Has anyone who has access to the Quaker records, especially Indiana (Morgan, Hendricks County) seen a record of a divorce or ousting of a William or Obed Morgan and Lydia? The record might be anywhere but Indiana is where they both ended up but in different adjoining counties. There seems to be no record of William's demise or separation that I can find and the 1840 records for WhiteWater Meeting were mysteriously missing when I went to read them at Earlham Collage in Indiana. Thanks to anyone who can shed light on the mystery of William and wife. Susan sbarrett1@sbcglobal.net

In a message dated 3/26/2005 1:26:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, CageyCat writes: > Hi Joan, > > The only Scots-Irish mention is the Bio/History about John's grandson, Jacob > D. Lane. Same bio said John left his parents because he was opposed to > slavery and the parents had slaves. Whether the bio is right or not is unproven > either way. > > I looked at the Lehn family, but I thought -- am I wrong? -- that John, > Jacob and Peter LEHN sold their mill in Fred Co MD, went to York (a couple times > back &forth to York &Fred Cos)... and finally all 3 stayed in York Co PA?? > We researched part of LEHN as far as we could in Fred Co &as much as we could > through professional searchers in York Co PA. IF we could tie our Johnn to a > missing John in the LEHN family, great. But I don't want to latch onto the > wrong family either. Do you know what happened to the John in the will? > > The LEHNs fit the bio in terms of John's father supposedly being in Rev War > -- I think Peter or Jacob LEHN was in Rev War. > > Arnolds were also in Brethren Church, as were the York Co LEHNs. Do you > know in York any other Brethren families that lived in the same area? > > Do you know if the LEHNs in York Co were ever slaveholders? > > It's so hard figuring this out. I know we have no Peter in our LANE line > anywhere after our John LANE. (b. ca. 1780) > > Do you know anything I could try to prove anything connecting John LANE to > LEHN? > > Thank you, > > Judy

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>You should not judge history by modern standards. True to a point. Often, when one looks more closely, one finds that people at the time were making criticisms that "modern historians" are also making today. We could say, for instance, that it's wrong to judge George Washington's slaveholding by today's standards. But Washington and John Woolman were contemporaries, and Woolman was very critical of slaveholding. So, who was right on the issue? Washington or Woolman? Mark

In message <BE69E78E.AA43%quillcottage@earthlink.net>, Gregory McReynolds <quillcottage@earthlink.net> writes > >In recent research, however, I was unsettled to find that what the >Quakers did is being sharply criticized by modern historians: In their >opinion, these programs forced Native Americans to adopt the ways of the >white man and destroyed their traditional way of life. That is more a problem of the modern historians than the Quakers themselves. You should not judge history by modern standards. John -- John Rouse -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.3 - Release Date: 25/03/05

In a message dated 3/26/2005 7:55:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, CageyCat@aol.com writes: John LANE is involved with the Brethren -- he is a founding member of Ten Mile "Society of Christian Brethren" or "German Baptist Brethren" which later is renamed to Ten Mile Church of the Brethren. --- Judy- What makes you think your John LANE was Scotch-Irish? And I'm assuming the only reason you suspect a Quaker connection is because of the anti-slavery stance? The German Baptist Brethren were also anti-slavery and I have a German Johannes LEHN (often Americanized to LANE) of York County, PA in my family tree. If I were you I'd take a look at John LEHN/LANE as being your ancestor. Johannes LEHN left a will in York County where he is listed as Jonathan LEHN. He wrote the will 15 April 1775 and it was probated 26 May 1783. The Executor of the will was my ancestor Samuel ARNOLD who was married to Johannes LEHN's daughter Elizabeth. Named in the will are wife: Margaret and children: Peter, John, Catharine, Elizabeth, Hannah, and Mary. Your John LANE of Frederick County, MD could very well be the above-named son of Johannes and Margaret LEHN of York County, PA. As a side note, the German Baptist ARNOLD family was originally from Frederick County, MD--so there are ties to Frederick County for the LEHNs in addition to the close proximity of York County, PA to Frederick County, MD. Johannes LEHN, age 40, was on the passenger list of the Ship Loyal Judith which qualified in Philadelphia 3 Sept. 1742. He signed his own name to the required oaths. Joan

I wondered if someone could help me with look-ups in any records you think appropriate to my need -- I honestly don't know what source(s) to ask about in Quaker research. John LANE (supposedly Scots-Irish, but was always with German families or German-speaking families) was born ca. 1780 in an unknown location. One Bio History on a grandson says John LANE left his parents because they owned slaves. (I understand some Quakers "bought" indentures for servants and other Quakers owned slaves? and these "purchases" are in Quaker Meeting records?) We have NO idea of his parents names (of John Lane' children, we do not have a Daniel, so maybe there is a Daniel ancestor? In grandchildren, we have Henry - so maybe there is a Henry ancestor?) First appears in 1794 Frederick Co MD "with no parents in this State" (which seems to mean they were not dead) -- John Lane is becoming apprenticed to Martin GARVER (GARBER) through the Orphan Court. Martin GARVER lived near Taneytown area of Frederick Co (now Carroll Co). GARVER's home was used as the meeting house for the German Baptists who became known as Church of the Brethren (by name change only in 1908). So we don't know John LANE's religion before 1794. We only know he was associated with the German Baptist Brethren (formed by Alexander Mack) and knew many of the Brethren leaders in Frederick Co MD like SAYLOR, LEATHERMAN, etc. Within 5 miles at Libertytown MD lived Joseph BAKER and wife Mary, with at least 2 children, Phillip and Catherine. Mary signed her name once as Meri BECKAR. Joseph BAKER had a Bible and a "lot of books" in Dutch. We've never determined the religion of the BAKERs, nor where they came from before MD. John Lane met Catherine BAKER and they married in Fred Co MD Jan. 23, 1805. Their first child was born 2 months before they married (John Jr, 1805.); Joseph born 1807; 2 other children born later which were Daniel in 1810, and Mary 1818-? About 1804 some Brethren moved from Fred Co MD to Washington Co PA, where other Brethren also lived. About Oct. 1809 Joseph Baker sold his Fred Co MD land and by the Census of 1810 is in Washington Co PA he/family, in Amwell Twp. By deduction, John Lane and his family are living in the in-law's house (Joseph Baker). John LANE is involved with the Brethren -- he is a founding member of Ten Mile "Society of Christian Brethren" or "German Baptist Brethren" which later is renamed to Ten Mile Church of the Brethren. They met in each other's homes from at least 1750s in the county, used Martin SPOHN's as a meetinghouse in the early 1800s, and by 1832 built the first church building. Nearby was Bethlehem Lutheran Church. Across the Ten Mile creek was a Cemetery said to be a Quaker burial ground, and said to be used in the late 1700s up to to late 1800s. BIGLERs attended the same church as LANE and BIGLERs are buried in this Quaker Cemetery (Franklin Cemetery). Many Brethren were buried there before the Ten Mile Church of the Brethren was built in 1832. Catherine BAKER LANE supposedly died in 1822 and we've never known where she was buried. It's possible she was buried in this Quaker Franklin Cemetery. John LANE lived until Dec. 1844. Assumption was he would be buried with Catherine. I am hopeful with this possible Quaker connection, albeit a slim chance of finding records. My only other clues are -- learning that many of my other families were possibly in New Jersey first (1700s) and by the early 1800s were in Washington Co PA -- Daniel was maybe born near Philadelpia ---*but* in an Ohio Bio/History on another Brethren, it is said that Brethren man was born near "old Philadelphia" in Washington County PA..... no one seems to know of an "old Philadelphia" place in Washington Co PA... We doubt that Catherine was in the real Philadelphia, PA in 1810 to have given birth to Daniel there. Can you suggest anything I could try? Places looked: Oath of Allegience - nothing so far, esp. not knowing a time period or location, or which generation he was... if Brethren in PA, this family might not have signed anyway Will, Probate/Account Deeds Court records Brethren -Church of the Brethren records Road Petition Tax and any of the other usual records.... Judy

