it down. > >I'm not vouching for this in any way, just sharing it. > >The book is mostly about the author's world travels, but he devotes a >chapter or so to his genealogy and memories of growing up in and around >Bethel Township, Delaware Co., PA. > >Mark > > >"I have not been able to trace the family in England further back than 1560, >when Thomas Clayton was the owner of "Clayton Hall" in Yorkshire. > >"They Claytons, according to family tradition, came originally from Sussex, >England, where there was a small town of that name. In the olden time, >surnames did not indicate relationship but location. All the inhabitants of >Claytown (Clayton) took that as their surname. As York was then the >political center of the Kingdom, it was quite natural that the bright young >men of the sleepy old town should migrate to the fashionable metropolis of >England. > >"The first son of Thomas of "Clayton Hall" died a minor. His second son was >William of Okenshaw. He was a barrister of the Inner Temple. He died in >1627. The estate known as "Clayton Hall," descended to Thomas (2) who was >in possession as heir in 1666. He had a son William, who came to this >country in 1671, and is the ancestor of our family, and will be hereafter >called William of Chichester, to distinguish him from the many other William >Claytons that succeeded him. Thomas (2) had also a son, John, who was a >barrister of the Inner Temple. He died April 6, 1666. > >"William of Okenshaw, the grandfather of 'William of Chichester, had a son, >Jasper, who was knighted by his sovereign for some service which is not >stated in the record. He was afterwards called Sir Jasper Clayton." > >Source: Rambles and Reflections: Europe from Biscay to the Black Sea and >from Aetna to the North Cape with Glimpses at Asia, Africa, America and the >Islands of the Sea. By Thomas J. Clayton, 1892. > > >==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Need assistance? Please contact:Quaker-Roots-L-Admin@RootsWeb.com > List Manager for Quaker-Roots-L and Quaker-Roots-D > Now with over 750 subscribers