William J. Manlove d. 3ed month 4th, 1895 60th year of his age. Died at his home in Mountain Grove, Mo. Joined Friends about 1865 Leaves 6 children and wife.

Can anyone help this person? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Proctor" <mmproctor@adelphia.net> To: <WAYNE_IN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 9:57 AM Subject: [Wayne Co Ind] RE: Quaker > > If anyone can assist Betty, please write to her at her email address: > > wwronka@tca.net > > > Thanks !!! > > > Mike P > > -----Original Message----- > From: Walter Wronka [mailto:wwronka@tca.net] > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 7:38 PM > > Subject: Quaker > > Hello, > Do you know anyone that would do lookups for Quaker members before 1835? > Thank you, > Betty Wronka > wwronka@tca.net > > > > >

In response to the question from a researcher about her Thomas family in Ohio/Indiana/midwest....I pulled out my file labelled Trip to Warren County, Ohio 2005. I had copied pages from something labelled: Warren Co. Museum Miami Valley Genealogies Friend's Families by Linday M. Brien I suspect but have not proved that this family is close kin to my Sarah Thomas who married Nehemiah McKinsey and lived in Newberry County, SC until her death. Sarah is believed to be buried in the cemetery that adjoined the Bush River MM. I have never found proof of this, but on a trip to SC several years ago, I found a stone that I believe to mark her grave and took a photo. The Annals of Newberry in part two by John A. Chapman says: Of the Thomas's who emigrated, several are not mentioned. They were Abel, Isaac, John, William, and Nehemiah. They came with considerable families and formed a settlement for a while called Thomastown. ..... Mr. Chapman is talking about the mass exodus of the Quaker families out of the south in the first decade of the 1800's to Ohio and Indiana....and on to other places in the midwest. I am going to give a VERY condensed version of what I copied last fall in Warren County on the family of Isaac and Mary Davy Thomas who moved from SC to the Miami Valley in this time period: This couple settled in Montgomery County in Randolph and Clay Townships are are buried in the Old Friend's Church yard known as South Fork. The church now used by a Menonite congregation and the grave yard almost obliterated. The marriage record of their son, Evan, in 1806, (West Branch MM) states that he is the son of Isaac Thomas, dec'd and Mary. The widow, Mary, with the younger children, Nehemiah, Evan, Sarah, and Phoebe, were accepted at Miami MM at Waynesville, Warren County, May 6, 1807. In the Bush River MM records (Hinshaw) and West Branch MM records (Brien) are found the children of Isaac and Mary Davy Thomas: Edward born 17 Feb 1761 m. Mary Wright and accepte at Miami MM from Bush river with children Isaac, Charity, Prudence, Edward, Elisha, Elijah, Vashti, Abigail, Rachel, Mary and Elihu Isaac b. 1 Feb 1763 in SC m. Sarah Perkins with children John, William, Edward, Elizabeth, Isaac Jr, Nehemiah John b 14 May 1766 in SC m. Anna Pemberton with children Elizabeth, Isaiah, Anna, John, George, William,Sarah Elijah, Abel b. 1 Nov 1768 in SC m. Ruth Pemberton with children William, Isaiah, Mary, Phoebe, Sarah, Ruth, Susanna, Abel, and Elizabeth Mary Elizabeth Evan b. Mar 18 1775 m. Sarah Cox with children Mary, Sarah, Evan, Elizabeth, John, Joanna, Nancy, and Jesse Nehemiah b. 17 Mar 1777 in SC m Elizabeth Pemberton with children Isaac, Esther, Mary, Daniel, James and Anna William m. Sarah Pemberton Prudence is twin to below Sarah Sarah b.Oct 29 1781 m Thomas Thornton Phoebe m David Cox with children David, Priscilla, John, Nehemiah, and Simpson While there is not record for Prudence in this paper, I have a vague memory that she married Phil Hawkins's Hawkins ancestor. I will look that up if anyone wants that information. I suspect that these Thomas's are descendents of the Thomas family that we find at Hopewell MM in the early 1700's...I have worked on these lines for a long time and am interested in any input that anyone has on these lines. Marsha in WV

Hello all. I am looking at <http://www.mendenhall.org/mfa/tng/getperson.php?personID=I23125&tree=Menden hall> and at <http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=rjhoffman&id=I26 00>. The Mendenhall database Della Scott four children, including a daughter Elcy. The 1910 census as shown on Bob Hoffman's site says she has had five children, and shows Elsie as a son. Can anybody help me figure this out? This family is part of a descendancy project I'm working, so I'd also be glad to know about any later generations. -- Dan Treadway P O Box 72 Gilbert IA 50105 treadway@netins.net http://showcase.netins.net/web/treadway/

