I am the host of a family web page and recently, a person asked about the name "Elwood". He noted that in our family, the name Elwood was used a number of times. At the same time, he noted that there are a number of meetings with the same name. He asks if meetings are named for a family name? Or, if this is a family tradition of giving a person the name of a meeting? He descends from Charity Haworth and Thomas Elwood Posegate. Ron Haworth Planning our 310 year reunion celebration

Sorry, Banks, I don't have anything on Elizabeth Grant. There's quite a long discussion on a genforum message board about the lack of documentation that William Gifford and Elizabeth Grant whose marriage record exists in London are actually the parents of Robert Gifford. http://genforum.genealogy.com/gifford/messages/176.html In my line of descent below I left out a generation. Here's how it should read: William Gifford/Elizabeth Grant Robert Gifford/Sarah Wing Jeremiah Gifford/Mary Wright Benjamin Gifford/Eunice Beard Hannah Gifford/William Beeson Jonathan L. Beeson/Miriam Hinshaw William Meredith Beeson/Malinda Mason Lillie Mae Beeson/the Rev.Stephen Davis Horine (my ggrandparents) -----Original Message----- From: Banks Hinshaw [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 6:01 PM To: Leslie Hope; [email protected] Cc: 'Gregory Morley' Subject: Re: [Q-R] GIFFORD Leslie Could you send me some source material for Elizabeth Grant. She is one who has eluded me. Thanks. I am related to Miriam through John of County Tyrone (b. 1747). Banks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Hope" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "'Banks Hinshaw'" <[email protected]>; "'Gregory Morley'" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 7:40 PM Subject: RE: [Q-R] GIFFORD > Here's my Gifford line: > > William Gifford/Elizabeth Grant > Robert Gifford/Sarah Wing > Jeremiah Gifford/Mary Wright > Benjamin Gifford/Eunice Beard > Hannah Gifford/William Beeson > Jonathan L. Beeson/Miriam Hinshaw > Lillie Mae Beeson/the Rev.Stephen Davis Horine (my ggrandparents) > > Marilyn Monroe is also a Gifford descendant (and a Mayflower descendant) > if > her father is who he is said to be. > > leslie hope > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Banks Hinshaw > Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 2:23 PM > To: Gregory Morley > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Q-R] GIFFORD > > Greg, > > That is my line but I am not descended from William Gifford who married > Kezia Jones but from his sister Eunice, who married Jesse Hinshaw . The > William I mentioned was this William's great great grandfather. I am > interested in your source, which may very well be me. James Bellarts > states > the marriage of Jonathan Gifford and Eunis Beard is recorded in "The > Sherburn Legal Book, Book I, page 112. He also notes that they left > Nantucket and he documents a Eunice Gifford as born 20 June 1778 in North > Carolina. Bellarts failed to connect this Eunice to Jonathan and Eunice > from > Nantucket but I noted many years ago that Hiram Hilty says that a Jonathan > Gifford was rocf at New Garden Monthly Meeting between 1771 and 1775. For > this he quotes: Dorothy Lloyd Gilbert, "First Friends at New Garden in > North > Carolina", Bulletin of the Friends Historical Association, Haverford, Pa., > Autumn. 1945. The connection, once recognized, can be confirmed in > William > Wade Hinshaw. Jonathan Giffo! > rd descends through his grandmother Mary Wright from two Mayflower > passengers, John Soule and Francis Cooke, thus any descendent of Jeremiah > Gifford and Mary Wright has Mayflower ancestry. > > Happy Thanksgiving. > > Banks Hinshaw > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gregory Morley" <[email protected]> > To: "Banks Hinshaw" <[email protected]> > Cc: "James Peacock" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 4:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Q-R] GIFFORD > > >>I need to look at this more closely but a cursory review of my sources >> indicate my 5G-grandfather, Nathan Stubbs, Sr., married Elizabeth >> Jones (dt. of Francis and Sarah (Jones) Jones), older sister to Kezia >> Jones who married William Gifford, b. 10-20-1773, d. 1813 (s. of >> Jonathan and Eunice (Macy) Gifford of Nantucket, MA). The source >> states this Gifford line descended from the Mayflower. Is this your >> William Gifford? (Source: Jones, C. B. (1951). Jones and related >> families. Marcellus, MI: Private) >> >> I wonder if this Gifford line is related to Lucy Gifford, who married >> Dewitt Randall, their son Charles Randall b. 9-3-1887, m. Mary Frances >> Taylor 5-19-1909 at Elk MM, West Elkton, OH. >> >> Regards, >> >> Gregory Morley >> Jones>Stubbs>Mendenhall>Taylor >> >> On Nov 27, 2008, at 7:35 AM, Banks Hinshaw wrote: >> >> Jim, >> >> I am descended from William Gifford the immigrant whoses children were >> (at >> least) Mary, John, Patience, Annaniah, William, Robert, and >> Christopher. I >> am from Robert's line (wife Sarah Wing) and his son Jeremiah. >> Jeremiah's >> grandson Jonathan migrated to North Carolina where I live today. I have >> some information on other William Gifford offspring. Which line >> interests >> you? >> >> Banks Hinshaw >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "James Peacock" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:53 PM >> Subject: [Q-R] GIFFORD >> >> >>> My wife was a Gifford and descended from William Gifford of Sandwich, >>> Massachusetts. Interested in other descendants of William Gifford and >>> your lines of descendants. 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In 1870 census: Pittsboro, Chatham Co., NC Jacob Overman living next to Job Stuart. Who were the parents and grandparents of both men. I believe they were Quakers as the Pike's and Overman's were. Kay?

