I forgot to add the names of the two broken branches of my tree-not yet attached. did add them in the A-I and the S-Z lists, but have to add them here. JACKSON-place not yet known m. Jane CROSS of Colchester KIRK-place not yet known m. Florence MAYO of Camberwell, London LAURENCE of Yarmouth, Norfolk MALLOCH of Scotland m. Ethel OLIVER of Islington, London MAYO of London and Colchester, Essex OLIVER of Hackney, and Islington, London PETTITT-place not yet known m. Mary BLAND of Colchester I may have missed a few names, but if I did it's very few... Cornelia
I had a list made up and ready to send last night when my email box locked up and I lost the whole email, so here it is, again, rebuilt and belatedly... JONES-place not yet known m. Wm HARRIS of Stoke Newington KEEGAN-place not yet known m. Arnold WATERFALL of ? KEMP-place not yet known m. Rosemary GRAHAM of ? KENNEDY-place not yet known m. Frederick BASSETT of Leighton Buzzard KING of Colchester, Essex KNOX-place not yet known m. Ada HARRIS of Holsworthy, Devon LARKES of Ireland m. Sarah CROSS(E) of Woodbridge, Suffolk LESLIE-place not yet known m. Wm NORTON of Peckham, Surrey LEWIS-place not yet known m. Anthony DEWHURST of Steeton, Yorks LUCAS-place not yet known m. Priscilla TINDALL of St. Lukes, Middlesex MALLIM-place not yet known m. Frederick HARRIS of Bradford, Yorks MALTBY of Whatton, Nottingham, Grt Grimbley, Lincon, and Apsley Guise, Bedford MANN-place not yet known m. Wm HARRIS of St. Lukes, Middlesex MASON-place not yet known m. Edmond CROSS(E) of Woodbridge, Suffolk MASTERMAN of London, Clapham and Wadsworth, Surrey, Falmouth, Cornwall. MATHER-place not yet known m. Ethel R. T. Z. CROSS of Calcutta, India (British subject) MATHEWS-place not yet known m. Herbert HARRIS of Bingley, Yorks MATHEWS of Holmeside, Durham MAYHEW of Colchester, Essex MERYON of London MILLARD of London MILLER of Tufnell Park MOORE-place not yet known m. Evelyn HARRIS of Abbeywood, Kent MOTT of Marylebone, London MUNTZ of Birmingham NAINBY--place not yet known m. Margaret CROSS(E) of Woodbridge, Suffolk NOBLE of Woolwich, Kent NORTON of Bermondsey and Peckham, Surrey OWEN of Laurance Poultney, Surrey PARKER-place not yet known m. Clarissa CROSS of ? PARKINSON of Needham Market, Suffolk PAUL-place not yet known m. Maude HARRIS of London PEACHY of Wivenhoe PECKOVER of Wisbeck, Cambridge, Fakenham, Norfolk, and many unknown. PENNINGTON-place not yet known m. Ann WATERFALL of Edgware PENROSE of Michelstown, Dublin, Ireland and W. Pancras and Marylebone, London. PICKLES-place not yet known m. Kathleen WATERFALL POOLE-place not yet known m. Maria CROSS of Colchester PRESTON of Cheshunt, Herts PUGH-place not yet known m. Arthur WATERFALL RAHOS DE CASTILL-place not yet known m. Wilmer HARRIS of ? REEVE of Ipswich, Suffolk REEVES of London RICHARDS of Lawford and Colchester, Essex RICHARDSON of Bury St. Edmond and Saxmndham, Suffolk ROBERTS of Workingham, Berks RUSSELL-place not yet known m. Theodore HARRIS of Stoke Newington (this is of the Lord Charles Russell line-anyone know it?) RUSSELL-place not yet known m. Dorothea MOORE of London RUXTON of Paddington, London that's enough for now....S-Z in my next one. taking it easy today, so I should get finished with this and on to other things... Cornelia
Hi Cornelia I am interested in your notes and wonder if you could clarify how Edmond, Joseph and Peter Cross are connected. Do you know where the origin of their Quaker & Ackworth connection lies ? I have added a few notes alongside yours below - in case any of the information I have is new to you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edwin and Cornelia Moore" <fenenga@connpoint.net> To: <QUAKER-BRITISH-ISLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 01 March 2006 00:11 Subject: Re: [Q-B-I] Roll call > hi, Michael, > I have several individuals who went to Ackworth, maybe more than I already > know about. > > 1810 > Eliza Cross b/ 20 May 1800 Colchester dau of Edmond Cross & Ann Parkinson ELIZA (PUPIL 3172) died at Ackworth - do you know the circumstances ? > 1798-1802 > Hezekiah Richards Cross b. 1 Nov 1788 Colchester son of Joseph Cross and > Elizabeeth Richards HEZEKIAH (pupil 2038) > 1781-1784 > Jane Cross b. 7 Sep 1770 Colchester dau of Peter Cross and Elizabeth Burnham JANE (pupil 330) > 1811-1815 > Jeremiah Cross b. 27 Aug 1801 Halstead son of Edmond Cross & Ann Parkinson > 1812-1816 > Lucy Cross b. 15 Aug 1802 dau of Edmond Cross & Ann Parkinson LUCY (pupil 3400) > 1780-1781 > Margaret Cross b. 25 Apr 1767 dau of Peter Cross and Elizabeth Burnham MARGARET (pupil 113) > 1881 > Arthur Wilson Waterfall b. 24 Apr 1868 Airton AT ACKWORTH 1877- ? son of Arthur Waterfall AT ACKWORTH 1845-48 and > Hannah Maria Cartwright AT ACKWORTH 1853-56 > 1881 > George Henry Waterfall b. 7 Jul 1866 Yorks AT ACKWORTH 1877- ? son of Arthur Waterfall and > Hannah Cartwright > 1881 > William Coates Waterfall b. 17 Sep 1870 Airton AT ACKWORTH 1879-1885 son of Arthur Waterfall and > Hannah Cartwright > regards, > Cornelia