Thanks Jerry. Phebe COFFIN is the sister of my GG-Grandnother, Priscilla COFFIN md. Himelius MENDENHALL,. g-grandson of John & Margaret E. (Hunt) Beals. Phebe and Priscilla are brothers of Barnabas Coffin, Jr., who we discussed on Q-R few months ago -- children of Barnabas Sr. & Phebe (Marshall) Coffin, Nantucket, MA>Guilford Co., NC. Per "The Coffin Family" edited by Louis Coffin, NHA, 1862, Stephen Coffin md. Rachel Hunt, d/o John, and Elizabeth Coffin md. Stephen Hunt, s/o John -- these Coffins are also children of Barnabas & Phebe (Marshall) Coffin, so therefore, more of descendents of William & Priscilla (Paddock) Coffin, who migrated into the Heartland! Another Coffin sister, Huldah md. Jesse Stanley and migrated to Indiana, I believe. Violet Moore Guy 03/25/2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Richmond" <jrichmon@sprynet.com> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [Q-R] Kindley surname > Joan & List - > >>From my Quaker Hunt database, I am enclosing Family Group Sheets > on Joel Kindley & Rachel Hunt and on Rachel's parents, Jonathan > Hunt & Phebe Coffin. > > ======================================================= > 25 Mar 2005 Family Group Sheet > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Husband: Joel Kindley #1763 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Born: 16 Jan 1811 in: Warren co, OH > Died: in: > Father: John Kindley #1764 > Mother: Elizabeth Wilson #1765 > -Genealogical records from Milford MM,IN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Wife: Rachel Hunt #707 > Married: 8 Mar 1832 in: Milford MM, IN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Born: 7 Aug 1813 in: Clinton co, OH > Died: in: > Father: Jonathan Hunt #277 > Mother: Phebe Coffin #694 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > M Child 1 Charles Kindley #1766 > Born: 25 Aug 1833 in: Wayne co, IN > Died: in: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > F Child 2 Margaret Kindley #1767 > Born: 2 Mar 1835 in: Wayne co, IN > Died: in: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > F Child 3 Lydia H Kindley #1768 > Born: 31 Oct 1836 in: Wayne co, IN > Died: in: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > M Child 4 Joseph J Kindley #1769 > Born: 13 May 1839 in: Wayne co, IN > Died: in: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > F Child 5 Rebecca Kindley #1770 > Born: 28 Feb 1842 in: Wayne co, IN > Died: in: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ======================================================= > 25 Mar 2005 Family Group Sheet > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Husband: Jonathan Hunt #277 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Born: 8 Apr 1781 in: Guilford co, NC > Died: 10 Mar 1846 in: Wayne co, IN > Father: John Hunt #30 > Mother: Rachel Haworth #175 > -Genealogical records from Deep River MM,NC; also from Milford MM,IN > -Alternate DOB 17 Mar 1780 from gene.recs. at Milford MM,IN > -Marriage Bond dated 25 Jan 1798, Guilford co,NC, between Jonathan Hunt > [son of John Hunt & Rachel Haworth] & Phebe Coffin [dau of Barnabas Coffin > & Phoebe Marshall]; bondsman William Hunt, witness John Hamilton, County > Clerk > -Deep River MM, Guilford co,NC on 4 Mar 1799 Jonathan condemns his > marr.out > -Deep River MM on 2 Sep 1805 Jonathan & family granted certificate to > Miamma MM,OH > -Miami MM, Warren co,OH on 14 Jan 1808 Jonothan & hw Phebe & 3 children > received on certificate from Deep River MM,NC dated 2 Sep 1805 [endorsed > to Fairfield MM,OH] > -Fairfield MM, Highland co,OH on 26 Mar 1808 Jonathan & sons Barnabas & > John received on certificate from Deep River MM,NC dated 2 Sep 1805 > [endorsed by Miami MM,OH] > -Clear Creek MM re-established from Fairfield MM,OH in ca.1814 > -Clear Creek MM, Clinton co,OH on 12 Sep 1818 Jonathan & hw Phebe & 9 > children granted certificate to New Garden MM,IN > -New Garden MM, Wayne co,IN on 24 Oct 1818 Jonathan & sons John & Jesse > received on certificate from Clear Creek MM,OH > -New Garden MM on 15 Nov 1823 Jonathan & family granted certificate to > Milford MM > -Milford MM, Wayne co,IN on 18 Mar 1824 Jonathan & hw Phebe & 9 children > received on certificate from New Garden MM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Wife: Phebe Coffin #694 > Married: 25 Jan 1798 in: Guilford co, NC > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Born: 11 Mar 1783 in: Guilford co, NC > Died: 29 Nov 1860 in: Wayne co, IN > Father: Barnabas Coffin #1743 > Mother: Phebe Marshall #1744 > -Census of 1850, Washington twp, Wayne co,IN; #384 (KH,67) > -Deep River MM, Guilford co,NC on 4 Mar 1799 Phebe Hunt condemns her > misconduct [of marr.out] > -Deep River MM on 2 Sep 1805 Phebe & 2 dau [sic, SB 1] granted certificate > to Wainsvil MM,OH > -Fairfield MM, Highland co,OH on 26 Mar 1808 Phebe & dau Margaret received > on certificate from Deep River MM,NC dated 2 Sep 1805 [endorsed by > Miami MM,OH] > -New Garden MM, Wayne co,IN on 24 Oct 1818 Phebe & 7 daus received on > certificate from Clear Creek MM,OH > -Milford MM, Wayne co,IN on 28 Feb 1829 Phebe appointed an Elder > -Milford MM on 22 Aug 1846 Phebe & son Jonathan granted certificate to > Springfield MM [NC] (he returned before certificate was sent) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > M Child 1 Barnabas Hunt #695 > Born: 21 Dec 1799 in: Guilford co, NC > Died: 15 Mar 1874 in: Randolph co, IN > Buried: in: Cedar cem > Spouse: Hannah Lewis #710 b. 4 Feb 1801 d. 21 Dec 1883 > Married: 3 Dec 1818 in: Clear Creek MM, OH > -Genealogical records from New Garden MM,IN; also from Poplar Run MM,IN > -Alternate DOB 22 Dec 1798 per gene.recs. at New Garden MM,IN & > Poplar Run MM,IN > -Census of 1850, Stony Creek twp, Randolph co,IN; #112 (Farmer,51) > residing with wife in household of Pleasant Hunt, his son > -Fairfield MM, Highland co,OH on 26 Mar 1808 Barnabas mentioned as > received > on his father's certificate from Deep River MM,NC > -Clear Creek MM, Clinton co,OH on 8 May 1819 Barnabas & hw Hanah granted > certificate to New Garden MM,IN > -New Garden MM, Wayne co,IN on 19 Jun 1819 Barnabas & Hannah received on > certificate from Clear Creek MM,OH > -Newport MM (Anti-Slavery), Wayne co,IN on 18 Feb 1843 Barnabas appointed > to committee to have care of Education & School > -New Garden MM on 16 Sep 1843 Barnabas disowned for setting up meetings > contrary to discipline [Anti-Slavery Separation] > -Newport MM (AS) on 19 Feb 1848 Barnabas granted certificate to > Cabin Creek MM > -Cabin Creek MM (AS), Randolph co,IN on 1 Mar 1851 Barnabas appointed on > committee > -New Garden MM on 18 Jul 1857 noted that Poplar Run MM was given > permission > to receive Barnabas in membership > -Poplar Run MM, Randolph co,IN on 13 Aug 1857 Barnabas received in > membership with consent of New Garden MM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > F Child 2 Margaret Hunt #696 > Born: 19 Apr 1801 in: Guilford co, NC > Died: in: > Spouse: James Gray #2558 > Married: 12 Nov 1819 in: Wayne co, IN > -Marriage per ISL Marriage index > -Fairfield MM, Highland co,OH on 26 Mar 1808 Margaret mentioned as > received > on her mother's certificate from Deep River MM,NC > -New Garden MM, Wayne co,IN on 24 Oct 1818 Margaret mentioned as received > on > her mother's certificate from Clear Creek MM,OH > -New Garden MM on 18 Dec 1819 Margaret Grey (formerly Hunt) marr.out > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > M Child 3 John Hunt #697 > Born: 10 Oct 1803 in: Guilford co, NC > Died: in: > -Alternate DOB 16 Oct 1803 per parents' gene.recs. at Milford MM,IN > -Fairfield MM, Highland co,OH on 26 Mar 1808 John mentioned as received on > his father's certificate from Deep River MM,NC > -New Garden MM, Wayne co,IN on 24 Oct 1818 John mentioned as received on > his father's certificate from Clear Creek MM,OH > -New Garden MM on 16 Mar 1822 John reported for using plural language; on > 20 Dec 1823 John condemns his misconduct > -New Garden MM on 17 Sep 1825 John granted certificate to Milford MM [no > record of rocf at Milford MM] > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > F Child 4 Huldah Hunt #703 > Born: 17 Dec 1805 in: Clinton co, OH > Died: in: > Spouse: Henry Palin #1760 b. abt 1802 > Married: 26 Aug 1824 in: Wayne co, IN > -Marriage per IN IGI > -Census of 1850, Dudley twp, Henry co,IN; #24 (KH,44) > -Milford MM, Wayne co,IN on 18 Mar 1824 Huldah Hunt mentioned as received > on her parents' certificate from New Garden MM > -Milford MM on 23 Oct 1824 Huldah Palin (formerly Hunt) reported for civil > marr.(mcd); condemns her misconduct > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > M Child 5 Jesse Hunt #704 > Born: 16 Jan 1808 in: Clinton co, OH > Died: in: > Spouse: Joanna Meridith #3826 b. abt 1817 > Married: 18 May 1836 in: Wayne co, IN > -Marriage per ISL Marriage index; individual partially speculative > -Census of 1850, Greensboro twp, Henry co,IN; #662 (Carder,33) > -New Garden MM, Wayne co,IN on 24 Oct 1818 Jesse mentioned as received on > his father's certificate from Clear Creek MM,OH > -Milford MM, Wayne co,IN on 18 Mar 1824 Jesse mentioned as received on his > parents' certificate from New Garden MM > -Milford MM on 22 Sep 1827 Jesse reported for deviation from plainness; > disowned > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > F Child 6 Phebe Hunt #705 > Born: 20 Oct 1809 in: Clinton co, OH > Died: in: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > F Child 7 Elizabeth Hunt #706 > Born: 10 Sep 1811 in: Highland co, OH > Died: in: > Spouse: John Budd #1771 b. 14 Jun 1812 > Married: 9 Mar 1836 in: Wayne co, IN > -Marriage per ISL Marriage index > -Milford MM, Wayne co,IN on 26 Mar 1836 Elizabeth Budd (formerly Hunt) > reported for civil marr.(mcd); disowned > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > F Child 8 Rachel Hunt #707 > Born: 7 Aug 1813 in: Clinton co, OH > Died: in: > Spouse: Joel Kindley #1763 b. 16 Jan 1811 > Married: 8 Mar 1832 in: Milford MM, IN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > F Child 9 Mary Hunt #708 > Born: 2 May 1815 in: Clinton co, OH > Died: 4 Jun 1842 in: Hamilton co, IN > Buried: in: Westfield cem > Spouse: Solomon Stanbrough #1772 b. 15 Jun 1815 d. 13 Jul 1842 > Married: 30 Nov 1837 in: Milford MM, IN > -Death recorded at Westfield MM,IN; aet 27y,2m [sic] > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > F Child 10 Beulah Hunt #709 > Born: 28 Nov 1816 in: Clinton co, OH > Died: in: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > F Child 11 Celia Hunt #1754 > Born: 29 Nov 1818 in: Wayne co, IN > Died: 19 Apr 1875 in: Wayne co, IN > Buried: in: West River cem > Spouse: Thomas Elwood Beeson #1774 b. 22 Jan 1807 d. 1 Mar 1874 > Married: 2 Oct 1856 in: Milford MM, IN > AKA Hunt,Selah > -Census of 1850, Washington twp, Wayne co,IN; #384 (AH,30) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > F Child 12 Lydia Hunt #1755 > Born: 1 Jan 1821 in: Wayne co, IN > Died: 5 Apr 1842 in: Hamilton co, IN > Buried: in: Westfield cem > Spouse: John Stanbrough #1773 b. 18 Nov 1820 > Married: 1 Feb 1838 in: Milford MM, IN > -Death recorded at Westfield MM,IN; aet 21y,3m > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > M Child 13 Joseph Hunt #1756 > Born: 23 Jan 1823 in: Wayne co, IN > Died: in: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > M Child 14 Abijah Hunt #1757 > Born: 29 Aug 1824 in: Wayne co, IN > Died: 5 Dec 1839 in: Wayne co, IN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > F Child 15 Hannah Hunt #1758 > Born: 2 Mar 1826 in: Wayne co, IN > Died: in: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > M Child 16 Jonathan Hunt #1759 > Born: 11 Feb 1831 in: Wayne co, IN > Died: in: > -Census of 1850, Washington twp, Wayne co,IN; #384 (AH;Carder,19) > -Milford MM, Wayne co,IN on 22 Aug 1846 Phebe & son Jonathan granted > certificate to Springfield (he returned before cert was sent) > -Milford MM on 29 May 1853 Jonathan reported for neglecting attendance, > deviation from plainness, & participating in dances; condemns his > misconduct > -Milford MM on 25 Nov 1854 Jonathan reported for neglecting attendance; > disowned > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ======================================================= > > Regards, Jerry Richmond > You are cordially invited to visit "The Quaker Collection" > http://home.sprynet.com/~jrichmon/qkrcoll.htm > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MattyBFam@aol.com> > To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:40 PM > Subject: [Q-R] Kindley surname > > >> Is anyone researching the Kindley surname? I just learned that my >> daughter-in-law descends from Rebecca E. Kindley, b. 28 Feb 1842 in Wayne > Co., IN. >> Her father was Joel Kindley, b. ~1811 in OH. Her mother was Rachael > Elizabeth >> Hunt, b. ~1813. >> >> I would love to have info on this line. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Joan Benton >> >> >> ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >> HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: >> QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com >> The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE. >> > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Visit The Quaker Corner - http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers > >

Judy: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/4038/ Welcome to our Woodward Genealogy Home Page Heald --Martha Heald Woodward (If you go in through the above URL , then Martha Heald Woodward is a LINK! (It was hard to get everything in Plain Text to post to Q-R). http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/4038/Richardjr.html Richard Woodward, Jr Page Richard Woodward, Jr., was the oldest son of Richard and Jane Woodward probably of Cheshire, England, and of Chester County, Pennsylvania. Richard Woodward, Jr. married four times: (1) Esther Davis; (2) Deborah Stanfield; (3) widow Susanna Cureton; and (4) widow Mary Heald. All were proper Quaker marriages documented in Chester County Quaker meeting records. Richard Woodard, Jr. born About 1673 in England died bet 11/7 & 11/17/1752 Chester Co, Pa Esther Davis born unknown died bef 1701 Chester Co, Pa Married: After 3-13-1695 at Concord Monthly Meeting, Chester County, Pa. Their first intention of marriage was proposed at Concord Meeting on the 11th day of 1st month 1695. Their second notice of intent was at Concord on the 13th day of the 3rd month 1695 and "nothing found to obstruct with admonition this meeting left them to proceed in good order of truth." They were probably married shortly thereafter. Children: Esther Woodward born about 1696 Chester County, Pa; married (1)Christopher Wilson, (2)Thomas Wilson Sarah Woodward born about 1698 Chester County, Pa; married Evan Jones Jane Woodward born about 1700 Chester County, Pa; married (1)Joseph Hayes (2)William Wickersham We do not know for sure when Esther Davis Woodward died but Richard would have been expected to wait at least a year before marrying again, so she probably died sometime in 1700, perhaps even as a result of childbirth. The family of Richard Woodward's second wife Deborah Stanfield is documented in Chester County land records in a deed dated 22 June 1713 to Robert Pierson. The land is mentioned as sold "4 February 1703 by Francis Chads & Grace his wife, William Huntley & Mary his wife, Edward Bennett & Sarah his wife, Thomas Hope & Eliza his wife, Isaac Few & Hannah his wife & Richard Woodworth & Deborah his wife to one Thomas Pierson. The land was formerly in the tenure of Francis Stanfield. Grace, Mary, Sarah, Eliza, Hannah & Deborah were sisters & heirs of James Stanfield, dec., who was son & heir of Francis Stanfield, dec." (See Chester 1683 Survey for location of land on Crum Creek.) The ship Endeavor of London, master George Thorpe, arrived 7th month, 29th day, 1683, at Pennsylvania. Among passengers listed were Fran Stanfield and Graas his wife, late of Garton in Cheshire, husbandman, and children, Jam, Mary, Sarah, Eliz, Gras and Hannah (which tells us Deborah was born in Pennsylvania). They also had servants Dan Browne, Thos Marsey, Isa Brookersby, Rob & Thos SidBotham, John Smith, Robt Bryan, and William Redway. (Families who Arrived at Philadelphia, 1682-1687, Penns. Mag., V. 8) The servants listed might be indentured people whose passage was guaranteed by Stansfield, but it indicated the family had money. Some of the Pierson family came on the same vessel. Married: The actual marriage record of Richard & Deborah Stanfield Woodward is missing but at a monthly meeting at the home of Nathanial Parks (Concord meeting) on the 13th day of ye 11th month 1701 "Richard Woodward and Deborah Stanfield appeared at this meeting it being ye second time; and nothing appearing that might obstruct their aforementioned intention - Therefore this meeting have gave them their allowance to proceed according to the good order of truth - This meeting order George Pearce to attend the marriage to see if it be accomplished seemly according to truth and make return thereof to ye next monthly meeting." We can assume then that Richard and Deborah were married sometime between 13 day 11th month 1701 and the 12th month meeting date. Children: William Woodwardborn Chester County, Pa; married Eliza Marshall Elizabeth Woodward born Chester County, Pa; married (1)Thomas Thornbrough (2)Joseph Young Hannah Woodward born Chester County, Pa; married (1)James Shortledge (2)Joseph Underwood Mary Woodward born Chester County, Pa; married George Entriken James Woodward born Chester County, Pa; married Ann Pyle Grace Woodward born Chester County, Pa; married James Millison John Woodward born Chester County, Pa; married Sarah Barnard Richard Woodward III born Chester County, Pa; married Abigail Hayes Deborah Woodward born Chester County, Pa; married (1)William Strode (2)Stephen Harlan When Richard's father died in 1706 he did not leave his land to his eldest son as was the custom, instead leaving it jointly to his wife and his youngest son, probably so that his wife would be cared for. Richard Woodward acquired his own land, a tract of 1000 acres in 1724. He may have owned land before that as he is assessed in 1715 in Bradford Township. There were two Richard Woodward's, cousins, of about the same age so it is difficult to sort out the land.(See the "other" Richard's page.) By the 1753 taxable list one is taxed in East Bradford and one in West Bradford. Our Richard on this page was of Thornbury which was in West Bradford, and he is referred to that way in most records. (Chester County Map) When Bradford Monthly Meeting was set off from Concord Monthly Meeting in 1737, Richard Woodward was designated Elder of the Meeting. Quakers had no paid clergy for their meetings. Their "ministers" or "preachers" were called by God to testify about their faith and often traveled to far places to carry the word. The Elders were in charge of the meetings for worship and watched over the ministers that they did not abuse their calling. The Elders also represented their meeting at Quarterly and Yearly Meetings. Deborah Stanfield Woodward died sometime before 1739. On the 6th day 8th month 1739 Richard Woodward & Susanna Cureton appeared for the first time to request permission to marry before Newark Monthly Meeting. Richard was directed to bring a certificate from Bradford that he was clear to marry, and Jacob Chandler and Samuel Grave were appointed to "inspect the widow's affairs as regards her husband's will." On the 3rd day 9th month they appeared before the meeting again. They were married on the 29th day of 9th month 1739 and it was reported as orderly to Newark Monthly Meeting. Susanna then received a certificate to Bradford Monthly Meeting. The wedding took place at Bradford Monthly Meeting. Family signing the certificate included Thomas & Rachel Martin Woodward, brother and sister-in-law; John Newlin, husband of sister Mary Woodward; Evan & Sarah Woodward Jones, daughter and son-in-law; daughter Elizabeth Woodward Thornbury, Joseph Underwood, husband of daughter Hannah, George Entrikin, husband of daughter Mary, and Thomas Cureton, possibly son of Susanna. Abraham & Mary Marshall, parents of daughter-in-law Eliza Marshall Woodward were among the guests. Daughter and son-in-law Esther & Christopher Wilson were among the guests but did not sign as family. Susanna Cureton Woodward died before 1743 and on the 30th day 7th month 1743 Richard Woodward & Martha Heald appeared before Newark Monthly Meeting. Richard was directed to bring a certificate from Bradford and Thomas & Jacob Chandler were appointed to see "that the will of her former husband be complyed with." This was not a problem as the will of John Heald had been probated on 11/13/1740, enough time passing that its provisions had no doubt been carried out. On the 5th day 9th month Richard & Martha appeared for the second time and were given permission to marry. They were married on the 30th day 9th month 1743 and it was reported orderly to Newark. Martha received a certificate to Bradford Meeting. Martha is named as wife in Richard's will. As was customary he made detailed provisions for his "now" wife. This was usually necessary, since step-children could not be counted on to take care of a stepmother unless so directed in a will and watched over by the courts. This kind of provision made sure that no one wound up indigent and a ward of the court. Richard had evidently prospered as, in his will, his house is called a "mansion" and his acreage a "plantation." There are again some curious things about his bequests. Oldest son William is left only five shillings and no land. Sons John & Richard are left land. Richard had conveyed 253 acres of the southeast corner of his original one thousand acres to William on 6/16/1734, shortly after William married, so this is probably the reason none is left in the will. Son James had died 5th month 1748 so is not mentioned. It may have been James's death that made him aware of his own mortality so he started writing his will in 1748 though he did not sign it until 1752. *Updates 6/22/2001 Added daughter Jane Woodward's second marriage to Wm. Wickersham **************************************************************** Judy: This is one my Mendenhall & Allied Family Webpages.: James Mendenhall was son of Aaron & Rose Pierson Mendenhall. His brother Aaron Mendenhall, Jr. was brother-in-law of Abraham Woodward . James Mendenhall md 2ndly, Hannah Thomas -- my 5G-Grandparents! Violet Moore Guy vmguy@gmpexpress.net 03/25/2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: "jheald" <jheald@pennswoods.net> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 6:33 PM Subject: [Q-R] Martha Foden Heald Woodward > Saw this comment: "WOODWARD, Richard 1743.7.30 requested permission to > marry Martha Heald, widow" > > Martha Foden (b. abt 1684 Morley, Cheshire, England, d. May 1755 in > Bradford > Twp, Chester Co, PA. ) married first 5 Nov 170,1in Cheshire England, to > John > Heald, son of William and Jane Dunbabin Heald. I have in my notes that > she > did marry Richard Woodward (John Heald died 1740). WHICH Richard > Woodward!!!! > > Judy > > > > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: > QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com > The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE. > >