Greg, That is my line but I am not descended from William Gifford who married Kezia Jones but from his sister Eunice, who married Jesse Hinshaw . The William I mentioned was this William's great great grandfather. I am interested in your source, which may very well be me. James Bellarts states the marriage of Jonathan Gifford and Eunis Beard is recorded in "The Sherburn Legal Book, Book I, page 112. He also notes that they left Nantucket and he documents a Eunice Gifford as born 20 June 1778 in North Carolina. Bellarts failed to connect this Eunice to Jonathan and Eunice from Nantucket but I noted many years ago that Hiram Hilty says that a Jonathan Gifford was rocf at New Garden Monthly Meeting between 1771 and 1775. For this he quotes: Dorothy Lloyd Gilbert, "First Friends at New Garden in North Carolina", Bulletin of the Friends Historical Association, Haverford, Pa., Autumn. 1945. The connection, once recognized, can be confirmed in William Wade Hinshaw. Jonathan Gifford descends through his grandmother Mary Wright from two Mayflower passengers, John Soule and Francis Cooke, thus any descendent of Jeremiah Gifford and Mary Wright has Mayflower ancestry. Happy Thanksgiving. Banks Hinshaw ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Morley" <[email protected]> To: "Banks Hinshaw" <[email protected]> Cc: "James Peacock" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Q-R] GIFFORD >I need to look at this more closely but a cursory review of my sources > indicate my 5G-grandfather, Nathan Stubbs, Sr., married Elizabeth > Jones (dt. of Francis and Sarah (Jones) Jones), older sister to Kezia > Jones who married William Gifford, b. 10-20-1773, d. 1813 (s. of > Jonathan and Eunice (Macy) Gifford of Nantucket, MA). The source > states this Gifford line descended from the Mayflower. Is this your > William Gifford? (Source: Jones, C. B. (1951). Jones and related > families. Marcellus, MI: Private) > > I wonder if this Gifford line is related to Lucy Gifford, who married > Dewitt Randall, their son Charles Randall b. 9-3-1887, m. Mary Frances > Taylor 5-19-1909 at Elk MM, West Elkton, OH. > > Regards, > > Gregory Morley > Jones>Stubbs>Mendenhall>Taylor > > On Nov 27, 2008, at 7:35 AM, Banks Hinshaw wrote: > > Jim, > > I am descended from William Gifford the immigrant whoses children were > (at > least) Mary, John, Patience, Annaniah, William, Robert, and > Christopher. I > am from Robert's line (wife Sarah Wing) and his son Jeremiah. > Jeremiah's > grandson Jonathan migrated to North Carolina where I live today. I have > some information on other William Gifford offspring. Which line > interests > you? > > Banks Hinshaw > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Peacock" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:53 PM > Subject: [Q-R] GIFFORD > > >> My wife was a Gifford and descended from William Gifford of Sandwich, >> Massachusetts. Interested in other descendants of William Gifford and >> your lines of descendants. Happy to share information. >> >> Jim >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > >

Interesting. My source, stated below, adds that he and his two nephews did their initial research in Preble Co., Ohio in 1941 and later in 1946. He writes: "Probably the first Jones descendant we visited there was a fine old gentleman named Gifford who lived a couple of miles or so southeast of West Elkton. He brought out a Preble County history (book) describing the early history of the Jones family in Ohio and of their journey from North Carolina to Ohio in 1805" (p. 2). Jones credits Roger Avery Stubbs: "...he compiled the entire Stubbs branch and most of the Johnson and Gifford branches himself" (p. 3). Regarding Kezia Jones and William Gifford: they married 3-8-1797 at Cane Creek (NC) MM. Both were gct to Ohio from NC 9-7-1812 (does not indicate MM). Both died of "cold plague" in 1813, and "His will is in Book 7, page 527, Probate Court, Eaton, O" (p.75). In addition, Hinshaw Vol. 1, p. 811 states their children (Nathan, Henry, and William, Jr.) were gct to Miami (Ohio) MM from Deep River (NC) MM, 2-5-1810 (p.75). If I understand you correctly: Wiiliam Gifford>Jeremiah Gifford m. Mary Wright>Benjamin Gifford>Jonathan Gifford> William Gifford. How do you connect Mary Wright to John Soule and Francis Cooke, or is that the nature of your investigation? And Happy Thanksgiving to you. gm On Nov 27, 2008, at 4:22 PM, Banks Hinshaw wrote: Greg, That is my line but I am not descended from William Gifford who married Kezia Jones but from his sister Eunice, who married Jesse Hinshaw . The William I mentioned