Hi Marsha, You may be looking for the Jacob Elliott, son of Thomas, brother to Abraham who married Miriam Newby (widow) Lamb. Jacob was married in 1734 to Sarah Clare and to Zilpha Davenport, and would have been up in years in 1812. he died in 1828. His son Exum was born in Perquimans Co., NC in 1754, but he and his wife Catherine Lamb and chn went to Wayne Co. in 1815, Whitewater MM. It could be that his father had gone there before him. Let me know what you find. Billie Lee On Saturday, February 26, 2005, at 03:03 PM, marsha moses wrote: > Several of us have been chatting about Quaker lines connected to my > Abraham Elliott and his parents and children. As part of the > discussion, I was sent the below information. > I am interested in knowing if anyone can identify the old man, Jacob > Elliott mentioned in the below. Thanks for any help that you can give > me. marsha in WV > > History of Wayne County (Indiana) by Andrew W. Young--published by > Robert Clark & Co. 1872 > > p. 75-77. > > During the war of 1812, Indian alarms were frequent, and the > inhabitants were kept constantly in a case of disquiet. The lands > purchased in 1809" called the "Twelve mile purchase," were settled > rather slowly. A few settlements were commenced before the lands were > surveyed. But during the war few ventured far beyond the older > settlements. Notwithstanding, forts and block houses were built for > the protection of the inhabitants, many, especially those in the more > sparsely settled places, left their new homes, and removed to places > of greater security. Some took up a temporary abode among the denser > population of Wayne township; others passed the state line into Ohio. > > After a series of successes which attended our arms against the > British and the Indians, among which was the capture by, Commodore > Perry, of the British fleet on Lake Erie in 1813, the Miamis, > Pottawattamies, and other tribes, sued for peace with the United > States. An armistice was agreed on; and in July, 1814, a council was > held at Greenville, Ohio, where a treaty of peace was negotiated by > Gen. Wm. H. Harrison and Gov. Lewis Cass, Commissioneers on the part > of the United States. There were present at this council about 4,000 > souls, chiefly Miamis, Weas, Delawares, Shawnees, and Wyandots. > > To the incidents connected with the war of 1812, related in the > foregoing pages, it is deemed proper to add, that this war was a > source of much trouble to the Friends. They were much harassed on > account of their refusal to do military duty. Some were repeatedly > drafted and fined; and their property was sold at an enormous > sacrifice to pay the fines. A valuable wagon, for instance, was sold > at auction for five dollars, and various other kinds of property in > about the same proportion. Four young men were imprisoned in the > county jail in winter; and to extort from them a promise of > compliance, fire was denied them. Their sufferings must have been > intolerable but for the partial relief afforded them by Dr. David F. > Sackett, the county Recorder, and Jesse Bond, then living where > Earlham College now is; the former handing hot bricks through the > grates, and the latter blankets. "Suits," says Judge Hoover, "were > subsequently brought against the officers for false imprisonment. The > trials were had in Brookville, in Franklin County. They all recovered > damages; but I have every reason to believe that the whole of the > damages and costs was paid out of moneys extorted from others of the > Friends. To cap the climax of absurdity and outrage, the gentlemen > officers arrested an old man named Jacob Elliott, and tried him by > court-marital for treason, found him guilty and sentenced him to be > shot! But gave him a chance to run away in the dark, they firing off > their guns at the same time." Many other instances of cruelty to these > people might be given. > > > > > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Visit The Quaker Corner - http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers > > >

Several of us have been chatting about Quaker lines connected to my Abraham Elliott and his parents and children. As part of the discussion, I was sent the below information. I am interested in knowing if anyone can identify the old man, Jacob Elliott mentioned in the below. Thanks for any help that you can give me. marsha in WV History of Wayne County (Indiana) by Andrew W. Young--published by Robert Clark & Co. 1872 p. 75-77. During the war of 1812, Indian alarms were frequent, and the inhabitants were kept constantly in a case of disquiet. The lands purchased in 1809" called the "Twelve mile purchase," were settled rather slowly. A few settlements were commenced before the lands were surveyed. But during the war few ventured far beyond the older settlements. Notwithstanding, forts and block houses were built for the protection of the inhabitants, many, especially those in the more sparsely settled places, left their new homes, and removed to places of greater security. Some took up a temporary abode among the denser population of Wayne township; others passed the state line into Ohio. After a series of successes which attended our arms against the British and the Indians, among which was the capture by, Commodore Perry, of the British fleet on Lake Erie in 1813, the Miamis, Pottawattamies, and other tribes, sued for peace with the United States. An armistice was agreed on; and in July, 1814, a council was held at Greenville, Ohio, where a treaty of peace was negotiated by Gen. Wm. H. Harrison and Gov. Lewis Cass, Commissioneers on the part of the United States. There were present at this council about 4,000 souls, chiefly Miamis, Weas, Delawares, Shawnees, and Wyandots. To the incidents connected with the war of 1812, related in the foregoing pages, it is deemed proper to add, that this war was a source of much trouble to the Friends. They were much harassed on account of their refusal to do military duty. Some were repeatedly drafted and fined; and their property was sold at an enormous sacrifice to pay the fines. A valuable wagon, for instance, was sold at auction for five dollars, and various other kinds of property in about the same proportion. Four young men were imprisoned in the county jail in winter; and to extort from them a promise of compliance, fire was denied them. Their sufferings must have been intolerable but for the partial relief afforded them by Dr. David F. Sackett, the county Recorder, and Jesse Bond, then living where Earlham College now is; the former handing hot bricks through the grates, and the latter blankets. "Suits," says Judge Hoover, "were subsequently brought against the officers for false imprisonment. The trials were had in Brookville, in Franklin County. They all recovered damages; but I have every reason to believe that the whole of the damages and costs was paid out of moneys extorted from others of the Friends. To cap the climax of absurdity and outrage, the gentlemen officers arrested an old man named Jacob Elliott, and tried him by court-marital for treason, found him guilty and sentenced him to be shot! But gave him a chance to run away in the dark, they firing off their guns at the same time." Many other instances of cruelty to these people might be given.