Joan & List - From my Quaker Hunt database, I am enclosing Family Group Sheets on Joel Kindley & Rachel Hunt and on Rachel's parents, Jonathan Hunt & Phebe Coffin. ======================================================= 25 Mar 2005 Family Group Sheet ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Husband: Joel Kindley #1763 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Born: 16 Jan 1811 in: Warren co, OH Died: in: Father: John Kindley #1764 Mother: Elizabeth Wilson #1765 -Genealogical records from Milford MM,IN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Wife: Rachel Hunt #707 Married: 8 Mar 1832 in: Milford MM, IN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Born: 7 Aug 1813 in: Clinton co, OH Died: in: Father: Jonathan Hunt #277 Mother: Phebe Coffin #694 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- M Child 1 Charles Kindley #1766 Born: 25 Aug 1833 in: Wayne co, IN Died: in: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- F Child 2 Margaret Kindley #1767 Born: 2 Mar 1835 in: Wayne co, IN Died: in: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- F Child 3 Lydia H Kindley #1768 Born: 31 Oct 1836 in: Wayne co, IN Died: in: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- M Child 4 Joseph J Kindley #1769 Born: 13 May 1839 in: Wayne co, IN Died: in: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- F Child 5 Rebecca Kindley #1770 Born: 28 Feb 1842 in: Wayne co, IN Died: in: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ======================================================= 25 Mar 2005 Family Group Sheet ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Husband: Jonathan Hunt #277 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Born: 8 Apr 1781 in: Guilford co, NC Died: 10 Mar 1846 in: Wayne co, IN Father: John Hunt #30 Mother: Rachel Haworth #175 -Genealogical records from Deep River MM,NC; also from Milford MM,IN -Alternate DOB 17 Mar 1780 from gene.recs. at Milford MM,IN -Marriage Bond dated 25 Jan 1798, Guilford co,NC, between Jonathan Hunt [son of John Hunt & Rachel Haworth] & Phebe Coffin [dau of Barnabas Coffin & Phoebe Marshall]; bondsman William Hunt, witness John Hamilton, County Clerk -Deep River MM, Guilford co,NC on 4 Mar 1799 Jonathan condemns his marr.out -Deep River MM on 2 Sep 1805 Jonathan & family granted certificate to Miamma MM,OH -Miami MM, Warren co,OH on 14 Jan 1808 Jonothan & hw Phebe & 3 children received on certificate from Deep River MM,NC dated 2 Sep 1805 [endorsed to Fairfield MM,OH] -Fairfield MM, Highland co,OH on 26 Mar 1808 Jonathan & sons Barnabas & John received on certificate from Deep River MM,NC dated 2 Sep 1805 [endorsed by Miami MM,OH] -Clear Creek MM re-established from Fairfield MM,OH in ca.1814 -Clear Creek MM, Clinton co,OH on 12 Sep 1818 Jonathan & hw Phebe & 9 children granted certificate to New Garden MM,IN -New Garden MM, Wayne co,IN on 24 Oct 1818 Jonathan & sons John & Jesse received on certificate from Clear Creek MM,OH -New Garden MM on 15 Nov 1823 Jonathan & family granted certificate to Milford MM -Milford MM, Wayne co,IN on 18 Mar 1824 Jonathan & hw Phebe & 9 children received on certificate from New Garden MM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Wife: Phebe Coffin #694 Married: 25 Jan 1798 in: Guilford co, NC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Born: 11 Mar 1783 in: Guilford co, NC Died: 29 Nov 1860 in: Wayne co, IN Father: Barnabas Coffin #1743 Mother: Phebe Marshall #1744 -Census of 1850, Washington twp, Wayne co,IN; #384 (KH,67) -Deep River MM, Guilford co,NC on 4 Mar 1799 Phebe Hunt condemns her misconduct [of marr.out] -Deep River MM on 2 Sep 1805 Phebe & 2 dau [sic, SB 1] granted certificate to Wainsvil MM,OH -Fairfield MM, Highland co,OH on 26 Mar 1808 Phebe & dau Margaret received on certificate from Deep River MM,NC dated 2 Sep 1805 [endorsed by Miami MM,OH] -New Garden MM, Wayne co,IN on 24 Oct 1818 Phebe & 7 daus received on certificate from Clear Creek MM,OH -Milford MM, Wayne co,IN on 28 Feb 1829 Phebe appointed an Elder -Milford MM on 22 Aug 1846 Phebe & son Jonathan granted certificate to Springfield MM [NC] (he returned before certificate was sent) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- M Child 1 Barnabas Hunt #695 Born: 21 Dec 1799 in: Guilford co, NC Died: 15 Mar 1874 in: Randolph co, IN Buried: in: Cedar cem Spouse: Hannah Lewis #710 b. 4 Feb 1801 d. 21 Dec 1883 Married: 3 Dec 1818 in: Clear Creek MM, OH -Genealogical records from New Garden MM,IN; also from Poplar Run MM,IN -Alternate DOB 22 Dec 1798 per gene.recs. at New Garden MM,IN & Poplar Run MM,IN -Census of 1850, Stony Creek twp, Randolph co,IN; #112 (Farmer,51) residing with wife in household of Pleasant Hunt, his son -Fairfield MM, Highland co,OH on 26 Mar 1808 Barnabas mentioned as received on his father's certificate from Deep River MM,NC -Clear Creek MM, Clinton co,OH on 8 May 1819 Barnabas & hw Hanah granted certificate to New Garden MM,IN -New Garden MM, Wayne co,IN on 19 Jun 1819 Barnabas & Hannah received on certificate from Clear Creek MM,OH -Newport MM (Anti-Slavery), Wayne co,IN on 18 Feb 1843 Barnabas appointed to committee to have care of Education & School -New Garden MM on 16 Sep 1843 Barnabas disowned for setting up meetings contrary to discipline [Anti-Slavery Separation] -Newport MM (AS) on 19 Feb 1848 Barnabas granted certificate to Cabin Creek MM -Cabin Creek MM (AS), Randolph co,IN on 1 Mar 1851 Barnabas appointed on committee -New Garden MM on 18 Jul 1857 noted that Poplar Run MM was given permission to receive Barnabas in membership -Poplar Run MM, Randolph co,IN on 13 Aug 1857 Barnabas received in membership with consent of New Garden MM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- F Child 2 Margaret Hunt #696 Born: 19 Apr 1801 in: Guilford co, NC Died: in: Spouse: James Gray #2558 Married: 12 