was this William's great great grandfather. I am interested in your source, which may very well be me. James Bellarts states the marriage of Jonathan Gifford and Eunis Beard is recorded in "The Sherburn Legal Book, Book I, page 112. He also notes that they left Nantucket and he documents a Eunice Gifford as born 20 June 1778 in North Carolina. Bellarts failed to connect this Eunice to Jonathan and Eunice from Nantucket but I noted many years ago thatHiram Hilty says that a Jonathan Gifford was rocf at New Garden Monthly Meeting between 1771 and 1775. For this he quotes: Dorothy Lloyd Gilbert, "First Friends at New Garden in North Carolina", Bulletin of the Friends Historical Association, Haverford, Pa., Autumn. 1945. The connection, once recognized, can be confirmed in William Wade Hinshaw. Jonathan Gifford descends through his grandmother Mary Wright from two Mayflower passengers, John Soule and Francis Cooke, thus any descendent of Jeremiah Gifford and Mary Wright has Mayflower ancestry. Happy Thanksgiving. Banks Hinshaw ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Morley" <[email protected]> To: "Banks Hinshaw" <[email protected]> Cc: "James Peacock" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Q-R] GIFFORD >I need to look at this more closely but a cursory review of my sources > indicate my 5G-grandfather, Nathan Stubbs, Sr., married Elizabeth > Jones (dt. of Francis and Sarah (Jones) Jones), older sister to Kezia > Jones who married William Gifford, b. 10-20-1773, d. 1813 (s. of > Jonathan and Eunice (Macy) Gifford of Nantucket, MA). The source > states this Gifford line descended from the Mayflower. Is this your > William Gifford? (Source: Jones, C. B. (1951). Jones and related > families. Marcellus, MI: Private) > > I wonder if this Gifford line is related to Lucy Gifford, who married > Dewitt Randall, their son Charles Randall b. 9-3-1887, m. Mary Frances > Taylor 5-19-1909 at Elk MM, West Elkton, OH. > > Regards, > > Gregory Morley > Jones>Stubbs>Mendenhall>Taylor > > On Nov 27, 2008, at 7:35 AM, Banks Hinshaw wrote: > > Jim, > > I am descended from William Gifford the immigrant whoses children were > (at > least) Mary, John, Patience, Annaniah, William, Robert, and > Christopher. I > am from Robert's line (wife Sarah Wing) and his son Jeremiah. > Jeremiah's > grandson Jonathan migrated to North Carolina where I live today. I have > some information on other William Gifford offspring. Which line > interests > you? > > Banks Hinshaw > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Peacock" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:53 PM > Subject: [Q-R] GIFFORD > > >> My wife was a Gifford and descended from William Gifford of Sandwich, >> Massachusetts. Interested in other descendants of William Gifford and >> your lines of descendants. Happy to share information. >> >> Jim >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > >

Here's my Gifford line: William Gifford/Elizabeth Grant Robert Gifford/Sarah Wing Jeremiah Gifford/Mary Wright Benjamin Gifford/Eunice Beard Hannah Gifford/William Beeson Jonathan L. Beeson/Miriam Hinshaw Lillie Mae Beeson/the Rev.Stephen Davis Horine (my ggrandparents) Marilyn Monroe is also a Gifford descendant (and a Mayflower descendant) if her father is who he is said to be. leslie hope -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Banks Hinshaw Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 2:23 PM To: Gregory Morley Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Q-R] GIFFORD Greg, That is my line but I am not descended from William Gifford who married Kezia Jones but from his sister Eunice, who married Jesse Hinshaw . The William I mentioned was this William's great great grandfather. I am interested in your source, which may very well be me. James Bellarts states the marriage of Jonathan Gifford and Eunis Beard is recorded in "The Sherburn Legal Book, Book I, page 112. He also notes that they left Nantucket and he documents a Eunice Gifford as born 20 June 1778 in North Carolina. Bellarts failed to connect this Eunice to Jonathan and Eunice from Nantucket but I noted many years ago that Hiram Hilty says that a Jonathan Gifford was rocf at New Garden Monthly Meeting between 1771 and 1775. For this he quotes: Dorothy Lloyd Gilbert, "First Friends at New Garden in North Carolina", Bulletin of the Friends Historical Association, Haverford, Pa., Autumn. 