Dale Harguess, I can't tell you very much, but I did go lookup Manlove WHEELER: "JOHN3 WHEELER (JOHN2, JOHN1) was born 1725 in Sussex, Delaware, and died 1779 in Guilford County, North Carolina. He married KEZIA MANLOVE Unknown, daughter of WILLIAM MANLOVE and ELIZABETH BROWNE. Child of JOHN WHEELER and KEZIA MANLOVE is: 4.i. MANLOVE4 WHEELER , SR., b. Abt. 1748, Kent County, Delware; d. January 03, 1826, Guilford County, North Carolina" http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/h/e/Darryl-L-Wheeler/GENE3-0003.html FamilyTreeMaker. ************* The widow, Mary (KENDALL) MENDENHALL, md. 2ndly, Manlove WHEELER, a widower; and there are no childern of this marriage. From an email that I recived, it stated: "Mary Kendall came into the Wheeler household and became stepmother of 6 Wheeler children; Hemy16/Keziah17/Charity16/Hannah12/Manlove7/Jonathan5". They were the children of Manlove & Hannah (MILLS) WHEELER. Mary (Kendall) Mendenhall was the widow of Elijah Mendenhall, s/o James J. & 2nd w., Hannah Thomas -- this is my Mendenhall Line.; and Mary was my 4G-Grandmother Mendenhall.. I researched this in early 1999, so go to QUAKER-ROOTS Archives for Jan/Feb.1999 and I also posted to GenForum - Wheeler Family. Perhaps there is a MANLOVE Family Forum on GenForum. Violet Moore Guy 02/25/2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess@coastline.edu> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:32 AM Subject: RE: [Q-R] Nana's scrapbook >I am very interested in anything about the Manlove family. > Dale in California > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joan Whitney [mailto:jwhitney@pacifier.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:22 PM > To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Q-R] Nana's scrapbook > > My Nana, Cordelia Carey Mendenhall Carter died 24 years ago at the age > of 96. She was a life long Quaker. She lived in Oklahoma, Iowa > (Marshall Co) Indiana , California, and Oregon. She also belonged to > several organizations over the years. Years ago, she gave me an old > scrap book with newspaper clippings, announcements, and miscellaneous > stuff she found interesting. Included are many names of early Quakers > (from 1850 onward), and information about them. Some are listed as > belonging to other churches but I know they are decendents of Quakers. > Some I don't know anything other than what is listed in the scrap book. > What I want to know is if anyone is interested in me transcribing the > personnel information from this collection to this web site, even though > some my not be related? Some of the names are Mendenhall, Carter, > Manlove, Hooker, Jorns, Pierson, Field, Malsam, Turley, Hollingsworth, > Hall, Mellott, Carey, Heimbach, Rev. C.G. Tamplin, a long list of Bangor > Iowa sc! > hool pupils and teachers at a reunion in 1938, Jacquess, Limbocker, > Brink, Dr. B.H. Beane, Thornton, Rev. C.A. Hadley, Moore, Stanfield, > Coffin and many more. Joan Whitney > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Need assistance? Please contact:Quaker-Roots-L-Admin@RootsWeb.com > List Manager for Quaker-Roots-L and Quaker-Roots-D > Now with over 750 subscribers > > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Visit The Quaker Corner - http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers > >

Q-Rs: This was written last evening late and for some reason, I most have clicked only sender's name and not the Quaker mailing list. So here is my Mendenhall Search! Joan: I believe that I have worked with you before and that you are from Oregon or Washington State? I grew-up out in the wheat farming country of Wasco Co., Oregon, 25 miles SE of The Dalles. and about 45 due east of Mt. Hood. I lived on the family lands of the MOOREs and the house was on the BLM land of my G-Grandmother, the widow, Elvira (Mendenhall) Moore, d/o Himelius & Pricilla (Coffin) Mendenhall, NC>IN, with Priscilla following some of her children to IA. after her husband's death. Priscilla is named for her Grandmother, Priscilla (Paddock) Coffin. (I will mention them again at the end of this post.) http://www.mendenhall.org Mendenhall Family Association I did a couple of SEARCHs on the above website. Is this your Nana? I found a Cordelia Camille Mendenhall md. Rutherfore Hayes (RH) Carter; and one of her "sources of information" is listed as Rick Carter. The dates are consistant with what you gave. Her parents and her children are listed. Backing up the genealogy tree, I find John Mendenhall, Jr. m. Susanne Pierson, d/o Thomas Pierson & Rose Dixon. Susanne Peirson's sister, Rose Pierson married John's brother, Aaron Mendenhall, Aaron & Rose (Pierson) Mendenhall are my ancestors.. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Cordelia Camille Mendenhall[1,2,3] Home Search Individual Pedigree Descendancy Relationship Timeline Login Birth 22 Feb 1885 Bangor, Marshall Co, IA Sex Female Died 11 Mar 1981 Newberg, Yamhill Co, OR Buried Portland, OR Person ID I38189 Mendenhall Last Modified 31 Dec 2004 Father James Owen Mendenhall, b. 02 Feb 1854, Grey, IN Mother Hessie Roxanna Northum, b. 05 Jun 1855, Guilford Co, NC Group Sheet F36001 Mendenhall Family 1 Rutherford Hayes (RH) Carter, b. 10 Nov 1876, Union, Marshall Co, IA Married 11 Oct 1905 Agra, OK Children 1. Wanda Josephine Carter, b. 01 Jul 1906, Peru, Chautauqua Co, KS 2. Edna Lavern Carter, b. 22 Mar 1908, Long Beach, LA Co, CA 3. Helen Gertrude Carter, b. 13 Jan 1910, Portland, Multnomah Co, OR 4. Homer Richard Carter, b. 14 Jan 1912, Portland, Multnomah Co, OR 5. Faye Carter 6. (Daughter) Carter Group Sheet F38190 Mendenhall Sources 1. [S0507] The Mendenhalls: A Genealogy, Henry Hart Beeson, 1969, LDS film #1318059 2. [S0546] International Genealogical Index, LDS CD-ROM, 1990 3. [S1580] Rick Carter, 541-924-3642, ricknwillee@uswestmail.net ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Let me know if this is the right person. And let me know about COFFIN as most of the Coffins that went through the midwest were descendents of William & Priscilla (Paddock) Coffin, Nantucket, MA>Guilford, Co., NC. They were Quakers. Let me know if this is the right person. And let me know about COFFIN as most of the Coffins that went through the midwest were descendents of William & Priscilla (Paddock) Coffin, Nantucket, MA>Guilford, Co., NC. They were Quakers in Nantuacket, MA, Guilford Co., NC and began leaving the Quaker religion while still in Indiana., as many of the Coffin descendents did. My G-Grandmother, Elvira Mendenhall's husband, Rev. Hiram C. Moore became a Lay preacher of the Methodist Eposcopal Church in Harrison Co., Iowa; abd Elvira's brother was Rev. Marmaduke H. Mendenhall, an outstanding Methodist Episcopal Minister in Indiana. Violet Moore Guy 02/26/2004. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Whitney" <jwhitney@pacifier.com> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:22 PM Subject: [Q-R] Nana's scrapbook > My Nana, Cordelia Carey Mendenhall Carter died 24 years ago at the age of > 96. She was a life long Quaker. She lived in Oklahoma, Iowa (Marshall Co) > Indiana , California, and Oregon. She also belonged to several > organizations over the years. Years ago, she gave me an old scrap book > with newspaper clippings, announcements, and miscellaneous stuff she found > interesting. Included are many names of early Quakers (from 1850 onward), > and information about them. Some are listed as belonging to other > churches but I know they are decendents of Quakers. Some I don't know > anything other than what is listed in the scrap book. What I want to know > is if anyone is interested in me transcribing the personnel information > from this collection to this web site, even though some my not be related? > Some of the names are Mendenhall, Carter, Manlove, Hooker, Jorns, Pierson, > Field, Malsam, Turley, Hollingsworth, Hall, Mellott, Carey, Heimbach, Rev. > C.G. Tamplin, a long list of Bangor Iowa sc! > hool pupils and teachers at a reunion in 1938, Jacquess, Limbocker, Brink, > Dr. B.H. Beane, Thornton, Rev. C.A. Hadley, Moore, Stanfield, Coffin and > many more. Joan Whitney > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Need assistance? Please contact:Quaker-Roots-L-Admin@RootsWeb.com > List Manager for Quaker-Roots-L and Quaker-Roots-D > Now with over 750 subscribers > >

I am very interested in anything about the Manlove family. Dale in California -----Original Message----- From: Joan Whitney [mailto:jwhitney@pacifier.com] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:22 PM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Q-R] Nana's scrapbook My Nana, Cordelia Carey Mendenhall Carter died 24 years ago at the age of 96. She was a life long Quaker. She lived in Oklahoma, Iowa (Marshall Co) Indiana , California, and Oregon. She also belonged to several organizations over the years. Years ago, she gave me an old scrap book with newspaper clippings, announcements, and miscellaneous stuff she found interesting. Included are many names of early Quakers (from 1850 onward), and information about them. Some are listed as belonging to other churches but I know they are decendents of Quakers. Some I don't know anything other than what is listed in the scrap book. What I want to know is if anyone is interested in me transcribing the personnel information from this collection to this web site, even though some my not be related? Some of the names are Mendenhall, Carter, Manlove, Hooker, Jorns, Pierson, Field, Malsam, Turley, Hollingsworth, Hall, Mellott, Carey, Heimbach, Rev. C.G. Tamplin, a long list of Bangor Iowa sc! hool pupils and teachers at a reunion in 1938, Jacquess, Limbocker, Brink, Dr. B.H. Beane, Thornton, Rev. C.A. Hadley, Moore, Stanfield, Coffin and many more. Joan Whitney ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Need assistance? Please contact:Quaker-Roots-L-Admin@RootsWeb.com List Manager for Quaker-Roots-L and Quaker-Roots-D Now with over 750 subscribers