Nov 1819 in: Wayne co, IN -Marriage per ISL Marriage index -Fairfield MM, Highland co,OH on 26 Mar 1808 Margaret mentioned as received on her mother's certificate from Deep River MM,NC -New Garden MM, Wayne co,IN on 24 Oct 1818 Margaret mentioned as received on her mother's certificate from Clear Creek MM,OH -New Garden MM on 18 Dec 1819 Margaret Grey (formerly Hunt) marr.out ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- M Child 3 John Hunt #697 Born: 10 Oct 1803 in: Guilford co, NC Died: in: -Alternate DOB 16 Oct 1803 per parents' gene.recs. at Milford MM,IN -Fairfield MM, Highland co,OH on 26 Mar 1808 John mentioned as received on his father's certificate from Deep River MM,NC -New Garden MM, Wayne co,IN on 24 Oct 1818 John mentioned as received on his father's certificate from Clear Creek MM,OH -New Garden MM on 16 Mar 1822 John reported for using plural language; on 20 Dec 1823 John condemns his misconduct -New Garden MM on 17 Sep 1825 John granted certificate to Milford MM [no record of rocf at Milford MM] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- F Child 4 Huldah Hunt #703 Born: 17 Dec 1805 in: Clinton co, OH Died: in: Spouse: Henry Palin #1760 b. abt 1802 Married: 26 Aug 1824 in: Wayne co, IN -Marriage per IN IGI -Census of 1850, Dudley twp, Henry co,IN; #24 (KH,44) -Milford MM, Wayne co,IN on 18 Mar 1824 Huldah Hunt mentioned as received on her parents' certificate from New Garden MM -Milford MM on 23 Oct 1824 Huldah Palin (formerly Hunt) reported for civil marr.(mcd); condemns her misconduct ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- M Child 5 Jesse Hunt #704 Born: 16 Jan 1808 in: Clinton co, OH Died: in: Spouse: Joanna Meridith #3826 b. abt 1817 Married: 18 May 1836 in: Wayne co, IN -Marriage per ISL Marriage index; individual partially speculative -Census of 1850, Greensboro twp, Henry co,IN; #662 (Carder,33) -New Garden MM, Wayne co,IN on 24 Oct 1818 Jesse mentioned as received on his father's certificate from Clear Creek MM,OH -Milford MM, Wayne co,IN on 18 Mar 1824 Jesse mentioned as received on his parents' certificate from New Garden MM -Milford MM on 22 Sep 1827 Jesse reported for deviation from plainness; disowned ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- F Child 6 Phebe Hunt #705 Born: 20 Oct 1809 in: Clinton co, OH Died: in: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- F Child 7 Elizabeth Hunt #706 Born: 10 Sep 1811 in: Highland co, OH Died: in: Spouse: John Budd #1771 b. 14 Jun 1812 Married: 9 Mar 1836 in: Wayne co, IN -Marriage per ISL Marriage index -Milford MM, Wayne co,IN on 26 Mar 1836 Elizabeth Budd (formerly Hunt) reported for civil marr.(mcd); disowned ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- F Child 8 Rachel Hunt #707 Born: 7 Aug 1813 in: Clinton co, OH Died: in: Spouse: Joel Kindley #1763 b. 16 Jan 1811 Married: 8 Mar 1832 in: Milford MM, IN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- F Child 9 Mary Hunt #708 Born: 2 May 1815 in: Clinton co, OH Died: 4 Jun 1842 in: Hamilton co, IN Buried: in: Westfield cem Spouse: Solomon Stanbrough #1772 b. 15 Jun 1815 d. 13 Jul 1842 Married: 30 Nov 1837 in: Milford MM, IN -Death recorded at Westfield MM,IN; aet 27y,2m [sic] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- F Child 10 Beulah Hunt #709 Born: 28 Nov 1816 in: Clinton co, OH Died: in: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- F Child 11 Celia Hunt #1754 Born: 29 Nov 1818 in: Wayne co, IN Died: 19 Apr 1875 in: Wayne co, IN Buried: in: West River cem Spouse: Thomas Elwood Beeson #1774 b. 22 Jan 1807 d. 1 Mar 1874 Married: 2 Oct 1856 in: Milford MM, IN AKA Hunt,Selah -Census of 1850, Washington twp, Wayne co,IN; #384 (AH,30) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- F Child 12 Lydia Hunt #1755 Born: 1 Jan 1821 in: Wayne co, IN Died: 5 Apr 1842 in: Hamilton co, IN Buried: in: Westfield cem Spouse: John Stanbrough #1773 b. 18 Nov 1820 Married: 1 Feb 1838 in: Milford MM, IN -Death recorded at Westfield MM,IN; aet 21y,3m ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- M Child 13 Joseph Hunt #1756 Born: 23 Jan 1823 in: Wayne co, IN Died: in: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- M Child 14 Abijah Hunt #1757 Born: 29 Aug 1824 in: Wayne co, IN Died: 5 Dec 1839 in: Wayne co, IN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- F Child 15 Hannah Hunt #1758 Born: 2 Mar 1826 in: Wayne co, IN Died: in: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- M Child 16 Jonathan Hunt #1759 Born: 11 Feb 1831 in: Wayne co, IN Died: in: -Census of 1850, Washington twp, Wayne co,IN; #384 (AH;Carder,19) -Milford MM, Wayne co,IN on 22 Aug 1846 Phebe & son Jonathan granted certificate to Springfield (he returned before cert was sent) -Milford MM on 29 May 1853 Jonathan reported for neglecting attendance, deviation from plainness, & participating in dances; condemns his misconduct -Milford MM on 25 Nov 1854 Jonathan reported for neglecting attendance; disowned ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ======================================================= Regards, Jerry Richmond You are cordially invited to visit "The Quaker Collection" http://home.sprynet.com/~jrichmon/qkrcoll.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <MattyBFam@aol.com> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:40 PM Subject: [Q-R] Kindley surname > Is anyone researching the Kindley surname? I just learned that my > daughter-in-law descends from Rebecca E. Kindley, b. 28 Feb 1842 in Wayne Co., IN. > Her father was Joel Kindley, b. ~1811 in OH. Her mother was Rachael Elizabeth > Hunt, b. ~1813. > > I would love to have info on this line. > > Thanks. > > Joan Benton > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: > QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com > The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE. >