1945. The connection, once recognized, can be confirmed in William Wade Hinshaw. Jonathan Giffo! rd descends through his grandmother Mary Wright from two Mayflower passengers, John Soule and Francis Cooke, thus any descendent of Jeremiah Gifford and Mary Wright has Mayflower ancestry. Happy Thanksgiving. Banks Hinshaw ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Morley" <[email protected]> To: "Banks Hinshaw" <[email protected]> Cc: "James Peacock" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Q-R] GIFFORD >I need to look at this more closely but a cursory review of my sources > indicate my 5G-grandfather, Nathan Stubbs, Sr., married Elizabeth > Jones (dt. of Francis and Sarah (Jones) Jones), older sister to Kezia > Jones who married William Gifford, b. 10-20-1773, d. 1813 (s. of > Jonathan and Eunice (Macy) Gifford of Nantucket, MA). The source > states this Gifford line descended from the Mayflower. Is this your > William Gifford? (Source: Jones, C. B. (1951). Jones and related > families. Marcellus, MI: Private) > > I wonder if this Gifford line is related to Lucy Gifford, who married > Dewitt Randall, their son Charles Randall b. 9-3-1887, m. Mary Frances > Taylor 5-19-1909 at Elk MM, West Elkton, OH. > > Regards, > > Gregory Morley > Jones>Stubbs>Mendenhall>Taylor > > On Nov 27, 2008, at 7:35 AM, Banks Hinshaw wrote: > > Jim, > > I am descended from William Gifford the immigrant whoses children were > (at > least) Mary, John, Patience, Annaniah, William, Robert, and > Christopher. I > am from Robert's line (wife Sarah Wing) and his son Jeremiah. > Jeremiah's > grandson Jonathan migrated to North Carolina where I live today. I have > some information on other William Gifford offspring. Which line > interests > you? > > Banks Hinshaw > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Peacock" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:53 PM > Subject: [Q-R] GIFFORD > > >> My wife was a Gifford and descended from William Gifford of Sandwich, >> Massachusetts. Interested in other descendants of William Gifford and >> your lines of descendants. Happy to share information. >> >> Jim >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1567 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 4:05 PM

I need to look at this more closely but a cursory review of my sources indicate my 5G-grandfather, Nathan Stubbs, Sr., married Elizabeth Jones (dt. of Francis and Sarah (Jones) Jones), older sister to Kezia Jones who married William Gifford, b. 10-20-1773, d. 1813 (s. of Jonathan and Eunice (Macy) Gifford of Nantucket, MA). The source states this Gifford line descended from the Mayflower. Is this your William Gifford? (Source: Jones, C. B. (1951). Jones and related families. Marcellus, MI: Private) I wonder if this Gifford line is related to Lucy Gifford, who married Dewitt Randall, their son Charles Randall b. 9-3-1887, m. Mary Frances Taylor 5-19-1909 at Elk MM, West Elkton, OH. Regards, Gregory Morley Jones>Stubbs>Mendenhall>Taylor On Nov 27, 2008, at 7:35 AM, Banks Hinshaw wrote: Jim, I am descended from William Gifford the immigrant whoses children were (at least) Mary, John, Patience, Annaniah, William, Robert, and Christopher. I am from Robert's line (wife Sarah Wing) and his son Jeremiah. Jeremiah's grandson Jonathan migrated to North Carolina where I live today. I have some information on other William Gifford offspring. Which line interests you? Banks Hinshaw ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Peacock" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:53 PM Subject: [Q-R] GIFFORD > My wife was a Gifford and descended from William Gifford of Sandwich, > Massachusetts. Interested in other descendants of William Gifford and > your lines of descendants. Happy to share information. > > Jim > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim, I am descended from William Gifford the immigrant whoses children were (at least) Mary, John, Patience, Annaniah, William, Robert, and Christopher. I am from Robert's line (wife Sarah Wing) and his son Jeremiah. Jeremiah's grandson Jonathan migrated to North Carolina where I live today. I have some information on other William Gifford offspring. Which line interests you? Banks Hinshaw ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Peacock" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:53 PM Subject: [Q-R] GIFFORD > My wife was a Gifford and descended from William Gifford of Sandwich, > Massachusetts. Interested in other descendants of William Gifford and > your lines of descendants. Happy to share information. > > Jim > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Simply put, these works aren't for sale to private individuals. Tom Hamm Jim Hazard prepared a comprehensive list of genealogical information for > all > meetings with records in the New York Yearly Meeting archives as stored in > the Friends Historical Library at Swarthmore. He has now started on > Philadelphia YM local-meeting records, visiting FHL two or three days a > week. I believe a complete set of hard copies is only available at > Swarthmore. Some of the other Quaker libraries, like Earlham, have > photocopies of some Hazard volumes, and the entire NYYM database is on > line > at the website: > > http://www.swarthmore.edu/Library/friends/hazard/ > > I did not find that FHL has yet posted on line any of Hazard's > Philadelphia > YM abstracts, though I heard recently that FHL staff expect to do so soon. > Guilford College has the Abington abstracts cataloged as > > Title: Quaker records : Abington Monthly Meeting / James E. Hazard. > Publication info: Swarthmore, Pa. : Friends Historical Library, Swarthmore > College, 2007. > Call Number: Quaker Abstract BX7791.H39 Q3 2006 v.2 > Title: Applied photography/ [by] C.R. Arnold, P.J. Rolls [and] J.C.J. > Stewart; edited by D.A. Spencer. > Publication info: London: New York: Focal Press, c1971. > Call Number: TR692 .A75 1971 > http://www.guilford.edu/about_guilford/services_and_administration/library/s > ervices/ts/new/new.html > > > Tom > > Thomas C. Hill > 425 Walnut Street, #1800 > Cincinnati, OH 45202 U.S.A. > [email protected] > www.QuakerMeetings.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] On Behalf Of jwhipple > Sent: 27 November 2008 12:21 AM > Subject: [Q-R] Abington PA BMD records published by James E. Hazard > > Hello > > I found reference to a book published in 2007 by Friends Historical > Library > at Swarthmore but can not find it for sale anywhere, including the > Swarthmore bookstore. > > Can anyone tell me where to buy > > Hazard, James Edgerton, _Quaker Records - Abington Monthly Meeting,_ > Swarthmore, 2007? > > Thanks! > > Judy Cox Whipple > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jim Hazard prepared a comprehensive list of genealogical information for all meetings with records in the New York Yearly Meeting archives as stored in the Friends Historical Library at Swarthmore. He has now started on Philadelphia YM local-meeting records, visiting FHL two or three days a week. I believe a complete set of hard copies is only available at Swarthmore. Some of the other Quaker libraries, like Earlham, have photocopies of some Hazard volumes, and the entire NYYM database is on line at the website: http://www.swarthmore.edu/Library/friends/hazard/ I did not find that FHL has yet posted on line any of Hazard's Philadelphia YM abstracts, though I heard recently that FHL staff expect to do so soon. Guilford College has the Abington abstracts cataloged as Title: Quaker records : Abington Monthly Meeting / James E. Hazard. Publication info: Swarthmore, Pa. : Friends Historical Library, Swarthmore College, 2007. Call Number: Quaker Abstract BX7791.H39 Q3 2006 v.2 Title: Applied photography/ [by] C.R. Arnold, P.J. Rolls [and] J.C.J. Stewart; edited by D.A. Spencer. Publication info: London: New York: Focal Press, c1971. Call Number: TR692 .A75 1971 http://www.guilford.edu/about_guilford/services_and_administration/library/s ervices/ts/new/new.html Tom Thomas C. Hill 425 Walnut Street, #1800 Cincinnati, OH 45202 U.S.A. [email protected] www.QuakerMeetings.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] On Behalf Of jwhipple Sent: 27 November 2008 12:21 AM Subject: [Q-R] Abington PA BMD records published by James E. Hazard Hello I found reference to a book published in 2007 by Friends Historical Library at Swarthmore but can not find it for sale anywhere, including the Swarthmore bookstore. Can anyone tell me where to buy Hazard, James Edgerton, _Quaker Records - Abington Monthly Meeting,_ Swarthmore, 2007? Thanks! Judy Cox Whipple

My wife was a Gifford and descended from William Gifford of Sandwich, Massachusetts. Interested in other descendants of William Gifford and your lines of descendants. Happy to share information. Jim

Hello I found reference to a book published in 2007 by Friends Historical Library at Swarthmore but can not find it for sale anywhere, including the Swarthmore bookstore. Can anyone tell me where to buy Hazard, James Edgerton, _Quaker Records - Abington Monthly Meeting,_ Swarthmore, 2007? Thanks! Judy Cox Whipple