I have noted some observations against some of your list - see below I hope these are helpful Best Wishes - Michael Hargreave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edwin and Cornelia Moore" <fenenga@connpoint.net> To: <QUAKER-BRITISH-ISLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 28 February 2006 06:05 Subject: [Q-B-I] a long list of surnames A-H > BRIGHT of Rochdale, Lancs and Putney and Kensington, London ??? IS THIS THE FAMILY OF JOHN BRIGHT< MP AND ACKWORTH OLD SCHOLAR - IF SO, I HAVE A LITTLE DETAIL OF 4 GENERATIONS OF HIS FAMILY AND HIS ACKWORTH CONNECTIONS - > CARTWRIGHT of Lilling, Yorks FIVE CARTWRIGHT SISTERS WERE AT ACKWORTH SCHOOL - ELIZABETH (pupil 6360 at Ackworth 1841-42), SARAH A. (6570 - 1843-46), RACHEL (6739 - 1845-48), MARY (7111 - 1849-52), HANNAH MARIA (7444 - 1853-56) > HARLOCK of Rounds, Northampton SHOULD BE RAUNDS (I THINK) - I HAVE FAIRLY LARGE TREE OF HARLOCK'S DATING FROM SAMUEL (1666-1699) WITH DETAILS OF THEIR CONNECTIONS TO SEVERAL OTHER QUAKER FAMILIES AND THEIR LINKS WITH ACKWORTH SCHOOL. > HOOPER-place not yet known m. Lois WATERFALL of Darrington, Yorks I HAVE AN UP TO DATE ADDRESS FOR LOIS _ ALSO AN OLD SCHOLAR OF ACKWORTH (1945-50) > regards, > Cornelia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
in case this hasn't been seen yet, from Rootsweb Review.... HOLCOMBE: This database has been updated recently with hundreds of names. It contains more than 4,000 descendants of brothers John and Jacob HOLCOMBE who came to Philadelphia in 1700. They were Quakers who came from England with their sister Juliann. John settled in Hunterdon County, New Jersey and accounts for most of the descendants. Sources are annexed to the names. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=john_holcombe not of my line, just decided to send it in... Cornelia
It was not unusual for Quakers to make bequests in favour of one or other of the Quaker Schools - they made regular appeals to Monthly Meetings around the country - Ackworth was set up (by SoF at the encouragement of Dr John Fothergill) to provide education for those children of Quakers "not in affluence". Although John Thurlow is not recorded as a pupil of Ackworth School he may be connected to one or more of the six Thurlow's who appear in the register - Samuel from Diss (pupil 1784-87), James from Tivitshall (1787-90), Thomas from Westminster (1809-11), Ann from London (1814-16), James from High Wycombe (1836-40) or Sarah also from High Wycombe (1838-41). Often the connection with Ackworth comes via a connection by marriage - could John's wife have been a scholar (school founded 1779) - if you think this possible, her maiden name may appear in the register. Let me know. Best Wishes - Michael Hargreave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Page" <patssi@telus.net> To: <QUAKER-BRITISH-ISLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 01 March 2006 04:58 Subject: Re: [Q-B-I] Roll call & Ackworth > My ancestor, John Thurlow, left one hundred pounds to Acworth School in > 1839. I would like to know what his connection would have been because > he was probably born in Diss, lived in London, and died in Pulham Saint > Mary Magdalen, Norfolk > > regards > Pat Page > BC Canada > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >
I'd be interested in this as well, as many of my female ancestors were not Quakers and some of them after having lived long, apparently Quaker lives, are listed in the digests as "buried (in the Quaker cemetery) by permission, not being Quaker-as were some of thier children. -- Norton Antivirus protected ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Christou" <suechristou@tiscali.co.uk> To: <QUAKER-BRITISH-ISLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:47 AM Subject: [Q-B-I] Roll Call > > > > > My Quaker ancestors are very few compared with the rest of you but here > goes:- > > Sarah Gill, born 1800 is my earliest known Quaker ancestor - she was my gt > gt gt grandmother, born in Crawshawbooth, Lancs. She