From Genealogy of the Smedley Family - 1682-1901, Gilbert Cope, 1901, page 172 Thomas Garrett (26 Oct 1717 - 16 Jan 1747/48) married Rebecca Sykes. No further information on Rebecca or any data on children. As her daughter was names Sykes, this is clearly from her first marriage, so maiden name not yet known. Judy

Saw this comment: "WOODWARD, Richard 1743.7.30 requested permission to marry Martha Heald, widow" Martha Foden (b. abt 1684 Morley, Cheshire, England, d. May 1755 in Bradford Twp, Chester Co, PA. ) married first 5 Nov 170,1in Cheshire England, to John Heald, son of William and Jane Dunbabin Heald. I have in my notes that she did marry Richard Woodward (John Heald died 1740). WHICH Richard Woodward!!!! Judy

I have noticed that many Quakers were involved with work among the western Indian tribes in the 1870s through 1890s. They included, in Iowa, members of the Beede and Hoag families, also Lawrie Tatum and Brinton Darlington; in Kansas, William Hiatt Coffin, in Nebraska, William P. Burgess and George F. Howell. Plus many others. I have always thought their efforts were benign, befitting their own character and principles. The Quakers worked diligently to get the Government to rescind its policy of Indian extermination. They espoused a program of "assimilation not annihilation." They founded schools for Indian children and taught skills and trades to the adults. In recent research, however, I was unsettled to find that what the Quakers did is being sharply criticized by modern historians: In their opinion, these programs forced Native Americans to adopt the ways of the white man and destroyed their traditional way of life. It appears that in many dimensions this was the result, but I believe the Quakers would have been shocked to be charged with doing something wrong. I believe it was the consensus of the Quakers that this was the best course to save the Indians and it could only be done by eradicating their traditional lifestyle. I would appreciate comments on this subject from those who had Quaker ancestors involved in Indian work during this period, or have done research on this subject. Thanks in advance, Gregory McReynolds Pasadena, California

Thanks, Joyce. I will check into it. David --On Thursday, March 24, 2005 5:48 PM -0500 Jeobowman@cs.com wrote: > In a message dated 3/24/2005 5:08:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, > sale_ds@ACCESS-K12.org writes: > > Are there any videos available on the early history of Quakerism? We > would like to have a meeting with the Wilbur and Gurney branches on the > founding of the Society and early years. > > > There was a 27 min. video "Who Are Quakers" that was produced by Claire > Simon in 1991. I do not know if it is still available, or not--but you > might try the address that is on it, which is: Claire Simon > Quaker Video > P. O. Box 292 > Maplewood, NY 07040 > Think the cost of it was in the 20-25 dollar range. > > I have a copy (VHS) but have not watched it for a while. Not sure it > specifically addresses the Wilberites & Guerneyites--who they are and how > they came about, but it is a good introductory video. > > Joyce Bowman

Zelda Capehart: I was searching University of Virginia Library, for they are excellent resource for genealogy in Virginia; but you will have to search for what you want. At one time, I had a spcific URL that I used. You can also search the Virginia Archives for Vital Records (posted at end of this message).. ************* Berkley County, Virginia became a part of West Virginia, after the Revolutionary War. Here is a website that came up from today's SEARCH! Read the whole thing, as I may have discovered the Morgan family!.least, I found a Morgan connection. http://www.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/wv/berkeley.htm USGenWeb Archives : West Virginia County Index : Berkeley County Berkeley County WVGenWeb Archives Census Records 1810 Berkeley County, VA (now WV) Federal CensusRobert Rellihan 1850 Berkeley County, VA (now WV) Census Indexby S-K Publications 1880 1% Census Samplesubmitted by Al Zopp Family History/Letters ************* I browsed the USGenWeb Archives for Berkley Co., WVa and found a MORGAN -- lived in "valley of Virginia & Winchester " ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wv/berkeley/bios/morgan.txt (Read USGenWeb regulations on use of this website.) This bio, I must send to my cousin in Washington State, for this could be her LINE -- her parent's did the genealaogy charts that I have. Your post interested me as I am looking for parents & family of Sarah Morgan b. Monomgahlila Co., WVA & married Johnathan Butler, b. Shanandoah Co., VA. They were married in Morgantown, WVA. Sarah Morgan's parents were James Morgan (1755-1822), born Cheat River, WVA md. Hannah Cox , b. in England. Johnathan & Sarah (Morgan) migrated first to OH and then to IN; and in 1852 Sarah went with a son and a grandson West to the Oregon Country -- I do not believe that they were Quakers, but a grandson married my great-grandmother's niece -- so a Mendenhall/Coffin connection there for both the niece & my great Grandmother were Oregon Pioneers --- also, even my father, who was just an infant at time of their migration. The Butler/Morgan is a lateral connection for me. I am familiar with this part of Virginia, as we lived many years in Fairfax County, in Northern Virginia, and our son went to one of the well known Virginia colleges.. I am now living in Maryland, just 2-4 hrs away. We often stop in Orange, VA in our cross continental trips. http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?srch=105&FORM=AS5&q=Virginia+Vital+Records%2c+Archives Virginia Vital Records Archives. -- from a SEARCH http://vitalrecords.accessgenealogy.com/vavital.htm (I have used these.) I hope these will help in your research! Violet Moore Guy 03/25/2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zelda Capehart" <zcapehart@earthlink.net> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:33 AM Subject: [Q-R] Request > > Is there anyone who could do look ups for Morgan's in Fauquier, Orange and > Frederick Counties in Virginia? Thomas Morgan's. was probably born in > Wales in 1715 or PA. He died in Berkeley Co., VA before 1779. His wife > was > Johanna Jackson born about 1719 in Hampshire Co., VA. They had 4 sons -- > William Sr. born abt 1740 in Fauquier Co. or Orange Co., VA; Thomas born > abt > 1745, Jonathan born abt 1755 & John born 1748. The last 3 sons were born > in > Frederick Co., VA. Their son Thomas married Nancy (date not known) She > was > in born in 1749 in Frederick, VA. Their son, Thomas was born 1785 in VA > and > married Ann Ogan abt 1809 in Ohio. She was born abt 1790 in VA. > > Thank you > > Zelda > > > zcapehart@earthlink.net > > "Tough times never last, but tough people do!" -- Robert H. Schuller > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: > QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com > The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE. > >