Information about Lydia Allen... I am at a dead end in researching her. This is the info that I have.; She was born abt. 1740. I don't know where. Married to John Bryant 7 Dec. 1760 in Core Sound, Carteret Co. N.C. I have found research, by others, that she was married to a James Bryant. That is incorrect, as I have a copy of John's will in which he mentions his wife Lydia. They had the following children: Garner- Nicholas- John- Elizabeth- Rebekah- Lydia- Hannah- Thomas- Ruth- Beulah-(my ggg-grandmother) and Hope. I appreciate any help you can give me. Bernadine Smith Banning, Calif. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 12:01 AM Subject: QUAKER-ROOTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 228 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Gifford family and Nantucket (Elisabeth Stewart) > 2. Re: QUAKER-ROOTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 227 (Robert Burns) > 3. Re: QUAKER-ROOTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 224 ([email protected]) > 4. Re: Nantucket to Guilford County (Leslie Hope) > 5. Robert Burns (Sue Maxwell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:53:01 -0800 > From: Elisabeth Stewart <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Q-R] Gifford family and Nantucket > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Leslie, > The immigrant William<1> Gifford settled in Sandwich, Mass. on Cape > Cod. Many of the > Cape Giffords have been Quaker and there were several marriages with the > families of > Nantucket. You might find interesting the book by A.L. Bowerman "A > Bowerman Family > History, Some Descendants of Thomas Boreman (c.1623-1663) of Barnstable, > New Plymouth > Colony, with allied Families: Bowman, Clifton, Gifford, Hoag & Wing" > Gateway Press, > Baltimore, MD, 1998. > Betsy Stewart >> Message: 7 >> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:36:38 -0800 >> From: "Leslie Hope" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Q-R] Nantucket to Guilford County >> To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> I'm descended from Barnard, Beard, Bunker, Coffin, Davis, Gardner, >> Gifford, >> Macy, Starbuck, Swain (a step-gxgrandfather), Dixon and Hussey, with >> multiple lines from many of these surnames. Were all of these were >> transfers from Nantucket? I'm thinking of Beard, Gifford,Dixon and Davis >> in >> particular. The last stop on my famlies' Quaker migration was the Quaker >> colony of Whittier CA c. 1870-1900. >> >> Leslie Hoag Hope >> Santa Monica Cyn, CA >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:07:27 -0800 > From: Robert Burns <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Q-R] QUAKER-ROOTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 227 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Some editing is in order somewhere. E.g., I've seen Howard Cook's > long E-mail 3-4 times in two E-mails today. > >>. . . > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:54:59 EST > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Q-R] QUAKER-ROOTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 224 > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > > In a message dated 11/22/08 3:21:43 PM, [email protected] writes: > > >> Mr. Cook;? ?? I have Quaker grandparents who migrated to Carteret Co.? >> John >> Bryant married my ggggg-grandmother (Lydia Allen) 7 dec. 1760 in Carteret >> Co.? You mentioned you have a grandfather by the name of John Allen IV. >> Have >> you ran across a Lydia, born abt. 1840, in your research? She is one of >> my >> dead ends. >> Bernadine Smith? ? [email protected] >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 2:08 PM >> Subject: QUAKER-ROOTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 224 >> >> > > I have 11 Lydia Allens in my Allen family history all descended from John > and > Amy Cox Allen and only one Bryant, who was not married to Lydia Allen. > You > will have to give me more clues/tree info.. Middle name?, what quaker > meeting > to or from, Father and mother etc. > > Howard Cook > > > ************** > One site has it all. Your email accounts, your > social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com > today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?o > ptin=new-dp%26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:31:12 -0800 > From: "Leslie Hope" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Q-R] Nantucket to Guilford County > To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I'm descended from the immigrant Charles Davis /Davies m. Hannah Matson. > Both are buried at the Cane Creek Burying Ground. The rest of my line is > > > > John Davis/Davies m. Mary Chamness . Both are buried at the Cane Creek > Burying Ground > > William Davis m. Ann Marshall/Marshill (married at Cane Creek MM, died in > Ohio) > > Mark Davis m. Rebecca