became a Member by > Convincement in 1867 (Marsden Monthly Meeting) unlike her brother John > Gill > who was refused. Interestingly her mother - Mary Gill, nee Smith like > Sarah, is buried in the Quaker Burial Ground at Crawshawbooth, and father, > Thomas Gill is buried in a local CofE Church, but I haven't been able to > ascertain any link for Mary as to whether she was a Quaker unlike Sarah > where I have the evidence. > > My gt gt grandmother - Hannah Gill, born about 1823 was a known supporter > of > the Quaker Movement in Crawshawbooth though not a Quaker herself. Hannah > was illegitimate being born in Preston and I wonder whether Sarah was > forced > to flee to Preston to have Hannah and then returned again to > Crawshawbooth. > Hannah's father was Edmund Pilling, a Weaver and that's all I know about > him. I haven't been able to find any details of Hannah's baptism as yet. > > There are also several Gills buried in the Quaker Burial Ground - all part > of my Gill family but not, I think, Quakers, so not sure whether I should > mention them here. As they were buried in the Quaker Burial Ground does > this > mean that they would have attended the Meeting but not necessarily Quakers > and would this fact alone enable them to be buried in Quaker Ground ?? > Perhaps someone could answer this for me or proffer an opinion. > > Regards, > > Sue > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >
I'll reply under each listing.... -- Norton Antivirus protected ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael HARGREAVE" <4667@hhmnr.fsnet.co.uk> To: <QUAKER-BRITISH-ISLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [Q-B-I] a long list of surnames A-H >I have noted some observations against some of your list - see below > > I hope these are helpful > > Best Wishes - Michael Hargreave > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edwin and Cornelia Moore" <fenenga@connpoint.net> > To: <QUAKER-BRITISH-ISLES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 28 February 2006 06:05 > Subject: [Q-B-I] a long list of surnames A-H > > >> BRIGHT of Rochdale, Lancs and Putney and Kensington, London > > ??? IS THIS THE FAMILY OF JOHN BRIGHT< MP AND ACKWORTH OLD SCHOLAR - IF > SO, I HAVE A LITTLE DETAIL OF 4 GENERATIONS OF HIS FAMILY AND HIS ACKWORTH > CONNECTIONS - are you refering to John Leatham Bright who was the son of Wm Leatham Bright and Isabella McIvor Tylor? if so, I am interested. I am a 5c3r of Isabella and do not have her children's descendancy. > >> CARTWRIGHT of Lilling, Yorks > > FIVE CARTWRIGHT SISTERS WERE AT ACKWORTH SCHOOL - ELIZABETH (pupil 6360 at > Ackworth 1841-42), SARAH A. (6570 - 1843-46), RACHEL (6739 - 1845-48), > MARY (7111 - 1849-52), HANNAH MARIA (7444 - 1853-56) Hannah Maria is the one who m. into my tree. > >> HARLOCK of Rounds, Northampton > > SHOULD BE RAUNDS (I THINK) - I HAVE FAIRLY LARGE TREE OF HARLOCK'S DATING > FROM SAMUEL (1666-1699) WITH DETAILS OF THEIR CONNECTIONS TO SEVERAL OTHER > QUAKER FAMILIES AND THEIR LINKS WITH ACKWORTH SCHOOL. Thomas Harlock 1813-1867 m. Mary Ann Cross 1810-1965. I do not know if they had children/descendants. fascinated by Sarah Nainby-elusive rare name. this may be of interest... from my notes.... 1861 Northamptonshire > Finedon > District 1 Thomas Mary A with an assistant, Sarah Nainby 2 doors down is Martha Harlock, 10 years younger than Thomas and possibly his sister. > >> HOOPER-place not yet known m. Lois WATERFALL of Darrington, Yorks > > I HAVE AN UP TO DATE ADDRESS FOR LOIS _ ALSO AN OLD SCHOLAR OF ACKWORTH > (1945-50) again, thank you for sending it. I will get in touch with her. many thanks for all the morsals of information, Michael. it's a joy to be adding new information to the tree. I had made a list, from J-...something, I forget, now, but my email box locked up just as I was about to send it and I lost the whole thing, have to do it all over again. sigh. > >> regards, >> Cornelia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >
hi, Michael, the connection is pretty exciting for me right now as I have struggled for years to place Peter, and now think I've had his father as two seperate individuals in my tree. Edmond Cross who m. Ann Parkinson Peter Cross who m. Elizabeth Burnham Joseph Cross who m. 1st Mary Mayhew, 2nd, Elizabeth Richards Edmond is Joseph's son, and Peter is a cousin of theirs, Peter is 95% likely to be the grandson of Joseph's grandfather, so a first cousin of Joseph's. I have found that he and another Peter Cross were both born in 1710. one of them disappeared, so it seems, while the other and his family turns up in Colchester, and in the wills of Joseph's family as cousins, nieces and nephews. I descend from Joseph Cross and Elizabeth Richards through thier son, Joseph Jr. who left the faith to marry Hannah Smith, and then removed with his family to the U.S.A. in abt 1842. I have the family tree online at Rootsweb's WorldConnect for you to look at if you wish. I've got a technical hitch in this computer and haven't had (read: made) time to transfer my data to a new computer so my files at Rootsweb's WorldConnect are not as complete as my files on this computer. but there's alot of data there, including Peter not linked yet to my tree and Joseph's ancestry back to 1624-which I now believe goes back to abt 1595 but cannot prove it. you will find my direct ancestry is almost completely without female lines. that's not a choice. the women in my ancestry are, to put it mildly, difficult to find. most are non-conformists (but not Quaker) who married men of Quaker birthright. I didn't have all the dates of schooling for everyone, so thank you for them. the three Waterfall boys I found at Ackworth in the 1881 census. I did know the circumstances for Eliza but can't bring them to mind-it was a standard disease, typhoid, small pox, something of that sort. I'll check further because I had a little blurb about it. her sister had something like a nervous breakdown from it because they were so close. I think it was mentioned either in the Biographical Dictionary of Friends, or in Stanley Fitch's Colchester Quakers-but I wouldn't swear on either of those. it could have come from the Waterfalls, themselves. it's not in my electrinic notes. I could have it in my files, but that will take some time to search. I've abt 19 years worth of research papers, relatively well filed but.... thank you for Lois' address, I can't recall if it was she or one of the Pennington's that I was in contact with. it's been quite a while, a decade or so. my fault, life got in the way. -- Norton Antivirus protected ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael HARGREAVE" <4667@hhmnr.fsnet.co.uk> To: <QUAKER-BRITISH-ISLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:27 AM Subject: Re: [Q-B-I] Roll call > Hi Cornelia > > I am interested in your notes and wonder if you could clarify how Edmond, > Joseph and Peter Cross are connected. Do you know where the origin of > their Quaker & Ackworth connection lies ? > > I have added a few notes alongside yours below - in case any of the > information I have is new to you. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edwin and Cornelia Moore" <fenenga@connpoint.net> > To: <QUAKER-BRITISH-ISLES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 01 March 2006 00:11 > Subject: Re: [Q-B-I] Roll call > > >> hi, Michael, >> I have several individuals who went to Ackworth, maybe more than I >> already >> know about. >> >> 1810 >> Eliza Cross b/ 20 May 1800 Colchester dau of Edmond Cross & Ann Parkinson > ELIZA (PUPIL 3172) died at Ackworth - do you know the circumstances ? > >> 1798-1802 >> Hezekiah Richards Cross b. 1 Nov 1788 Colchester son of Joseph Cross and >> Elizabeeth Richards > HEZEKIAH (pupil 2038) > >> 1781-1784 >> Jane Cross b. 7 Sep 1770 Colchester dau of Peter Cross and Elizabeth >> Burnham > JANE (pupil 330) >> 1811-1815 >> Jeremiah Cross b. 27 Aug 1801 Halstead son of Edmond Cross & Ann >> Parkinson > >> 1812-1816 >> Lucy Cross b. 15 Aug 1802 dau of Edmond Cross & Ann Parkinson > LUCY (pupil 3400) > >> 1780-1781 >> Margaret Cross b. 25 Apr 1767 dau of Peter Cross and Elizabeth Burnham > MARGARET (pupil 113) > >> 1881 >> Arthur Wilson Waterfall b. 24 Apr 1868 Airton AT ACKWORTH 1877- ? son of >> Arthur Waterfall AT ACKWORTH 1845-48 and >> Hannah Maria Cartwright AT ACKWORTH 1853-56 >> 1881 >> George Henry Waterfall b. 7 Jul 1866 Yorks AT ACKWORTH 1877- ? son of >> Arthur Waterfall and >> Hannah Cartwright >> 1881 >> William Coates Waterfall b. 17 Sep 1870 Airton AT ACKWORTH 1879-1885 son >> of Arthur Waterfall and >> Hannah Cartwright > >> regards, >> Cornelia > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >
I have only just begun to research the Quaker origins of my CLARKE family. 1. Edward CLARKE (born ??) married 1720 at St. Benet Pauls Wharf London to Ann OXDEN b. St. Paul's Shadwell. Their children Ann, Elizabeth, Esther, Frances, Edward all born between 1722-1744. (There may well be other children as yet not found.) Esther and Frances married brothers, John Beardwell BARNARD and William BARNARD of the BARNARD shipping family of Ipswich, Suffolk. The BARNARD family were heavily involved in Tacket St. Independent Church, Ipswich. Other names associated with this family are NOTCUTT, DANNETT, CONDER. Some of the CLARKES and BARNARDS move to London, Southwark and Deptford areas. 2. Edward CLARKE 1744-1791 married Ann COFFIN 1747-1787 and operated a brewery in Maid Lane, Southwark. Ann was the daughter of William COFFIN a hop merchant of Southwark and Mary CHAPPELL. Their children Elizabeth (m.POWELL), Edward (m. Sarah LINNELL) and Ann were born in Southwark. In "The Beth Book", a semi autobiographical book written by the Victorian novelist Sarah Grand (actually Frances Bellenden CLARKE), it is stated that the CLARKE family were Quakers of East Anglian origin. The fact that Edward CLARKE (1) made affirmation rather than take oath (wills) seems to add weight to this fact. I have not found the birth place of Edward (1) but as 2 of his daughters married BARNARDS from Ipswich it seems possible he was from there too. I would be very grateful for any assistance on how to find information on my CLARKE family Quaker history. Marilyn Sydney, Australia
Michael Thank you for that information. Unfortunately I am still unable to discover his wife (Mary)'s maiden name. I am pretty sure that these names are in my family. I think Samuel was John's older brother, and Thomas was his son, and High Wycombe also fits other family members. I shall check them all out now. That's great Pat Page BC Canada
Liane , We share a # of Quaker ancestors. Will contact you tomorrow. MAry HAines Eavenson- Newton, MA.
My ancestor, John Thurlow, left one hundred pounds to Acworth School in 1839. I would like to know what his connection would have been because he was probably born in Diss, lived in London, and died in Pulham Saint Mary Magdalen, Norfolk regards Pat Page BC Canada
At 01:57 PM 28/02/06, Michael HARGREAVE wrote: >However the main strand of my researches has been directed towards a study >of Quaker families who have been linked through a common experience of >education at Quaker Schools. I have a large database of information gathered >from secondary sources about families connected with Ackworth School >(Pontefract, Yorks) - I would be happy to try and help anyone with queries >in this direction and would be particularly pleased to hear of families with >Ackworth School connections. I have a large database of information about families connected with Sidcot School, Somerset. I'm happy to try to help with queries. Howard Knight
Here is my Roll Call information: SUMMARY: Names: Whalley (Whaley), Laycock, Pratt, Wilson MM: Hardwest (Liverpool), Knaresborough (Yorks), Raisin (US), Adrian (US) Dates: 1679 to 1843 KNOWN: Maria Ann WHALLEY (my gr-gr-grandmother) was born around 1810 in Yorkshire. Amelia WHALLEY, Maria's sister, was born Feb 11, 1815 in Ireland. Maria, Amelia and Maria's husband James JOHNSON came to the US from Liverpool on the ship Hibernia, arriving April 15, 1835 and moved to Michigan. Amelia married James SMITH on Nov 8, 1836 in Tecumseh Twp, Lenawee Co, Michigan. On 1843, 5, 11, Certificate received for Amelia from HARDWEST MM, Liverpool, endorsed to RAISIN [Michigan] MM (which had split off from ADRIAN MM). Maria and Amelia's parents were Jeremiah WHALLEY and Hannah ??. PROBABLE: It is likely that Maria and Amelia's parents were Jeremiah WHALLEY (b. 1789) and Hannah LAYCOCK (b. 1784) of the KNARESBOROUGH MM (Yorks). If so, Jeremiah's parents were Jeremiah Whalley (b. 1748) and Tabitha PRATT, and this Jeremiah Whalley's parents were John Whalley (1708-1789) and Ann WILSON (1710-1775); John Whalley's parents were Jeremy (Jeremiah) Whalley (1679-1754) and Katharine ? (1680-1725). Most of this is from the KNARESBOROUGH MM. Jessica Utts jmutts@ucdavis.edu
hi, Michael, I have several individuals who went to Ackworth, maybe more than I already know about. 1810 Eliza Cross b/ 20 May 1800 Colchester dau of Edmond Cross & Ann Parkinson 1798-1802 Hezekiah Richards Cross b. 1 Nov 1788 Colchester son of Joseph Cross and Elizabeeth Richards 1781-1784 Jane Cross b. 7 Sep 1770 Colchester dau of Peter Cross and Elizabeth Burnham 1811-1815 Jeremiah Cross b. 27 Aug 1801 Halstead son of Edmond Cross & Ann Parkinson 1812-1816 Lucy Cross b. 15 Aug 1802 dau of Edmond Cross & Ann Parkinson 1780-1781 Margaret Cross b. 25 Apr 1767 dau of Peter Cross and Elizabeth Burnham 1881 Arthur Wilson Waterfall b. 24 Apr 1868 Airton son of Arthur Waterfall and Hannah Cartwright 1881 George Henry Waterfall b. 7 Jul 1866 Yorks son of Arthur Waterfall and Hannah Cartwright 1881 William Coates Waterfall b. 17 Sep 1870 Airton son of Arthur Waterfall and Hannah Cartwright regards, Cornelia