Joan, how very kind of you, but why don't you wait for people to ask about specific names before you begin to transcribe. Can you scan any of the items? Jerry M. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joan Whitney To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:22 PM Subject: [Q-R] Nana's scrapbook My Nana, Cordelia Carey Mendenhall Carter died 24 years ago at the age of 96. She was a life long Quaker. She lived in Oklahoma, Iowa (Marshall Co) Indiana , California, and Oregon. She also belonged to several organizations over the years. Years ago, she gave me an old scrap book with newspaper clippings, announcements, and miscellaneous stuff she found interesting. Included are many names of early Quakers (from 1850 onward), and information about them. Some are listed as belonging to other churches but I know they are decendents of Quakers. Some I don't know anything other than what is listed in the scrap book. What I want to know is if anyone is interested in me transcribing the personnel information from this collection to this web site, even though some my not be related? Some of the names are Mendenhall, Carter, Manlove, Hooker, Jorns, Pierson, Field, Malsam, Turley, Hollingsworth, Hall, Mellott, Carey, Heimbach, Rev. C.G. Tamplin, a long list of Bangor Iowa ! sc! hool pupils and teachers at a reunion in 1938, Jacquess, Limbocker, Brink, Dr. B.H. Beane, Thornton, Rev. C.A. Hadley, Moore, Stanfield, Coffin and many more. Joan Whitney ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Need assistance? Please contact:Quaker-Roots-L-Admin@RootsWeb.com List Manager for Quaker-Roots-L and Quaker-Roots-D Now with over 750 subscribers

My Nana, Cordelia Carey Mendenhall Carter died 24 years ago at the age of 96. She was a life long Quaker. She lived in Oklahoma, Iowa (Marshall Co) Indiana , California, and Oregon. She also belonged to several organizations over the years. Years ago, she gave me an old scrap book with newspaper clippings, announcements, and miscellaneous stuff she found interesting. Included are many names of early Quakers (from 1850 onward), and information about them. Some are listed as belonging to other churches but I know they are decendents of Quakers. Some I don't know anything other than what is listed in the scrap book. What I want to know is if anyone is interested in me transcribing the personnel information from this collection to this web site, even though some my not be related? Some of the names are Mendenhall, Carter, Manlove, Hooker, Jorns, Pierson, Field, Malsam, Turley, Hollingsworth, Hall, Mellott, Carey, Heimbach, Rev. C.G. Tamplin, a long list of Bangor Iowa sc! hool pupils and teachers at a reunion in 1938, Jacquess, Limbocker, Brink, Dr. B.H. Beane, Thornton, Rev. C.A. Hadley, Moore, Stanfield, Coffin and many more. Joan Whitney

Thanks so much to Tom Hamm for correcting my repetition of the mistake in Willard's extracted ancestry. The parents of Isaac W Thornburg: Joab Thornburg, b.21 Jan 1795; son of Isaac Thornbrough (1773 - ?) & Rebecca Hodgson (1773-1832) d.30 Dec 1882, Randolph co,IN Marr. ----- Betsey Holloway, b.17 Sep 1793, Bedford co,Va; dau of Wiliam Holloway (c1768- ? ) & Sarah Stanley (c1770 - ?) [marr. 19 Jul 1790, South River MM,VA] d.27 Feb 1884, Randolph co,IN ------------ the grandmother is incorrectly shown as Rebecca HOBSON; it should be HODGSON; Rebecca Hodgson, b.24 Oct 1773, Guilford co,NC; dau of Joseph Hodgson (c1740-c1829) & 1st wife Margaret Williams (c1743-c1800) d.24 Jul 1832, Randolph co,IN -------------- Regards, Jerry Richmond You are cordially invited to visit "The Quaker Collection" http://home.sprynet.com/~jrichmon/qkrcoll.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Hamm" <tomh@earlham.edu> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [Q-R] RE: Thornburg > Yes, the oldest son of Isaac W. and Rhoda (Lamb) Thornburg was > Jonathan, born in 1845. There was a son John Harvey Thornburg who > was born in 1853. Isaac and Rhoda had 12 children, all boys. > Willard Heiss, who was their great-grandson, said that Rhoda could > never keep a hired girl because one of the sons would marry her. > > Isaac W. was the son of Joab and Elizabeth (Holloway) Thornburg and > grandson of Isaac and Rebecca. The abstract you found is wrong, > something that embarrassed Willard--he made one of his rare mistakes > on his own family. Isaac W. was born 12th Mo. 4, 1822. If you will > check the same volume of the Heiss abstracts under Dunkirk Monthly > Meeting of Anti-Slavery Friends you will find birth dates for Isaac > and Rhoda as well as the record of their marriage, which gives their > parents' names. > > Tom Hamm > > > > >Hi List, > > > >In my Lamb records, the son of Rhoda Lamb and Isaac Thornburg Jr, > >who was born 25 June 1845, was named Jonathan, not John. I also > >found this in the Thornburg records. Am I wrong? Can anyone prove, > >or disprove this? > > > >Another puzzle: > >The Quaker source, "Sparrow Creek-Poplar Run" minutes, clearly > >states that Isaac was the son of Isaac Thornburg and Rebecca Hobson. > >The same minutes name Joab, born 1795, and Job born 1800, as his > >brothers. This needs to be proved. > > > > I found Isaac Thornburg Jr. birthday as 4 Dec "1826" and married > >10 May 1842. I wonder if it should be "1806" which would make him > >aged 36 when he married. Does anyone know about this? > > > > > > > > > > > >On Tuesday, February 22, 2005, at 06:53 PM, S. Newton wrote: > > > >>I find Isaac and Rhoda in Jacquelyn Nelson's book: Indiana Quakers Confront > >>the Civil War (1991, Indiana Historical Soc., 303p., p.224 & 288) as Quaker > >>parents from Sparrow Creek MM (existed 1861-69) of John W. Thornburg, > >>Randolph Co, IN, b. 25 June 1845, a "Sergeant", (enlisted?) at 17, > >>served with > >>Company K, 84th Regiment in the Civil War. > >> > >>Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 > >>Subject: Thornburg, Heiss > >> > >>Hello, I am seeking information about the following family: > >>Isaac W. Thornburg b. 1822 married Rhoda Lamb. Their son Restore Thornburg > >>married _____Cox. They had a daughter named Lorette Thornburg b. > >>1880 in IN. She > >>married Calvin Heiss in 1899. The Heiss family lived in Randolph County, IN. > >>I believe that the Thornburgs and Lambs also lived in Randolph County, IN. > >>Does anyone know if this family was Quaker? Does anyone know anything else > >>about them? Does anyone know if their were Quaker families in > >>Randolph Co., IN > >>with the last name of Heiss? I have the names of these couples other children > >>if that would help. Does anyone know of a connection between them and a > >>Quaker Pyle or Stout family? > >> > >>Thanks for any help! > >>Sincerely, Susan E. Davis > >> > >> > >>==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > >>Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On > >>http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >> > >> > >Billie Lee Smith > >Box 476 > >Bucklin, KS 67834 > >620-826-3274 > > > > > >==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: > > QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com > > The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE. > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: > QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com > The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE. >