Osborne (both b. in NC, m. in Wayne Co, IN; buried > in > Friends Cemeteries in IA and KS respectively) > > Rachel Davis m. James Henry Horine (m. Grant Co IN, buried in Newell > Cemetery, Buena Vista, IA) > > > > Rachel's cousin, Nele Davis, son of Ezra Davis and Eleanor Hadley (both b. > in NC) was the first member of my family to migrate to Whittier from the > Quaker settlement of Baraboo, Sauk Co. WI in abt 1870. My ggrandparents, > the > Rev. Stephen Davis Horine m. Lillie Beeson, followed him. > > > > There is a book by Eleanor M. Davis about the Davis family called Davis, > a > Quaker Family. I'm fortunate to have a copy. It is not completely > accurate, > but she did a lot of work and it is very comprehensive. She did it all > before computers, websites, census data online and email. > > > > Leslie > > > > > > From: margo M [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 3:03 PM > To: [email protected]; Leslie Hope > Subject: Re: [Q-R] Nantucket to Guilford County > > > > > Leslie; who is your Davis?? > > > > Joseph Wicker Davis and Susannah Stanton Davis' son Enoch is my line. > Enoch > left Carteret County to end up in Cass County, Michigan. > > > > would love to know more of your side.... > > --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Leslie Hope <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Leslie Hope <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Q-R] Nantucket to Guilford County > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 5:36 PM > > I'm descended from Barnard, Beard, Bunker, Coffin, Davis, Gardner, > Gifford, > Macy, Starbuck, Swain (a step-gxgrandfather), Dixon and Hussey, with > multiple lines from many of these surnames. Were all of these were > transfers from Nantucket? I'm thinking of Beard, Gifford,Dixon and Davis > in > particular. The last stop on my famlies' Quaker migration was the Quaker > colony of Whittier CA c. 1870-1900. > > Leslie Hoag Hope > Santa Monica Cyn, CA > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of margo M > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 4:22 AM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Q-R] Nantucket to Guilford County > > Very interesting, Howard! as i mentioned tto another poster , I am > descended of the Davis / Stanton/ Borden lines of which you all are > writing > . I am just starting to research and am learning from all of your > posts!Margo > > > Dear fellow and former Quakers, > What I like about Quaker history are the families and how they stayed > together as Quaker families as they traveled from England or Ireland to > NJ, > NY to Nantucket and then to NC and SC and then to Ind, Ill, Oh, etc and > then > to Or, CA, KS even TX in my case. The place they moved to was dicated by > proximity to other Quakers they knew or were related to. I want to write a > book someday. > > In regard to migration from Nantucket to NC. I have a book "The Quaker > Carolina Experience" by Seth Hinshaw. In it, he describes the migration to > NC mostly from Nantucket and how this happened 1770 to 1775. this was > because of the coming Revolutionary war and Nantucket as an island was > exposed, the whaling industry had slowed down and Nantucket also wasn't > good > for farming. > Hinshaw says > that most went first to New Garden, NC meeting and then some to Cane > Creek, > NC (where Underground RR president, Levi Coffin was born). Libni Coffin > was > the > > first reported transfer to New Garden followed by 43 certificates with > these > names: Barnard, Barney, Beard, Bunker, Clasby, Coffin, Coggeshall, Davis, > Gardner, Gifford, Gifford, Macy,Ray, Russell, Starbuck (did you know > Starbucks Coffee was named after the Nantucket Starbuck character in Moby > Dick?), Stanton, Swain, Sweet, Way, Wickersham, Reece, Dixon, Folger > (Lucretia Mott's parents were Folger and Coffin) and Hussey. > > To much data to transcribe, but I am glad to help with more research. New > Garden and Cane Cane Creek, Deep Creek meetings were important in the > Revolutionary war. I have ancestors from all of these meetings and have > personaly visted all 3. The last major battle of the war until Yorktown > was > The Battle of Guilford County Courthouse (of Patriot fame). This battle > started at New Garden, NC. Cornwallis after losing 25-35% of his officers > and men in the battle, then turned North to Yorktown. His first stop on > the > way to Yorktown was at Dixon's mill and Cane Creek. British soldiers are > buried at Cane Creek. Nathaniel Green, Washington's #2 general and at the > battle was a Quaker and after the war he wrote back to New Garden