Hi, All :-) My Quakerly ancestors were the Bradshaws of Northampton late 17th/early 18th century. I am leisurely transcribing the Quaker records of Northamptonshire. So if I can help anyone.... Sandra Allanson. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benjamin S. Beck" <benjaminbeck@ukonline.co.uk> To: <QUAKER-BRITISH-ISLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:42 PM Subject: [Q-B-I] Roll call > Dear all > > There are now 66 subscribers to this list, and it may be as good a time as > any for our first roll call. > > Could everyone send to Q-B-I a list of all the surnames they are > researching (and of those on which they have significant information even > though they may not currently be researching those lines), showing the > following information for each: > > Surname > Date from > Date to > Monthly Meeting (if known) > Place > County Code > > Feel free to send in as many names as you like, though if you have lots it > may be best to spread them out over more than one email. > > Overseas subscribers please note: Please only include Quaker families with > origins in the British Isles. > > Thanks! > > Ben > > > -- > Benjamin S. Beck (Ben) > List administrator > > Email: QUAKER-BRITISH-ISLES-admin@rootsweb.com > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >
Dear All As one of the 66 subscribers, I am keen to help and be helped by as many as I can. I am descended from several lines of Quakers - including Thistlethwaite of Dent, Binns of Keighley, Harris and Lamb of Sibford (Oxon) - all from 17th century Quaker communities and also from the Atkin's of Woodhouse, Sheffield. However the main strand of my researches has been directed towards a study of Quaker families who have been linked through a common experience of education at Quaker Schools. I have a large database of information gathered from secondary sources about families connected with Ackworth School (Pontefract, Yorks) - I would be happy to try and help anyone with queries in this direction and would be particularly pleased to hear of families with Ackworth School connections. For those who are interested in the Quaker Family History Society conference at Woodbrooke (March 18th) - I am the conference organiser and can report, to date, that bookings are already about 30 - please get in touch if you want to know more about it. Best Wishes - Michael Hargreave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benjamin S. Beck" <benjaminbeck@ukonline.co.uk> To: <QUAKER-BRITISH-ISLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 26 February 2006 16:42 Subject: [Q-B-I] Roll call > Dear all > > There are now 66 subscribers to this list, and it may be as good a time > as any for our first roll call. > > Could everyone send to Q-B-I a list of all the surnames they are > researching (and of those on which they have significant information > even though they may not currently be researching those lines), showing > the following information for each: > > Surname > Date from > Date to > Monthly Meeting (if known) > Place > County Code > > Feel free to send in as many names as you like, though if you have lots > it may be best to spread them out over more than one email. > > Overseas subscribers please note: Please only include Quaker families > with origins in the British Isles. > > Thanks! > > Ben > > > -- > Benjamin S. Beck (Ben) > List administrator > > Email: QUAKER-BRITISH-ISLES-admin@rootsweb.com > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >
Dear List Below are the first of a large number of Quaker families that I am researching. Surname Richards Date from 1733 or earlier Date to 1900 Monthly Meeting (if known) ?Redruth/Marazion Place Redruth, Cornwall. Marazion, Cornwall UK I am looking for records of marriage of the parents of Richard Richards b 1792 Redruth. His marriage record gives them as David and Rebecca Richards of Marazion www.family search IGI list shows a possible family which matches with a marriage date of 23/12/1778 No source given. David Richards b 16/12/1733 ?Redruth parents possibly John Richards and Eleanor Tresadern death confirmed from Quaker records 18/8/1811 aged 78 gardener Marazion Rebecca ?Higman b 1752 ?Redruth, parents John Higman and Austel? No source given death confirmed from