In a message dated 2/24/2005 9:04:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, dmurach@starstream.net writes: Does anyone have a good recommendation of a website or book to learn more about the abbreviations and short definitions found in Hinshaw? I'm finding the terminology not expansive enough to enable me to understand the complete meaning of what this meant to the member? Your suggestions would be appreciated. --- Diane- See: << http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=topics.religious.quaker.q uaker-roots&m=727 >> ...for many of the abbreviations. Note that this is a two line URL -- be sure to get it all--it is message # 727 on the Quaker RootsWeb Message Board at RootsWeb/Ancestry. Joan

List - To add to what Tom Hamm had to say, and to contibute further to the ancestry of a great Quaker scholar, Willard Heiss: Isaac William Thornburg, b.4 Dec 1822, OH; son of Isaac Thornburg (1773- ?) & Rebeccas Hodgson (1773-1832) d.11 Jun 1899, Randolph co,IN Marr. 10 May 1843, Cabin Creek MH, under auspices of Dunkirk Anti-Slavery MM, Randolph co,IN Rhoda Lamb, 16 Oct 1826, Wayne co,IN; dau of Hosea Lamb (1790-1857) & Mary Cook (1800-1877) d.14 Mar 1895, Randolph co,IN -Dunkirk/Cabin Creek (A-S) MM was discontinued in 1856 & members reverted to Sparrow Creek/Poplar Run (Orthodox) MM ------------- Restore Thornburg, 24 Mar 1851, Randlph co,IN; son of above; d.17 Jun 1934, Randolph co,IN Marr. abt 1876, Randolph co,IN Annette Cox, b. 1 Jul 1857; dau of Simeon Cox (c1830- ?) & Rosanna Hiatt (1831-1912) d. 9 Jun 1934, Randolph co,IN ------------- Simeon Cox, b.abt 1830, Randolph co,IN; son of John Cox (1802- ?) & Hepsa Hiatt (1808- ?) Marr. 15 Aug 1850, Randolph co,IN Rosanna Hiatt, b.13 Sep 1831, Randolph co,IN; dau of Richard Hiatt (1808-1860) & Charlotte Coats (1812-1888) Hepsa Hiatt was dau of Zachariah Hiatt (1779- ? ) & Anna Coffin (1777- ?) and not closely related to Rosanna Hiatt -------------- Regards, Jerry Richmond You are cordially invited to visit "The Quaker Collection" http://home.sprynet.com/~jrichmon/qkrcoll.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Hamm" <tomh@earlham.edu> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [Q-R] Thornburg, Heiss > Restore Thornburg married Annettie Cox. Calvin and Loretta > (Thornburg) Heiss's youngest son was Willard Heiss (1921-1988), who > was one of the great Quaker genealogists of the twentieth century, > and a good friend of mine. All of these families lived in Randolph > County, Indiana. Here at Earlham College we have Willard Heiss's > files and papers, with extensive information on all of these families. > > The Heisses were originally Lutherans. They moved to Randolph County > from Galion, Ohio. Their Quaker connections came with marriages into > Quaker families. > > > Tom Hamm > > >Hello, > > > >I am seeking information about the following family: > > > >Isaac W. Thornburg b. 1822 married Rhoda Lamb. Their son Restore Thornburg > >married _____Cox. They had a daughter named Lorette Thornburg b. > >1880 in IN. She > >married Calvin Heiss in 1899. The Heiss family lived in Randolph County, IN. > >I believe that the Thornburgs and Lambs also lived in Randolph County, IN. > > > >Does anyone know if this family was Quaker? Does anyone know anything else > >about them? Does anyone know if their were Quaker families in Randolph Co., IN > >with the last name of Heiss? I have the names of these couples other children > >if that would help. > > > >Does anyone know of a connection between them and a Quaker Pyle or Stout > >family? > > > >Thanks for any help! > > > >Sincerely, > > > >Susan E. Davis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: > > QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com > > The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE. > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: > QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com > The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE. >

Does anyone have a good recommendation of a website or book to learn more about the abbreviations and short definitions found in Hinshaw? I'm finding the terminology not expansive enough to enable me to understand the complete meaning of what this meant to the member? Your suggestions would be appreciated. Diane