In a message dated 3/24/2005 5:08:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, sale_ds@ACCESS-K12.org writes: > Are there any videos available on the early history of Quakerism? We would > > like to have a meeting with the Wilbur and Gurney branches on the founding > of the Society and early years. > There was a 27 min. video "Who Are Quakers" that was produced by Claire Simon in 1991. I do not know if it is still available, or not--but you might try the address that is on it, which is: Claire Simon Quaker Video P. O. Box 292 Maplewood, NY 07040 Think the cost of it was in the 20-25 dollar range. I have a copy (VHS) but have not watched it for a while. Not sure it specifically addresses the Wilberites & Guerneyites--who they are and how they came about, but it is a good introductory video. Joyce Bowman

Does anyone on the list have a copy of the book "Ancestors of Irene Jessop" by Cleaver. Apparently there are references to the Quaker Small family, I would very much like to have copies of. Jim Small

Title from the Family History Library (S.L.C.) catalog: Church records, 1717-1943 Authors Society of Friends. Upper Springfield Monthly Meeting (Mansfield, New Jersey : Orthodox) (Main Author) Notes Microfilm of original records in the Friends Historical Library at Swarthmore College in Pennsylvania and Department of Friends Records in Philadelphia. This meeting was established in 1783 from Burlington and Chesterfield Monthly Meetings. The Orthodox branch was formed in the 1828 Separation. It last met in 1927. Subjects New Jersey, Burlington, Mansfield - Church records Format Manuscript (On Film) Language English Publication Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1947, 1949 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania : Graphic Service Physical on 4 microfilm reels ; 35 mm. Film Notes Note - Location [Film] Men's minutes, 1828-1857 Women's minutes, 1806-1812 - FHL US/CAN Film [ 20408 Items 1-2 ] Minutes, 1857-1927 - FHL US/CAN Film [ 20420 Item 7 ] Membership list, 1717-1925 Marriages, 1783-1895 Removals, 1783-1927 - FHL US/CAN Film [ 20483 Items 9-13 ] Marriages, 1830-1943 Certificates of removal, 1828-1912 - FHL US/CAN Film [ 20431 ] © 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merry Anne Pierson" <merryanne@bellsouth.net> To: <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 8:08 AM Subject: [Q-R] Upper Springfield Monthly Meeting > In the Chesterfield Monthly meeting minutes of New Jersey, I found > certificates of removal for a Coleman family that I'm researching > stating that they had gone to the Upper Springfield Monthly Meeting ca > 1833. Another family member went to the Western District monthly > Meeting. The only Upper Springfield Meeting that I've been able to > identify was the one in Columbiana Co, OH. Was there another? and how > would I find records for that Meeting other than what Hinshaw has in > Encyclopedia Vol. 4? Are the Western District Minutes available somewhere? > > The people I'm searching are Sarah Beakes Pearson Coleman, husband James > Coleman, children Isaac Pearson Coleman and James Beakes Coleman and > Elizabeth Coleman. > > Thanks for any help > Merry Anne > > > ==== QUAKER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: Send an email to: > QUAKER-ROOTS-L-REQUEST@RootsWeb.com > The ONLY word in your message should be UNSUBSCRIBE. > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.0 - Release Date: 3/21/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.0 - Release Date: 3/21/2005

Tom Hill asks: I would like to know the dates in the Taber article. L.[ouis] T.[aber], "Biographical Notes and Anecdotes: Amos Battey," FRIEND (3 m. 21, 1885): 259-260. L.[ouis] T.[aber], "Hannah H. Battey," FRIEND (3 m. 6, 1886): 243-244. I have transciptions of these articles, if anyone would like them. Farewell, Edsel Burdge Jr. 1593 Pinola Road Shippensburg, PA 17257

I had great difficulty running down the dates of existence for the Wilburites in Ferrisburgh Quarterly Meeting in Vermont, so I find this lead very helpful. I would like to know the dates in the Taber article. As to the early Wilburites in Iowa, Hesper MM later became Winneshiek MM. There was a Winnesheik (Wilburite) MM in the 1850s and 1860s: http://www.quakermeetings.com/viewRecord_display?anID=TST2035L and a Red Cedar (Wilburite): http://www.quakermeetings.com/viewRecord_display?anID=TST1549L [both one-line URLs] Later the Ohio YM (Wilburite) established Hickory Grove Quarterly Meeting and a few monthly meetings in eastern Iowa that transferred to Iowa YM (Conservative) in 1918. My Index of Monthly Meetings in North America cites three good sources on the Iowa Wilburites: William Hodgson, The Society of Friends in the Nineteenth Century: a Historical View of the Successive Convulsions and Schisms Therein During That Period (1875), Chapt XIII, p. 226ff; Jones, the Quakers of Iowa (1914), p. 154f; and An Exposition of the Proceedings Which Led to a Separation in Red Cedar Monthly and Salem Quarterly Meetings, with Some of the Reasons Why Friends Pursued the Course They Did (Marion, Iowa 1855). Tom Thomas C. Hill 425 Walnut Street, Suite 1800 Cincinnati, OH 45202 U.S.A. e-mail: tomhill@nuvox.com www.quakermeetings.com -----Original Message----- From: Edsel B. Burdge, Jr. [mailto:ebbpinola@innernet.net] Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2005 12:19 PM To: QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Q-R] Vermont Wilburites in Hesper, Iowa In the 1880s, Louis Taber wrote a series of articles in the FRIEND (Phila.) about the Quakers of Starksboro, Vt. In a short biography of Hannah (Hoag) Battey, in the FRIEND (3 m. 6, 1886): 243-244, he notes: "Narcissa Battey, Hannah's daughter, and Joseph Hoag's granddaughter, . . . married a young man who was a member of the "Smaller Body" in New England. Starksboro Monthly Meeting received from him a certificate in order for the marriage; and gave her in return a removal certificate. For this act of insubordination, Ferrisburg Quarterly Meeting attempted to lay Starksboro Monthly Meeting down. The result was a division. "Not very long after the division, the most of the more conservative Friends removed and settled in and near Hesper, Iowa, and held a meeting. And pretty soon afterward, their old friends and neighbors removed, and settled amongst them, and held another meeting." In another article in the FRIEND (3 m. 21, 1885): 259-260, about Vermont minister Amos Battey, Taber notes: "Sometime after the division in Ferrisburg Quarter, he and his friends removed to Hesper, Iowa. Those composing the other branch [Gurneyite] also removed and settled amongst them, and Starksboro Monthly Meeting was laid down." Hesper is in Winneshiek Co., Iowa. Louis Jones, THE QUAKERS OF IOWA, pp, 70-72, notes that Friends first settled in Winneshiek Co. Iowa, in 1853. In 1855, Salem Quarter (Iowa) of Indiana YM (Gurneyite) set up Winneshiek MM with two preparative Meetings Winneshiek and Springwater. But Jones makes no mention of a Wilburite meeting at Hesper. Does anyone have any information about the Wilburite Friends at Hesper? Farewell, Edsel Burdge Jr.