Quaker records 15/9/1805 aged 53 wife of David Surname Edmonds Date from 1750 Date to 1850 Monthly Meeting (if known) ? Falmouth ?Redruth Place Falmouth, Cornwall, UK I am looking for records of the parents of Mary Edmonds shown as Henry and Sarah Edmonds of Falmouth when she married Richard Richards in 1821. They may have lived in Redruth The IGI provides Henry Edmonds married Redruth 16/4/1793 to Sarah Dennis as parents of Mary Edmonds christened 13/2/1794 so they may not have been Quakers if this is them. Richard and Mary Richards named their daughters Rebecca, Mary Nastel, Sarah, Eleanor and Catherine so wondered if in fact the Wife of John Higman might in fact have been Nastel not Austel.(This is pure speculation at the moment) They have used both g-grandmothers and grandmothers names Any help in finding records of these people would be much appreciated Brylin Highton Dunedin NZ
I descend from the relatively large Quaker CROSS family of Woodbridge and Walton, Suffolk and of Colchester, Essex, however, they covered more names and areas than I've just listed. as mentioned in earlier posts, the Cross's entered the Quaker faith in 1655, and remained in it until at least the early 1800's. I can find some of them right up to 1837 at Colchester Meeting. I have no access to later digests or records, so the later individuals are often unknown as to which faith the followed. I have Quakers, Independants, Wesleyan Methodists and CofE's in my tree. and the non-practicer's who appear out of no-where in one or another church, presumably after being slapped with a heavy fine for not attending church. I had started to post all the members of the tree back when QBI was new to me (50 members back then, no idea how many now) and it had just been mentioned in the Rootsweb's Review, but got too busy to complete it. still very busy, but in need of a well earned break, so will try to get my name list out-in about 3 postings. it's rather long. one problem. some of these people may not be Quaker. I'm trying very hard to weed them out of this post. I do know they married into my Cross family in England, or were born into the tree with a Quaker birthright, or joined the Quaker faith early on, depending on whom we are discussing.... one instance is that some of the later lines of the Harris family left the faith, as did some of the later lines of Cross's. so it's a bit difficult to sort the members from the non-members. if I accidently put some non-Quakers in the list, it is from a lack of knowledge of when a specific individual left the faith. I do not have the digests or records at hand. there may be errors in spelling of places and occasional errors in spellings of names. corrections are appreciated. ALEXANDER-place not yet known m. Algernon PECKOVER of ? ALSTON-Bocking & Colchester, Essex ARNOLD-Stapleford, Herts & and Tallenhall & Waverton, Cheshire ARTHINGTON-place not yet known m. Mary Ann HARRIS of London BARBER-place not yet known m. Cecil HARRIS of Hants BARR_TT of Purleigh, Essex and of Colchester, Essex two different but intermarried lines which may be related closely to one another. BASSETT of Leighton Buzzard, Beds BERKLEY of Marleyhill, Lumley and Medomsley, Durham BERRY-place not yet known m. Victoria MAYO of Colchester BIRKBECK of Bradford, Yorks BLAND-place not yet known m. Elizabeth CROSS of Colchester BOWLEY-place not yet known m. Katherine PECKOVER of ? BREWSTER-place not yet known m. ALEXANDER, KING & PECKOVER's BRIGHT of Rochdale, Lancs and Putney and Kensington, London BULL of India (British subject) m. Frederick BASSETT of Leighton Buzzard BURD of Inwardleigh and Okehampton BURNHAM of Colchester, Essex BUSFIELD of Bingly BUTCHER-place not yet known m. in Colchester to Elizabeth CROSS of Colchester BYAS-place not yet known m. Samuel SHEPPARD of Wartham Upton, Essex CALLENDER-place not yet known m. George HARRIS of Bingley, Yorks CAMPS of Norfolk CAREY of Showlands, Kent CARTWRIGHT of Lilling, Yorks CATER of Harwich, Braintree and Colchester, Essex CATHCART-place not yet known m. Wm BUSFIELD of ? CAVANAGH of Hythe, Kent CHAMPNEY of Wendover, Bucks and of London CHANCE-place not yet known m. Annie HARRIS of Bingley, Yorks CHARLTON-place not yet known m. Maurice WATERFALL of Halifax, Yorks CHURCH-place not yet known m. Aubrey CROSS of Sudbury and London CLARK-place not yet known m. Sarah CROSS of Colchester CLUFF-place not yet known m. Wm HARRIS of Stoke Newington COCHRANE-place not yet known m. Cecil HARRIS of Burton Latimer COOPER-place not yet known m. a