Bonnie, Your posting is a few days old, but I can't see where anyone replied to you. I have Willard Heiss' Abstracts of the Records of the Society of Friends in Indiana, Part Four, which contains abstracts of the Walnut Ridge Monthly Meeting minutes. The Heiss abstracts are available in many better libraries--it would not surprise me if Anderson Public Library has them. Complete minutes are even better--see below. I did not find Dayton KYSER mentioned under Walnut Ridge or any other meeting in western Henry or Rush Counties. The Hancock County meetings are in a different volume (which I don't have). Mary Ellen HENBY is included in a family listing in Walnut Ridge. Let me know if you'd like me to transcribe the names and dates as they appear there. It names her parents, grandparents, stepmother and siblings, with partial dates. Her burial at Walnut Ridge is NOT noted, but one of her siblings' is. There is a minute dated 6-16-1877 which states that William B HENBY, wife Catherine and children were received on certificate from Westland Monthly Meeting. (Membership transfer. Westland is in rural Hancock County.) Another minute states that on 6-16-1883 William B HENBY was released on request. The family is not mentioned again. I think that this means that Mr. Henby left the Friends, possibly taking his family with him. They would not have had to be members for burial in the Friends cemetery. There might be more information in the actual minutes. I see that you are in Anderson--Walnut Ridge is about an hour away. With an appointment, you could probably see the records and visit the cemetery in one field trip--and you might want to visit Westland Friends too, just a few miles away. Many Indiana meetings have bound copies of their complete minutes on site, courtesy of the Earlham Archives (which is protecting many of the originals). However, some of the older minutes were lost between the time the abstracts were done and the time Earlham's service became available. Email me off list if you need phone numbers and directions. Have you looked for a civil marriage license for your couple? Given their location, you'd have three possible counties to check--Walnut Ridge is in Rush County but very close to both Henry and Hancock Counties. Best of luck, Penny Sitler Knightstown, IN >______________________________X-Message: #5 >Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 17:35:06 -0500 >From: "Bonnie Lyons" <mbonlyons@netusa1.net> >To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <003901c516d3$43fd9550$2ac3e004@DGK4J631> >Subject: Dayton M KYSER/ Mary Ellen HENBY mar Indiana c. 1885 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > >Hello Listers, > >Does anyone know the date and place for the marriage of my gr >grandparents, Dayton M KYSER and Mary Ellen "Mollie" HENBY? They had been >married 15 years according to the 1900 Hancock Co IN Blue River Twp >census. The Walnut Ridge Friends Meeting and Cemetery are just east of the >Hancock/Rush County line. Could they have been married at Walnut Ridge? >How could I access those records? Dayton H and Mollie are both buried at >Walnut Ridge although his funeral services were held in the Friend's >church in Dublin, IN. Thanks for any help. > >Bonnie Lyons >Anderson, IN > >Coffin/Kyser/Henby/Peacock/George/Adams/Grow/Lawrence

I believe Heiss was correct & Tom Hill is mistaken. At the time set off from White Lick MM, Fairfield MM was in Hendricks County, however I think a majority of its membership resided in Marion co,IN (notably at Easton (West Newton), & Beech Grove as well as Richland MM in Hamilton co,IN as well as at Plainfield MM, Hendricks co,IN. One researcher refers to the old Fairlield Mtg House in Hendricks County, near Camby [in Marion co,IN]. Camby is just across the County Line . Regards, Jerry Richmond You are cordially invited to visit "The Quaker Collection" http://home.sprynet.com/~jrichmon/qkrcoll.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Treadway" <treadway@netins.net> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:08 PM Subject: [Q-R] Where is/was Fairfield MM, Indiana? > Following Willard Heiss' /Abstracts of the Records of the Society of Friends > in Indiana/, part 6, page 1, I have been citing Fairfield Monthly Meeting as > being in Hendricks County. It has now been pointed out to me that Tom > Hill's index at > <http://www.quakermeetings.com/viewRecord_display?anID=TST690L> gives a > location in Marion County. Did the meeting or the county line move at some > point, or is one of these sources in error? > > -- > Dan Treadway > P O Box 72 Gilbert IA 50105 > treadway@netins.net > http://showcase.netins.net/web/treadway/ > > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Yes, the oldest son of Isaac W. and Rhoda (Lamb) Thornburg was Jonathan, born in 1845. There was a son John Harvey Thornburg who was born in 1853. Isaac and Rhoda had 12 children, all boys. Willard Heiss, who was their great-grandson, said that Rhoda could never keep a hired girl because one of the sons would marry her. Isaac W. was the son of Joab and Elizabeth (Holloway) Thornburg and grandson of Isaac and Rebecca. The abstract you found is wrong, something that embarrassed Willard--he made one of his rare mistakes on his own family. Isaac W. was born 12th Mo. 4, 1822. If you will check the same volume of the Heiss abstracts under Dunkirk Monthly Meeting of Anti-Slavery Friends you will find birth dates for Isaac and Rhoda as well as the record of their marriage, which gives their parents' names. Tom Hamm >Hi List, > >In my Lamb records, the son of Rhoda Lamb and Isaac Thornburg Jr, >who was born 25 June 1845, was named Jonathan, not John. I also >found this in the Thornburg records. Am I wrong? Can anyone prove, >or disprove this? > >Another puzzle: >The Quaker source, "Sparrow Creek-Poplar Run" minutes, clearly >states that Isaac was the son of Isaac Thornburg and Rebecca Hobson. >The same minutes name Joab, born 1795, and Job born 1800, as his >brothers. This needs to be proved. > > I found Isaac Thornburg Jr. birthday as 4 Dec "1826" and married >10 May 1842. I wonder if it should be "1806" which would make him >aged 36 when he married. Does anyone know about this? > > > > > >On Tuesday, February 22, 2005, at 06:53 PM, S. Newton wrote: > >>I find Isaac and Rhoda in Jacquelyn Nelson's book: Indiana Quakers Confront >>the Civil War (1991, Indiana Historical Soc., 303p., p.224 & 288) as Quaker >>parents from Sparrow Creek MM (existed 1861-69) of John W. Thornburg, >>Randolph Co, IN, b. 25 June 1845, a "Sergeant", (enlisted?) at 17, >>served with >>Company K, 84th Regiment in the Civil War. >> >>Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 >>Subject: Thornburg, Heiss >> >>Hello, I am seeking information about the following family: >>Isaac W. Thornburg b. 1822 married Rhoda Lamb. Their son Restore Thornburg >>married _____Cox. They had a daughter named Lorette Thornburg b. >>1880 in IN. She >>married Calvin Heiss in 1899. The Heiss family lived in Randolph County, IN. >>I believe that the Thornburgs and Lambs also lived in Randolph County, IN. >>Does anyone know if this family was Quaker? Does anyone know anything else >>about them? Does anyone know if their were Quaker families in >>Randolph Co., IN >>with the last name of Heiss? I have the names of these couples other children >>if that would help. Does anyone know of a connection between them and a >>Quaker Pyle or Stout family? >> >>Thanks for any help! >>Sincerely, Susan E. Davis >> >> >>==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >>Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On >>http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >> >Billie Lee Smith >Box 476 >Bucklin, KS 67834 >620-826-3274 > > >==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: > QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com > The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE.