and > personaly thanked them for caring for the dead and wounded on both sides. > > Deep Creek and Cane Creek were key spots for the pre Revolutionary > conflict > (by 10 years) called either the Whig/Tory War or the War for Regulation. > Quakers were both willing and unwilling participants in this war. Same > participants in this war too, the colonists against the British. My GGGG > grandfather John Allen IV house is still standing at the final battle > ground > of this war at High > > Point, NC where Deep Creek meeting is located. > > Well, enough Quaker and US history for now. > > Howard W Cook > > > ************** > One site has it all. Your email > accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. 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My ggg, as I said, Shubael Swain, looked like Robert > Burns- one man indicated there was a conversation about this, but I missed > it- could someone fill me in ? Sue > > > > Also- some of you mentioned Swains- mine moved to NYC, and Ohio. Anyone > have > any Swains in NYC or Mass? I think that my family may be related to > Charles > Folger Swain, the temperance whaler in NYC, who married a Leggett, and one > of the Swain daughters did also. > > > > Sue > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the QUAKER-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the QUAKER-ROOTS mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of QUAKER-ROOTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 228 > ******************************************** >

Hi folks, I have enjoyed reading the different pieces of information concerning Guilford, N.C. I am in nw Ohio and wondering if my ggg/grandmothers family were Quakers. Her name is Charity Mortimore born in Guilford,N.C.1813 and her fathers name was Robert born abt. 1771 and her mother was Sarah Crouch born abt. 1775 in Guilford, N.C. I would appreciate in learning whether the family was Quaker and any information that can be found. Thankyou , Gary

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Joan Whitney, None of the names are familiar except James W. Wilson. However to my knowledge which aint much, I don't know of any of our quaker kin living in Illinois. Sorry wish I could help. Jered **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001)

I forgot to mention that the book I named talks mostly about the families who moved to NC, as that is where his went. I think the author is Robert H. Swain, and of course, intermarriage brings in many other families, all being those I have seen mentioned as being from Nantucket. Sue

I only know about Quaker movement from Nantucket from surname books. For example, The Swains of Nantucket: Tales and Trails, tells about a variety of families from Nantucket who moved to other places. This particular book talks about the Quaker movement to NC. It mentions the group that moved to Easton, NY on the Hudson, also. Other surname books do the same. Most of you have probably tried these books, but I just thought I would mention it. Although Swains moved to Easton, I read a book about all of the people who moved there and it never mentions Swains. There is one person, who has been on line, who has a huge genealogy of the Macy's, Folgers and all of the other families you are mentioning in your emails. She also has a Shubael Swain, who was a ship captain, in her line. I think my Swains are cousins with the Folgers and some of these others, and am going to a weeklong workshop to see if I can crack my brickwall. I want to mention again, that my ggg looked like Robert Burns, and someone sent a digest email that sounded like there was conversation going on about Robert Burns- so if there was, I must have missed it and would like to know what was said- Sue

Nathan Lamb and Mary of Randolph Co. N C were Quakers Our Marmaduke's son was a Methodist preacher in Tenn and Madison Co., NC and I believe Marmaduke was a Methodist, too. He married a Rollins in Randolph Co., NC who were not Quakers so they may have been Methodist. Were Nathan's other children Quakers? Does anyone know who all Nathan's children were? Kay in Tennessee

I am trying to prove that [Nathan?] Marmaduke Lamb born 1790 N C was the son of Nathan and Mary Lamb of Randolph Co., NC as well as others. Nathan left a will in1839 but from records I have gathered if they are correct he left what he had to the only children of his who were living in NC at that time. The rest had gone to Greene Co., Tn or Crawford Co., Ill. The trouble is that the census of N C don't fit all the children of Nathan if I am correct. Kay Lamb in Tennessee