Colchester CROSS granddaughter CORK of Seasonscott, Gloucester CROSS(E) of Woodbridge, Walton, Ipswich and Kelshall, Suffolk, Colchester, Chelmsford and Halstead, Essex, Moorfields, London, and Stepney, London, Southwork, Surrey, Sudbury, Exeter, Southernhay and Topsham, Devon, Weymouth, Dorset, Banbury, Oxon, Leeds, Yorks, Finedon, Northampton, Medway, Kent, Steyning and Hove, Sussex, Brentford and Wapping, Middlesex. possibly of Framlingham, Suffolk before Quakerism (before it was created). DEARMAN of Surrey DEWHURST of Farnhill and Steeton, Yorks DOCWRA of Kelvedon, Essex DOYLE of Co. Cork, Ireland DRAKE of West Ham DRAYSON-place not yet known m. Theodore BASSETT of Leighton Buzzard DURANT of Tunbridge, Kent DWYER of St. Johns Wells, Kilbery, Ireland ELSON-place not yet known m. Frances WATERFALL of Skipton, Yorks ENGLAND-place not yet known m. Wm HARRIS of Hackney EVERETT of Colchester, Essex FLETCHER of Greysoutham, Cumberland FORD-place not yet known m. Muriel HARRIS of Croydon FORREST of Gloucester and Exeter and Okehampton, Devon FOX of Falmouth, Cornwall FREEMAN of Woodbridge and Walton, Suffolk-maybe of Colchester, Essex, also. a possible related to the other Freemans but seperate Freeman of Harefield, Middlesex, and another of Birmingham, so three different lines of Freeman's-all connected to my Cross family tree in different places and time periods. FRY of Redborough, Gloucester GARRATT of Roydon, Essex and of Hatfield, Herts-two seperate individuals. GATES of Bermondsey, Surrey GOSSAGE of Melbourn, Australia-m. in Hendon, Middlesex to Rbt HARRIS GRAHAM-place not yet known m. Isabel HARRIS of Norwood GREENWOOD-place not yet known m. Joseph PECKOVER of ? GRIDGE-place not yet known m. Lucy PECKOVER of ? GRIFFITHS-place not yet known m. in Colchester to Edmund CROSS HALIFAX-place not yet known m. Guy BUSFIELD of ? HANBURY-place not yet known m. Emily BUSFIELD of ? HARLOCK of Rounds, Northampton HARRIS of Stoke Newington, Chelsea and Finsbury, Middlesex, Holsworthy,and Hallwill, Devon, Leighton Buzzard, Bedford, Norwood, Upper Norwood, Walworth, Southwark, Croydon, Kingston, Lambeth, Surbiton and Wimbledon, Surrey, Bradford, Fulford, Oxton Hall and Bingley, Yorks, St. Clements Eastcheap, Middlesex, Walford, Herefords, West Hampshire, Fordingbridge and Froyle Place, Hampshire, Kettering, Hantsford, Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmoreland, Walthamstow, Essex, London, Hackney, Billingsgate, and Kensington, London, Wellington, Shortlands, Blackheath, Dartford, Abbywood and Bromley, Kent, Rotherwick, Hamps, Bexhill-on Sea, Leicester, Bournemouth (what county/shire is that in?), Windsor, Berks, Buckingham, Keynsham, Somerset, Carlisle, Cumberland, Christ Church, Hants, Woodbridge, Suffolk, Brighton and Eastbourne, Sussex. HAWKINS of Colchester, Essex HEAD of Neithrop and Banbury, Oxon, Frostenden, Suffolk HOLDER-place not yet known m. Katherine CROSS(E) of Woodbridge HOMFRAY of Calcutta, India (British Subject) HOOP(E)-place not yet known m. Sarah LARKESof Ireland (?) residence when fa d. may be of London. HOOPER-place not yet known m. Lois WATERFALL of Darrington, Yorks HUDD-place not yet known m. Sally CROSS of Colchester? London? Surrey? her parents lived in all three places. it's not that I have more on the Harris's, though maybe I have a bit more, but the Cross's stayed put a bit more than the Harris's. but also the Harris's bred more viably than the Cross's. more of the Harris's survived and more of them married compared to the Cross's. I don't have a clue why, though better food and hygene for the early survivors makes sense. the Harris's were upper class and the Cross's were middle class, so that could explain the difference to some effect. as you can see, my tree is large-but by no means complete. a lot of it wanders overseas (from a British point of view), but I've left those out as requested, as well as any known non-Quaker lines. the ones listed above born in Ireland and in India married in England (with one or two exceptions in India) into my tree but I have to admit that I don't know if they were Quaker. there are many who weren't Quaker when they married to someone with a Quaker birthright, but either became Quaker or became accepted within the meeting at a later time. so the line is drawn very fine for me in some areas. difficult to decide whether they belong in the list, better to include them than leave them out, I think. please contact me if you think there may be a connection. I'm happy to share. regards, Cornelia