Hi List, In my Lamb records, the son of Rhoda Lamb and Isaac Thornburg Jr, who was born 25 June 1845, was named Jonathan, not John. I also found this in the Thornburg records. Am I wrong? Can anyone prove, or disprove this? Another puzzle: The Quaker source, “Sparrow Creek-Poplar Run” minutes, clearly states that Isaac was the son of Isaac Thornburg and Rebecca Hobson. The same minutes name Joab, born 1795, and Job born 1800, as his brothers. This needs to be proved. I found Isaac Thornburg Jr. birthday as 4 Dec "1826" and married 10 May 1842. I wonder if it should be "1806" which would make him aged 36 when he married. Does anyone know about this? On Tuesday, February 22, 2005, at 06:53 PM, S. Newton wrote: > I find Isaac and Rhoda in Jacquelyn Nelson's book: Indiana Quakers > Confront > the Civil War (1991, Indiana Historical Soc., 303p., p.224 & 288) as > Quaker > parents from Sparrow Creek MM (existed 1861-69) of John W. Thornburg, > Randolph Co, IN, b. 25 June 1845, a "Sergeant", (enlisted?) at 17, > served with > Company K, 84th Regiment in the Civil War. > > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 > Subject: Thornburg, Heiss > > Hello, I am seeking information about the following family: > Isaac W. Thornburg b. 1822 married Rhoda Lamb. Their son Restore > Thornburg > married _____Cox. They had a daughter named Lorette Thornburg b. 1880 > in IN. She > married Calvin Heiss in 1899. The Heiss family lived in Randolph > County, IN. > I believe that the Thornburgs and Lambs also lived in Randolph County, > IN. > Does anyone know if this family was Quaker? Does anyone know anything > else > about them? Does anyone know if their were Quaker families in Randolph > Co., IN > with the last name of Heiss? I have the names of these couples other > children > if that would help. Does anyone know of a connection between them and > a > Quaker Pyle or Stout family? > > Thanks for any help! > Sincerely, Susan E. Davis > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Quaker-Roots Archives - Search List Messages From 1996 On > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > Billie Lee Smith Box 476 Bucklin, KS 67834 620-826-3274

I find Isaac and Rhoda in Jacquelyn Nelson's book: Indiana Quakers Confront the Civil War (1991, Indiana Historical Soc., 303p., p.224 & 288) as Quaker parents from Sparrow Creek MM (existed 1861-69) of John W. Thornburg, Randolph Co, IN, b. 25 June 1845, a "Sergeant", (enlisted?) at 17, served with Company K, 84th Regiment in the Civil War. Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 Subject: Thornburg, Heiss Hello, I am seeking information about the following family: Isaac W. Thornburg b. 1822 married Rhoda Lamb. Their son Restore Thornburg married _____Cox. They had a daughter named Lorette Thornburg b. 1880 in IN. She married Calvin Heiss in 1899. The Heiss family lived in Randolph County, IN. I believe that the Thornburgs and Lambs also lived in Randolph County, IN. Does anyone know if this family was Quaker? Does anyone know anything else about them? Does anyone know if their were Quaker families in Randolph Co., IN with the last name of Heiss? I have the names of these couples other children if that would help. Does anyone know of a connection between them and a Quaker Pyle or Stout family? Thanks for any help! Sincerely, Susan E. Davis